Monday Night RAW Discussion

[newport king]

Someone at work told me Lesnar "broke" HHH arm again, and announcers were selling it as will HHH ever return? Gee, what do u guys think? HHH returns for Mania and beats him on the big stage with everyone watching?

[cougarjake13]

Someone at work told me Lesnar "broke" HHH arm again, and announcers were selling it as will HHH ever return? Gee, what do u guys think? HHH returns for Mania and beats him on the big stage with everyone watching?



sounds right

[TripleSkeet]

The best part is, they cut matches because of "time constraints" yet put on a 10 minutes concert that nobody gave a fuck about and then saved time for HHH's fond farewell after the match because it was "essential to the storyline". During that very emotional farewell, what did the fans do? Chant YOU TAPPED OUT loud as fuck. So great.

[newport king]

Oh shit thats pretty funny. East coast?

[TripleSkeet]

Oh shit thats pretty funny. East coast?

I think they were in LA.

[cougarjake13]

I think they were in LA.



yep it was at staples

[conman823]

Read the results. Glad I saved the money.

They paid a lot of money to Brock Lesner to completely bury him. I don't understand it. He loses to Super Cena, leaves the ring area and we get a 10 min purposeless rant about time off and we see him on RAW the next night.
now although he wins the match the last thing seen is HHH tearing up and "retiring ".

[newport king]

Im sure we'll see steph and the kids on tv pushing him for a rematch around mania

[NickyL0885]

Ryder on RAW?! SSSIIICCCKKK!

[MIKEYDAKEN]

well i guess jericho will come back next year.

[NickyL0885]

well i guess jericho will come back next year.

Time for him to tour with Fozzy to promote their new album.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Time for him to tour with Fozzy to promote their new album.

only upside to that is he made ziggler with that loss.

[TripleSkeet]

So is Cenas new cheesy catchphrase gonna be "Believe in Yourself" now?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

So is Cenas new cheesy catchphrase gonna be "Believe in Yourself" now?

hasn't it always been some tony robbins shit that VKM would slap on merch.

[cougarjake13]

only upside to that is he made ziggler with that loss.



I got worried when they made that match cause last time was when mr Kennedy had it but was injured and lost it in a match to edge so I was hoping ziggs wasn't hurt

[conman823]

Jericho vs. Ziggler was the best WRESTLING match on RAW in at least 2 years. They should have given them 5 more minutes and spared us the god awful Punk/Lawler craptastic ending.

[TjM]

I hope you people have been reading the "Virgilbag" at deadspin

http://deadspin.com/virgilbag/

[TjM]

I really want to call bull shit on the Foley story

[cougarjake13]

that shits funny as hell

[conman823]

Love how they are worried about SD ratings when its become just a huge RAW recap show and fuckin Micheal Cole one man announce "team"

[conman823]

So Rey Misterio comes back from Injury/Wellness violation and gets a severe concussion and will be out for several weeks.

It might be time for this one time great to hang it up.

[cougarjake13]

Love how they are worried about SD ratings when its become just a huge RAW recap show and fuckin Micheal Cole one man announce "team"



ye it's basically 5 hours of raw a week

[newport king]

Good promo so far from Punk, but did he have a stroke before we went on air? Just stumbling over words

[epo]

Ryback is just fucking awful.

[NickyL0885]

Punk vs Lawler.

Color me not excited, or shocked.

[epo]

Punk vs Lawler.

Color me not excited, or shocked.

It's almost like using Lawler is a standard card for WWE writers when they need a temporary diversion for a heel champion.

[newport king]

Homerun on the Bryan/Kane anger management segment.

[NickyL0885]

The Kane part made me laugh, I gotta admit.

[RingWraith]

Ryback is just fucking awful.

Agreed! He's terrible.

[epo]

Hopefully we now have a reason for Lawler to go on a long vacation.

[styckx]

How to bore the crowd to death in 1 easy step

1. Book Jerry Lawler in any match

[TripleSkeet]

Poor Punk. They finally give him the main event of Raw and he has to wrestle Lawler. This Cena feud has me not even a little excited. Standing there yelling "Get the cage up. Youre going too far." Ugh. Fucking awful.

[conman823]

I feel the whole HHH fake retirement, and how they have Cole and Matthews standing at attention, takes away from the honor the crowds give legit retirements, like Edges.

Also after a 15min bore festival of HHH we got an ambiguous meaningless open ended "answer".

Best part if the show was Kane telling his Kayfabe life story. I watched it twice.

[styckx]

Best part if the show was Kane telling his Kayfabe life story. I watched it twice.

Sadly this.. That made me lol for real.. I'm surprised most of that was even said being how PG friendly Vince is.. Setting people on fire, burying people alive etc and lol @ even mentioning Katie Vick.

[cougarjake13]

Ryback is just fucking awful.



yeh he almost stone colded him like Owen hart did

[cougarjake13]

Sadly this.. That made me lol for real.. I'm surprised most of that was even said being how PG friendly Vince is.. Setting people on fire, burying people alive etc and lol @ even mentioning Katie Vick.


I kept saying to myself no way they let him bring her up

and then he did


awesome

[Dirtbag]

yeh he almost stone colded him like Owen hart did
I saw Benoit/Sabu

[cougarjake13]

I saw Benoit/Sabu

don't remember that one

[MIKEYDAKEN]

don't remember that one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMBMnyayjQ&feature=player_detailpage

[conman823]

Never saw that footage.

Seems Benoit almost murdered 3 people in his lifetime

[cougarjake13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMBMnyayjQ&feature=player_detailpage

Damn that was fucked up


never got to see a lot of ecw back then so I never knew of that

[styckx]

Here is the embodiment of what's wrong with current WWE

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If this was the AE or even the Ruthless Agreesion era I would be semi excited about this gimmick as on the surface it really has that goofy AE theme around it.. But this is 2012 WWE and it's also election season.. This gimmick is going to be sucktastic, safe as to not hurt Lindas run, and perfectly timed for election season so carny Vince can score points with politicians.

[cougarjake13]

any idea who it'll be ?

was trying to see from clips but couldn't tell beyond the mullet

[styckx]

It's Derrick Bateman..


Exactly.. Some NXT guy..

[newport king]

I wonder what happened to Dean Ambrose (FCW). He had a good amount of heat for getting in Foley's face during mania. Maybe it wasn't scripted?
You can youtube the name, pretty talented. Maybe hes not freakishly muscular or tall enough for vince yet.

[TripleSkeet]

WHAT...THE...FUCK...WAS...THAT????

If the crowds dont completely shit on this guy they may as well bury wrestling, because its dead in my book. What the fuck kind of retarded shit was that??? That vignette was too corny for 80s era standards!!! It reeked of William Regals aborted "Mans man" gimmick.

Nice American flag fanny pack faggot. What year is this, 1991???

And who the fuck is coming up with the names in creative? The USA Guy"? THATS the best they could do??? My 4 year old daughter could come up with a better wrestling name in 3 minutes.

[TripleSkeet]

I just watched it again...because I couldnt understand why theyd use a video of the atom bomb being dropped as the symbol of a good guy. And Im already starting to rethink my position. I think they might be bringing him out as an unintentional heel. "He doesnt waste time thinking things over"? This could be a gimmick parody of red state hayseeds. If thats the case, it wont bother me as much, because it will make me laugh, and he would be used as comic relief.

But if he comes out as a good guy, Im right back to my original stance. And his name still sucks.

[newport king]

I assumed it was fake

[cougarjake13]

just like all the lame tag teams names starting with team

team 3d for example

[MIKEYDAKEN]

this irish prick is stammering under the pressure of a biased arena, my god he lost it quick

[newport king]

I miss AJ wearing skimpy outfits. Her prancing around the ring in a suit 3 sizes too big sucks.

[styckx]

The new RAW intro and logo sucks a metric shit ton.

[newport king]

Ive never been an Orton fan. Him and Ziggler just put on a PPV quality match. God forbid they let him beat him clean.

[newport king]

I cant wait till this mysterio/sin cara team splits, they feud and clumsy fucking sin cara ruins rey's career

[cougarjake13]

I cant wait till this mysterio/sin cara team splits, they feud and clumsy fucking sin cara ruins rey's career



they're both unneccesary

[MIKEYDAKEN]

are you kidding me? both champions go on before cena?

[cougarjake13]

I foresee this whole Kane- Daniel Bryan thing turning into a lame tag team

[cougarjake13]

are you kidding me? both champions go on before cena?

and how the fuck is a double main event match on at 9 ?


fig that cena del rio would be like 1030 with punk sheamus after

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I foresee this whole Kane- Daniel Bryan thing turning into a lame tag team
it's the new kane and rvd yay.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

check the deal bro! hahahaha

[newport king]

I do enjoy the comedy of the anger management scenes....I also am confused by Cole. Is he supposed to be a heel announcer? Then why is he explaining the history and shit of mexican masks. I wouldve loved for them to pair JR and Bobby Heenan at some point.

[cougarjake13]

either Rodriguez sold that really well or sheamus just paralyzed him

[cougarjake13]

gee I wonder which one the "universe" picks for Kane bryan

[newport king]

Ryback fuckin stinks...even his name sucks.

[Kevin]

Are they piping in Feed Me More chants?

I can't imagine the crowed saying it that loudly.

[NickyL0885]

Are they piping in Feed Me More chants?

I can't imagine the crowed saying it that loudly.

Explain piping in to me. As in, something over speakers? Paying people to chant?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Are they piping in Feed Me More chants?

I can't imagine the crowed saying it that loudly.

they have to be cause all i hear the crowd chanting is GOLDDDDDDBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG

[NickyL0885]

Hug! Hug! Hug!

[NickyL0885]

I know Kane is a good company guy, but wouldn't he have clout at this point to say "no" to some of this shit?

[Kevin]

Explain piping in to me. As in, something over speakers? Paying people to chant?

Put out fake chants through the speakers.

Like WCW did with Goldberg Chants.

[cougarjake13]

so gay

[cougarjake13]

and this is how the fill 3 hours

[Kevin]

Billy and Chuck was less gay than this.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Billy and Chuck was less gay than this.

but rico is still top of the queer meter.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

anyone following crankyvince on twitter? it's run by someone close to the top level of the company and it's funny as fuck and agood way to get news in a roundabout way.

[styckx]

I hate Miz but... As an announcer... I got to say he's doing a really good job..

[MIKEYDAKEN]

best driver in wrestling history

[newport king]

Better than rikishi

[styckx]

Better than rikishi

lol

[TripleSkeet]

Pretty boring Raw all around but...

- Miz is a pretty good color guy.
- The Kane / Bryan Anger Management bits are already overdone
- It looks like AJ is on her way out as GM....Thank God
- Cena / Del Rio was actually a pretty entertaining match
- LOVED Heyman popping up at the end. Even better considering how last week he was blasting the dirt sheets on Twitter saying how he loves Punk but it would never work with them together as Punk already has a mouthpiece and doesnt need him.

[styckx]

RAW wasn't actually awful this week.. Most of the storylines made sense and I didn't feel like WWE was actively trying to insult my intelligence the entire show and they actually surprised me with Heyman..

Also, having that fat useless POS who stopped giving a shit 10 years ago Jerry Lawler off commentary tonight was a breath of fresh air. That should be a permanent move.

[cougarjake13]

what wuld be the purpose of having hetman with him other then further cementing him as a heel

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The new HHH


http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/09/05/triple-h-hair-cut-ponytail-wm-03-480w.jpg

[cougarjake13]

guess Brock broke his comb too

[WRESTLINGFAN]

guess Brock broke his comb too

:lol::lol::lol:

[conman823]

Pretty boring Raw all around but...

- Miz is a pretty good color guy.
- The Kane / Bryan Anger Management bits are already overdone
- It looks like AJ is on her way out as GM....Thank God
- Cena / Del Rio was actually a pretty entertaining match
- LOVED Heyman popping up at the end. Even better considering how last week he was blasting the dirt sheets on Twitter saying how he loves Punk but it would never work with them together as Punk already has a mouthpiece and doesnt need him.

I disagree. I thought it was a pretty strong RAW all things considered. Based solely on the amount of FFWD I had to do.

Ziggler / Orton was a quality match
I can't get enough of the anger management skits. If you go by crowd reaction, they were all into it. "hug it out!" chant was great!
AJ Lee is going to vanish soon I see. There's no place for her after GM and Divas wise they are pushing Eve huge right now.
I'm ready for Punk to lose that belt. The reign is getting stale and maybe him chasing Cena instead of running from Cena will breath some life into their angle.
Hetman is always a plus!

[TripleSkeet]

Rumor has it these angles where AJ is losing control of the show and Booker T has lawsuits coming at him is going to lead to Vince coming back, firing them both and rplacing with one big name. Personally, Im thinking this is a way to bring back Flair.

[NickyL0885]

Rumor has it these angles where AJ is losing control of the show and Booker T has lawsuits coming at him is going to lead to Vince coming back, firing them both and rplacing with one big name. Personally, Im thinking this is a way to bring back Flair.

If you can't beat the man!, Woo!, then you can work for the man!

[brettmojo]

If you can't beat the man!, Woo!, then you can work for the man!
I'd rather it was Austin.

[newport king]

That would set up the Mania Austin/Punk match nicely

[newport king]

I realize the greatness of the Flair character but i was always a WWF guy, never considered him a WWF great

[cougarjake13]

I realize the greatness of the Flair character but i was always a WWF guy, never considered him a WWF great




yeh id agree bc he didnt come to wwf til early 90s stayed for a lil then went back to wcw and his second run in the E was more as a lackey to trips and evolution then as himself


his greatness of the character came prior to his first E run

[cougarjake13]

That would set up the Mania Austin/Punk match nicely



love it but i dont know if austin would do it




i see some dumb angle where heyman drops his lawsuit in return for gm for raw/sd

[TripleSkeet]

That would set up the Mania Austin/Punk match nicely

If Austin / Punk happens it wont be til Wrestlemania 30, not this one. Hes still rehabbing his knee and in no condition.

[Dirtbag]

yeh id agree bc he didnt come to wwf til early 90s stayed for a lil then went back to wcw and his second run in the E was more as a lackey to trips and evolution then as himself


his greatness of the character came prior to his first E run
Which shows just how great he was because Royal Rumble 92 and the program with Savage were amazing.

[conman823]

Which shows just how great he was because Royal Rumble 92 and the program with Savage were amazing.

It was a great angle especially since "the money" match was Hogan/Flair for that year.

I've been calling for Lawler to get that GM job for years.

Austin is too big a star in his own right, he would overshadow the workers too much.

[TjM]

.

!
AJ Lee is going to vanish soon I see. There's no place for her after GM and Divas wise they are pushing Eve huge right now.
!

WWE is currently running storylines where both RAW and SmackDown's General Managers are having major problems with their jobs. AJ Lee's angle is that she's unstable and incompetent, while Booker T is being sued by one of his announcers. There is speculation that the General Managers being unable to handle their brands will lead to Vince McMahon firing them both and bringing in a big name to both shows.

Wayyyyyyyyy late :(

[TjM]

Gimmie a Hell Yeah!

I can dream

[conman823]

Flairs no compete clause ends sometime this month, I'm gonna say it'll be him.

As long as he never wrestles, I'm fine with it.

[Kevin]

Flairs no compete clause ends sometime this month, I'm gonna say it'll be him.

As long as he never wrestles, I'm fine with it.

And never takes off his shirt.

[NickyL0885]

And never takes off his shirt.

You mean you don't want to see Flair stylin' and profilin'? WOO!

[cougarjake13]

Flairs no compete clause ends sometime this month, I'm gonna say it'll be him.

As long as he never wrestles, I'm fine with it.

And never takes off his shirt.




sadly


both will happen

[conman823]

2 weeks in and he'll be dropping elbows on articles of clothing and challenging Punk.

[Kevin]

I hope its Edge.

Its about time that he misses the game and I miss the crazy bastard.

[cougarjake13]

I hope its Edge.

Its about time that he misses the game and I miss the crazy bastard.



totally forgot about him

Id love to see that


and they'd have an instant fued with him Vicki and dolph
with edge all like been there done that sorta like with Jericho but the added Vicki element

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Edge is gone and happy to be so. He did interviews saying his injury was the best thing that ever happened to him so he could live a normal life and when he was leaving they tried to get him on a legends contract and he refused to sign it.

[Kevin]

Flair would be better used as Dolps manager.

[TripleSkeet]

Edge is gone and happy to be so. He did interviews saying his injury was the best thing that ever happened to him so he could live a normal life and when he was leaving they tried to get him on a legends contract and he refused to sign it.

Hes actually doing an photo op / autograph signing in Philly next month.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Hes actually doing an photo op / autograph signing in Philly next month.

is it for wwe or just himself? i hope he signed so they keep him in the games.

[NickyL0885]

Great, I can already tell the "twitter" poll will turn out to be Punk vs Lawler. Blaaaaaaaaaaah. :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[NickyL0885]

Cue Jewish groups being upset in 3, 2, 1.........

[cougarjake13]

Great, I can already tell the "twitter" poll will turn out to be Punk vs Lawler. Blaaaaaaaaaaah. :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:


prolly with cena or hart as ref

[NickyL0885]

Wow! I am shocked.

[NickyL0885]

I take it back! I am not shocked! Jerry was involved either way!

[styckx]

This is the dumbest RAW ever

[newport king]

Piss poor commercial placement

[Kevin]

Can we please end this Vickey nonsense.

She is so fucking stale.

Its time to have Dolph be by himself.

[styckx]

They called the Cena/Rock match the "biggest match in Wrestlemania history"

Fucking... Wow...

[styckx]

Something happened to Lawler during that match and WWE is failing to acknowledge it.

[styckx]

Arda Ocal @arda_ocal
He is being carried away by personnel to the backstage area. He appeared unconscious as he was being carried.

Looks like Lawler collapsed.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Looks like Lawler collapsed.

maybe we get a better announce team then.

[styckx]

Fuck.. CPR = Not fucking good

[NickyL0885]

Fuck.. CPR = Not fucking good

Scary! Cole was tearing up. He even said it's not part of the show. I hope he is OK!

[Kevin]

Scary! Cole was tearing up. He even said it's not part of the show. I hope he is OK!

Just by the way saemus came out. I think this is bullshit,

He would be more serious.

[NickyL0885]

Just by the way saemus came out. I think this is bullshit,

He would be more serious.

Orrrrrrrr they were told to go out and give the match the crowd was promised and had to put on their game face.

[styckx]

Just by the way saemus came out. I think this is bullshit,

He would be more serious.

It's all over twitter from peoples live at the show

Tony Marinaro @TonyMarinaro
I'm 3rd row ringside. About 25 ft from Jerry The King Lawler. He grabbed his arm & collapsed. Security carried him away. His face was blue.

[NickyL0885]

Cole has not said a word since coming back from break. It's essentially a silent match right now.

[newport king]

Watching on dvr, u can hear him trying to breathe thru it. Scary shit.

[NickyL0885]

Watching on dvr, u can hear him trying to breathe thru it. Scary shit.

If he dies, do they just continue the show? I mean.....how could they just go on?

[cougarjake13]

If he dies, do they just continue the show? I mean.....how could they just go on?



is almost over

it's kinda like disney

[styckx]

If he dies, do they just continue the show? I mean.....how could they just go on?

Owen dropped out of the sky and his carcass lay dead in the ring for a good 30 minutes and they still continued the show..

[NickyL0885]

Owen dropped out of the sky and his carcass lay dead in the ring for a good 30 minutes and they still continued the show..

True. But I'd imagine they'd announce it before going off air. Maybe Vince would come out. Idk. But the whole silence thing is weird.

[Kevin]

Is it wrong to say that this is the best commentary the WWE has had in years?

[epo]

Is it wrong to say that this is the best commentary the WWE has had in years?

Probably.

[styckx]

This is going to be the most awkward interview ever if they even have the balls to go through with it.

[cougarjake13]

well if it's true he's ok and breathing on his own like cole said then the interview will be fine

if he really died and they're waiting til shows over to announce then that's fuxked up

[newport king]

Is it wrong to say that this is the best commentary the WWE has had in years?



Yes. The Miz was great last week.

[conman823]

Lawler one of my all time favorites.

I really am hoping that whatever happened to him, he is able to make a full recovery.

That being said, if your gonna continue the show and Cole was too shaken up to finish (understandably) then get him outta there and get Striker or Matthews out there.

[brettmojo]

Lawler one of my all time favorites.

I really am hoping that whatever happened to him, he is able to make a full recovery.

That being said, if your gonna continue the show and Cole was too shaken up to finish (understandably) then get him outta there and get Striker or Matthews out there.
I guess they decided to do no commentary as a tribute to King.

[Kevin]

Its a pretty sad state of affairs when someone has to say"this is not a bit" about someone having a heart attack.

Lawler was clinicly dead for 20 minutes. Thats just crazy.

[newport king]

Fez just said he thinks this is a work

[TripleSkeet]

Its a pretty sad state of affairs when someone has to say"this is not a bit" about someone having a heart attack.

Lawler was clinicly dead for 20 minutes. Thats just crazy.

Well it makes sense when youre basically doing a live fictional dramatic TV show. I mean how else would people know its really happening?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Fez just said he thinks this is a work

fez probably thinks they are doing it to mock his heart problems.

[MagillaGorillaz]

What would have been great would be to put #Lawler dead in those twitter trends graphics they put on Raw now

[conman823]

There are some things they won't "work", it's a business where a tragic event could happen any minute. That type of "shock jock" writing is Vince Russo BS.

If this is a work, and it most certainly is not, I will never watch WWE again.

[conman823]

Speaking of the twitter graphics, the worst thing after Lawler went down was how they showed the #Raw wall of Twitter comments.

Can you stop with the Twitter for fucking one hour? God fucking damn I hate it!

[NickyL0885]

I can see Vince doing this: The ratings for RAW go up due to word of mouth about Lawler. So, Vince works in a storyline in which someone gets a heart attack.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I can see Vince doing this: The ratings for RAW go up due to word of mouth about Lawler. So, Vince works in a storyline in which someone gets a heart attack.

it worked in wcw when bischoff did it with flair

[Kevin]

I can see Vince doing this: The ratings for RAW go up due to word of mouth about Lawler. So, Vince works in a storyline in which someone gets a heart attack.

I just feel Cole was hamming it up during those updates.

I just have a funny feeling about this.

I hope not because I would be done with a thing I have watched since I was 4.

[Sue_Bender]

it worked in wcw when bischoff did it with flair

He had a heart attack.You people are fucking creeps.

[Sue_Bender]

I just feel Cole was hamming it up during those updates.

I just have a funny feeling about this.

I hope not because I would be done with a thing I have watched since I was 4.

It's legit. Wait a week and see what Jerry Lawler does in reaction. I bet NOTHING.

[TripleSkeet]

Watched it tonight on DVR. Definitely legit. A syrefire sign, they keep the cameras off. During the tag match you hear what sounds like Lawler start snoring. Then people all over the arena just ignore the match and start standing up and pointing to the announce tabel. The whole time this is going on they keep the camera in the ring and Cole tries to kind of call the match. At one point you can see him through the ropes bending over and trying to talk to Lawler as hes keeling over.

This is wrestling. If theres one thing wrestling doesnt do, its subtlety.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, it was funny seeing WWE try to get Cena over as a babyface any way they can. Theyve got Punk come out and run down Hart at the beginning to set up cheers for Cena at the end and what did they get? As hes standing there with Bret the whole building is chanting "YOU CANT WRESTLE". LMAO I do have to say both Punk and Cena cut really good promos at the end though.

[NickyL0885]

Also, it was funny seeing WWE try to get Cena over as a babyface any way they can. Theyve got Punk come out and run down Hart at the beginning to set up cheers for Cena at the end and what did they get? As hes standing there with Bret the whole building is chanting "YOU CANT WRESTLE". LMAO I do have to say both Punk and Cena cut really good promos at the end though.

The promos were good. Punk looked like a insecure child at the end, clutching his title.

[Kevin]

The promos were good. Punk looked like a insecure child at the end, clutching his title.


The problem is as soon as Rock announced he was wresting for the title we all knew punk was keeping it until. RR. This entire fued became a sham.

[conman823]

Plenty of time between now and RR for some title switching.

[newport king]

Im convinced theyre putting the strap on The Rock, would they really have Cena drop it to him?

[cougarjake13]

Im convinced theyre putting the strap on The Rock, would they really have Cena drop it to him?


no but they culd have cena take it for a month or so and next ppv punk gets it back in time to face rock

[TripleSkeet]

Im convinced theyre putting the strap on The Rock, would they really have Cena drop it to him?

Im hoping they realize people would much rather see Rock vs Punk at Mania rather than another Cena Rock rematch. I dont care who they have drop the title to The Rock, I just hope hes fighting Punk at Mania. Its bad enough another main event is going to be a rematch of Lesnar / HHH. Maybe they can somehow throw Cena into a feud with Taker for Mania.

[NickyL0885]

Im hoping they realize people would much rather see Rock vs Punk at Mania rather than another Cena Rock rematch. I dont care who they have drop the title to The Rock, I just hope hes fighting Punk at Mania. Its bad enough another main event is going to be a rematch of Lesnar / HHH. Maybe they can somehow throw Cena into a feud with Taker for Mania.

I see Punk dropping it to Rock at Royal Rumble, then Rock dropping it to Cena at Mania.

[hanso]

JR is pretty good to hold his face like that for so long and talk funny sometimes.

[conman823]

They're selling the "Once of a lifetime Rock vs Cena" Blue Rays now.

They will be done getting blood from the stone on that just in time to announce, Rock vs Cena Twice in a lifetime at RR.

I see what you did there Vince.....

[styckx]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/250624_10152099221740576_1294618279_n.jpg

[MagillaGorillaz]

Shouldn't he have scars? Didn't they perform heart surgery? This is a work.

[Kevin]

Shouldn't he have scars? Didn't they perform heart surgery? This is a work.

They sometimes go through the groin with heart procedures.

[styckx]

They don't rip open your sternum with minimally invasive heart surgery. Usually through the groin.

Edit: I see Kev beat me to it

[conman823]

He had a stent and a balloon put in, both are usually done through the groin.

Not a bad pic for a guy who would most likely have been dead today had he not had the attack at RAW.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20120915/07e381_091312cena02.jpg
check it out finally a challenger cena can't beat.

[Dirtbag]

Rumor is JBL will be replacing Lawler on Raw. Fuckin' awesome if true.

[cougarjake13]

Rumor is JBL will be replacing Lawler on Raw. Fuckin' awesome if true.



i wouldnt mind that at all but i see him more as a heel announcer but cole already does that but im sure he can pull it off

[cougarjake13]

what id love to happen is once lawler is healthy enough to return JBL becomes raws new gm

[Kevin]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/270707_189923921142535_1545507696_n.jpg

Should a guy that just had a life threatening heart attack be eating a big ass steak and fried shrimp?

I guess it all makes it ok with a diet coke...

[cougarjake13]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/270707_189923921142535_1545507696_n.jpg

Should a guy that just had a life threatening heart attack be eating a big ass steak and fried shrimp?

I guess it all makes it ok with a diet coke...



and the salad


all about balance

[Kevin]

Besides Kane and Bryant, I am enjoying JBL more than the ppv.

He has had some great one liners.

[cougarjake13]

Besides Kane and Bryant, I am enjoying JBL more than the ppv.

He has had some great one liners.

o I guess that's on


any upsets yet ?

[Kevin]

You want a link PM me

[styckx]

Ziggler just made Orton not boring.. That match ruled.. Ziggler losing is bullshit though.

[Kevin]

Ziggler just made Orton not boring.. That match ruled.. Ziggler losing is bullshit though.

Yea, I don't get why they put garbage over him.

[styckx]

JBL is incredible on commentary as usual and such a breath of fresh air. Even Cole is really enjoyable tonight.

I'm convinced Vince died though. No twitter plugs, no tout plugs, references to wrestlers who don't work for WWE anymore, crowd chants not having noised piped to block them out, JBL acknowledged the audience enjoying a wrestling match and both men just calling matches.

[Kevin]

Im going to disneyland.. HA

[cougarjake13]

You want a link PM me



thanks

[styckx]

And WWE once again misses another opportunity. Ziggler should have cashed in.

[Kevin]

Yankee pinstripe trunks and boots awesome.

[Kevin]

So predictable. You knew when Cena kicked out of the GTS, Punk was kicking out of the AA.

[cougarjake13]

And WWE once again misses another opportunity. Ziggler should have cashed in.



at this point I have no idea what they're waiting for
any longer and itll just be another jobber transitional championship for ziggler

[styckx]

Sucks Cena won but that match was fan-fucking-tastic.

Actually.. This whole PPV was remarkably good.

[styckx]

lol @ the Russo swerve

[cougarjake13]

lol @ the Russo swerve



which was ?

[Kevin]

which was ?

Both guys shoulders were down. a draw and punk retains.

[styckx]

which was ?

Cena won, paraded around a bit with the belt, then the ref called the match a draw because both mens shoulders were down for the count of 3. Handed the belt back to Punk who then hit Cena with it.. Cue Cult Of Personality and end of the PPV.

[cougarjake13]

Ahh


kev tried to get that link to work but ads kept poppIng up even with blocker off
no worries thanks for the try

[TripleSkeet]

Im kind of not happy Cena didnt win. Every PPV without him leaving as champ means more chance of Cena vs Rock 2 at Mania and I so dont want that.

Also, I get the whole pink for breast cancer thing, the ring rope is cool, little things like maybe the wristbands are ok, but a pink hat with the black and pink RISE ABOVE CANCER shirt? Im sorry....fucking gay. Perfect for Cenas current gimmick.

[Kevin]

Im kind of not happy Cena didnt win. Every PPV without him leaving as champ means more chance of Cena vs Rock 2 at Mania and I so dont want that.

Also, I get the whole pink for breast cancer thing, the ring rope is cool, little things like maybe the wristbands are ok, but a pink hat with the black and pink RISE ABOVE CANCER shirt? Im sorry....fucking gay. Perfect for Cenas current gimmick.

Now if he was black, you would have totally hated it.

Maybe if it was Cena's black twin.

[TripleSkeet]

Now if he was black, you would have totally hated it.

Maybe if it was Cena's black twin.

Darren Young?

[Kevin]

Darren Young?

Yea, him.

[newport king]

JR tonight to fill in for Lawler

[styckx]

JR tonight to fill in for Lawler

JR, JBL and Cole on commentary.. That's going to be epic

[newport king]

Its my opinion Rey may have the best entrance/theme

[newport king]

As a fan, why do i give a fuck about layla? She came in, won the title in 5 minutes, and shes not even hot.

[styckx]

Seriously. FUCK WWE. The guy was literally dead on air and a week later they're cashing in on it.

http://shop.wwe.com/Jerry-Lawler-Long-Live-the-King-Authentic-Men%27s-T-Shirt/W04560,default,pd.html?dwvar_W04560_color=black&start=1&cgid=superstar-alumni-jerrylawler

http://i.imgur.com/UJ4fu.png

[NickyL0885]

Seriously. FUCK WWE. The guy was literally dead on air and a week later they're cashing in on it.

http://shop.wwe.com/Jerry-Lawler-Long-Live-the-King-Authentic-Men%27s-T-Shirt/W04560,default,pd.html?dwvar_W04560_color=black&start=1&cgid=superstar-alumni-jerrylawler

http://i.imgur.com/UJ4fu.png

Never let a potential death get in the way of making money!

[TripleSkeet]

Well if it gets him some merch coin more power to him. What was the last t-shirt he got a kickback from? Puppies?

[cougarjake13]

either the ref just fucked up or they're playing off the nfl ref with an angle

[conman823]

Never saw that ref before tonight. Still it just furthered the "CM Punk is a annoying heel" angle. I mean fuck, he isn't even the cool pipe bomb heel he was 11 months ago, he's almost Miz like in his level of obnoxiousness.

Fuck WWE for making dislike a Punk/Heyman combo.

[cougarjake13]

and yet they've let him hold the strap for almoat a year

[TripleSkeet]

I like Punk as a heel. Hes really going to any level he can to get heat. I didnt mind how he was acting after that match, it was a good act of frustration over a shit call. I definitely agree they seem to playing it up like the shitty NFL refereeing.

Also, I know they were chanting boring during the Mizs interview segment, but I thought he was great. The whole asking questions then pulling the mic back when they go to answer was a classic Piper move.

Oh and how much more over does Ziggler have to get before they make him a main eventer? This shit is ridiculous.

[conman823]

and yet they've let him hold the strap for almoat a year

I didn't expect that either. I was positive the belt was going to go to Cena at NOC and didn't understand why it didn't until:

WWE reported that Cena had elbow surgery Tuesday to remove bone spurs and may be out of action for 4 weeks.

NOW the stupid finish makes sense, almost.

[cougarjake13]

him having surgery doesnt explain it to me

[conman823]

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they are letting him have a long run and I not a Punk hater at all, it's just this whole heel turn doesn't jive with me.

Also without the title changing hands at NOC why will anyone, except Cena fans, want to see Cena/Punk in a HIC match? The belt should be on Cena right now and the angles end should have been the HIC match.

Either way they will keep booking shit PPVS that will save me hundreds.

[newport king]

This whole heel turn reminds me of Austin trying to be a heel. Hes an anti-hero. Not a heel. It doesnt work.

[TripleSkeet]

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they are letting him have a long run and I not a Punk hater at all, it's just this whole heel turn doesn't jive with me.

Also without the title changing hands at NOC why will anyone, except Cena fans, want to see Cena/Punk in a HIC match? The belt should be on Cena right now and the angles end should have been the HIC match.

Either way they will keep booking shit PPVS that will save me hundreds.

Well considering Cena is out 6 weeks, I wonder if they are gonna pull another face for Punk to feud with or just have Cena showing up every week to just cut promos.

[styckx]

Oh and how much more over does Ziggler have to get before they make him a main eventer? This shit is ridiculous.

Sad isn't it? And it's so awkward too with Vickie coming out.. She gets boo'ed to heck introducing him, then 5 minutes later the crowd is chanting his name and sitting on the edge of their seats hoping he beats Orton... Bitch has got to go.

[conman823]

Well considering Cena is out 6 weeks, I wonder if they are gonna pull another face for Punk to feud with or just have Cena showing up every week to just cut promos.

Can they ever get Taker involved here? You know the guys getting a fuck load of money for basically 2-3 spots a year.

Punk vs Taker HIC I would pay for.

Book it!

Oh and Skeet, get off the lords of pain boards those guys are idiots on there. This is the only place I post about wrestling cause I know were all adults and can discuss it civilly

[cougarjake13]

what the hell happened to big show ?

he was way involved in main event picture with punk n cena and like kaiser soze poof he's gone


what I miss ?

[Kevin]

what the hell happened to big show ?

he was way involved in main event picture with punk n cena and like kaiser soze poof he's gone


what I miss ?

He sucks.

[TripleSkeet]

Sad isn't it? And it's so awkward too with Vickie coming out.. She gets boo'ed to heck introducing him, then 5 minutes later the crowd is chanting his name and sitting on the edge of their seats hoping he beats Orton... Bitch has got to go.

Im hoping they soon have him cash in the MITB, win the tile, and then dump Vicki rather than turn him face. You know the guy is over when they chanting ZIGGLER over and over during a match against Santino.

[TripleSkeet]

Can they ever get Taker involved here? You know the guys getting a fuck load of money for basically 2-3 spots a year.

Punk vs Taker HIC I would pay for.

Book it!

Oh and Skeet, get off the lords of pain boards those guys are idiots on there. This is the only place I post about wrestling cause I know were all adults and can discuss it civilly

Taker is pretty much Mania only at this point.

And I cant, those guys are way too easy to fuck with. I think styckx might be on there too, unless its someone else with his name.

[styckx]

Taker is pretty much Mania only at this point.

And I cant, those guys are way too easy to fuck with. I think styckx might be on there too, unless its someone else with his name.

Nope that's me in the comments section. I don't know how I ended up with 105 reputation points, I guess I just pick my comments carefully. A majority of those people are kayfabe loving 12 year olds who thumb down everything that doesn't tow the WWE company line. The way I usually read the comments section is to find the people with the most thumbs down votes. 95% of the time they are the ones with the best opinions.

[TjM]

what the hell happened to big show ?

he was way involved in main event picture with punk n cena and like kaiser soze poof he's gone


what I miss ?

HE requested time off but is cutting vaction short and returning due to the Cena injury

[cougarjake13]

He sucks.



I know that but I. don't remember how they explained how he's not on tv

injury?

[conman823]

I know that but I. don't remember how they explained how he's not on tv

injury?

He fuckin sucks and nobody missed him. Truth > Kayfabe

[newport king]

Mark Henry played that role way better and was much more believable.

[cougarjake13]

Mark Henry played that role way better and was much more believable.



yeh and he's been Mia too

[MIKEYDAKEN]

yeh and he's been Mia too

he had major groin surgery and has been rehabbing other minor injuries.

[cougarjake13]

not that it's a big deal but sometimes I go weeks or months and don't realize they're gone

[conman823]

Does it really matter whose out? Do you feel that the absence of Cena or Shamus would have that much effect on the ratings and show value?

I don't think Cena works through these injuries and comes back early out of his love of wrestling, I think he does it out if fear if losing his spot.

[Kevin]

Does it really matter whose out? Do you feel that the absence of Cena or Shamus would have that much effect on the ratings and show value?

I don't think Cena works through these injuries and comes back early out of his love of wrestling, I think he does it out if fear if losing his spot.

How?

Who the fuck is gunna take the spot?

Name me 1 fucking face that has the potential to.

That is the problem with them signing these old guys to big contracts and having them only show up 5 times a year in big events.

You can't build anyone up because big stars are made in big stages.

The only guy that could have taken his spot was punk.

And they fucked the dog on that one, with HHH sticking his big nose in it.

Turn Dolph face? I dont think that will happen.

Plus Punk, Rock and Cena,Rock are set in stone.

Cena has NOTHING to worry about.

[conman823]

The absence of Cena would force them into "creating " a new Superstar. There was a time when Hogans departure was considered devastating yet they survived and made new stars.

They are all over the place with developmental BS. Hungry guys are being held down and with the absence of any real midcard, how can you develope?

Cena like many before him, can be replaced. WWE is bigger then any one Superstar.

[TripleSkeet]

How?

Who the fuck is gunna take the spot?

Name me 1 fucking face that has the potential to.

That is the problem with them signing these old guys to big contracts and having them only show up 5 times a year in big events.

You can't build anyone up because big stars are made in big stages.

The only guy that could have taken his spot was punk.

And they fucked the dog on that one, with HHH sticking his big nose in it.

Turn Dolph face? I dont think that will happen.

Plus Punk, Rock and Cena,Rock are set in stone.

Cena has NOTHING to worry about.

They could easily turn Dolph face. Or Bryan. Theyve got mid-card guys ready to wrestle in the main event picture. They just dont use them. Or they use them as bad guys to feed to Cena.

The WWEs ratings are dropping every week. Would losing Cena hurt? Sure. But they can get along fine. Plus if theyd take him off TV for 6 months when he came back he wouldnt be booed out of the building every week. Plus maybe it would force them to bring up the mid-carders and give them main event pushes, and make room for new mid-carders.

[Kevin]

They could easily turn Dolph face. Or Bryan. Theyve got mid-card guys ready to wrestle in the main event picture. They just dont use them. Or they use them as bad guys to feed to Cena.

The WWEs ratings are dropping every week. Would losing Cena hurt? Sure. But they can get along fine. Plus if theyd take him off TV for 6 months when he came back he wouldnt be booed out of the building every week. Plus maybe it would force them to bring up the mid-carders and give them main event pushes, and make room for new mid-carders.

The issue is you cant build anyone with this less than PG shit.

The reason punk was so popular was because he said shit.

Austin Rock and others could do shit you cant do now.

Its much harder to build someone up now.

[conman823]

Its not harder to build people up, they are just playing it safe. Cena and those top tier guys are devout company men who have no issue understanding and delivering what Vince wants.

Giving someone else the prime spotlight could cause him trouble in PG land, and darn it we ain't having that 6 weeks before Lindas election!

[TripleSkeet]

I dont even think its that. Being PG isnt stopping them from making stars, it just makes the angles stupid and the whole product shitty. But they could still push guys and make them compete in the main event.

They just dont trust anyone but Cena. Even over Punk. It really is Hogan all over again. They wheel his stale ass out there for main event after main event, even if he doesnt have the title. Vince refuses to believe the crowd is tired of his schtick. I wonder what it is he thinks hes hearing when 18000 people chant "YOU CANT WRESTLE" and "CENA SUCKS".

[styckx]

How WWE managed to make an angle involving Heyman and Punk completely and utterly boring and lame as shit is beyond me but.. They found a way to do it. Holy shit that entire opening was fucking awful

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Damn this is a good match

[walking joint]

Dolph is the man.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Did someone just try to save miz?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

That was the best vignette they have done in at least 10 years.

[Kevin]

That was the best vignette they have done in at least 10 years.

So fucking awesome.

These two are fucking GOLD.

[cougarjake13]

Did someone just try to save miz?



pretty sure it was a fan who jumped in cause announcers didn't even mention it

[cougarjake13]

So fucking awesome.

These two are fucking GOLD.



I'm loving the tag team

hope they don't come up with a stupid name

[cougarjake13]

o well no luck on that

[MIKEYDAKEN]

It's better then Cody and Damien's team name

[cougarjake13]

fuck I don't even wanna know do I ?

[NickyL0885]

fuck I don't even wanna know do I ?

Team Rhodescholars.

[cougarjake13]

when the fuck did every name have to start with team, begin ?

seems like around that twilight bullshit

[RingWraith]

when the fuck did every name have to start with team, begin ?

seems like around that twilight bullshit

There was "Team Angle" many years ago. That was well before Twilight.

[styckx]

What the fuck...

[styckx]

That RAW was... ..... Shit.. And lol @ Ryback getting pushed into main event status.

[NickyL0885]

That RAW was... ..... Shit.. And lol @ Ryback getting pushed into main event status.

And like Ryback, I want to be fed more. I think I'll make a food run. Anyone want anything? I am thinking Taco Bell.

[Kevin]

That RAW was... ..... Shit.. And lol @ Ryback getting pushed into main event status.

The crowed had no fucking reaction..

Like I said...

As soon as the rock said he was fighting for the belt at RR. Everyone knew Punk was keeping it til then...

Im not sure who else he can fight for 3 more months and keep the belt...