Monday Night RAW Discussion

[cougarjake13]

would anyone like a live stream of the RR



indeed

[newport king]

Cmon Baby!!! Y2J

[cougarjake13]

guess y2j is back

[Kevin]

When did RR become not the main event?

ITS THE ROYAL FUCKING RUMBLE THE NAME OF THE EVENT.

And why is Otunga even still there?

Jennifer Hudson blowing Vince?

[Kevin]

The HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRAAAAAAAAAAIN

[Kevin]

What has Ziggler done to piss the WWE off?

I love Y2J but did they need to make him 2 so he can be in as long as he is?

[Kevin]

Idk why but I love the Kane DB shit.

[newport king]

BO DALLAS ...i hate that you can eliminate people after youve been eliminated. Makes no sense

[newport king]

God fucking damnit. I hate you vince

[Kevin]

Ick.

Wwe Stinks

[newport king]

Enjoy rock/cena 2 kids

[newport king]

The crowd couldnt be booing any louder

[newport king]

I dont know why im so annoyed. We all knew this was coming

[Kevin]

Eat

A

Small

Steroid

Dick

Vince

[Kevin]

This will be HBK type moment where he starts the Rumble and last for like 70 minutes.

doubt it. Cena will win so he can challenge the rock

I didnt say Ziggler will win. He wont. But he will last a really long time and will use that in future promos. Only 4 guys have lasted over an hour in the Rumble, and 2 of those won. I have a feeling Ziggler will be #5 and lose.


And there is you WWE predictability...

[newport king]

Fuuuuuuuuck

[newport king]

If cena was gonna win, the rumble shouldve went last. More predictability. So punk/taker at wm?

[Kevin]

If cena was gonna win, the rumble shouldve went last. More predictability. So punk/taker at wm?

Come on...

HHH Taker again.

[RingWraith]

I would prefer Rock vs. Lesner and a Cena vs Undertaker at Wrestlemania. But alas, I know thats not gonna happen.

[Kevin]

Of Course The Champ always come out first.

I can't believe there is no real comp to these jackasses.

[newport king]

Here comes the champ with the jobber entrance. Fuckin vince

[cougarjake13]

Enjoy rock/cena 2 kids



I believe it'll happen but not tonight

punk retains but loses next ppv at elimination chamber

[Kevin]

I believe it'll happen but not tonight

punk retains but loses next ppv at elimination chamber

Please, You are giving the WWE way too much credit.

[RingWraith]

Of Course The Champ always come out first.

I can't believe there is no real comp to these jackasses.

I always been annoyed by that. For so many years, the heel champion comes out first, so that the more popular babyface main eventer comes out last. I honestly can't remember the last time a heel champion came out first in the main event.

[newport king]

Cena winning really took all the air out of this match

[RingWraith]

Cena winning really took all the air out of this match

Agreed.

[Kevin]

Of course Punk is carrying this entire match until the end.

[newport king]

Lol. Stupid announce table

[Kevin]

Gotta Love JBL

SHUT UP STOOGE!

[walking joint]

still 3 minutes to ruin this ending

[walking joint]

and here it is

[RingWraith]

Gotta Love JBL

SHUT UP STOOGE!

He's a great heel commentator.

[Kevin]

You guessed it!

WJ!

GODDAMMIT!

This was the perfect time for a Ziggler face turn to cash in!

I hate Vince.

[walking joint]

ugh, even worse. lost to a peoples elbow

[cougarjake13]

You guessed it!

WJ!

GODDAMMIT!

This was the perfect time for a Ziggler face turn to cash in!

I hate Vince.



ziggler culdnt
he had the sd mitb case for the world title only
cena had the wwe title case

[Kevin]

ziggler culdnt
he had the sd mitb case for the world title only
cena had the wwe title case

Oh yea thats right.

Still would have been perfect.

And People Elbow?

REALLY?

[Kevin]

I can't imagine how pissed I would be if I paid for this garbage.

[newport king]

Fuck that was fuckin lame

[cougarjake13]

Oh yea thats right.

Still would have been perfect.

And People Elbow?

REALLY?



I agree woulda been a great time

his move set is just as lame as cenas but the universe eats that shit up

[epo]

Twice in a lifetime.

[TripleSkeet]

Dissapointing how predictable the WWE is anymore. Pretty much saw everything coming except Y2J showing up. I dont know when Vince will wake up. Maybe when Cena has 60,000 rabid east coast fans booing and chanting crazy obscene shit at Cena during Wrestlemania he will finally wake up. But even if that was the plan, they couldve planned this PPV out much better.

Whoever said Cena winning sucked the life out of the crowd was exactly right. Im sure botching the finish they stole of from the Cena / Batista Rumble didnt help either.

Rock and Punk shouldve been before the Rumble. Even if they planned it out exactly the same. Have Rock win, stand there, posture, whatever. Then have the Rumble match, have Cena win, and while hes posing and thumping his chest have The Rock run in, Plant him with a rock bottom, point to the Wrestlemania sign, and fade to black. Same results but a ten times better show.

[styckx]

I read the results and lol'ed when I saw "Winner: John Cena" for the rumble..

Has there ever been a wrestler so overly forced down the audiences throat in a "please like him still" style as vince has John Cena? Fans started rejecting him 5 years ago.. Here we are and Vince is still booking this faggot to win the marquee match of a major PPV.

[conman823]

All predictability aside this Rumble was heads and tails above the last 2 Rumbles.

So far everyone will have to follow that Rock/Punk match at WM. I think Punk looked good even in defeat and his smug arrogance after the shield attack even had my pissed off. Let's see now what type fof Champ The Rock makes heading into WM. Don't forget Punk gets a rematch and the Chamber is happening before WM. Still time to shuffle the deck.

[newport king]

We all knew this was going to happen. I really wanted to turn it off after ziggler got eliminated. I mean why even fuckin bother? And you had him cut a promo in the ring before it started. For what? A final 4 of no heat orton, stupid fuckin sheamus, ryberg and super cena? It was every guy vince has jerked off to in the last 10yrs

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I would have much rather seen rock win the rumble as a surprise entrant cena beat punk cleanly and have them do it that way.

[TripleSkeet]

We all knew this was going to happen. I really wanted to turn it off after ziggler got eliminated. I mean why even fuckin bother? And you had him cut a promo in the ring before it started. For what? A final 4 of no heat orton, stupid fuckin sheamus, ryberg and super cena? It was every guy vince has jerked off to in the last 10yrs

Ziggler was in the final 4, not Orton.

[TripleSkeet]

Im about as big a mark for The Rock as you can find, and after reading this, even Im saying "Please God no."

- There are rumors that The Rock will debut a new WWE Title belt on tonight's RAW from Las Vegas. A regular reader who wished to remain anonymous passed along the following photo which is rumored to be the new belt. Again, this is rumored and not confirmed:

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3724/wrestlesharecom.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/wrestlesharecom.jpg/)

[newport king]

Yeah i just read that. The design of these belts get worse every time. The last good one was hogan era eagle belt

[newport king]

The hogan 85 and the andre 87 versions were really nice

[conman823]

. I really wanted to turn it off after ziggler got eliminated. I mean why even fuckin bother?

I was extremely disappointed in Ziggler last night. Aside from the start of the Rumble all he did was dangle on the bottom rope in the corner all night and take stupid bumps into the ropes. He looked like an idiot out there and IMO blew his whole chance to make a great show of himself. By the time he got thrown out I had forgot he was still in it. He didn't break any records he didn't have any memorable moments. I expected better.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

randy orton may throw the worst clothesline in wrestling history.

[cougarjake13]

The hogan 85 and the andre 87 versions were really nice



didn't hogan have it from 84-88 ?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

so much for wade getting that push.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

didn't hogan have it from 84-88 ?

I think this was introduced after 88


http://hulkhoganhistory.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/9/3/12931248/304277.jpg


I remember this one for most of his 1st reign


http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/1370/1986wwfchampionshipwz9.jpg


Both are much better than the current strap.

[Kevin]

I think this was introduced after 88


http://hulkhoganhistory.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/9/3/12931248/304277.jpg


I remember this one for most of his 1st reign


http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/1370/1986wwfchampionshipwz9.jpg


Both are much better than the current strap.

The top one and the old tag belts were by far the best. I had both as a kid

[styckx]

55 minutes...

55 minutes is as long as I lasted trying to watch RAW again..

Want to take a guess what made my `fuck you Vince' channel change happen?

http://i.imgur.com/olQrzmF.jpg

[NickyL0885]

55 minutes...

55 minutes is as long as I lasted trying to watch RAW again..

Want to take a guess what made my `fuck you Vince' channel change happen?

http://i.imgur.com/olQrzmF.jpg

You Can't Yabba Dabba See Me!

[Kevin]

WWE has the market cornered.

There isn't any wrestling comp to them and there isn't shit to watch mondays.

Even MNF is a joke now with NBC Sunday night getting the games they used to get.

WWE has no incentive to get better. The kids and idiots go to events, buy their merch.

The Attitude era would have never happened if it wasn't for The NWO and their dominance.

[Kevin]

Albert should just walk off and quit..

[NickyL0885]

Albert is officially on the bottom of the ladder.

[newport king]

I disagree. Good for him. Hes never getting over as a monster. People are bored with his unfortunate gimmick. Turn face. Team with clay and show some personality.

[cougarjake13]

if I was him I'd seriously be like I came back for this shit ?

[newport king]

didn't hogan have it from 84-88 ?


Im on my cell and cant post pics. But if u google it youll see them. The andre 87 wound up being used as the title in no holds barred

[MIKEYDAKEN]

if I was him I'd seriously be like I came back for this shit ?

i don't blame the guy he said on his twitter that his was pregnant when they offered him the job again, so props for him for eating shit for his family.

[Kevin]

I'm so fucking bored with Big Show.

The sad part is he is one of the funniest people out there.

He is a fail as a monster always has been.

[cougarjake13]

I'm so fucking bored with Big Show.

The sad part is he is one of the funniest people out there.

He is a fail as a monster always has been.

hasn't everyone not named Andre ?

[newport king]

I feel like the transfered the mark henry gimmick to big show after he got hurt. He doesnt come close to pulling it off.

[newport king]

Tamina is crazy fuckin ugly...kaitlyn is attractive but has something odd going on with her mouth

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Tamina is crazy fuckin ugly...kaitlyn is attractive but has something odd going on with her mouth

rosa mendes is my favorite

[newport king]

I like that kaitlyn doesnt seem to have wrestling gear and wrestles in street clothes. Yet it always looks like we're seconds away from a wardrobe malfunction....i miss when that used to happen

[styckx]

Wait wait wait.

Rock can say Punk Ass Bitch

but 30 seconds later Punk says it and it's censored.

Edit: And now Rock gets censored

So much inconsistency.. This show is awful

[Kevin]

Fuck your champ fighting.

Have a performance review as the main even the night after a PPV..

[newport king]

Bankin on lesnar showing up

[styckx]

http://i.imgur.com/eWlGAUl.jpg

[MIKEYDAKEN]

god a run in by brock sets up trips-lesner at mania come on do it.

[NickyL0885]

Bankin on lesnar showing up

Nailed it!

[Kevin]

Nailed it!

Of course he did.

[styckx]

They can't even finish with a payoff of HHH.. They are seriously cliff hanging that shit?

*shake my head*... No ones turning in next week to see the "repercussions" of that..

[brettmojo]

Wait wait wait.

Rock can say Punk Ass Bitch

but 30 seconds later Punk says it and it's censored.

Edit: And now Rock gets censored

So much inconsistency.. This show is awful
They didn't censor it on Directv.

[Kevin]

They didn't censor it on Directv.

Cablevision either..

[styckx]

They didn't censor it on Directv.

I keep forgetting the stream I watch is skysports.

ie: Canadian faggotry...

[Dirtbag]

I keep forgetting the stream I watch is skysports.

ie: Canadian faggotry...

Skysports is out of the UK isn't it? That's the stream I'm stuck with since I can't get the east coast feed here.

[styckx]

Skysports is out of the UK isn't it? That's the stream I'm stuck with since I can't get the east coast feed here.

Yep you're right.. I wish Sopcast would get more popular.. The quality is awesome.

[Kevin]

Skysports is out of the UK isn't it? That's the stream I'm stuck with since I can't get the east coast feed here.

Hosers!

[NickyL0885]

Wrestlemania is prob looking like:

Rock vs Cena

Punk vs Undertaker

Brock vs HHH

I can see Rock vs Cena vs Punk, but I doubt it.

[TripleSkeet]

Yea Wrestlemania was looking like that months ago. Its pathetic how predictable the WWE has become. Im almost amazed this is the same company that pulled off Vince winning the Rumble, Foley going off the cage, Big Show ripping through the floor, etc. All major swerves and shocks that still led to the matches that were planned all along. They have zero creativity or imagination anymore. Fucking sad.

[styckx]

Yea Wrestlemania was looking like that months ago. Its pathetic how predictable the WWE has become. Im almost amazed this is the same company that pulled off Vince winning the Rumble, Foley going off the cage, Big Show ripping through the floor, etc. All major swerves and shocks that still led to the matches that were planned all along. They have zero creativity or imagination anymore. Fucking sad.

And who's turning into WM to watch Rock job to Cena? It's so obvious it's time to give Cena the belt again and since Rock went over last WM it's only obvious he's losing this one. Cena is at a level of people hating him so much and people so tired of him they can't even get the energy up to hate him properly.. Even his own fans call it in anymore.. Even if he went heel now, no one will give a shit.. Remember when Vince took chances? Heel Cena would have been money just over a year ago with his feud with Punk.. People were BEGGING Vince to make Cena heel. It was *the time*. The fans, even his fans were down with the idea. Punk was out popping, out selling, and had a metric shit ton of momentum to carry heel Cena on his shoulders and the two could have made a shit ton of cash together.

And nothing came of it.. Vince takes Cena away from Punk to not tarnish his reputation and turned Punk into some weird tweener that didn't make much sense for the longest ass time. Punk really didn't get into his heel stride until he was teamed up with Heyman.

[conman823]

Brock is my "People's Champ". I'd like to think that F5 was from all of us

[Kevin]

Brock is my "People's Champ". I'd like to think that F5 was from all of us

That's what I wanted to do to Vince after the RR

[styckx]

Somehow RAW got a 3.68 rating.... People seriously turned in just to see Rock and I assume Jericho helped a bit too.

What are they going to do when they don't have these legends to wheel in anymore for a temp ratings boost?

Jericho I don't mind because he's been in full on "put over the young guys" mode for a while now and works house shows.. At least he's spreading the wealth and helping the overall product. The Rock while he does bring in the ratings really isn't adding to the overall product at all.

I just got done watching his match.. Rock matches were never the greatest.. Usually spot fest and restholds but he looked winded after 5 minutes and wrestled like shit.

[cougarjake13]

Tamina is crazy fuckin ugly...kaitlyn is attractive but has something odd going on with her mouth



Tamina looks like that cat lady who got too much plastic surgery


kaitlynn is cute kinda looks like a mesh of Ashley the punk diva from a few years back and a Mickie James

[newport king]

Somehow RAW got a 3.68 rating.... People seriously turned in just to see Rock and I assume Jericho helped a bit too.

What are they going to do when they don't have these legends to wheel in anymore for a temp ratings boost?

Jericho I don't mind because he's been in full on "put over the young guys" mode for a while now and works house shows.. At least he's spreading the wealth and helping the overall product. The Rock while he does bring in the ratings really isn't adding to the overall product at all.

I just got done watching his match.. Rock matches were never the greatest.. Usually spot fest and restholds but he looked winded after 5 minutes and wrestled like shit.

Rock will drop the strap at WM putting Cena over. Does Cena need to be the one getting the rub here? No. Hes held the belt 10x's so its not exactly putting over "young talent". But when Andre "passed the torch" to Hogan he had been champ for 3yrs at that point.

I think we all get it, in terms of what theyre doing for the business as a whole, but god do i hate it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Somehow RAW got a 3.68 rating.... People seriously turned in just to see Rock and I assume Jericho helped a bit too.

What are they going to do when they don't have these legends to wheel in anymore for a temp ratings boost?

Jericho I don't mind because he's been in full on "put over the young guys" mode for a while now and works house shows.. At least he's spreading the wealth and helping the overall product. The Rock while he does bring in the ratings really isn't adding to the overall product at all.

I just got done watching his match.. Rock matches were never the greatest.. Usually spot fest and restholds but he looked winded after 5 minutes and wrestled like shit.

He's good on the mic and its style over substance. If Austin's knees weren't shot they would probably do the same with him

[TripleSkeet]

Rock will drop the strap at WM putting Cena over. Does Cena need to be the one getting the rub here? No. Hes held the belt 10x's so its not exactly putting over "young talent". But when Andre "passed the torch" to Hogan he had been champ for 3yrs at that point.

I think we all get it, in terms of what theyre doing for the business as a whole, but god do i hate it.

Heres the difference. At the time you could count on one hand the amount of matches Andre lost for his entire career. Cena has had the "torch passing" deal done already by being put over by guys like HHH and HBK.

The problem lies with booking the match to begin with. Its a no-win situation. The Rock wins, and we already saw it before last year. Cena wins, big fucking deal.Hes alreayd "overcame the odds" so many times nobody gives a fuck.

The ONLY way to salvage this match is to have Cena turn heel halfway through it. Preferably revealing him to be the leader of The Shield. Have them help him and have him just go complete bad guy. Hes already going to have 60,000 crazy motherfuckers booing him anyway. Ironically if that did happen the crowd would probably wind up cheering his stale ass.

[Kevin]

Heres the difference. At the time you could count on one hand the amount of matches Andre lost for his entire career. Cena has had the "torch passing" deal done already by being put over by guys like HHH and HBK.

The problem lies with booking the match to begin with. Its a no-win situation. The Rock wins, and we already saw it before last year. Cena wins, big fucking deal.Hes alreayd "overcame the odds" so many times nobody gives a fuck.

The ONLY way to salvage this match is to have Cena turn heel halfway through it. Preferably revealing him to be the leader of The Shield. Have them help him and have him just go complete bad guy. Hes already going to have 60,000 crazy motherfuckers booing him anyway. Ironically if that did happen the crowd would probably wind up cheering his stale ass.

Mr Fruity Pebbles is not turning Heel ever.

He makes too much in Merch and now the cereal box...

[NickyL0885]

Mr Fruity Pebbles is not turning Heel ever.

He makes too much in Merch and now the cereal box...

Perhaps they feel, if he goes heel, and they lose money on merch, they don't have a face that can off set the lost money by selling merch.

They want Sheamus to be that guy, but he can't seem to get over the hump. Del Rio face turn was needed. Miz's turn has been lame, he needs to stay heel. And rumor is Ziggler will go face soon, since Jericho is going to eventually become a heel.

[Dirtbag]

Hogan was never turning heel, ever, either. If Cena wants to/is able to perform in his early to mid 40s there's no fucking way this character is going to last another decade. The merch sales and popularity with the kiddies won't last forever. If he doesn't break down and is forced out there's going to have to be a big change eventually.

[cougarjake13]

eventually yeh but looks like at least another 3-5 yrs of this shit

[TripleSkeet]

Hogan was never turning heel, ever, either. If Cena wants to/is able to perform in his early to mid 40s there's no fucking way this character is going to last another decade. The merch sales and popularity with the kiddies won't last forever. If he doesn't break down and is forced out there's going to have to be a big change eventually.

Exactly. Vince doesnt have the balls to turn Cena heel, and he never had the balls to turn Hogan heel. Bishoff did it and look at the amount of merch sales that made. I still see fucking nWo shirts around. Nothing great ever came from wrestling that didnt involve taking a risk. Right now Vince just follows his safe bets rather than take a risk that in the long run would be better for the company and business overall.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Taker may sit out Wrestlemania though its not definite


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1508277-undertaker-reportedly-questionable-for-wwe-wrestlemania-29

[newport king]

Makes me wish he won the rumble and retired after winning the belt at mania.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If he's not on the card, I think PPV purchases might be down slightly

A lot of casual fans get WM because of the Taker streak.

[brettmojo]

Heres the difference. At the time you could count on one hand the amount of matches Andre lost for his entire career. Cena has had the "torch passing" deal done already by being put over by guys like HHH and HBK.

The problem lies with booking the match to begin with. Its a no-win situation. The Rock wins, and we already saw it before last year. Cena wins, big fucking deal.Hes alreayd "overcame the odds" so many times nobody gives a fuck.

The ONLY way to salvage this match is to have Cena turn heel halfway through it. Preferably revealing him to be the leader of The Shield. Have them help him and have him just go complete bad guy. Hes already going to have 60,000 crazy motherfuckers booing him anyway. Ironically if that did happen the crowd would probably wind up cheering his stale ass.

Please email this to every WWE official email you can find between now and Wrestlemania.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Did Savage leave the WWF on bad terms for WCW? He should be in the HOF already

[brettmojo]

Did Savage leave the WWF on bad terms for WCW? He should be in the HOF already

He put it in Stephanie's pooper.

[NickyL0885]

Did Savage leave the WWF on bad terms for WCW? He should be in the HOF already

His wishes were that he and his family go in together. And we know they didn't have the impact he did.

[conman823]

Lanny Poffo says that Randy wanted to whole family in.

Personally I would think Savages wife would be in charge of his estate so of she Ok'd it Savage should be in.

Just like Owens widow won't let him in because she hates wrestling.

[TripleSkeet]

Im still convinced the Steph story is true. Ive never seen a guy that was such a huge star pretty much ignored by the WWE since he left. Even the DVD they did for him had no sit down interviews with him now. I think they just made it because fans wanted it and they saw it as a way to make some quick cash.

I mean seriously Koko B. Ware has gotten more recognition than Savage.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The shooting wasn't why he had a bad week


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[cougarjake13]

hilarious

[TripleSkeet]

From LOP

Former WWE champion CM Punk appeared on Abe Kanan Show's Sirius XM satellite radio show this week and spoke with 77-year-old Thomas Dotterer, the liquor store robbery victim who was shot in the eye, but said the worst thing that happened all week was Punk losing to The Rock at the Royal Rumble.

Dotterer was talking about the robbery returning to work right after being released from the hospital - when he was surprised by a guest caller, CM Punk.

Dotterer said he’s a wrestling fan going back to the 1940s when he watched Gorgeous George with his father. He said he follows Ring of Honor and TNA Wrestling and appreciates Punk’s success. He said Punk’s hard work and dedication is why he was so upset that The Rock beat him.

Punk then offered Dotterer to be his special guest when WWE is in Syracuse for a live event on March 3.

[cougarjake13]

that right there makes him more cooler then anything cena has done in his career

[Kevin]

Im still convinced the Steph story is true. Ive never seen a guy that was such a huge star pretty much ignored by the WWE since he left. Even the DVD they did for him had no sit down interviews with him now. I think they just made it because fans wanted it and they saw it as a way to make some quick cash.

I mean seriously Koko B. Ware has gotten more recognition than Savage.


Well other theories out there is that Savage slapped Vince at some kind of party embarrassing him in front of important people.

And at the time of serious financial downturn, savage stole the lucrative slim Jim account from WWE when he went to WCW.

But then again Steph was a huge whore when she was young, from what I heard so it very well could be true.

[newport king]

that right there makes him more cooler then anything cena has done in his career


To be fair i dont think a kid with cancer HASNT met Cena

[conman823]

Another Savage rumor was that when everyone was bailing for WCW Savage swore up and down that he would stay loyal no matter what then cut out when he was supposed to sign another contract.

Whatever it is it had to be bad because just about EVERYONE was forgiven at one point or another.

[TripleSkeet]

Another Savage rumor was that when everyone was bailing for WCW Savage swore up and down that he would stay loyal no matter what then cut out when he was supposed to sign another contract.

Whatever it is it had to be bad because just about EVERYONE was forgiven at one point or another.

Thats why I think its the Steph thing. He left for WCW because Vuince wanted him announcing and thought his wrestling days were over. Piper and Foley did the same thing along with plenty of others and were always welcomed back. Theres also been plenty of true stories of wrestlers hitting Vince, including Bret Hart, again, all forgiven.

The only 3 I can think of that are pretty much blackballed by the WWE is Luger because he left right after a PPV after giving Vince his word he would sign his extension. Jarrett for basically holding the IC belt for ransom when he found out his contract expired the night before the PPV where he dropped it to Chyna. Word is he made Vince pay him an enormous sum of money for one night of work. And the 3rd is Savage, which nobody has ever come forward and said why. If it were anything other than banging Steph I cant see someone from the WWE not just saying it, as theyve said everything about evertyone else.

[conman823]

that right there makes him more cooler then anything cena has done in his career

John Cena will never be my favorite performer but I've always given him credit for his drive and dedication. His Make a Wish time alone would make me walk right up to him and shake his hand like a man.

The guys a work horse.

[newport king]

Thats why I think its the Steph thing. He left for WCW because Vuince wanted him announcing and thought his wrestling days were over. Piper and Foley did the same thing along with plenty of others and were always welcomed back. Theres also been plenty of true stories of wrestlers hitting Vince, including Bret Hart, again, all forgiven.

The only 3 I can think of that are pretty much blackballed by the WWE is Luger because he left right after a PPV after giving Vince his word he would sign his extension. Jarrett for basically holding the IC belt for ransom when he found out his contract expired the night before the PPV where he dropped it to Chyna. Word is he made Vince pay him an enormous sum of money for one night of work. And the 3rd is Savage, which nobody has ever come forward and said why. If it were anything other than banging Steph I cant see someone from the WWE not just saying it, as theyve said everything about evertyone else.

I think she was well under 18.

[TripleSkeet]

I think she was well under 18.

I have no idea. Regardless I just think thats the reason.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Breaking news
Source: WWE
WWE officially announced today that Bruno Sammartino will be inducted into the 2013 Hall of Fame. Sammartino is a 2 time WWWF Champion, and is also the longest-reigning World Heavyweight champion in the company's history.

"Triple H contacted me and started telling me all the things that had changed and everything that was going on with WWE," Bruno told WWE.com. "I started watching it after talking to him and when I saw it, I was very, very impressed."

WWE has also added Bruno to the Alumni section of WWE.com at this link.

Read more: http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2013/0204/560110/bruno-sammartino-wwe-hall-of-fame/#ixzz2JyDlYgAe

[cougarjake13]

loving big John studd on raw
err jack swagger

[Kevin]

Jericho is out like a year and still puts on a better match than 95% of the roster.

[Kevin]

Breaking news
Source: WWE
WWE officially announced today that Bruno Sammartino will be inducted into the 2013 Hall of Fame. Sammartino is a 2 time WWWF Champion, and is also the longest-reigning World Heavyweight champion in the company's history.

"Triple H contacted me and started telling me all the things that had changed and everything that was going on with WWE," Bruno told WWE.com. "I started watching it after talking to him and when I saw it, I was very, very impressed."

WWE has also added Bruno to the Alumni section of WWE.com at this link.

Read more: http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2013/0204/560110/bruno-sammartino-wwe-hall-of-fame/#ixzz2JyDlYgAe

Impressed by WHAT exactly!?

What part of this would he like?

[Kevin]

IF they do some kind of Goddamn angle with Punk and Bruno for WM, I might give up..

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Probably the bag of money with the big $ on it impressed him most of all.

[newport king]

Im assuming Bruno wasnt into the attitude era.

What does Cesaro wear on his legs?

I like Kane with Bryan. Adds way more personality.

Mark Henry pulls off the monster gimmick 100x's better than Show. And Ryback.

Brock was a bit stiff with Miz.

PPV quality match between Punk and Y2J.

no Ziggler tonight?

[Kevin]

All of that to show big show clumsily beat up Del Rio in the Hotel corridor?

Then get knocked out by a shot that missed by more than a Dwight Howard FT!

Sigh...

And btw, no way there is still that much food on big shows plate after all that time under real circumstances..

[newport king]

Whats the purpose of brad maddox?

[Kevin]

Whats the purpose of brad maddox?

To set up maybe the worst end of Raw in history?

What was THAT?

[newport king]

Big show got ko'd by a shot to the arm

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The shield angle is worse than the Mean Street Posse

[MIKEYDAKEN]

The shield angle is worse than the Mean Street Posse

and that really sucks cause ambrose and rollins are good man look up some of their indy stuff fuck the roided up samoan though he's garbage.

[TripleSkeet]

Impressed by WHAT exactly!?

What part of this would he like?

Well he hated the Attitude Era which was the greatest era in wrestling history so it only makes sense he would like this dogshit. By the way, its amazing how much worse the show is when The Rock isnt on it. The 2 best parts of the show was Jerichos match and Lesnar / Heyman. Sad.

I was just thinking of one other way they can save Wrestlemania. At the next PPV during the championship match (make it no DQ, and bar The Shield), have The Rock hit Punk with a Rock Bottom, then a peoples elbow. When he goes for the pin, the lights go out. Everyone will be expecting the Shield. When the lights come back on....The Undertaker is standing behind The Rock. Undertaker hits him with a tombstone, Punk gets the pin.

Next night on Raw Taker comes out and says hes picked his next Wrestlemania victim, and thats the biggest crossover star in Wrestlemania history and someone thats never faced him at Mania before....The Rock. Then you have Punk / Cena at Mania and go from there.

[newport king]

Well he hated the Attitude Era which was the greatest era in wrestling history so it only makes sense he would like this dogshit. By the way, its amazing how much worse the show is when The Rock isnt on it. The 2 best parts of the show was Jerichos match and Lesnar / Heyman. Sad.

I was just thinking of one other way they can save Wrestlemania. At the next PPV during the championship match (make it no DQ, and bar The Shield), have The Rock hit Punk with a Rock Bottom, then a peoples elbow. When he goes for the pin, the lights go out. Everyone will be expecting the Shield. When the lights come back on....The Undertaker is standing behind The Rock. Undertaker hits him with a tombstone, Punk gets the pin.

Next night on Raw Taker comes out and says hes picked his next Wrestlemania victim, and thats the biggest crossover star in Wrestlemania history and someone thats never faced him at Mania before....The Rock. Then you have Punk / Cena at Mania and go from there.

Ive read a few reports that Taker may not be ready to go by Mania. The original plan was to have him face punk. Now the main event may be a 3way match

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and that really sucks cause ambrose and rollins are good man look up some of their indy stuff fuck the roided up samoan though he's garbage.

I think people like AJ Styles and Sting are reluctant to join the WWE is probably due to what their characters might turn into.


Hasn't Vince been chasing Sting for at least 15 years? I'm sure he would probably be one of the highest paid wrestlers on the roster but he wants nothing of it.

[TripleSkeet]

I think people like AJ Styles and Sting are reluctant to join the WWE is probably due to what their characters might turn into.


Hasn't Vince been chasing Sting for at least 15 years? I'm sure he would probably be one of the highest paid wrestlers on the roster but he wants nothing of it.

I could see that with AJ but not Sting. Hes too established. Vince couldnt change his character. Just like he couldnt with Goldberg or Steiner.

[TripleSkeet]

Ive read a few reports that Taker may not be ready to go by Mania. The original plan was to have him face punk. Now the main event may be a 3way match

Yea I saw that. Not for nothing but if the guy cant go than he should just hang it up. Hes wrestled 1 match a year for the last few years, I mean if you cant heal up and get back into ring shape in a year, you never will.

[newport king]

agreed. id love to see them send him out with the belt. win and retire and have a tourney. i thought WM4 was awesome when i was a kid when they did that

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I could see that with AJ but not Sting. Hes too established. Vince couldnt change his character. Just like he couldnt with Goldberg or Steiner.



I'm sure Vince learned his lesson when he fucked up Dusty Rhodes character in the late 80's

[WRESTLINGFAN]

agreed. id love to see them send him out with the belt. win and retire and have a tourney. i thought WM4 was awesome when i was a kid when they did that



They probably won't have a full tourney for a PPV but I can see them having qualifying matches on Raw then have the finals at a PPV

[TripleSkeet]

I'm sure Vince learned his lesson when he fucked up Dusty Rhodes character in the late 80's

I think back then it was more about making fun of the Crockets and saying "Heres your big star". And to his credit he took that shit gimmick and got over huge with it. Also, Dusty never had that prototypical body Vince craves. Neither does Sting but hes also not a fat ass so that helps. I mean they were trying to sign the guy and his first match wouldve been Undertaker at Wrestlemania. That shows major respect when you look at it.

[Kevin]

Sting is one of those awful born agains now.

He is like HBK.

Maybe the suck WWE will make him want to sign here.

It sucks that two guys that rarely wrestle in Brock Rock are the best things going right now.

Its the only time i am interested.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Brock is awful. I read a few weeks back that he re upped , look for a title reign even though he will remain on a limited schedule

[styckx]

I think back then it was more about making fun of the Crockets and saying "Heres your big star". And to his credit he took that shit gimmick and got over huge with it. Also, Dusty never had that prototypical body Vince craves. Neither does Sting but hes also not a fat ass so that helps. I mean they were trying to sign the guy and his first match wouldve been Undertaker at Wrestlemania. That shows major respect when you look at it.

Sting knows how Vince is.. From my understanding Sting doesn't want Vince to do to his character what Vince has done to 95% of the "competitions" characters once they get to WWE.. Vince is fucking ruthless with that shit.. The worst was what he turned Lance Storm into. Getting Austin to chant boring during his matches.

Then this shit.

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[conman823]

Lance storm is a great wrestler, he's not much of an entertainer. WWE has always been the land of characters. Some guys just CAN'T do the WWE style.

What does a past his prime Sting have to gain from going to WWE? I'm sure he isn't in dire financial straits like Flair, and he makes a good nickel being a big fish in a small pond. When he retires from TNA he will be put in the WWE HOF so he doesn't even have to worry about that.

Bruno is a true legend and deserves to be in there, he just could never change with the times.

[conman823]

The worst thing Austin ever did was start the "WHAT?" Chants. I fucking hate it, and any crowd doing it still sounds retarded.

[TripleSkeet]

Lance storm is a great wrestler, he's not much of an entertainer. WWE has always been the land of characters. Some guys just CAN'T do the WWE style.

What does a past his prime Sting have to gain from going to WWE? I'm sure he isn't in dire financial straits like Flair, and he makes a good nickel being a big fish in a small pond. When he retires from TNA he will be put in the WWE HOF so he doesn't even have to worry about that.

Bruno is a true legend and deserves to be in there, he just could never change with the times.

His Wrestlemania moment. I dont care who you are, if you are a wrestler, you want to wrestle at Wrestlemania. I saw the interview he did where he said he was so close to signing because he wanted that Wrestlemania match and it was going to be against the Undertaker, but he felt he needed to be loyal to TNA.

[TripleSkeet]

The worst thing Austin ever did was start the "WHAT?" Chants. I fucking hate it, and any crowd doing it still sounds retarded.

Agreed. I hate it. That would be the one thing I would hate if he came back for a program with Punk, is that it would start that shit back up again. The worst part is he was great at cutting promos, but after that caught on he just sticks with it. He never switches to something new.

[styckx]

His Wrestlemania moment. I dont care who you are, if you are a wrestler, you want to wrestle at Wrestlemania. I saw the interview he did where he said he was so close to signing because he wanted that Wrestlemania match and it was going to be against the Undertaker, but he felt he needed to be loyal to TNA.

I hope Sting does his Taker match.. Taker is getting old as hell and has nothing left to prove. I think Sting Vs Taker would work well. Sting works extremely light so Taker wouldn't have to do another "destroy my body to sell a match" style match.. I think it would work well from a pure old school wrestling stand point. Both are pros at telling a story while wrestling a match.. Bret Hart was master of it also.. Such a lost art form.

[Dirtbag]

Sting is a waste of one of the few matches Taker has left in him. If casual fans cared about Sting, TNA wouldn't be in the toilet.

[cougarjake13]

Agreed. I hate it. That would be the one thing I would hate if he came back for a program with Punk, is that it would start that shit back up again. The worst part is he was great at cutting promos, but after that caught on he just sticks with it. He never switches to something new.


start up ?

it's still happens at least 5 times a raw

[conman823]

"Casual Wrestling Fans" are the worst. They are conditioned by WWE to accept nothing else but thier product. There is nothing wrong with checking out TNA from time to time, I still do.

The casual fans believe TNA is shit because it isn't WWE. I'm a fan of wrestling and check out TNA, ROH and on the occasion some Japan stuff. Although Japan isn't what it once was but that's a different rant.

Casual Fans chant WHAT? but unfortunelty are the majority and we are the minority.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

"Casual Wrestling Fans" are the worst. They are conditioned by WWE to accept nothing else but thier product. There is nothing wrong with checking out TNA from time to time, I still do.

The casual fans believe TNA is shit because it isn't WWE. I'm a fan of wrestling and check out TNA, ROH and on the occasion some Japan stuff. Although Japan isn't what it once was but that's a different rant.

Casual Fans chant WHAT? but unfortunelty are the majority and we are the minority.


Back in the day , there were so many other organizations on TV. I 1st watched the WWF because it was the predominant fed in the Northeast .


I came across the NWA by accident . I 1st thought if was just a Podunk league that looked like it was taped in someone's basement. They used to have the Sat night shows in a WTBS studio.


Espn had tapings of AWA and World Class Championship Wrestling.

Speaking of WCCW the Von Erichs were like the Kennedys of wrestling

[cougarjake13]

sadly 25 yrs from now people will still chant what ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The best one syllable word that never gets old


DAMN !!!!!!!!

[Kevin]

sadly 25 yrs from now people will still chant what ?

WHAT?

[conman823]

I watched the GWF awfulness back when on ESPN.

[TripleSkeet]

Sting is a waste of one of the few matches Taker has left in him. If casual fans cared about Sting, TNA wouldn't be in the toilet.

Youre crazy. If Sting faced Undertaker at Mnia it would draw HUGE.

[newport king]

I dont know. I kind of agree with Dirtbags point. Its not 97 anymore where hes in the rafters. Last time i checked in with TNA he was doung a Heath Ledger impression. It was pretty douchey

[brettmojo]

Youre crazy. If Sting faced Undertaker at Mnia it would draw HUGE.

10 years ago.

None of the current WWE fan base even remembers who he is.

It might not even bring in the old hardcore fans turned away because of the Cenation. They've barely been interested enough to check out the Rock's return.

[cougarjake13]

I dont know. I kind of agree with Dirtbags point. Its not 97 anymore where hes in the rafters. Last time i checked in with TNA he was doung a Heath Ledger impression. It was pretty douchey



I applaud him trying to change the character a bit
execution not so much

[TripleSkeet]

10 years ago.

None of the current WWE fan base even remembers who he is.

It might not even bring in the old hardcore fans turned away because of the Cenation. They've barely been interested enough to check out the Rock's return.

Do you realize since The Rock came back Raw has been doing roughly 1 million more viewers then they had before his return? Id say thats a little more then barely been interested.

All I know is, when the rumors started swirling about it last year, there was alot of buzz on the net. Wrestling fans never just go away completely. If people found out Sting was wrestling The Undertaker at Mania, there would be a shit load of people watching it that ordinarily wouldnt have ordered it. The fans of the older eras are there, but they arent going to watch unless they see the people they want to see.

Nobody that gave up on wrestling 5-7 years ago is going to come back to see John Cena. Or CM Punk. Or the Shield or Orton or any of the current "stars". They will however tune in to see The Rock. Or Brock Lesnar. Or Stone Cold. I know guys that hadnt watched Raw in 6 years tune in every week last year before Mania because The Rock was on the show. Once he left they stopped completely until he came back again this year. They dont care about the WWE, they care about watching the stars they want to see.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Do you realize since The Rock came back Raw has been doing roughly 1 million more viewers then they had before his return? Id say thats a little more then barely been interested.

All I know is, when the rumors started swirling about it last year, there was alot of buzz on the net. Wrestling fans never just go away completely. If people found out Sting was wrestling The Undertaker at Mania, there would be a shit load of people watching it that ordinarily wouldnt have ordered it. The fans of the older eras are there, but they arent going to watch unless they see the people they want to see.

Nobody that gave up on wrestling 5-7 years ago is going to come back to see John Cena. Or CM Punk. Or the Shield or Orton or any of the current "stars". They will however tune in to see The Rock. Or Brock Lesnar. Or Stone Cold. I know guys that hadnt watched Raw in 6 years tune in every week last year before Mania because The Rock was on the show. Once he left they stopped completely until he came back again this year. They dont care about the WWE, they care about watching the stars they want to see.

I think in part pushing the WM streak and having 'Taker wrestle even though its once a year boosts up ratings. The last few years especially wrestling HHH and HBK, the matches were very good.


I know its questionable that he will wrestle this year. Its not definite, However a decentPunk/'Taker storyline can be done

[brettmojo]

Do you realize since The Rock came back Raw has been doing roughly 1 million more viewers then they had before his return? Id say thats a little more then barely been interested.

All I know is, when the rumors started swirling about it last year, there was alot of buzz on the net. Wrestling fans never just go away completely. If people found out Sting was wrestling The Undertaker at Mania, there would be a shit load of people watching it that ordinarily wouldnt have ordered it. The fans of the older eras are there, but they arent going to watch unless they see the people they want to see.

Nobody that gave up on wrestling 5-7 years ago is going to come back to see John Cena. Or CM Punk. Or the Shield or Orton or any of the current "stars". They will however tune in to see The Rock. Or Brock Lesnar. Or Stone Cold. I know guys that hadnt watched Raw in 6 years tune in every week last year before Mania because The Rock was on the show. Once he left they stopped completely until he came back again this year. They dont care about the WWE, they care about watching the stars they want to see.

"Highest ratings in over a year"

Is it the highest ratings since the Rock left? Since Austin left? Since before the W-W-Kiddie era began? No. A few came back, the majority hasn't. If they were pulling watchers away from Monday Night Football maybe it'd be a little impressive... But it's not. There's no football, no competition for their demographic of viewers and yet they're pulling in only the highest ratings since the Rock was around last year... Even after handing him the world title.

When you shit on the people who made you a billion dollar company for nearly a decade it takes a lot more than a handing over of a title reign just to set up a passing of a torch scripted symbolic victory for someone who couldn't even warrant Billy Gunn-esque heat if he had been around during the attitude era.

Everyone else has moved on. Which is what we will all do once again after Wrestlemania if not before... Because we all see the shit that's coming.

[newport king]

Nobody that gave up on wrestling 5-7 years ago is going to come back to see John Cena. Or CM Punk. Or the Shield or Orton or any of the current "stars". They will however tune in to see The Rock. Or Brock Lesnar. Or Stone Cold. I know guys that hadnt watched Raw in 6 years tune in every week last year before Mania because The Rock was on the show. Once he left they stopped completely until he came back again this year. They dont care about the WWE, they care about watching the stars they want to see.

I checked out for a few years. Missed the whole Batista run/ the knockoff 4horsemen/ majority of Lesnars run/ Edge carrying the belt.

I put in on about a month before Punks big shoot. And afterwards they had me again. Sadly it hasnt really gone the way i had hoped. I know it was early but when he came back after Cena won and walked to the ring and went face to face with him, that was probably the biggest mark out moment for me since y2j debuted.

[cougarjake13]

I tapped out before hogan left for wcw
missed all of attitude

came back just before lesnar debut
periodically watch on and off since then

[newport king]

Howd u miss the whole attitude era?? I thought the monday night wars were unavoidable

[cougarjake13]

right around 93 I was 16 and just stopped watching wrestling at all
up til then I watched the wrestling superstars on Sundays and sat night main event but I just lost interest
watched more football baseball hockey


started dating a chick in 02 who was into wrestling and started watching again

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Howd u miss the whole attitude era?? I thought the monday night wars were unavoidable

Nitro beat out Raw in the ratings back then. I think it was at least 75 weeks in a row

[TripleSkeet]

I tapped out before hogan left for wcw
missed all of attitude

came back just before lesnar debut
periodically watch on and off since then

Wow. Do yourself a favor and pay the $7.99 a month for WWE Classics. Then watch the history of Monday Night Raw under TV classics, it updates every 2 weeks. Youll have missed a very good year, but youll catch it just in time to see some of the greatest televised wrestling shows ever. Right now they are building up to Royal Rumble 99. Stone Cold hasnt even been on it the last 2 shows and its still 100 times better than Raw now.

[TripleSkeet]

I think in part pushing the WM streak and having 'Taker wrestle even though its once a year boosts up ratings. The last few years especially wrestling HHH and HBK, the matches were very good.


I know its questionable that he will wrestle this year. Its not definite, However a decentPunk/'Taker storyline can be done

Im not saying a Punk / Taker match wont draw. I just think if they got Sting alot more people would buy it that normally wouldnt.

[TripleSkeet]

"Highest ratings in over a year"

Is it the highest ratings since the Rock left? Since Austin left? Since before the W-W-Kiddie era began? No. A few came back, the majority hasn't. If they were pulling watchers away from Monday Night Football maybe it'd be a little impressive... But it's not. There's no football, no competition for their demographic of viewers and yet they're pulling in only the highest ratings since the Rock was around last year... Even after handing him the world title.

When you shit on the people who made you a billion dollar company for nearly a decade it takes a lot more than a handing over of a title reign just to set up a passing of a torch scripted symbolic victory for someone who couldn't even warrant Billy Gunn-esque heat if he had been around during the attitude era.

Everyone else has moved on. Which is what we will all do once again after Wrestlemania if not before... Because we all see the shit that's coming.

Im not sure I get your point. Are you saying its not impressive for one guy to boost Raws ratings by over a million viewers? Thats insane. Of course they arent putting up Attitude Era numbers. at one point in '99 they did an 8.1 Thats twice as much as they pull now and 3 times as much as they were doing before The Rock came back.

Right now there are ALOT of people watching Raw solely because of The Rock. The end of MNF for the year is a bullshit excuse. As well see when The Rock goes back to making movies after mania and the numbers start to plummet again. You cant blame him for that. Its not his fault Vince aint making any new stars. Look at how they blew Punks run. Look at how they are fucking up Zigglers push. For as long as Ive followed wrestling, heard behind the scenes interviews, read books on it, all the advice people gave for running a successful wrestling promotion are being ignored now. They dont even listen to their fanbase. Remember that picture of The Rock they showed a few weeks back with the corny getup and pineapple hair? If he started wrestling during this era with that gimmick hed still have it and he never wouldve become the star he is.

[styckx]

Apparently The Miz botched a Suplex and dropped CM Punk on his head at a house show last night.

The CM Punk injury occurred when Miz lifted him up for a suplex. Miz held him straight up to "let the blood rush to the head," but then when Miz was preparing to drop him onto his back, The Miz lost his balance and dropped Punk head first on to the mat. Medical officials immediately rushed to ringside to check on Punk, who rolled out of the ring. They worked on Punk for several minutes as the match continued in the ring. Punk eventually returned to the match, but was slow moving and did little, as he was clearly shaken up. After the match, officials helped Punk back to the locker room.

http://i.imgur.com/3VKmopJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qbp3Wfo.jpg

[cougarjake13]

could really throw a wrench into their plans


second time it's happened to punk
ryback I get as he's green but miz has been around long enough

[newport king]

I think Miz is known for this kind of thing.

[epo]

I think Miz is known for this kind of thing.

He did the same thing to R-truth. Little Jimmy was not amused.

[styckx]

He botches a metric shit ton, just most of them don't almost sideline someones career.. The pussy is afraid to bump and he's constantly protecting himself when he's supposed to be protecting the other guy.

[cougarjake13]

I nvr really noticed that but I'll be looking for it now

[TripleSkeet]

You know a guys a fuck up when he doesnt know how to apply a figure four. I could do that move perfectly at 8 years old.

[brettmojo]

Some dead dude with a Wrestlemania win streak just happens to be in Nashville tonight...

[cougarjake13]

Some dead dude with a Wrestlemania win streak just happens to be in Nashville tonight...



oh god

y?

[DarkHippie]

Some dead dude with a Wrestlemania win streak just happens to be in Nashville tonight...

I thought that his hip and shoulder were injured

[newport king]

Punk/Lesnar beatdown on the Rock, Taker to the recue? Lesnar/Taker at Mania?

[newport king]

Besides his size, how is Khali a wrestler? It looks like he wears orthodics. And cant walk. Mark Henry is a GREAT big man. Yeah i said it

[DarkHippie]

Besides his size, how is Khali a wrestler? It looks like he wears orthodics. And cant walk. Mark Henry is a GREAT big man. Yeah i said it

youre right, Mark Henry is great. It wasn't until recently that the wwe started using him correctly. Sexual Chocolate :(

[newport king]

Jericho 2nd PPV quality match on RAW in as many weeks. Welcome back indeed.

[cougarjake13]

Punk/Lesnar beatdown on the Rock, Taker to the recue? Lesnar/Taker at Mania?



yeh I could see that but why would brick come back to lose ?

plus it's prolly gonna be trips lesnar

[DarkHippie]

I want to watch a RAW that is just Daniel Bryan and Chris Jericho wrestling each other

[newport king]

What a fuckin awesome match. Amazing what can happen when you put 2 WRESTLERS in a ring.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jericho calling him Daniel Beardant!!

Haha

[DarkHippie]

I cant wait to see them go at in the elimination chamber. I hope this leads to a big feud

[Kevin]

Are they doing a gay tea party theme now?

[newport king]

Whoa. Racism angle. Ok.

[DarkHippie]

How awesome is Cesaro?! He just picked Miz up and swung him back and forth. ive never seen that before

[asayresk]

How Awesome, Brodus Clay loves to read.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A J Lee is awesomely hot.

[Kevin]

Whats Brodus and Albert gunna be call.

Heart Attack?

[newport king]

Im a fan of Clay and Tensai. Tensai was dead in the water. Clay was only gonna go so far with his gimmick. Good for albert. He got dealt a shit gimmick. Im glad they found something for him to get over.

Side note. Impressive move by the black chick

[DarkHippie]

Im a fan of Clay and Tensai. Tensai was dead in the water. Clay was only gonna go so far with his gimmick. Good for albert. He got dealt a shit gimmick. Im glad they found something for him to get over.

Side note. Impressive move by the black chick

Tensai is a veteran and a good worker, so I think that he will make up for Clay's lack of ring experience. It's a good match.

[newport king]

Roman Reigns sucks

[Kevin]

You're WELCOME!

[cougarjake13]

Roman Reigns sucks



yeh he's basically gonna be like the other guys from nexus we no longer hear from

[Kevin]

yeh he's basically gonna be like the other guys from nexus we no longer hear from

Is that the guy who looks like a jacked up Percy from Green Mile?

[Dirtbag]

yeh he's basically gonna be like the other guys from nexus we no longer hear from

He's a relative of the Rock and has the look Vince adores. He's not going anywhere.

[styckx]

The champ decides to show up for the final 10 minutes.. *fighting champ*

[Kevin]

What in the blue hell is he babbling about?

What a champ.

[styckx]

That... That was their go home show? That was the big sell for Rock Vs Punk ][??

So much autism backstage...

[cougarjake13]

He's a relative of the Rock and has the look Vince adores. He's not going anywhere.

physically no

but as a career I'm not expecting much

[cougarjake13]

Is that the guy who looks like a jacked up Percy from Green Mile?



no he's the taller one who needs the other 2 to help him do a power bomb
he has the longer black hair in a ponytail

[styckx]

Rumor going around Cena cheated on his wife with this porn star and WWE is threatening to sue her if she goes public.

But there are these pics also.

http://i.imgur.com/xTKkKOE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vyk0gz2.jpg

[epo]

A wrestler banged a whore? Wow, JR was right...Cena is the most controversial wrestler of all-time!

[Dirtbag]

The current WWE title doesn't spin and hasnt for like 5 years. That was either ages ago, or some whore posing with a replica.

[cougarjake13]

and ud think he'd be able to get a better looking porn chick


unless he has a thing for ugly milfs

[TripleSkeet]

Rumor going around Cena cheated on his wife with this porn star and WWE is threatening to sue her if she goes public.

But there are these pics also.

http://i.imgur.com/xTKkKOE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vyk0gz2.jpg

Please let these go public. Although I doubt it as that doesnt look like the real belt.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, my DVR shut off after the first hour last night. I miss anything?

[cougarjake13]

Also, my DVR shut off after the first hour last night. I miss anything?



nope

[DarkHippie]

He's a relative of the Rock and has the look Vince adores. He's not going anywhere.

Everyone in wrestling is a relative of the Rock.

[Kevin]

If he ruined a marriage for that hideous crow with a fake plastic body, then he is an idiot and deserves to lose everything.

Unless its Kate Upton or Katy Perry, I am not cheating on my wife, especially for a generic bimbo like that.

[TripleSkeet]

If he ruined a marriage for that hideous crow with a fake plastic body, then he is an idiot and deserves to lose everything.

Unless its Kate Upton or Katy Perry, I am not cheating on my wife, especially for a generic bimbo like that.

What if your wife looks like Vicky Guerrero?

[Kevin]

What if your wife looks like Vicky Guerrero?

She would never look like her..

I do not see what Eddie was thinking. I can't possibly see her being remotely attractive at any stage of her life.

[cougarjake13]

She would never look like her..

I do not see what Eddie was thinking. I can't possibly see her being remotely attractive at any stage of her life.



im thinking she was a knocked up road groupie

[Kevin]

im thinking she was a knocked up road groupie

When he was on crack and on beer #22?

[conman823]

Cena can do far better.

RAW was a B. I liked a lot of the in ring action, and Heyman/Punk seem to be setting something up for the future. Punks face was great during the hug.

The Rocks promo was funny but not really relevant to the angle with Punk. He should wrestle at least a few RAWs even if it is squash matches. Still I maintain that the Punk feud is way better then the Cena feud.

Can anyone tell me what the plans for the Shield are? I'm completely lost in this angle and have no idea where it's headed after Sunday.

[epo]

If he ruined a marriage for that hideous crow with a fake plastic body, then he is an idiot and deserves to lose everything.

Unless its Kate Upton or Katy Perry, I am not cheating on my wife, especially for a generic bimbo like that.

I hate this argument. You and I aren't professional jocks who are on the road 200 days per year. Listen I know it's fucking dumb of him to do, but we have zero clue what it's like to be in his shoes.

That's why the smartest man in the world on this topic is Derek Jeter.

[cougarjake13]

Cena can do far better.

RAW was a B. I liked a lot of the in ring action, and Heyman/Punk seem to be setting something up for the future. Punks face was great during the hug.

The Rocks promo was funny but not really relevant to the angle with Punk. He should wrestle at least a few RAWs even if it is squash matches. Still I maintain that the Punk feud is way better then the Cena feud.

Can anyone tell me what the plans for the Shield are? I'm completely lost in this angle and have no idea where it's headed after Sunday.

I'm curious as well
I kinda liked the idea of the heel stable with shield Brock and punk

[cougarjake13]

When he was on crack and on beer #22?



exactly

[Kevin]

I hate this argument. You and I aren't professional jocks who are on the road 200 days per year. Listen I know it's fucking dumb of him to do, but we have zero clue what it's like to be in his shoes.

That's why the smartest man in the world on this topic is Derek Jeter.

I understand it and can't say I wouldn't in his position especially travel and all that.

I have a problem with him doing it with a awful generic wicked witch looking shrew with silicone.

[styckx]

This is so sad.. DDP deserves a spot in the HOF or some kind of award.. Dude has done more behind the scenes for the business.. Dude has proved he's a class act time and time again. So sad hearing Scott saying what he's saying

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Roberts looks like he's in better physical shape. Has DDP been doing these interventions/outreach for a long time?


I always thought Roberts would be one of the wrestlers who would take his own life or overdose. Kudos to DDP for doing his part to help these guys out.

[styckx]

Roberts looks like he's in better physical shape. Has DDP been doing these interventions/outreach for a long time?


I always thought Roberts would be one of the wrestlers who would take his own life or overdose. Kudos to DDP for doing his part to help these guys out.

His DDP Yoga is a legit major success and he's constantly coaching others. By legit I mean not the fake success WWE brags about various other projects associated with their talent. ie: Ratings, WWE movies etc.. :smoke:

7 million views and counting.

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[cougarjake13]

damn that shit is inspiring

[Gmann]

maybe its me and my own personal shit that Ive been going thru, but I watched that vid and cried the whole way thru.

[newport king]

That was pretty awesome

[Kevin]

Why is it telling me the video is private... Anyone know?

[DiabloSammich]

Why is it telling me the video is private... Anyone know?



It doesn't like Albanians.

[Kevin]

It doesn't like Albanians.

Who does!

Its like being from Delaware!

Welcome back DIABLO!

[DiabloSammich]

Who does!

Its like being from Delaware!

Welcome back DIABLO!



Whoa, whoa, I'm not back. I just felt the need for a racial slur. See you in another two years.

[Kevin]

Whoa, whoa, I'm not back. I just felt the need for a racial slur. See you in another two years.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Btw did I hear right that fandick is not a sober born again?

[TripleSkeet]

That was incredibly inspiring, but I have to admit, when he fell I laughed my ass off.

[Kevin]

That was incredibly inspiring, but I have to admit, when he fell I laughed my ass off.

So did I...

[cougarjake13]

So did I...



I think we all did


funnys funny

[cougarjake13]

I know they were on social media looking for a team name for brodus and tensai



wife came up with funky train


I know he isn't a train anymore but it's sounds good enough

[styckx]

What they did to Tensai reminds me of the AE way of doing things.. If one gimmick doesn't pan out just resort to the exact opposite.. Tensai was forced as a super serious no-frills machine and it didn't work out. Then tried a goofy dancing parody of himself.. And.. It works...

[MIKEYDAKEN]

match 1 and ADR botches big time. asshole

[cougarjake13]

and no ziggler cash in

[Kevin]

With the Racist angle.

It will be swagger and the Tea Party vs The Mexican..

[Kevin]

So goddamn predictable.

You can tell angles 2ppvs away with these dickheads.

[Kevin]

Btw..

When the hell did Fez become Swaggers manager?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Btw..

When the hell did Fez become Swaggers manager?

come on zeb speaks.

[styckx]

The fake "Let's Go Rocky - C-M PUNK" chants are awful