Monday Night RAW Discussion

[MIKEYDAKEN]

so far dx to start no chyna

but at least hornswoggle was missing too.

[newport king]

Id love for Austin to show up and no reason stunner Punk costing him the title and setting up a Sone Cold/Punk ppv

[newport king]

Mae Young's son ruled

[cougarjake13]

Mae Young's son ruled



x2

[cougarjake13]

Id love for Austin to show up and no reason stunner Punk costing him the title and setting up a Sone Cold/Punk ppv



I don't see cena winning that way but I thought maybe rock wuld cost him match

[cougarjake13]

Bryan gonna get aj committed?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

alot of these guys are in good shape still and xpac being creepy was good cause it wasn't acting on either part.

[cougarjake13]

I guess this is the shit u get when non wrestling people write raw

[cougarjake13]

alot of these guys are in good shape still and xpac being creepy was good cause it wasn't acting on either part.



was her reaction bc He has hep ? cause that's what it seemed like

[newport king]

Facepalm

[cougarjake13]

no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no

[styckx]

I tried watching I really did but holy shit I can't...

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/727-computer-reaction-face-gun-shoot-head-suicide-an-hero.png

[Kevin]

Ok this is the first Vintage Rock I have seen in a long time.

This was not the Rock that showed up with Cena.

A little less reaction to his RR announcement than I thought.

[cougarjake13]

so that kinda takes the steam out cena winning


I don't see that whole promo going down and then cena has belt

so maybe cena wins but punk gets it back before rumble

[styckx]

Ok this is the first Vintage Rock I have seen in a long time.

This was not the Rock that showed up with Cena.

A little less reaction to his RR announcement than I thought.

Because he's barely on WWE as it is, walks in, buries talent and books himself in a match 6 months away..

Same old dumb shit.. WWE never learns.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Ok this is the first Vintage Rock I have seen in a long time.

This was not the Rock that showed up with Cena.

A little less reaction to his RR announcement than I thought.

cause it's just setting up rock cena 2 at mainia. they should just hand him the belt and tell him to keep it safe.

[cougarjake13]

Because he's barely on WWE as it is, walks in, buries talent and books himself in a match 6 months away..

Same old dumb shit.. WWE never learns.

and unless he has a month or two of not filming I don't see him winning

[Kevin]

Because he's barely on WWE as it is, walks in, buries talent and books himself in a match 6 months away..

Same old dumb shit.. WWE never learns.

He does not do that. The WWE does.

If someone hands you a shitload of money to do it, you would do the same.

[newport king]

Ok after that why are our options of who we want the rock to face #rockpunk #rockcena or #rockSHOW? AS IN BIGSHOW? When the fuck was he in the discussion?

[Kevin]

Ok after that why are our options of who we want the rock to face #rockpunk #rockcena or #rockSHOW? AS IN BIGSHOW? When the fuck was he in the discussion?

I'd much rather see Dolph than any of those.

But It will be Rock Cena..

So I guess Cena is losing tonight and Winning the RR.

[Kevin]

I guess the Miz is out the shit house.

[Kevin]

Really?

From a fucking Web cam?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Really?

From a fucking Web cam?

well he quit twitter

[styckx]

I guess the Miz is out the shit house.

More like: "Buy The Marine 3 on BlueRay staring WWE Intercontinental Champion The Miz"

[MIKEYDAKEN]

i smell a kidnaping angle. also steph is still hot.

[styckx]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrh9rybTfX1qbcq69.png

[MIKEYDAKEN]

brock's tooth got cracked kinda hope this devolves into a shoot fight

[newport king]

Never got excited about Lesnar during his first run. Thats about the time i stopped watching...still feel the same.

[styckx]

Seriously.. They had THREE MONTHS to think of how to develop that storyline. Over 90 straight days to write a credible storyline and we get... Stephanie McMahon cutting a shit promo.

[Kevin]

All Raw is doing by showing these past moments is showing how shitty Raw has gotten.

[Kevin]

Dizzamn

Lita still looks hot.

[cougarjake13]

Steph is hot


lita looks amazing as do her tits

[MIKEYDAKEN]

they couldn't get stone cold? and again lita looking good

[styckx]

I would do such rotten things to Lita...

[cougarjake13]

thought that was stone colds spot

maybe he'll show later

[cougarjake13]

I would do such rotten things to Lita...



I just did a few to myself with her on screen

[newport king]

I was hoping they wouldnt waste Austin on Heath Slater. Litas tits are holding up well. One of my RAW moments would have to be the live sex celebration in the ring when im pretty positive i saw nip

[styckx]

100,000,000 social media follower?

http://sketchler.com/images/riker.jpg

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I was hoping they wouldnt waste Austin on Heath Slater. Litas tits are holding up well. One of my RAW moments would have to be the live sex celebration in the ring when im pretty positive i saw nip

her whole tittie fell out.

[newport king]

Yeah. That shit was awesome.

[styckx]

We almost had a decent angle starting just for gramps to come out.

[newport king]

Considering how social media savvy they are trying to be, maybe if Takers pic wasnt all over twitter earlier, Coles reaction wouldve been believable.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Considering how social media savvy they are trying to be, maybe if Takers pic wasnt all over twitter earlier, Coles reaction wouldve been believable.

well old pussy head made his 2nd appearance of the year so bye till 2013.

[styckx]

Well.. That was... Something..

[MIKEYDAKEN]

those kids all suck i hope they get bullied till they are 45

[newport king]

We almost had a decent angle starting just for gramps to come out.


I agree a faction of castoffs would be kinda cool, but i cant hate on Taker. He's been in a few of my fav matches(vs foley hell in a cell, and last WM match) Come to think of it, Kane, as much as i want to hate on him, usually always puts on a decent match. I think sometimes they try to force him on us but overall pretty solid performer.

[cougarjake13]

100,000,000 social media follower?

http://sketchler.com/images/riker.jpg

not to mention how many are duplicates and triplicates of same people on different social media

[cougarjake13]

well like I thought unless they're gonna take this over 3 hours no way this match happens
my guess is big show gets involved
no title match
no bell rings

and that's why it's rock punk rock cena or rock show

[cougarjake13]

so much for that then

[MIKEYDAKEN]

punk heel turn?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

why does cena have a hard on?

[newport king]

Ugh...big show.

[Kevin]

Epo somewhere is jumping up and down.

[newport king]

Awesome

[newport king]

No Austin? Wow

[cougarjake13]

punk heel turn?



yep

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Awesome

he is so much better as a heel anyway

[epo]

This Cena thing is a great opportunity to turn Punk heel.

Good point epo.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

now HHH is in the back thinking how he can jump into this storyline too.

[styckx]

Forced heel turn that only ended up a almost turn.. Cole went right into Owen Hart just died voice meanwhile the crowd half giving a shit..

What a dog shit show.

[Kevin]

Forced heel turn that only ended up a almost turn.. Cole went right into Owen Hart just died voice meanwhile the crowd half giving a shit..

What a dog shit show.

Cole is supposed to be the Heel announcer, he should have been loving it.

[Kevin]

Good point epo.

I don't remember you saying that....

[styckx]

Cole is supposed to be the Heel announcer, he should have been loving it.

Cole is the worst.. He turns heel/face like 50 times throughout a broadcast now a days.. God I miss the days when Lawler gave a shit still and JR announced full time they were a great team. There will never be another team up like them or the Heenan and Gorilla combo.. Just the right time, place, and freedom to say as they wanted.. Now a days you could have the best commentating team on earth but you'd never know it because Vince screams in their ear the entire show telling them what to say and plug.

[RingWraith]

Cole is the worst.. He turns heel/face like 50 times throughout a broadcast now a days.. God I miss the days when Lawler gave a shit still and JR announced full time they were a great team. There will never be another team up like them or the Heenan and Gorilla combo.. Just the right time, place, and freedom to say as they wanted.. Now a days you could have the best commentating team on earth but you'd never know it because Vince screams in their ear the entire show telling them what to say and plug.

I HATE Cole!

[TripleSkeet]

Cole is the worst.. He turns heel/face like 50 times throughout a broadcast now a days.. God I miss the days when Lawler gave a shit still and JR announced full time they were a great team. There will never be another team up like them or the Heenan and Gorilla combo.. Just the right time, place, and freedom to say as they wanted.. Now a days you could have the best commentating team on earth but you'd never know it because Vince screams in their ear the entire show telling them what to say and plug.

Exactly. Im done blaming Cole and Lawler. The best commentator theyve got right now is Booker T because it honestly seems like nobody is telling him to say the shit he does.

[TripleSkeet]

My thoughts on Raw...

- The crowd sucked. Shouldve been iat the Garden, not in hayseed St. Louis.

- Austin was invited but couldnt show due to something hes filming.

- It was great seeing all of DX together. Knew Chyna wasnt gonna be there. Vince aint gonna put her on tv right before she puts out a wrestling themed gangbang porno.

- I really wish theyd get rid of that fucking WWE title belt. For a company so hellbent on merch sales I figured it would be time to put out a new one for all the kids to buy.

- The Rock ruled. Still better than anything the WWE has right now. Ill take him in a PPV once or twice a year over any of these other guys every week. Hes also monstrous. Those Hollywood steroids are the shit.

- Steph is hot as fuck. Lita too. Trish also.

- AJ as GM = Dogshit. No female deserves that much mic time on a wrestling show. Ever.

- Loved seeing the Slickster, but my favorite "surprise" appearance of the night.....Sean Mooney.

- Cant wait for this Dolph / Jericho feud to heat up.

- Heyman is just awesome. Doesnt excuse how they completely fucked up what shouldve been a pretty compelling storyline with Lesnar though. I really hope he doesnt lose to HHH at Summerslam. Its getting annoying how they keep making him look weak. He could legitimately crush most of the fucking roster.

- They dont use Santino enough.

- Charlie Sheen vs Bryan at Summerslam? FACEPALM

- I guess the point of that Bryan meeting with the orderlies is so down the line they can say he was gonna marry her then have her comitted???

- Gotta give creative credit. I bit on the main event swerve. First thought they were gonna have Cena lose cheap because of Show, which I hated. Then thought he was gonna win, which I hated more. Then thought just a DQ, which I still hated. But having The Rock get involved and Punk turn heel was great. Hes so much better that way and besides Ziggler, they dont have any good heels anyway.

- Tout is the gayest fucking thing since Fez.

[Kevin]

I don't know who AJ is fucking to get this much attention but it has to be someone high up.

Vince? HHH?

I do not see anything special in her that would warrant all of this.

[conman823]

The crowd was awful.

Overall, I thought the show was good. Call me a mark, but anytime I see Vince get a little teary eyed it gets me. I'm still a wrestling fan and our generation WAS RAW. I was proud for Vince tonight as a fan.

I'll get back to bashing it next week.

[brettmojo]

Trish, Lita and even Steph... SchaWING.

Even Steph is hotter than half the chicks on the roster.

The Rock owned the show, Punk turning heel was great.

Overall WWE just pointed out how shitty the show is now compared to 10-15 years ago.

[newport king]

Also love seeing vince get emotional. Can't believe Austin couldnt make it. Him and Edge wouldve been nice to see. Was HBK always such a cringe inducing goofball?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Also love seeing vince get emotional. Can't believe Austin couldnt make it. Him and Edge wouldve been nice to see. Was HBK always such a cringe inducing goofball?

not till he became born again and billy gunn looks like he could come back tomorrow and at the very least be a I.C. contender

[TripleSkeet]

The crowd was awful.

Overall, I thought the show was good. Call me a mark, but anytime I see Vince get a little teary eyed it gets me. I'm still a wrestling fan and our generation WAS RAW. I was proud for Vince tonight as a fan.

I'll get back to bashing it next week.

I agree on everything you said here.

Do you know how stupid you have to be, as a wrestling crowd, to not know when to chant?

Also, anyone that chants WHAT is a fucking douchebag. I give Slick credit, he rolled with it well. Its the one thing Austin brought to wrestling that I can never forgive him for.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, turns out Austin wasnt there because he had knee surgery 3 weeks ago and is still on crutches. Totally his call.

[Chimee]

Slick was the highlight of the night for me.

The biggest problem that I had with the Punk turn is that the crowd wasn't behind the turn, some booed, others just chanted. It's the price of having to turn an Internet favorite; half of the crowd would still cheer Benoit.

[newport king]

Mae Youngs son needs more tv time

[conman823]

The IWC needs to band together to get rid of the WHAT? chants.

[TripleSkeet]

Slick was the highlight of the night for me.

The biggest problem that I had with the Punk turn is that the crowd wasn't behind the turn, some booed, others just chanted. It's the price of having to turn an Internet favorite; half of the crowd would still cheer Benoit.

Kind of like the RIDIULOUSLY LOUD anti-Cena chants going against all the kids in the crowd? When they were going head to head and cheering every Punk shot while booing every Cena shot it was so obviously one sided.

Punk plays a better heel but he will get the cheers simply because hes better at his promos and what he does than Cena is. Its kind of funny they are turning him now, with this feud, because regardless of what he says or does, in arenas that arent filled with hillbillies he is gonna get the cheers and Cena is gonna get the boos. Its like the Austin / Hart feud all over again.

[cougarjake13]

Trish, Lita and even Steph... SchaWING.

Even Steph is hotter than half the chicks on the roster.

.


ran 3 batches last nite
one for each

hadn't had to do that since trish lita torrie days

[brettmojo]

Trish is so insanely hot as a brunette... Drool.

[cougarjake13]

Trish is so insanely hot as a brunette... Drool.



hot yes but I like her better as blonde

[Kevin]

ran 3 batches last nite
one for each

hadn't had to do that since trish lita torrie days

TMI.....

[brettmojo]

Lita looked like she'd been wrestling the whole time.

These other divas are an embarrassment.

[TripleSkeet]

Lita looked like she'd been wrestling the whole time.

These other divas are an embarrassment.

Her, Billy Gun and the APA look like they could come back tomorrow.

[Chimee]

Lita looked like she'd been wrestling the whole time.

These other divas are an embarrassment.

It's pretty telling when Lita hasn't wrestled in years and can still make the Twist of Fate look better than either of the Hardys ever could.

[styckx]

It's pretty telling when Lita hasn't wrestled in years and can still make the Twist of Fate look better than either of the Hardys ever could.


Lita and Trish were the perfect combination of Divas appealing to two totally different male demographics.. Trish has the promo cutting and barbi looks sex appeal covered while Lita had the pure in ring ability, unpredictable presence, and the other half of the sex appeal guys like covered (rough around the edges punk rock grrl look).

Trish lacked in the ring abilities and pure presence that lita had but made up for it by her acting and ability to cut a decent promo. Lita couldn't cut good promos or act but made up for it w/ her presence in the ring.

Now a days all they care about is if you can breath oxygen and look pretty. AJ was a break out star but holy fucking shit they are forcing her down our throats to levels Kelly Kelly only wishes and it's equally as annoying as Kelly Kelly is.

[Chimee]

The most cringe worthy botch was Tensai throwing Ziggler.

http://i.imgur.com/ChvmZ.gif

Apparently that wasn't a botch, Ziggler really wanted to do that spot.

[NickyL0885]

Get your popcorn ready.

F4Wonline.com reports that The Rock is scheduled to win the WWE Title at the 2013 Royal Rumble pay-per-view and then defend it against John Cena at WrestleMania 29.

Read more: http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2012/0725/554693/the-rock/#ixzz21hiHGyqc

[styckx]

Get your popcorn ready.

So unbelievably sad.. There are people on the roster killing themselves to even be in the same ring as someone wearing that belt and they are going to put it on The Rock.. :wallbash: WWE is awful.

[TripleSkeet]

Sounds good to me. Too bad hes gonna lose it to Cena this time around.

[conman823]

I have no problem with the Rock winning the title provided he actually WORKS from RR to WM. I mean every RAW every PPV in between.

If he wins the belt and then skips off till WM then it's complete and utter Bullshit.

[newport king]

There was a report Piper sexually harassed Kaitlyn. He didnt take the allegations well. Took to twitter to deny and challenge the dirt sheet writer. Pretty funny stuff from what i read

[cougarjake13]

Get your popcorn ready.



that pretty much seemed a given once rock announced bed be fighting for title at rumble


I guess he has no movies goin on during the time betw rumble and mania either that or he'll be mailing it as champ live via satellite which wuld be lame

[brettmojo]

Get your popcorn ready.
Enjoy the ride Punk... It's the beginning of the end.

[cougarjake13]

Enjoy the ride Punk... It's the beginning of the end.

I'm surprised they let him have it this long

[conman823]

Enjoy the ride Punk... It's the beginning of the end.

What does it matter? He never got to main event anything as champ. This storyline of him being second fiddle to everyone else is completely based in reality.

He should have left the belt laying on the mat between Rock and Cena. Grabbed a mic and told Vince to just give it to who he wants to.

That could have been pipe bomb 2012

[TripleSkeet]

I have no problem with the Rock winning the title provided he actually WORKS from RR to WM. I mean every RAW every PPV in between.

If he wins the belt and then skips off till WM then it's complete and utter Bullshit.

As big a Rock mark as I am, I agree with you. Cant be champ for 3 months while never showing up on TV. Fuck the house shows, but you gotta do TV.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, I cant wait to see how the WWE tries to do this. If this is actually the plan Wrestlemania could be a real site to behold. Giants Stadium. NY crowd. And they have Cena beat The Rock for the title? If they dont change his character at all from now til then it may go down as the biggest booing of a good guy Champion in the history of wrestling.

[conman823]

I will be there in person to boo.

[NickyL0885]

I will be there in person to boo.

Boo Boo Boo, You Know It!

:surrender:

[epo]

I have no problem with the Rock winning the title provided he actually WORKS from RR to WM. I mean every RAW every PPV in between.

If he wins the belt and then skips off till WM then it's complete and utter Bullshit.

So I'm guessing that they aren't enforcing the old rule that a champion must defend the belt every 30 days or they surrend the title?

[cougarjake13]

So I'm guessing that they aren't enforcing the old rule that a champion must defend the belt every 30 days or they surrend the title?


well have to see if he does win at rumble
maybe he'll satellite his promos and show up at a raw week before a ppv

[conman823]

I hope CM Punk breaks into the production truck and turns off the Rocks pre recorded "Reaction" to Punks attack on him. Then Punk cuts a promo saying "No more phoning it in, no more pretending you're BACK. If you have something to say to the WWE Champ Great One, then here's a list of all my upcoming shows. The Champ is HERE, not on a satellite and not running around Making Wishes and dressing in envious GREEN. From now on the WWE Champion is the main event or else I'll ruin EVERY main event for the next 1000 RAWs. The back seats EMPTY now, and I plan on leaving Rocky and Cena in it when I'm through. Now go cut to some fat turd dancing to a disco ball."

[Chimee]

I hope CM Punk breaks into the production truck and turns off the Rocks pre recorded "Reaction" to Punks attack on him. Then Punk cuts a promo saying "No more phoning it in, no more pretending you're BACK. If you have something to say to the WWE Champ Great One, then here's a list of all my upcoming shows. The Champ is HERE, not on a satellite and not running around Making Wishes and dressing in envious GREEN. From now on the WWE Champion is the main event or else I'll ruin EVERY main event for the next 1000 RAWs. The back seats EMPTY now, and I plan on leaving Rocky and Cena in it when I'm through. Now go cut to some fat turd dancing to a disco ball."

Too many people would cheer that.

[Kevin]

Unless he is beating up women and kids I do not think Punk can fully be a heel.

He cuts too good a promos for it.

And I don't think he can go back to the crazy straight edge society shit either.

[cougarjake13]

I hope CM Punk breaks into the production truck and turns off the Rocks pre recorded "Reaction" to Punks attack on him. Then Punk cuts a promo saying "No more phoning it in, no more pretending you're BACK. If you have something to say to the WWE Champ Great One, then here's a list of all my upcoming shows. The Champ is HERE, not on a satellite and not running around Making Wishes and dressing in envious GREEN. From now on the WWE Champion is the main event or else I'll ruin EVERY main event for the next 1000 RAWs. The back seats EMPTY now, and I plan on leaving Rocky and Cena in it when I'm through. Now go cut to some fat turd dancing to a disco ball."



only problem with that is if rocks the champ and mailing it in it'll be cena doing promos against him to set up his mania fued

well I guess maybe that first month where punk gets his rematch

[newport king]

Im just happy Ziggler wasnt the first to lose after cashing in

[TripleSkeet]

Unless he is beating up women and kids I do not think Punk can fully be a heel.

He cuts too good a promos for it.

And I don't think he can go back to the crazy straight edge society shit either.

What WWE has to realize is, most people dont wanna boo good heels. So just let them do their thing and if people cheer they cheer, if they boo they boo. To me it makes alot more sense to let someone treat the audience like shit and have them cheer then to have someone keep kissing their ass even though they boo him relentlessly.

[cougarjake13]

Im just happy Ziggler wasnt the first to lose after cashing in



he wouldn't have been

he'd been second to cena on Monday

[cougarjake13]

I want to eat the blonde girls meaty pussy sitting behind lawler

[styckx]

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[cougarjake13]

fuck tout

[NickyL0885]

I want to eat the blonde girls meaty pussy sitting behind lawler

Om nom nom

[newport king]

Hitting the FF on the dvr to get thru this shit. Cole apologized for AW's comments, so i had to rewing "Titus O'Neill is like Kobe Bryant in a Colorado hotel. He's unstoppable"

Wow.

[newport king]

Whats the appeal of Randy Orton? Personally i cant wait for him to violate the wellness program again....of Jericho and Christian, 2 guys they dont know how to turn faces, vs Miz and a guy nobody wants to hate...Bryan and Ziggler really are the only ones worth watching

[styckx]

3 hours and one entire storyline was developed .. Jesus Christ.. Daniel Brian got buried tonight.. Mental patient angle followed by being put in a forced feud with Kane without explanation. Unreal...

[MIKEYDAKEN]

3 hours and one entire storyline was developed .. Jesus Christ.. Daniel Brian got buried tonight.. Mental patient angle followed by being put in a forced feud with Kane without explanation. Unreal...

if this all leads up to sheen at summerslam bryan needs to quit. i wonder if kane saying he was the anger management consultant is a tie in to him and his shitty show?

[conman823]

Terrible. As was expected.

It seemed like EVERYONE was phoning it in. Lawler no sold CM Punks anger, I actually thought Lawler was going to yawn during it.

Randy Orton doesn't matter to my life neither does Big Slow.

I am fucking Sick and Tired of that fool Santino having that belt and LOSING every week. I get his whole "comedy" role but it does not translate into being a champion of any kind. At least if they put the US Title on Del Rio it would give the belt a much needed push and another element to the tired old Del Rio/Mysterio fued

[cougarjake13]

3 hours and one entire storyline was developed .. Jesus Christ.. Daniel Brian got buried tonight.. Mental patient angle followed by being put in a forced feud with Kane without explanation. Unreal...

well it's not outta no where as AJ was showing affections to Bryan punk and Kane so they culd just be continuing the fued from that

[cougarjake13]

if this all leads up to sheen at summerslam bryan needs to quit. i wonder if kane saying he was the anger management consultant is a tie in to him and his shitty show?



sheen already said him vs Bryan at summer slam last week so now it's just a matter of them doing it and the obvious choice is to have him in Kane's corner

[cougarjake13]

and I swear to god they added an hour of tv time and managed to reduce the amount of actual wrestling


and SD! is nothing more then a 2 hour raw rewind and social media bullshizz and maybe a match or 2

[Chimee]

I find it funny that the PG wrestling show featured a rape joke and Jerry Lawler saying that Sakamoto should change his name to Sum Ting Wong.

Also I've read that the captions during the main event had the word "rape" instead of "reign" on two separate occasions.

[brettmojo]

I liked how Punk started the show. Didn't like how he ended it. He came off as a whiny bitch doing play by play and it felt more suited for Bryan. I loved the Rock stuff. It was really good.

[Kevin]

I liked how Punk started the show. Didn't like how he ended it. He came off as a whiny bitch doing play by play and it felt more suited for Bryan. I loved the Rock stuff. It was really good.



Vince prob thought it was getting him too ove. and changed it up.

God he is a fucking idiot.

[conman823]

I thought the joke wasn't funny, not because it was a rape joke mind you, but because it was too dated.

If the whole situation makes them stop giving AW a live mic AND gets him off my TV for 30 days I'm all for it.

AJ doing this whole Steph Light act in a business suit needs to end fast.

RAW GM should be Lawler. He'd be perfect for it plus then Striker could take over as Heel Color guy and create a newer commentary team.

[cougarjake13]

I thought the joke wasn't funny, not because it was a rape joke mind you, but because it was too dated.

If the whole situation makes them stop giving AW a live mic AND gets him off my TV for 30 days I'm all for it.

AJ doing this whole Steph Light act in a business suit needs to end fast.

RAW GM should be Lawler. He'd be perfect for it plus then Striker could take over as Heel Color guy and create a newer commentary team.




but then u have 2 heel commentators

[RingWraith]

Vince prob thought it was getting him too ove. and changed it up.

God he is a fucking idiot.

I remember when Jericho was a heel years ago, on a Raw show in Toronto, he was so over with the Canadian crowd. So instead of going along with it, Jericho had to say something negative towards the crowd to stay a heel no matter what, it actually killed the crowd heat for the rest of the show.

[brettmojo]

Anyone know of an online resource to find the value on wrestling figures? I have a collection that I want to sell.

[CYYYFYYY]

Anyone know of an online resource to find the value on wrestling figures? I have a collection that I want to sell.

I usually look at what it is going for on e-bay to get an idea

[TripleSkeet]

Just got around to watching Raw. Punks talent is so wasted on this show.

His promos are great. I dont think he sounds whiny at all. I think someone in creative finally noticed people bitching how their WWE champion never main events the show instead having to play second fiddle to Cena every Raw and every PPV. And they are letting him run with that in his promos.

Raw itself was dogshit. I cant take this AJ shit anymore. I fast forward the minute her music hits. Enough already. If youve got to have a GM bring back the best you ever had in William Regal and be done with it.

Also, Cena really needs to work on his whispering. His spot calling was ridiculous during the main event. You hear him call for the bulldog clear as day.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Im the One Maaaan Bannnnd Baby...


love to hate Heath Slater.. too bad he is not 6 ft 9 340 lbs or he would be champ

[conman823]

They're so fickle with whose "getting a huge push" I wouldn't be shocked if in 4 weeks AJ is released from her contract.

It's a shame because without jamming her down our throats every week in a rush to force us to accept her as a Superstar she might have gotten over on her own and been a great character.

Again, there is no midcard Storylines to slow burn future stars. Its just "Oh Vince likes him/her this week...let's get 8 segments together every RAW and SD".

[brettmojo]

I usually look at what it is going for on e-bay to get an idea
I've been doing that for a couple weeks... But either they are small lots of common, not really remarkable figures or mixed with the new Mattel figures or old LJN figs. Mine are all Jakks Pacific. I've watched a few of the individual ones and seen what they go for but I really wanted to just sell the lot. In the end though I think it's too big of a collection to do that.

I found a site that lists every figure ever produced but they don't put a value on them.

[Kevin]

I tell you one thing. If the Rock mails it in like he did vs Cena, what Cena did to him as a fraction of what Punk would do to him.

[cougarjake13]

Im the One Maaaan Bannnnd Baby...


love to hate Heath Slater.. too bad he is not 6 ft 9 340 lbs or he would be champ



he'd be sheamus

[TripleSkeet]

I tell you one thing. If the Rock mails it in like he did vs Cena, what Cena did to him as a fraction of what Punk would do to him.

I have a feeling its gonna be more of the same shit Cena said. The whole "you left WWE", "Youre not a wrestler, youre an actor", and "you dont deserve to be fighting for the title". He already started by calling him a delusional movie star.

It would work except that "delusional movie star" has sold out more arenas, headlined more Wrestlemanias, and draws more fans than Punk, Cena, and the rest of the roster combined.

At least with Punk Im guessing they wont have to have Rock purposely tank promos like writing shit on his wrist to give Punk the upper hand like they did when he feuded with Cena.

[Kevin]

I have a feeling its gonna be more of the same shit Cena said. The whole "you left WWE", "Youre not a wrestler, youre an actor", and "you dont deserve to be fighting for the title". He already started by calling him a delusional movie star.

It would work except that "delusional movie star" has sold out more arenas, headlined more Wrestlemanias, and draws more fans than Punk, Cena, and the rest of the roster combined.

At least with Punk Im guessing they wont have to have Rock purposely tank promos like writing shit on his wrist to give Punk the upper hand like they did when he feuded with Cena.

I disagree...

When the Rock was at his peak there was a bunch of people, people wanted to see. And it would have been sold out with or without the Rock.

2nd. I am not so sure he has headlined more WM than Cena has, if he has, its not that far more.

As for purposely tanking, I do not think that happened either, because when Cena brought it up, Rock was PISSED. And as we have seen from his movies... He is not that great of an actor..

Punk could say the exact same thing that Cena said, but Punk will say it BETTER.

Rock better bring it or he will get embarrassed.

[TripleSkeet]

I disagree...

When the Rock was at his peak there was a bunch of people, people wanted to see. And it would have been sold out with or without the Rock.

2nd. I am not so sure he has headlined more WM than Cena has, if he has, its not that far more.

As for purposely tanking, I do not think that happened either, because when Cena brought it up, Rock was PISSED. And as we have seen from his movies... He is not that great of an actor..

Punk could say the exact same thing that Cena said, but Punk will say it BETTER.

Rock better bring it or he will get embarrassed.

Stop. It even came out those notes on his wrist were part of the script. Maybe it would be more believable if he had EVER done it before or since.

The headlining Mania thing, OK. But hes drawn WAY more then anyone in the WWE right now. Yes, the WWE did have alot more then just him back then. But I dont think people realize when he started to really get over. Im watching the History of Raw on WWE classics, and September of 98, a full 6 months before his first Mania main event against Austin, is when he started blowing up. Th one I watched tonight he main evented against Taker and the whole match the crowd was going crazy for him.

Not to mention every time hes on Raw now they do almost a full point higher in the ratings than normal.

I love Punk, but when comparing careers hes not even in The Rocks league yet.

[Kevin]

Stop. It even came out those notes on his wrist were part of the script. Maybe it would be more believable if he had EVER done it before or since.

The headlining Mania thing, OK. But hes drawn WAY more then anyone in the WWE right now. Yes, the WWE did have alot more then just him back then. But I dont think people realize when he started to really get over. Im watching the History of Raw on WWE classics, and September of 98, a full 6 months before his first Mania main event against Austin, is when he started blowing up. Th one I watched tonight he main evented against Taker and the whole match the crowd was going crazy for him.

Not to mention every time hes on Raw now they do almost a full point higher in the ratings than normal.

I love Punk, but when comparing careers hes not even in The Rocks league yet.

Nobody said Punk is in his league.

I'm saying Punk is a very good mic guy.

And so is Rock if he cares enough to bring his A game.

I just do not think he does at this point.

Can I blame him? No. He is a rich movie star that does this part time.

I am just saying he should because he is going up against a guy that will expose him for it more than Cena, and Cena did it a ton.

[cougarjake13]

booker t is now ur smack down gm

[conman823]

booker t is now ur smack down gm

And the crowd goes Mild.

As far as being a choice for GM, it's actually not that bad because he could fill the role long term. For storyline sake, when needed, Booker can still work in the ring etc.

It's all the same qualitites I said for Lawler to be GM of RAW. Plus it gets them out of the commentary booth.

[cougarjake13]

it all just seems pointless as most fans know its all scripted so the gm role is nothing more then a mouthpiece for it or to advance a storyline
it's not like they're actually making booking decicions

[TripleSkeet]

Nobody said Punk is in his league.

I'm saying Punk is a very good mic guy.

And so is Rock if he cares enough to bring his A game.

I just do not think he does at this point.

Can I blame him? No. He is a rich movie star that does this part time.

I am just saying he should because he is going up against a guy that will expose him for it more than Cena, and Cena did it a ton.

I guess Im trying to figure out what you mean by his A game. Some of his promos on Cena were top quality. He fucking buried him many times and on many things. Where pretty much all Cena had was "Youre not a full time wrestler anymore." Dont get me wrong, he used that one thing to cut some of the best promos he put out in the last 5 years, but it was still pretty much all on that one thing.

Something I have a feeling we are gonna see with Punk too. Because what else can they say??? "You left a job working or traveling 300 days a year to make 20 times more money doing 1/3 the work! Yea! Youve done what every wrestler has dreamed of doing and with the exception of Hulk Hogan, none have even come close! Youve got too much money! Youre too famous! You come back and millions of people that dont watch wrestling watch it again!" Its the only card theyve got. Im sure Punk will use it brilliantly, Id just like to see a little more creativity also.

His match at Mania was great. Definitely main event worthy. Theres no denying hes still great in the ring and looks better than most if not all the current superstars. And he can hang with anyone theyve got when it comes to promos. So Im not sure what A game you mean. And how youre so sure he cant bring it.

Him, Lesnar and Punks heel turn are the only reason the 1000th Raw wasnt dogshit.

[Kevin]

I guess Im trying to figure out what you mean by his A game. Some of his promos on Cena were top quality. He fucking buried him many times and on many things. Where pretty much all Cena had was "Youre not a full time wrestler anymore." Dont get me wrong, he used that one thing to cut some of the best promos he put out in the last 5 years, but it was still pretty much all on that one thing.

Something I have a feeling we are gonna see with Punk too. Because what else can they say??? "You left a job working or traveling 300 days a year to make 20 times more money doing 1/3 the work! Yea! Youve done what every wrestler has dreamed of doing and with the exception of Hulk Hogan, none have even come close! Youve got too much money! Youre too famous! You come back and millions of people that dont watch wrestling watch it again!" Its the only card theyve got. Im sure Punk will use it brilliantly, Id just like to see a little more creativity also.

His match at Mania was great. Definitely main event worthy. Theres no denying hes still great in the ring and looks better than most if not all the current superstars. And he can hang with anyone theyve got when it comes to promos. So Im not sure what A game you mean. And how youre so sure he cant bring it.

Him, Lesnar and Punks heel turn are the only reason the 1000th Raw wasnt dogshit.

I just think he needs to some shit to come out with. Not the same old sayings from 10yrs ago.

He did it with Bryant,

Just come out with some new material.

[epo]

Rock is obviously a great talent but to call him "great" in the ring is just plain wrong.

[TripleSkeet]

Rock is obviously a great talent but to call him "great" in the ring is just plain wrong.

Hes obviously not Shawn Michaels level. How many people really are? Id put him on the 2nd tier on the same level as guys like Austin, HHH, Undertaker, Hogan, Piper, Funk Etc.

[Kevin]

Hes obviously not Shawn Michaels level. How many people really are? Id put him on the 2nd tier on the same level as guys like Austin, HHH, Undertaker, Hogan, Piper, Funk Etc.

I would not put those names besides Punk as 2nd tier either.


They are all 3rd 4th teir.

They were all terrible wrestlers.

[Chimee]

JBL is on twitter hinting that he would replace Booker T on commentary. That's one of those Twitter teases that I wish would actually happen.

[cougarjake13]

JBL is on twitter hinting that he would replace Booker T on commentary. That's one of those Twitter teases that I wish would actually happen.



he was good the last time he was on commentary but why the fuck do we need Michael cole on every show?

[Chimee]

he was good the last time he was on commentary but why the fuck do we need Michael cole on every show?

Because his antics made Vince laugh once.

[cougarjake13]

Because his antics made Vince laugh once.



fucking stupid

[TripleSkeet]

I would not put those names besides Punk as 2nd tier either.


They are all 3rd 4th teir.

They were all terrible wrestlers.

I would actually put Punks in ring performance as first tier. Same level as Michaels, Jericho, Hart, Steamboat, Van Dam, Flair, etc. He just needs longevity now.

All of the guys I mentioned put on hundreds of quality matches. Terrible wrestlers? Nonsense. You dont have to be extremely technical or best high flyer to put on a good match.

[brettmojo]

Austin was actually a very sound technical wrestler. He largely abandoned that shit because it didn't fit the Stone Cold persona.

[Kevin]

I would actually put Punks in ring performance as first tier. Same level as Michaels, Jericho, Hart, Steamboat, Van Dam, Flair, etc. He just needs longevity now.

All of the guys I mentioned put on hundreds of quality matches. Terrible wrestlers? Nonsense. You dont have to be extremely technical or best high flyer to put on a good match.

You are telling me that hogan was anything but a dog shit wrestler? Thats nonsense.

[TripleSkeet]

You are telling me that hogan was anything but a dog shit wrestler? Thats nonsense.

Not sure how old you are but look up some Hogan matches from the early and mid-80s. I remember watching alot of them on the old Coliseum Video label. He had some awesome matches with Piper, Valentine, Dr. D Dave Shultz and others. Alot of them were bloodbaths too.

[NickyL0885]

You are telling me that hogan was anything but a dog shit wrestler? Thats nonsense.

Hey man.....that leg drop was devastating! No one could come back from that! :wallbash:

[newport king]

Id love to hear what some of your opinions are as far as top 5 in ring wrestlers

5. Chris Jericho
4. Kurt Angle
3. Chris Benoit
2. Shawn Michaels
1. Bret Hart

[brettmojo]

Id love to hear what some of your opinions are as far as top 5 in ring wrestlers

5. Chris Jericho
4. Kurt Angle
3. Chris Benoit
2. Shawn Michaels
1. Bret Hart
5a. Eddie Guerrero

[Kevin]

Id love to hear what some of your opinions are as far as top 5 in ring wrestlers

5. Chris Jericho
4. Kurt Angle
3. Chris Benoit
2. Shawn Michaels
1. Bret Hart

Who is #3????

I don't think he exists

[TripleSkeet]

Id love to hear what some of your opinions are as far as top 5 in ring wrestlers

5. Chris Jericho
4. Kurt Angle
3. Chris Benoit
2. Shawn Michaels
1. Bret Hart

My Top 10 wrestlers in the ring

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Kurt Angle
3. Bret Hart
4. Ric Flair
5. Ricky Steamboat
6. Randy Savage
7. Dynamite Kid
8. Chris Benoit
9. Rob Van Dam
10. Chris Jericho

Those are what I consider Tier 1 in ring wrestlers. Tier 2 guys are what I considered wrestlers that could still put on compelling wrestling matches that had fans on the edge of their seats, without the amount of in ring talent as those Tier 1 guys. People like Hogan, Piper, Austin, Rock, HHH, Undertaker, Funk etc.

Hogans road was similar to Cenas. Where he used to be a pretty good wrestler who just blew up and eventually just relied on his regular 6 move routine ending with his Superman comeback and win. The thing is he stuck around so long people forget about when he was good in the ring. Every once in awhile he could still pull it out though. His match with Bret Hart in WCW and his Mania match with The Rock are 2 that stand out for me. They were both really impressive for Hogan at that age. Im serious though, if you can find his early WWE or AWA matches I think youd be impressed with the way Hogan wrestled back then.

[TripleSkeet]

Ever see Hogan hit an inzeguri? How about a drop toe hold? Check this out. He also doesnt win by a leg drop. And this was 93.

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[RingWraith]

Austin was actually a very sound technical wrestler. He largely abandoned that shit because it didn't fit the Stone Cold persona.

This reminds of that time Stone Cold fought Chris Benoit for the first time in WWE when he came back from his long break from injury, and was pulling out some impressive technical mat stuff against Benoit on Raw.

Damn, I miss Stone Cold. :down:

[RingWraith]

Who is #3????

I don't think he exists

Nope! He sure doesn't.

[RingWraith]

Hey man.....that leg drop was devastating! No one could come back from that! :wallbash:

The immortal legdrop was indeed devastating. What's also amazing how EVERY wrestler who faces Hogan, can't help but to continuously try to punch him while he's "hulking up" when they should know that it never works. Again... amazing! :dry:

[RingWraith]

Ever see Hogan hit an inzeguri? How about a drop toe hold? Check this out. He also doesnt win by a leg drop. And this was 93.

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I saw this before and it's pretty cool to see Hogan actually performing a different style of wrestling for a change.

[cougarjake13]

I saw this before and it's pretty cool to see Hogan actually performing a different style of wrestling for a change.



I couldn't get past the 5 minutes of rodeo dancing around the ring with occasional lock ups

[TripleSkeet]

I couldn't get past the 5 minutes of rodeo dancing around the ring with occasional lock ups

Yea it was pretty drawn out but thats just because alot of Japanese matches start that away and Muta especially.

[cougarjake13]

dunno y


but AJ looks amazing !!

[conman823]

Excellent conversation gentlemen ....

A few thoughts. Hogan is completely classically trained as a wrestler. He was trained the old school way, which was complete shoot style, and then spent significant time in Japan working their stiff style. His knowledge is broad. He learned that he made millions playing to the crowd, working 10 mins and using 5 moves of doom to win.

That formula is what is "The WWE style". That's what they look for primarily in workers. If nobody read Jerichos 2 books PLEASE I'm BEGGING YOU TO. Its a great example of how you can be great everywhere in the world but when you get to WWE you're gonna get broken down and remade in that mold or flop.

[epo]

While I like watching RVD, I can't see him on a top ten list. Definitely very over with fans and misused by Vince, but not that great technically as a wrestler & doesn't seem to have much psychology in his matches.

[brettmojo]

dunno y


but AJ looks amazing !!
Stunning. More so than last week.

But the GM shit stinks.

[cougarjake13]

Stunning. More so than last week.

But the GM shit stinks.


yes!
yes!
yes!



but the suit makes her appear older and more attractive then the pedo tomboy look

[MIKEYDAKEN]

yes!
yes!
yes!



but the suit makes her appear older and more attractive then the pedo tomboy look

yeah but the skipping brings that right back.

[RingWraith]

hah! Gotta love Ryback's extremely generic theme song.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

did they give cena a spray tan or did cena SR. go slumming in the ghetto one night?

[NickyL0885]

dunno y


but AJ looks amazing !!

Oh yeah....I'd wreck that chick.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/347/402/f6f.gif

[TripleSkeet]

Excellent conversation gentlemen ....

A few thoughts. Hogan is completely classically trained as a wrestler. He was trained the old school way, which was complete shoot style, and then spent significant time in Japan working their stiff style. His knowledge is broad. He learned that he made millions playing to the crowd, working 10 mins and using 5 moves of doom to win.

That formula is what is "The WWE style". That's what they look for primarily in workers. If nobody read Jerichos 2 books PLEASE I'm BEGGING YOU TO. Its a great example of how you can be great everywhere in the world but when you get to WWE you're gonna get broken down and remade in that mold or flop.

I read them both. Excellnt books. Amazing all the heat he had coming in. I rank his first book as #2 for wrestling autobiographies right behind Have a Nice Day.

[TripleSkeet]

While I like watching RVD, I can't see him on a top ten list. Definitely very over with fans and misused by Vince, but not that great technically as a wrestler & doesn't seem to have much psychology in his matches.

The thing that I like about Van Dam is, Like all the others on that list, he could usually get a great match out of anyone. Alot of times he was working with subpar wrestlers in ECW and would usually have a good match, but when he worked with real talent, hed tear the house down. Same thing when he came to WWE. I loved his matches with Jerry Lynn, Sabu, Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle.

The greatest match of his ever though, in my opinion was this one...
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[newport king]

Might have to check that out

[Dirtbag]

Stunning. More so than last week.

But the GM shit stinks.

If they insist on running the GM gimmick she's as good as anyone besides JBL.

[newport king]

I really enjoy recording raw and watching it within 1hr.

Can we stop making Brock Lesnar look like the biggest pussy? He shouldve squashed HHH in front of Steph, and now last night he cowers out of the ring. Nobody thinks THE FORMER UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION is afraid of a guy that play fights and lifts weights

[TjM]

I read them both. Excellnt books. Amazing all the heat he had coming in. I rank his first book as #2 for wrestling autobiographies right behind Have a Nice Day.

I though Regals was very good. Also love Race and Funks books

[cougarjake13]

did they give cena a spray tan or did cena SR. go slumming in the ghetto one night?



it's crazy how similar they look

[TripleSkeet]

I though Regals was very good. Also love Race and Funks books

I read Races, enjopyed it. Still havent read Funks or Regals. Kurt Angles is really good too. Really gives alot of insight into what he had to do to train for the Olympics. Really grueling shit. Bret Harts and Heenans were pretty good too.

[TripleSkeet]

If they insist on running the GM gimmick she's as good as anyone besides JBL.

She doesnt even come close to Regal or Bischoff when they were GMs.

[Chimee]

She doesnt even come close to Regal or Bischoff when they were GMs.

One of the things that annoy me about the WWE is that they have a guy as good as Regal and he is not on TV as a manager, GM, or commentator. Listening to he and JR call matches on NXT is great.

[TripleSkeet]

One of the things that annoy me about the WWE is that they have a guy as good as Regal and he is not on TV as a manager, GM, or commentator. Listening to he and JR call matches on NXT is great.

I wish I watched it. They seem like a great commentary pair. Regal is sorely underused.

[newport king]

I always see NXT but have no idea what ch and when its on

[cougarjake13]

I always see NXT but have no idea what ch and when its on


no channel

I think it's online only

[Chimee]

It's on TV overseas, but they have gone out of their way to make sure that people in America can't get it. It's really just getting lucky and finding one on Youtube before it gets taken down.

[Dirtbag]

She doesnt even come close to Regal or Bischoff when they were GMs.

I forgot about Regal. Never really was a fan of Bischoff.

[conman823]

I forgot about Regal. Never really was a fan of Bischoff.

Bischoff was always awesome as the heel GM character. Plus the little features of him making the commentators sit near the entrance, ala WCW, gave it some real feel.

He'll be back when TNA folds

[TripleSkeet]

Bischoff was always awesome as the heel GM character. Plus the little features of him making the commentators sit near the entrance, ala WCW, gave it some real feel.

He'll be back when TNA folds

I think he was always great as a heel for the same reason Heyman is. They both have traits that make it seem like they can be very unlikable in real life, and they are good at turning them way up for the camera.

[cougarjake13]

I think he was always great as a heel for the same reason Heyman is. They both have traits that make it seem like they can be very unlikable in real life, and they are good at turning them way up for the camera.


like when he brought up trips n stephs kids

looked like he adlibed cause trips looked legit pissed

[Kevin]

So if you had to pick two announcers to be the best of all time. One heel one face.

Who would it be.

Mine is a no brainer.

JR and Heenan.

Looking back on some old vids, no one was better than Brain as a heel.

[TjM]

Twitter fight!

, Grantland.com published a lengthy article Tuesday on the life and controversial wrestling career of Kevin Nash with the six-time world champion notably reiterating his stance on “Vanilla Midgets,” a dismissive term he used behind-the-scenes in the late ’90s in World Championship Wrestling to describe small-statured, gifted technical wrestlers such as Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero. Nash said the professional wrestling industry died at WrestleMania XX when the pay-per-view event concluded with Benoit and Guerrero—both of whom were under six-feet-tall—reigning atop as world champions and emotionally celebrating. Chris Jericho, who worked his way up the wrestling ranks alongside Benoit and Guerrero, publicly took offense to Nash’s remarks and responded with another commonly used stance.

He tweeted late Tuesday evening, “Funny how @realkevinnash says wrestling “died” when Benoit and Guerrero were champs-Yet the worst year for WWE biz was 95 when he was on top.”

The oft-used point originated from Wrestling Observer editor Dave Meltzer, who has repeated stated over the years that WWE had its worst financial period in company history in 1995 when Nash held the WWF Championship as Diesel.

Nash responded to Jericho’s tweet minutes later, writing, “Once again the puppet master pulls the marks strings .Knew Jericho was a closet mark.First one eliminated on a bulls–t sing show…REALLY!!” Jericho replied, “Hope @realkevinnash doesn’t tear his quad tweeting! #typicalbigman #nwothirdwheel.”

Nash’s interview comments triggering Jericho’s rebuttal were: “When Benoit and Guerrero hugged [at the end of WrestleMania XX], that was the end of the business. Has business been the same since that WrestleMania? Has it come close to the Austin era? Has it come close to the nWo or the Hogan era? You put two fucking guys that were great workers that were the same height as the fucking referees, and I’m sorry, man. Are you going to watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick? Even if you’re not gay, you will not watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick. That’s not the standard in porno films. So you put a 5-foot-7 guy as your world champion.”


.

Nash on Punk and Bryan

“They are not bigger than life. I bet they both could walk through airports and not be noticed unless they have a gimmick shirt on and the belt.”

[TjM]

I still gotta go with Gorrila and Bobby. Just from a nostalgia standpoint

[spe5150]

So if you had to pick two announcers to be the best of all time. One heel one face.

Looking back on some old vids, no one was better than Brain as a heel.

His performance at the 92 Rumble as Flair's manager alone is the greatest hour of heel commentary in wrestling history. And even when he was bored out of his mind during awful Nitros where there was next to nothing going on, he would still drop in some gem one-liners that would crack me up. Heenan was the best, hands down.

[Dirtbag]

Heenan during the Rockers Barbershop is quite possibly the best piece of commentary ever.

[conman823]

It was his ability to justify the heels actions no matter what that was genius. Lawler
at his peak could do the same, but The Brain was the best

[conman823]

I read the Nash article in its entirety. It was a real good look into his warped mind.

I get where he's coming from and he's 100% right to an extent. Also by default its putting himself over (still) because its a description of himself.

The down side is it shows how the business passed him by long ago. He had his shot with the HHH feud and he fell on his face. While CM Punk, and Rey Mesterio merch was flying off the shelves.

[TripleSkeet]

I read the Nash article in its entirety. It was a real good look into his warped mind.

I get where he's coming from and he's 100% right to an extent. Also by default its putting himself over (still) because its a description of himself.

The down side is it shows how the business passed him by long ago. He had his shot with the HHH feud and he fell on his face. While CM Punk, and Rey Mesterio merch was flying off the shelves.

That whole thing was bullshit. Im pretty sure he was doing it to see who he got a rise out of and Jericho bit. Right after the 1000th Raw Nash was tweeting how the WWE should bring back the nWo with Punk as its leader, now all of a sudden he thinks hes no good?

[TripleSkeet]

Oh and for as much as I love JR, my all time team would still be Gorilla and Brain.

[TjM]

That whole thing was bullshit. Im pretty sure he was doing it to see who he got a rise out of and Jericho bit. Right after the 1000th Raw Nash was tweeting how the WWE should bring back the nWo with Punk as its leader, now all of a sudden he thinks hes no good?

Could also be an angle set up

[TjM]

Yeah sure Phil you'll get the belt back at Mania

WWE's booking committee are contemplating a scenario where CM Punk would drop the WWE Championship to John Cena at SummerSlam to set up a rematch between Cena and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson at Royal Rumble-Johnson announced at Raw 1,000 that he would face whoever the WWE Champion is at the January pay-per-view event. Johnson would defeat Cena at the Rumble and then defend the title against Punk at WrestleMania XXIX.

[NickyL0885]

Yeah sure Phil you'll get the belt back at Mania

Are we really shocked by this?

[TripleSkeet]

Yeah sure Phil you'll get the belt back at Mania

I would really love that. I just cant let myself believe theyd have Cena lose to The Rock twice in a row with no payback.

[brettmojo]

They'll probably set it up so Rock beats Punk for the title at 'Rumble then Cena beats Rock at 'Mania.

[Kevin]

I would really love that. I just cant let myself believe theyd have Cena lose to The Rock twice in a row with no payback.

I agree Cena will not lose to Rock twice in a row.

I would love to see Punk Rock at Mania but won't happen

[cougarjake13]

Punk Rock

sounds like a gay tag team name theyd give those guys

[TripleSkeet]

They'll probably set it up so Rock beats Punk for the title at 'Rumble then Cena beats Rock at 'Mania.

Thats kinda how I pictured it when they first announced it. I hope thats not it, but Im betting it is.

[Chimee]

Well, they've fired A.W. two weeks after he made the rape joke. He has since gone on twitter and made his feelings known.

[styckx]

WWE are such pussies.. If there was an idiot left on the planet yesterday who still believed WWE was ever going to get out of the super duper PG era.. They don't exist anymore today.

[NickyL0885]

WWE are such pussies.. If there was an idiot left on the planet yesterday who still believed WWE was ever going to get out of the super duper PG era.. They don't exist anymore today.

Can't ruin Linda's 2nd attempt at the US Senate!

[epo]

Can't ruin Linda's 2nd attempt at the US Senate!

Demographics in Connecticut take care of that for us.

[NickyL0885]

Demographics in Connecticut take care of that for us.

Oh I know. Even Women groups are out saying they don't like her. I don't know why she is running again. She should have started for a House run. Maybe would have been easier for her.

[conman823]

I thought the joke wasn't funny, not because it was a rape joke mind you, but because it was too dated.

If the whole situation makes them stop giving AW a live mic AND gets him off my TV for 30 days I'm all for it..

I standby my original statement and guess I underestimated the "severity " of the discipline.

[conman823]

The PG era is here to stay. Most likely, indefinitely.

I don't even think Linda's stupid attempt at getting a senate seat has anything to do with it.

As a publicly traded company existing in this horrendous Ultra Sensitive World, where everything that crosses a tv screen is nit picked by 300 "Groups" and "Counsels" who could blame them for being PG.

Also, The Benoit House of Horrors happened in June of 07, WWE spent months with TV shows running reels of awful WWE programming from the attitude era. 2008 starts the PG era.

Now when a show pulls a tape of Trish crawling around like a dog (fuckin hot) they can say it was 15 years ago. Them play a tape of kids with Cena and dancing with Brodus Clay.

[TripleSkeet]

Oh I know. Even Women groups are out saying they don't like her. I don't know why she is running again. She should have started for a House run. Maybe would have been easier for her.

Cant wait to find out how much of their money she wasted on this childrens fantasy of hers this time. Gotta be over $50 mill total between both runs.

[cougarjake13]

Cant wait to find out how much of their money she wasted on this childrens fantasy of hers this time. Gotta be over $50 mill total between both runs.



and we all suffer bc of it

[conman823]

Is Twitter hurting or helping?

With regards to the whole AW thing, did he ever consider that if he was released for the some political reasons that he might be asked back sooner rather than later? Instead he shoots off at the mouth on Twitter.

Good, bad, whatever WWE is the big show. Sometimes you got to play within the system. Daniel Bryan did it and is in the main event scene.

Enjoy "the independents" AW

[NickyL0885]

OMG! Pauly D is the social media ambassador for Summer Slam! Now I TOTALLY have to order the PPV! :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash: :wallbash::wallbash::flush::flush::flush::flush::f lush:

[styckx]

OMG! Pauly D is the social media ambassador for Summer Slam! Now I TOTALLY have to order the PPV! :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash: :wallbash::wallbash::flush::flush::flush::flush::f lush:

Seriously.. A DJ for Summerslam. I can't wait to not pay to watch this dog shit..

[styckx]

Not a bad match at all!

I wonder what Ryberg thinks.. Ryberg??

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8d29bxM1l1r4dbef.gif

I think he liked it too!

[MIKEYDAKEN]

they just wasted a great chance to have a reason for shawn to get involved but they keep forcing the idea that brock is somehow afraid of trips. he could murder him if he chose i hope he really does break that big nosed pricks arm maybe then he will stay retired.

[newport king]

This is so fucking lame.

[conman823]

"Damsil in Distress" Shawn Micheals was the worst

[MIKEYDAKEN]

"Damsil in Distress" Shawn Micheals was the worst

and yet marty janetty is at home going damn i could have sold that better

[styckx]

My favorite part of RAW was when they put a neck brace on a guy with a broken arm.

[TripleSkeet]

Is Twitter hurting or helping?

With regards to the whole AW thing, did he ever consider that if he was released for the some political reasons that he might be asked back sooner rather than later? Instead he shoots off at the mouth on Twitter.

Good, bad, whatever WWE is the big show. Sometimes you got to play within the system. Daniel Bryan did it and is in the main event scene.

Enjoy "the independents" AW

Meltzer seems to feel the opposite on this. He says Vince doesnt have any respect for guys that get bullied and dont fight back. Thats actually something Ive read and heard ALOT.

Bryans case was different. I think they planned on using him like that all along, so the suspension just worked out that way. Even if they didnt, he had Cena backing him....publicly. That never hurts.

[conman823]

My favorite part of RAW was when they put a neck brace on a guy with a broken arm.


I said that out loud to my wife "WTF is the neck brace coming out for?"

That's the worst angle HBK has EVER been involved in.

[conman823]

Meltzer seems to feel the opposite on this. He says Vince doesnt have any respect for guys that get bullied and dont fight back. Thats actually something Ive read and heard ALOT.

Bryans case was different. I think they planned on using him like that all along, so the suspension just worked out that way. Even if they didnt, he had Cena backing him....publicly. That never hurts.

I think Vince would respect someone coming to him face to face and bringing this shit up, nof Twitter. Besides, do you honestly think Vince knows about his twitter rants? Am I to believe that Vince is getting a print out of AW's complaining and spending time out of his day reading it?

[TripleSkeet]

I think Vince would respect someone coming to him face to face and bringing this shit up, nof Twitter. Besides, do you honestly think Vince knows about his twitter rants? Am I to believe that Vince is getting a print out of AW's complaining and spending time out of his day reading it?

I guarantee hes hearing about it. Are you kidding? With all the shit they do promoting Twitter, do you really think he doesnt have people monitoring them to see whats said? Im not saying he sits there and reads every word, but Im sure they are keeping him informed on what kind of response hes getting. Which to be honest is more then Im betting Vince ever wouldve thought the guy would recieve. Also, word from behind the scenes is most of the superstars agree with him and were unhappy about his release.

[conman823]

The live mic idea was setting him up to fail from the start.

But also there was a Linda mcmahon tweet he made also. Apparently he didn't know the campaign was off limits so again twitter, not helping. Also dirt sheets say at RAW there was a meeting where they were told watch the social media crap and use common sense

[newport king]

Khloe Kardashian will be mondays social media ambassador for RAW. awesome.

[TripleSkeet]

Sigh. Its getting almost unwatchable.

[NickyL0885]

I wonder, who in the world thinks this social media thing is working for them? I know they do that dumb Tout and that people tweet them, but you can't tell me they get more positive ones over negative ones. When Vince asks about how it's going, do they say "the fans love it!" and not mention that most hate it? I don't mind that they want to be social media savvy, but jesus tap dancing christ, it's unbearable. I DOUBT they will bring in more fans b/c a Kardashian will be tweeting about the show, or b/c Pauly Douchebag will be playing music for Summer Slam.

[TripleSkeet]

I wonder, who in the world thinks this social media thing is working for them? I know they do that dumb Tout and that people tweet them, but you can't tell me they get more positive ones over negative ones. When Vince asks about how it's going, do they say "the fans love it!" and not mention that most hate it? I don't mind that they want to be social media savvy, but jesus tap dancing christ, it's unbearable. I DOUBT they will bring in more fans b/c a Kardashian will be tweeting about the show, or b/c Pauly Douchebag will be playing music for Summer Slam.

It really is annoying. Its one thing to accept social media and use it to help your company, but the WWE is overkilling it like the guy that gets his first tattoo and within 6 months has his entire back and arms covered. Every other 5 minutes was whos Touting what, and go Tweet who you want to pick for this or that, and whats trending now. Its fucking corny and embarrassing.

[newport king]

And if theyre gonna do that fan vote shit, dont script it. That pipers pit was awful

[cougarjake13]

And if theyre gonna do that fan vote shit, dont script it. That pipers pit was awful



yeh what was the fucking point of that when all 3 showed up anyway

[conman823]

It is getting near to impossible to watch. I've even tried my best to ignore/accept the whole social media craze they're undergoing now. I mean I understand that they're Social Media Score can be used to entice sponsors etc but it's NOT ENTERTAINING ME! In ring Action entertains me not the fucking Social Media ambassador or whatever the fuck shit!

[TjM]

Sounds awsome which is why it won't happen

According to a source, CM Punk and Paul Heyman are pushing to be paired together starting in the fall. They have apparently pitched the idea to Vince McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie.
The feeling right now is that the company is not interested in committing to anything more than the current "per deal" date with Heyman, but that could change down the road.

Also, for those wondering, there has been no talk of Heyman being offered a position within creative.

There has also been light talk of pairing John Laurinaitis with Jack Swagger, however Vince has yet to commit to the idea outright.



Read more: http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2012/0815/555295/cm-punk-paul-heyman/#ixzz23eo5Bos5

[TripleSkeet]

Sounds awsome which is why it won't happen

Got that right. I love that they have no plans for Heyman. Hes only the best talker in their entire company right now. Why WOULD they see that???

[TjM]

Got that right. I love that they have no plans for Heyman. Hes only the best talker in their entire company right now. Why WOULD they see that???

Vince is in his I don't like managers/real tag teams phase

[cougarjake13]

Got that right. I love that they have no plans for Heyman. Hes only the best talker in their entire company right now. Why WOULD they see that???



bc it doesn't fit in with the pg social media bullshit they're doin now

[styckx]

Word is that WWE has instituted an "unspoken" for matches that take place on the new WWE Saturday Morning Slam show. The new show, which is aimed at children, will not feature moves aimed at the neck, which would include anything from a simple headlock to the RKO. The feeling is that with the show being aimed at children, that moves performed to the neck might come off as too violent. With that being the case, WWE is avoiding any type of offense that gives the appearance of "snapping" or targeting the neck area.

The show debuts on the CW Network on August 25th.

:lol:

[TripleSkeet]

:lol:

I never thought Id see the day that wrestling actually died.

[conman823]

I never thought Id see the day that wrestling actually died.


Well i'll play devils advocate here, that show is nowhere near geared to our age demographic.

[TripleSkeet]

Well i'll play devils advocate here, that show is nowhere near geared to our age demographic.

I agree. I just dont get it. I understand editing language, blood, and sexuality for a Saturday morning show....but not the wrestling. Its the whole point of the show. If I didnt want my kids watching men fight I would let them watch wrestling, period. If they are watching it that means I have no problem with them seeing guys do these moves....even the neck ones.

[cougarjake13]

some kid must have done an rko to another kid and fucked him up

[newport king]

Didnt watch summerslam, suprised HHH put Lesnar over.