Monday Night RAW Discussion [Archive] - Page 32

TripleSkeet

05-01-2012, 10:24 AM

So basically, the WWE sets up a match with the guy, double crosses him, and hes the one thats wrong for being pissed?

This isnt about being "bigger then the E" the bottom line is, guys like Cena, Orton, Kofi Kingston if not in wrestling are nothing without the WWE. Their names are pretty much worthless to anyone but Indy feds and maybe TNA. Lesnar has made a global name for himself, like it or not. Just like The Rock and Hogan they are worth a ton with or without the WWE. So when wrestling they have to protect their outside interests.

They cant just let Vince McMahon use them however he wants. It doesnt work that way. What if Vince brought him in and just had him lose squash matches every week to guys like Kofi Kingston, Santino and Zack Ryder? That would kill their name financially. So they come up with scenarios to both get over the other superstars like Cena, while still making Brock look strong....and then they double cross him. Sorry but hes right. You make a deal witgh someone, you dont swerve them and make them look weak. How the fuck is he supposed to trust anything the WWE plans for him again?

brettmojo

05-01-2012, 10:36 AM

TripleSkeet

05-01-2012, 10:58 AM

Lesnar rampaging through the roster for the summer would have been awesome... Like a summer of Brock or whatever... Have him beat Cena last Sunday, injure him... Cena goes away for a while to "heal"... He comes back just when Brock has destroyed everybody, and beats him at Summerslam or Survivor Series or whatever... Something like that would have made the usually boring ass summer a interesting one. Now what? Still pushing Cena as Hogan 2.0 or two-point-blow... Same boring ass shit.

Exactly. It wouldve went perfectly with their anti-bullying campaign. He beats Cena at Extreme Rules, Cena gets stretchered out. Hes gone. HHH comes out to admonish Brock for costing the WWE their main guy...and he gets fucked up. Then, instead of having him face HHH, you have HHH play the REAL role of a boss, and set up matches with guys to take Brock out.

Start with his boy Orton, that would be Brocks June feud. The whole time throughout shows you just have Brock bullying the smaller talents. Nothing too vicious, just pushing around guys like Santino or Ryder. Even Josh Matthews. After Brock destroys Orton you have HHH bring out Big Sghow. Thats would be his July feud. You bring up their past for the thousands of kids that dont know their was wrestling before Cena. You show the match where Brock superplexed Show and the entire ring collapsed. Just awesome TV. Then you have Brock beat his as at that PPV. After that you see HHH trying to recruit someone else, and just keep showing wrestlers turning him down. Kingston, R-Truth, The Miz, even Kane. Just when it looks like the whole roster is scared and nobody wants any part of Brock you have him crowing in the ring and you hit Cenas music.

It would be the biggest pop hes gotten in 4 years. And people would actually cheer him again. Then you put over Cena at Summerslam. Make it look like he took out the big bad bully. And you move them both onto feuds with somebody else.

Chimee

05-01-2012, 11:02 AM

I still can't understand why Cena won at Extreme Rules. It makes absolutely zero sense and they're pretty much treating it as if he lost.

newport king

05-01-2012, 12:26 PM

I still can't understand why Cena won at Extreme Rules. It makes absolutely zero sense and they're pretty much treating it as if he lost.

Because you cant have your top guy, or at least who you view as your top guy regardless of who's wearing the strap, lose the "biggest match of all time" and follow that up with a loss to Brock who ALSO hasnt had a match in 8 years. The fans booing him have been bad enough couple that with back to back losses, it kills his credibility (as far as credibility in fake fighting goes)

newport king

05-01-2012, 12:33 PM

TripleSkeet

05-01-2012, 12:45 PM

This is gonna sound like im shitting on him, and i realize that, but without WWE, where would he be? If you watched him in UFC you know he cant actually fight. So MMA is out. Couldn't cut it in NFL, Hes got serious health issues. He should be happy Vince loves him. Because without him he'd be home listening to Sable out in the backwoods of Minnesota.

When he first came to the WWE I would agree with you. He was just a 2 time NCAA champ which gave him about 2 options, go to the WWE or coach college wrestling.

But he took what WWE gave him, and made so much more out of it. Yea he didnt make the Vikings, but for a guy that didnt even play college ball, he did really well. Then he goes to UFC and draws more then ANY of their fighters. Say what you want, but his fights sold more then any other UFC fighter has. And until some of these guys start getting a personality, more then they ever will.

He doesnt need Vince at all. Hes got plenty of money. Look how much leverage he really had in those contract negotiations. Hes getting $3 million to work 35 dates over the course of a year. He made Vince agree to let him wear his sponsors on his gear. Thats shit Vince NEVER gives in on.

Just like The Rock took the opportunity that Vince gave him, and made alot more out of it. He didnt need the WWE this year, Vince needed him to sell Wrestlemania. Either way, the bottom line is these guys have created their own brand, its fucking unprofessional to come with a plan for a match that makes both guys look good, and then fuck over one of them.

TripleSkeet

05-01-2012, 12:47 PM

Because you cant have your top guy, or at least who you view as your top guy regardless of who's wearing the strap, lose the "biggest match of all time" and follow that up with a loss to Brock who ALSO hasnt had a match in 8 years. The fans booing him have been bad enough couple that with back to back losses, it kills his credibility (as far as credibility in fake fighting goes)

Why? Hes a 13 time champion. Youve made him beat just about everyone thats come down the pike except for The Rock. If he doesnt have credibility by now he will never have it.

newport king

05-01-2012, 02:24 PM

conman823

05-01-2012, 02:43 PM

My other concern from last night:

What the fuck is Lord Tensai doing exactly? He's out there walking like a Ninja Turtle Villian and talking in Japanese.

He could be worse then the Funkasaurus.

newport king

05-01-2012, 02:47 PM

I hope M.V.P. comes back from Japan with an equally ridiculous persona.

RingWraith

05-01-2012, 05:03 PM

My other concern from last night:

What the fuck is Lord Tensai doing exactly? He's out there walking like a Ninja Turtle Villian and talking in Japanese.

He could be worse then the Funkasaurus.

hah! He also looks ridiculous doing that "japanese" stance. His whole gimmick deserves a *facepalm*.

TripleSkeet

05-01-2012, 07:11 PM

Im saying as of right now, hes out of options as far as a career goes. Im not downplaying whats hes done. But realistically where can he turn at this point? Sure hold Vince's feet to the fire and get as much out of him as you can, especially since he has such a hard on for him. Thats just being a good business man. But tearing the locker room apart because you disagree with something is just silly. Maybe he can square off against Layla for the Divas championship.

But thats not whats happening. He didnt tear the locker room apart because he disagreed with something, he tore it apart because he was double crossed. They sat down, and agreed to a match that would put Cena over and make Brock come out looking good, and then they swerved him. To me its no different then what they did to Bret Hart. With these mega main events they put together matches designed for specific reasons that have to be agreed on by everyone. If I was Brock, Id go to Vince and ask him how the fuck hes supposed to trust anything he says from here on out.

Bob Impact

05-01-2012, 11:09 PM

But thats not whats happening. He didnt tear the locker room apart because he disagreed with something, he tore it apart because he was double crossed. They sat down, and agreed to a match that would put Cena over and make Brock come out looking good, and then they swerved him. To me its no different then what they did to Bret Hart. With these mega main events they put together matches designed for specific reasons that have to be agreed on by everyone. If I was Brock, Id go to Vince and ask him how the fuck hes supposed to trust anything he says from here on out.

It's a work.
-- As we've been reporting here on the site, Brock Lesnar did throw a tantrum backstage after Extreme Rules, f4wonline.com is reporting that it was partially a 'work' on the locker room as a way to convince people that Cena going over was the right decision. Lesnar was upset about the finish, but "some, if not most" of the situation was not entirely legitimate.

WWE tried to have word leak out on Monday that Lesnar had quit the company, likely to get the "dirt sheets" reporting it so people would be surprised when Lesnar showed up on RAW. However, by the time that this was going on, it was already out there that Lesnar was at the arena and going to be at RAW.

cougarjake13

05-02-2012, 02:15 AM

We're all beIng worked into a shoot

styckx

05-02-2012, 03:11 AM

wtf does "partially a work" even mean. It's either a work or not a work. It's the same as someone saying "I'm partially gay"..

conman823

05-02-2012, 07:19 AM

I think saying it's a "Partial work" is just covering uP for it leaking out.

If they say it's a work then it's not a problem, and they can pretend all is well.

Why would you "work" the guys in the back? Without a video of it or a mention of this tantrum at RAW what purpose would that work serve?

paulisded

05-02-2012, 07:46 AM

the real questions is why are the twin whores gone...and why was their departure announced on Raw?

cougarjake13

05-02-2012, 08:09 AM

wtf does "partially a work" even mean. It's either a work or not a work. It's the same as someone saying "I'm partially gay"..

I'm guessing that it means Vince and Brock know it's a work but the rest in back dont

cougarjake13

05-02-2012, 08:10 AM

the real questions is why are the twin whores gone...and why was their departure announced on Raw?

Until we see future endeavors I'm guessing it's a work

TripleSkeet

05-02-2012, 10:40 AM

the real questions is why are the twin whores gone...and why was their departure announced on Raw?

Word was they hadnt resigned with the WWE before the PPV. Their contracts are set to expire, Im guessing thats how they are playing it. They dont usually throw out the "future endeavors" line on contracts expiring.

Adolf

05-02-2012, 06:29 PM

i hate to admit it but brock got me back into fukn wrestling

i've seen like 10 matches in the last 22 years but now i'm getting nostalgic

that match was interesting but at the end i was all omg like, wtf lol i woulda lost 6 grand if i bet 4 reelz

ima go watch wrestlemania 3... the whole goddamn thing.:help:

styckx

05-04-2012, 12:43 PM

How did I possibly miss this? Browsing around today stumbled on this. I nearly spit my soda out at 1:35.. Where is this Kane at? Fantastic

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5UKOmobMaDo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cougarjake13

05-04-2012, 12:54 PM

Wow rock was like half his current size

brettmojo

05-04-2012, 02:19 PM

How did I possibly miss this? Browsing around today stumbled on this. I nearly spit my soda out at 1:35.. Where is this Kane at? Fantastic

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5UKOmobMaDo" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>
Yeah some place posted the 40 greatest Rock moments the other day for his birthday... Lillian Garcia and The Rock's strudel FUCKING CLASSIC.

TripleSkeet

05-04-2012, 09:22 PM

styckx

05-07-2012, 02:03 PM

I love CM Punk for this..

CM Punk ‏ @CMPunk
“@EzeeKay: @CMPunk man was meant for woman, and even the thought of homo's make me sick.” Kill yourself.

NickyL0885

05-07-2012, 03:02 PM

I love CM Punk for this..

And this one too:

“@MichaelJones26: @Cmpunk eventually they will find you dead in a hotel overdose on drugs” If by drugs you mean ice cream, correct.

newport king

05-07-2012, 05:15 PM

Really trying to get Cena over having Punk pump him up

styckx

05-07-2012, 05:18 PM

You cold almost hear the groan from here when the crowd figured out it was Lord Tensai Punk would be wrestling.

Why do I get the feeling they paid that heatless idiot a shit ton of money? There is no logical reason that guy should be main eventing RAW..

paulisded

05-07-2012, 05:30 PM

Even without he semi-recent memory of him as Albert, his character is so ridiculously cartoonish.

newport king

05-07-2012, 05:32 PM

Yeah i tend to agree. Maybe hes got pics of vince fucking children. This gimmick isnt and will never be over. He wasnt over as albert either. Oh maybe one week he wont be as obvious putting the pill in his mouth. Id give anything to see tajiri come back. Shit id even settle for taka michinoku than fucking albert.

cougarjake13

05-07-2012, 05:37 PM

There was a moment early in Alberts career where he was legitimate but since then he's been a joke

newport king

05-07-2012, 05:46 PM

There was a moment early in Alberts career where he was legitimate but since then he's been a joke

I mustve missed that weeks RAW

styckx

05-07-2012, 05:50 PM

Holy shit, Kelly Kellys tits are gigantic (ish) now..

cougarjake13

05-07-2012, 05:54 PM

I mustve missed that weeks RAW

It was in his last run before they made him prince Albert and he bolted for Japan

cougarjake13

05-07-2012, 05:55 PM

Holy shit, Kelly Kellys tits are gigantic (ish) now..

1000% yes

And they're lovely

styckx

05-07-2012, 06:19 PM

This show isn't bad, but.. It's... I'm just really fucking bored..

NickyL0885

05-07-2012, 06:30 PM

The dinosaur footprint on Brodus Clay's back looks like a triple headed condom.

newport king

05-07-2012, 06:39 PM

i just nodded off like bubbles from the wire watching this. seems like i missed kelly kellys tits. oh well.

styckx

05-07-2012, 06:42 PM

Holy shit

Kevin

05-07-2012, 06:42 PM

YES YES yES!!

NickyL0885

05-07-2012, 06:43 PM

Interestingly enough, CM Punk tweeted a pic of Paul about 30 minutes ago, saying he was hanging with him.

styckx

05-07-2012, 06:49 PM

This RAW is just.. Anticlimactic.. I mean even Pauly couldn't make it interesting..

NickyL0885

05-07-2012, 06:53 PM

This RAW is just.. Anticlimactic.. I mean even Pauly couldn't make it interesting..

It's apparently being written on the fly. They changed the script like 3 times already today.

styckx

05-07-2012, 07:00 PM

lol. The main event and CM Punk gets 1/2 a jobber entrance and Tensai and Bryan get full jobber entrances.. This show is terrible

Kevin

05-07-2012, 07:06 PM

They can't be serious with this bum. he cant even lift up CM Punk .

He looks ridiculous

styckx

05-07-2012, 07:07 PM

They can't be serious with this bum. he cant even lift up CM Punk .

He looks ridiculous

He needs to suck his teeth more for power.

styckx

05-07-2012, 07:23 PM

lol

http://i50.tinypic.com/24q5pat.jpg

TripleSkeet

05-07-2012, 08:12 PM

Sigh. Where to begin? Styckx was right, just a boring ass show. The crowd sucked a dick from start to finish. They anounce Cenas not there? Silence. They may have gotten 150 people trying to start a Cena chant. Heyman comes out? Silence. The only thing they chanted all night was "What?" the true sign of a dipshit audience.

John Laurenaitis said Brock Cena. He actually called him Brock fucking Cena. SMH.

Punks promo ate shit. It was obviously scripted and not even close to being spontaneous. He mentioned John Cena more tonight in 5 minutes then he has the last 4 months. They really dont get it. NOBODY gives a fuck about this PPV main event.

No Santino = :furious:

Eve is annoying. Its not heel heat, its dumb bitch that should just be used for her tits and ass heat.

Tensai is dogshit.

Funkasaurus is dogshit.

WWE still hasnt learned that when trying to make new superstars, making them cartoon characters hasnt worked since 1988.

If I had to pick 1 town to NEVER bring back someone like Paul Heyman in.....it would be Atlanta. Greensboro wouldve been 2nd. I guess they did it because they knew hed get cheered to death up north? But instead of getting boos he just got indifference by a redneck audience, half of which had no idea who he is.

styckx

05-07-2012, 08:33 PM

I don't understand ANYTHING they're doing right now

Tensai hasn't been over in any shape or form since returning but cleanly pins the two top guys in the company. That's a huge W-T-F.. And he still gets zero reaction.. Because he's a fat white guy being passed off as a japanese wrestling master who spits green fucking mist.. IN 2012.... This is WCW in the early 90s awful.

Your Champion is going into a PPV with a guy who got over huge after losing at WM and... .. ..... There is no fued, no build up, no mic time between them. No exchanges and brian literally gets thrown in on RAW during the final minutes of the show as an after thought and a jobber entrance. The match was just written on a piece of paper and that's about where that stands.

WWE has officially ruined Brocks return in a more clusterfuck fashion than they did Punks return. Just like Punks return it was ok for a week until Triple H interjected himself and it went into so many different directions in two weeks no one gave a shit anymore.

Every thing WWE has done post WM is everything Punks shoot interview was about. Same exact shit and it's clear Punk doesn't have a lot of pull anymore he's just too over w/ the fans and too little of a main even talent pool at this point for Vince to fuck him in the ass.

Adolf

05-07-2012, 11:04 PM

so yeah let me know when brock comes back.. same with killer khan. call me

that kelly kelly chick is ultramega hot holy goddamn christ hubba hubba i wanna cum on her tummy :surrender:

Adolf

05-07-2012, 11:05 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9RQpvKifkY4/T4Uc6y3gw6I/AAAAAAAAB7I/fYSB-aLJc_8/s1600/WWe+Kelly+Kelly+Hot_2.jpg

i'd never stop

brettmojo

05-08-2012, 07:42 AM

Why... WHY didn't they bring Brock AND HEYMAN back at the same time if they were just gonna' toss him on a random Raw a month later? This dumb shit.

Chimee

05-08-2012, 07:45 AM

Why... WHY didn't they bring Brock AND HEYMAN back at the same time if they were just gonna' toss him on a random Raw a month later? This dumb shit.

Because they didn't think to bring Heyman in until last week.

brettmojo

05-08-2012, 07:48 AM

Who didn't know Brock can't cut a promo to save his life? Who? WWE apparently that's who.

TripleSkeet

05-08-2012, 08:58 AM

Im thinking they didnt want Heyman back and thought they could get by with Brock alone. Then saw him and Laurenaitis trying to cut promos together and called Paul E. up 10 minutes later.

styckx

05-08-2012, 12:16 PM

Bringing in Heyman is just the latest sign Vince is desperate as shit. Heyman wasn't really on good terms when he was there and furthered poked WWE with sticks after he left. He really never had anything good to say about his experience there. Vince is doing the whole Dixie Carter big surprise/announcement thing just without announcing it before hand.. Like with TNAs big surprises etc they are good for the initial mark out then a week later it's back to facepalming business as usual.

epo

05-08-2012, 03:03 PM

Why... WHY didn't they bring Brock AND HEYMAN back at the same time if they were just gonna' toss him on a random Raw a month later? This dumb shit.

Don't they have a limited appearance schedule with Brock? Would this fill in the open dates that they don't use Lesnar & yet "keep him on tv"?

styckx

05-08-2012, 07:29 PM

Don't they have a limited appearance schedule with Brock? Would this fill in the open dates that they don't use Lesnar & yet "keep him on tv"?

Yes, but I get where he's coming from. Heymans role in Lesnars initial run was something TripleSkeet keeps hammering on about.. He played his role as a manager PERFECT and 1/2 the reason Brock got over in the first place.. It's a concept Vince has completely and utterly forgotten about. He almost does it with Vickie, but let's be honest she's on the Eddie Guerrero died on Vinces watch payment plan and not because he wants a manager. Kudos to her though for running with it and making her own.. She rules. The two just go hand in hand with each other and obvious since Heyman is on TV getting him to show up wouldn't have been a problem.

My guess: Vince scoffed at the idea and initially probably said "Fuck Heyman.. I'm Vince Fucking McMahon I make the stars!"... A few awful promos and not giving a shit crowds later he magically decided maybe he should save face and call Heyman.

TripleSkeet

05-08-2012, 09:05 PM

Don't they have a limited appearance schedule with Brock? Would this fill in the open dates that they don't use Lesnar & yet "keep him on tv"?

I think thats the plan. The rumor was he has 35 dates.

TripleSkeet

05-08-2012, 09:07 PM

Yes, but I get where he's coming from. Heymans role in Lesnars initial run was something TripleSkeet keeps hammering on about.. He played his role as a manager PERFECT and 1/2 the reason Brock got over in the first place.. It's a concept Vince has completely and utterly forgotten about. He almost does it with Vickie, but let's be honest she's on the Eddie Guerrero died on Vinces watch payment plan and not because he wants a manager. Kudos to her though for running with it and making her own.. She rules. The two just go hand in hand with each other and obvious since Heyman is on TV getting him to show up wouldn't have been a problem.

My guess: Vince scoffed at the idea and initially probably said "Fuck Heyman.. I'm Vince Fucking McMahon I make the stars!"... A few awful promos and not giving a shit crowds later he magically decided maybe he should save face and call Heyman.

What I dont get is they sign tons of old wrestlers to "Legends contracts". The great managers were usually old wrestlers that still wanted to work and could talk. Albano, Blassie, Valiant, Heenan, etc. So they obviously use some of these old timers as agents and matchmakers, why not use some of the others as managers?

Also, what happened to Armando Essssssssttttttrrrrrrada??? I loved that guy.

Kevin

05-08-2012, 09:17 PM

What I dont get is they sign tons of old wrestlers to "Legends contracts". The great managers were usually old wrestlers that still wanted to work and could talk. Albano, Blassie, Valiant, Heenan, etc. So they obviously use some of these old timers as agents and matchmakers, why not use some of the others as managers?

Also, what happened to Armando Essssssssttttttrrrrrrada??? I loved that guy.

That and the tag teams.

Thats how stars were made.

Mangers and tag teams.

Thats why they can't develop anyone.

Oh and stables.

TripleSkeet

05-08-2012, 09:27 PM

That and the tag teams.

Thats how stars were made.

Mangers and tag teams.

Thats why they can't develop anyone.

Oh and stables.

They just ignore the tag teams anymore. Either that or just throw random guys together like Truth and Kingston. They need to make real tag teams again. Matching outfits, a team name, double team moves, etc. And let the stars grow from that. Maybe when some of the older guys like Big Show and Kane that get TV time EVERY week with NOTHING of interest going with it retire they can start giving them time again.

styckx

05-09-2012, 05:25 AM

:lol: WWE can't even get their own merchandise right.

http://i50.tinypic.com/t9dz4l.jpg

Chimee

05-09-2012, 07:20 AM

They just ignore the tag teams anymore. Either that or just throw random guys together like Truth and Kingston. They need to make real tag teams again. Matching outfits, a team name, double team moves, etc. And let the stars grow from that. Maybe when some of the older guys like Big Show and Kane that get TV time EVERY week with NOTHING of interest going with it retire they can start giving them time again.

The Usos would be the perfect champions, but they work for less than a minute once a month on Smackdown.

TripleSkeet

05-09-2012, 08:20 AM

The Usos would be the perfect champions, but they work for less than a minute once a month on Smackdown.

I liked their gimmick but after a month the first thing they did was take away Snukas daughter and try to make her a star. Why the fucking rush? Keep them together for like a year and get them over as a group before trying that shit.

conman823

05-09-2012, 11:04 AM

Crowd was dead also. Although the show was dead too in fairness.

I can emphasize these points enough:
Have about 5 less PPVs a year
And if you are goin to insist on 37 PPV a year then BUILD A MID CARD AND TAG DIVISION
Get HHH out of every hot storyline going. Don't forget he interjected himself in Punks hot angle last summer.

They blew such a load between WM and Extreme Rules with Brock/Cena that this week u can feel the void of storyline creativity.

RingWraith

05-09-2012, 06:07 PM

They blew such a load between WM and Extreme Rules with Brock/Cena that this week u can feel the void of storyline creativity.

Agreed!! I'm still amazed that WWE would give that matchup away so soon. I'd figured that type of matchup would be saved for Summerslam or Survivor Series.

styckx

05-09-2012, 06:28 PM

Yeah.. HHH.. Soon as Brock came back I think everyone felt their stomach grumbling telling them HHH will somehow find his way into this angle.. I'm just waiting for Nash to be brought into it for the ultimate death blow.

styckx

05-10-2012, 11:26 AM

Shits about to get real: http://blogs.herald.com/scene_in_the_tropics/2012/05/wwe-superstar-jon-cena-files-for-divorce-wife-hires-miami-attorney.html

TripleSkeet

05-10-2012, 11:33 AM

Shits about to get real: http://blogs.herald.com/scene_in_the_tropics/2012/05/wwe-superstar-jon-cena-files-for-divorce-wife-hires-miami-attorney.html

I guess he really does cheat on his wife. That being said, what the fuck is the point of a prenup if lawyers can basically ignore it and go for everything the guy makes? How the fuck is this woman entitled to 70% of his fucking assets?????

cougarjake13

05-10-2012, 12:00 PM

Yeh I nvr understood why if there's a prenup that anything other then following it happens

NickyL0885

05-10-2012, 07:14 PM

I guess he really does cheat on his wife. That being said, what the fuck is the point of a prenup if lawyers can basically ignore it and go for everything the guy makes? How the fuck is this woman entitled to 70% of his fucking assets?????

Assuming or confirming? I mean, don't get me wrong, if I was around the Divas like he is, I may break down too and bend a few over. Not that I condone cheating, of course.

TripleSkeet

05-10-2012, 07:17 PM

Assuming or confirming? I mean, don't get me wrong, if I was around the Divas like he is, I may break down too and bend a few over. Not that I condone cheating, of course.

Around Wrestlemania there were a few episodes of Raw where people were holding up signs that said "Cena Cheats On His Wife".

No idea if its true.

Kevin

05-10-2012, 08:05 PM

I guarandamntee he banged the hell out of Eve at least a few times. Probably Kelly too.

NickyL0885

05-10-2012, 08:07 PM

I guarandamntee he banged the hell out of Eve at least a few times. Probably Kelly too.

i heard Kelly gets around.

Kevin

05-10-2012, 08:15 PM

i heard Kelly gets around.

Of course she does. She seems as dumb as a box of rocks.

Its her only asset!

epo

05-10-2012, 08:33 PM

Assuming or confirming? I mean, don't get me wrong, if I was around the Divas like he is, I may break down too and bend a few over. Not that I condone cheating, of course.

200 nights a year on the road? I'm sure he's had his share of rats.

newport king

05-11-2012, 03:01 AM

Around Wrestlemania there were a few episodes of Raw where people were holding up signs that said "Cena Cheats On His Wife".

No idea if its true.

I noticed this too. Even during the Foley, This is Your Life segment, someone can be heard close to a mic, shouting "whyd you cheat on your wife"

The report says HE filed for divorce though. Unless i read it wrong.

Chimee

05-11-2012, 08:19 AM

I thought that was because they did the whole awkward kissing Eve thing, then two weeks later they're pointing out that his wife is in the front row.

newport king

05-11-2012, 09:38 AM

The chants were before the Eve heel turn

Bob Impact

05-11-2012, 09:59 AM

Shits about to get real: http://blogs.herald.com/scene_in_the_tropics/2012/05/wwe-superstar-jon-cena-files-for-divorce-wife-hires-miami-attorney.html

Very first comment:
Can Cena overcome the odds?
Posted by: Vince | May 10, 2012 at 03:12 PM

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Tenbatsuzen

05-12-2012, 01:04 PM

I noticed this too. Even during the Foley, This is Your Life segment, someone can be heard close to a mic, shouting "whyd you cheat on your wife"

The report says HE filed for divorce though. Unless i read it wrong.

It's possible that she was cheating too. Or the relationship was toxic on both sides. Or maybe the chick is nuts.

Someone who is cheating AND wants a divorce realizes the relationship is broken.

Of course... if this turns out that Cena's a Tiger Woods-like guy behind the scenes. Oh boy. You're gonna get your heel turn IN FUCKING SPADES.

cougarjake13

05-12-2012, 02:18 PM

It's possible that she was cheating too. Or the relationship was toxic on both sides. Or maybe the chick is nuts.

Someone who is cheating AND wants a divorce realizes the relationship is broken.

Of course... if this turns out that Cena's a Tiger Woods-like guy behind the scenes. Oh boy. You're gonna get your heel turn IN FUCKING SPADES.

i dont care how it happens but it needs to happen ( cena heel turn )

conman823

05-12-2012, 04:14 PM

The pre-nup should hold, but that doesn't mean a lawyer isn't going to TRY.

They might even give her X amount just to sign the fucking papers and go away.

cougarjake13

05-12-2012, 06:23 PM

The pre-nup should hold, but that doesn't mean a lawyer isn't going to TRY.

They might even give her X amount just to sign the fucking papers and go away.

Not if she goes the Linda hogan route and tries o claim she had a band in his success

MIKEYDAKEN

05-12-2012, 06:27 PM

Not if she goes the Linda hogan route and tries o claim she had a band in his success

she already is. linda was on twitter yesterday saying that they recently met through her scumbag lawyer and she had all kinds of tips for her.

cougarjake13

05-12-2012, 06:31 PM

she already is. linda was on twitter yesterday saying that they recently met through her scumbag lawyer and she had all kinds of tips for her.

Fucking cunts

TripleSkeet

05-12-2012, 07:28 PM

she already is. linda was on twitter yesterday saying that they recently met through her scumbag lawyer and she had all kinds of tips for her.

I just dont get how they can blatantly admit they are finding ways to steal their husbands earnings and the court system just fucking allows it.

conman823

05-12-2012, 10:56 PM

TripleSkeet

05-13-2012, 07:44 AM

Unfortunately Linda had a better case cause she was with Hulk when he was balls ass broke. She was accostum to a certain lifestyle etc.

I think Cenas wife's only been with him a few years AND signed a pre nup so I don't think she's gonna go as far as Linda did.

Yea, I can see that because they were married before he was anybody. But didnt I read she was getting 70% of his money? How is that fair? 50%? Fine. His kids are both over 18, theres no need for child support, how can they take 70% of what a man makes and just give it to some bitch because they used to be married? Thats ridiculous.

Cena was already rich and famouse before they got married, but they were boyfriend and girlfriend since he was in high school...will that count?

cougarjake13

05-13-2012, 08:13 AM

Yea, I can see that because they were married before he was anybody. But didnt I read she was getting 70% of his money? How is that fair? 50%? Fine. His kids are both over 18, theres no need for child support, how can they take 70% of what a man makes and just give it to some bitch because they used to be married? Thats ridiculous.

Cena was already rich and famouse before they got married, but they were boyfriend and girlfriend since he was in high school...will that count?

they were high school sweathearts and shes been with him like 13 years so shes been around since before he got over

Kevin

05-13-2012, 09:33 AM

He should sue the bitch (Linda) for being a forgetful lazy whore for not telling Hulk that the Geroge Forman grill people called him but she didn't give him the messege.

They thought he wasn't interested and called Forman.

MIKEYDAKEN

05-13-2012, 09:34 AM

they were high school sweathearts and shes been with him like 13 years so shes been around since before he got over

they are going for the "she supported him when no one else was" act even though in any interview his friends and family all had his back to be a wrestler.

cougarjake13

05-13-2012, 09:46 AM

they are going for the "she supported him when no one else was" act even though in any interview his friends and family all had his back to be a wrestler.

even if thats true and lets say that she supported them financially i dont see how that entitles her or any woman to half or more of something she had very lil to do with

TripleSkeet

05-14-2012, 08:30 AM

they were high school sweathearts and shes been with him like 13 years so shes been around since before he got over

So now even dating counts? I thought she had to be married to be entitled to anything, theyve been married 3 years. Now it goes all the way back to when they started going out? Ridiculous.

Apparently saying "I think youve got what it takes to be a wrestler" is worth more money than actually doing the work to get there.

cougarjake13

05-14-2012, 09:59 AM

The whole thing is an outdated concept
Back when women didn't work they were fucked if they got divorced
we don't live in that world anymore

Chimee

05-14-2012, 11:49 AM

It's fucking depressing that Hogan was the one who destroyed his body and can now barely walk and his wife took most of his shit and he'll spend the rest of his days shelling Rent-A-Center shit.

TripleSkeet

05-14-2012, 12:19 PM

The whole thing is an outdated concept
Back when women didn't work they were fucked if they got divorced
we don't live in that world anymore

I love that its usually the ones that pound their chest on how strong they are and how they dont need a man that usually go after everything there mans got.

cougarjake13

05-14-2012, 12:32 PM

Even if she came up with some idea that helped cena take off she suldnt get half

Fuckin lawyers man

Dirtbag

05-14-2012, 01:35 PM

It's fucking depressing that Hogan was the one who destroyed his body and can now barely walk and his wife took most of his shit and he'll spend the rest of his days shelling Rent-A-Center shit.

It's hard to believe that after all the bullshit he's pulled over 30 years in the business there's something that can actually make me feel bad for him.

Kevin

05-14-2012, 05:54 PM

Another brutal raw thus far.

This what you get when HHH keeps sticking his big nose in ever angle and you sign people who do not even fucking want to work once a week like Lesner.

Awful.

newport king

05-14-2012, 05:57 PM

Hockey is on

Kevin

05-14-2012, 06:00 PM

Hockey is on

Ive been flipping three ways to that the Yankees and this piece of shit show.

Kevin

05-14-2012, 06:04 PM

That may have been the worst choke slam in the history of any slam or choke ever.

newport king

05-14-2012, 06:10 PM

I just flipped. Laurinaitis is on. Again. You know what, im fucking done with this shit. My kids even lost interest.

newport king

05-14-2012, 06:16 PM

Id honestly love to know, who keeps putting laurinaitis on tv. Why is this a good idea? He cant talk. At all.

paulisded

05-14-2012, 06:31 PM

Wow, I actually saw Kofi make contact. Usually, all of his mows miss by at least 8 inches.

newport king

05-14-2012, 06:42 PM

If Randy Orton climbed into the ring and sucked his opponent off before each match, it'd be less gay than that prematch pose on the turnbuckle.

paulisded

05-14-2012, 07:08 PM

Jesus, this is painful to endure.

newport king

05-14-2012, 07:13 PM

Ok so Big Show comes down big heel turn and WMD's Cena for the win. Awesome.

Kevin

05-14-2012, 07:14 PM

In gunna predict the predictable ending of the match right now.

Brock Lesner "quit" so he is no longer a WWE superstar so he could interfere...

Edit....

I see your way too Newport...

newport king

05-14-2012, 07:15 PM

Its obviously gonna be Brock or Show

conman823

05-14-2012, 08:05 PM

My DVR glitched, in all seriousness, and didn't tape RAW. I read the report on 411mania and I'm glad it didn't

styckx

05-14-2012, 08:24 PM

WWE managed to make RAW worse than last week.

There wasn't one redeeming entertaining thing about that.. Cenas promo at the end was really really really really really really bad..

RECAP RECAP RECAP RECAP RECAP

RECAP FROM 5 MINUTES AGO

RECAP RECAP RECAP RECAP

RECAP RECAP RECAP

That was a go home show.. That was supposed to sell PPV tickets and... I have no idea wtf I even watched..

conman823

05-14-2012, 08:40 PM

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/238214/Matches-Revealed-for-WWE-No-Way-Out-(SPOILERS).htm

So that link says the Laurinitis/ Cena fued will continue on the No Way Out PPV.

I'm done.

TripleSkeet

05-14-2012, 08:57 PM

Are they TRYING to get people to stop watching? At this point, their ineptitude is looking like WCW obvious.

Last week, Punk sucking Cenas dick trying to get him over, this week HHH opens the show doing the same thing. Even Paul E. cant save this lame storyline. "Im going to sue you!" What the fuck is wrong with their creative writers?

Big Show on his knees and crying? SIGH Andre the Giant is rolling over in his grave right now.

Has Punk main evented one PPV since hes became champion? I cant believe his match with Bryan is going to go on BEFORE Cena / Big Gay Johnny.

Just a horrendous show from top to bottom. Again the crowd sucked a dick. Hayseeds in Pittsburgh. Not only do they chant WHAT? but they dont even let Cena get his jokes out. Even when he fucking told them "Wait til I finish the whole thing" they still trampled it like a virgin cumming in his pants the first time a girl grabs his dick.

Adolf

05-16-2012, 01:41 PM

sooo.... yeah i watch youtube vids to keep up on this big lesnar return and ahhh......... yeah, this is fukn gay

i expected to see a wild undefeated streak thing or whatever but ahhhhhhh.... it's just dumb instead :huh: wwe is pretty fkn retarded

CYYYFYYY

05-16-2012, 04:20 PM

I just flipped. Laurinaitis is on. Again. You know what, im fucking done with this shit. My kids even lost interest.

Finally someone who says they are fed up and will stop watching. Lets see if it sticks or will it be I read this and that. Stop completely if you are fed up

newport king

05-16-2012, 05:44 PM

Ill check on occasion. But im done ever expecting this to get good.

TjM

05-17-2012, 04:55 AM

What the hell is the point of a "restrictive pre-nup" then

- With the news of John Cena's divorce becoming public last week, there are those who believe it's going to get ugly - and ugly fast. John Cena's wife signed a very restrictive prenuptial agreement back in 2009 and recently turned down a financial settlement offer.

This is just speculation, but don't be shocked to see Cena's ex to "make some noise" (talking to TMZ, writing a tell-all book) in hopes of getting paid off to go away.

cougarjake13

05-17-2012, 05:38 AM

My guess is that she knows she's only getting whatever that prenup says and is basically gonna blackmail and strong arm him for more

conman823

05-17-2012, 08:23 AM

What the prenup probably doesn't cover is a non disclosure agreement & a keep your twat mouth shut clause which will have to be bought with millions.

conman823

05-17-2012, 08:26 AM

Finally someone who says they are fed up and will stop watching. Lets see if it sticks or will it be I read this and that. Stop completely if you are fed up

If you're a true fan you can't stop completely. I cut back drastically from '05 till early '10 so much so that I didn't know any story lines or a lot of the newer faces. Still I would read the dirt sheets etc and TNA was at least watchable at that time. This time I guess it will be watching ROH on my computer filling the gaps.

Basically back then I was sick of HHH as eternal champion and I wasn't buying Orton and Cenas rise to main event status.

TripleSkeet

05-17-2012, 09:22 AM

What the prenup probably doesn't cover is a non disclosure agreement & a keep your twat mouth shut clause which will have to be bought with millions.

Fuck that. If I was him Id say go ahead and talk. Look at Hogans wife. NOBODY takes her seriously. She didnt hurt his marketability at all. Id be like "Heres your settlement, take it, and go write a book or whatever and try to make as much as you can."

Whatever she says can be disputed later when he decides to write his own book.

newport king

05-17-2012, 09:27 AM

He seems like a clean dude, but im sure steroid allegations would hurt

cougarjake13

05-17-2012, 11:25 AM

He seems like a clean dude, but im sure steroid allegations would hurt

Didn't hurt hogan

TripleSkeet

05-17-2012, 11:32 AM

He seems like a clean dude, but im sure steroid allegations would hurt

Fans dont care about steroids in wrestling. Why should they? Nobody gives a shit when actors like Ryan Reynolds and Chris Evans juice up for movie roles. Not too much "integrity" to protect in a sport where you can win by hitting your opponent with a chair when the refs not looking.

cougarjake13

05-17-2012, 11:44 AM

Fans dont care about steroids in wrestling. Why should they? Nobody gives a shit when actors like Ryan Reynolds and Chris Evans juice up for movie roles. Not too much "integrity" to protect in a sport where you can win by hitting your opponent with a chair when the refs not looking.

I don't even think hogan got much flack for the steroids thing other then fhe fact he was preaching about vitamins and prayers and he wasn't living his talk and his connection with kids much like cena

Chimee

05-17-2012, 12:18 PM

Fans dont care about steroids in wrestling. Why should they? Nobody gives a shit when actors like Ryan Reynolds and Chris Evans juice up for movie roles. Not too much "integrity" to protect in a sport where you can win by hitting your opponent with a chair when the refs not looking.

The whole reason that Vince started calling it "sports entertainment" was to get away from athletic commissions governing things like steroid use, but now everyone is so concerned with how the company looks that they have to pretend they've cracked down on that shit even if wrestling is no different from television stunt work.

newport king

05-17-2012, 01:08 PM

Just announce RAW will now be a 3hr show. They cant even fill 2 hours. I hope it'll be like old Nitro when the midcarders and lucha guys stole the show.

cougarjake13

05-17-2012, 02:47 PM

Just announce RAW will now be a 3hr show. They cant even fill 2 hours. I hope it'll be like old Nitro when the midcarders and lucha guys stole the show.

and get rid of smackdown ?

id be fine with that but i doubt theyll do it

newport king

05-17-2012, 03:34 PM

id be so pissed if i made it to WWE and got put on Smackdown. Theres some talent on that show (Rhodes, Bryan and i hate to admit it, Orton) too bad no one would know.

cougarjake13

05-17-2012, 04:31 PM

id be so pissed if i made it to WWE and got put on Smackdown. Theres some talent on that show (Rhodes, Bryan and i hate to admit it, Orton) too bad no one would know.

normally yeh id agree but theyve been doing supershows for awhile and i havent watched smackdown so i dont know who shows up there but unlike past years theres been no draft after mania so maybe everybody shows up onb both shows

conman823

05-17-2012, 10:17 PM

Just announce RAW will now be a 3hr show. They cant even fill 2 hours. I hope it'll be like old Nitro when the midcarders and lucha guys stole the show.

It would be nice if the 3 hours help a mid card grow. Even when 2 guys are working hard in a match Cole and King are babbling on about Cena/Johnny Ace or Brock Lesner.

How about putting over the guys working in the ring more then calling near falls and the occasional "Woah!" from the King?

Here's a quick months worth of mid card building. IC title number one contenders torny with 3 weeks of qualifiers and the fourth week the title match happens. If they invested time in the story and had the announcers put it over the title defense could main event that 4th RAW and the fans would care!

Oh wait instead it will be Cena talking for 20 mins and lord tensai walking like a ninja turtle. Kill me.

Adolf

05-19-2012, 11:26 PM

yeah totally

NickyL0885

05-20-2012, 09:11 PM

Ok so Big Show comes down big heel turn and WMD's Cena for the win. Awesome.

CALLED! You Win!

Kevin

05-20-2012, 10:42 PM

CALLED! You Win!

Either Brock or Big Show were the choices.

Christ sometimes I think Stephs and HHH kids are writing this shit.

cougarjake13

05-21-2012, 01:58 AM

Shocked they gave Christian the IC title

newport king

05-21-2012, 03:24 AM

Cougar, and Nicky sounds like u watched, how was the Punk/Bryan match?

styckx

05-21-2012, 07:46 AM

That PPV was awful except the Punk/Bryan and Christian match.

newport king

05-21-2012, 07:55 AM

So in other words the guys that can actually work, worked. Did Christian or Cody do a face turn?

cougarjake13

05-21-2012, 03:30 PM

So in other words the guys that can actually work, worked. Did Christian or Cody do a face turn?

Christian

Cody s not gonna turn face and lose title same night

Kevin

05-21-2012, 05:02 PM

Do they really think we are supposed to buy this everyone is shocked by the Big Show thing?

MIKEYDAKEN

05-21-2012, 05:06 PM

Do they really think we are supposed to buy this everyone is shocked by the Big Show thing?

cena is a great actor!

Kevin

05-21-2012, 05:16 PM

This is beyond stupid and very gay.

NickyL0885

05-21-2012, 05:19 PM

Cena with the Law and Order joke was funny, I gotta admit.

Kevin

05-21-2012, 05:22 PM

Cena with the Law and Order joke was funny, I gotta admit.

If they keep him pissed off and just kicking ass It would be great but they wont.

Kevin

05-21-2012, 05:23 PM

And what Dr tells you you have probable anything?

What year are we in 1955?

NickyL0885

05-21-2012, 05:23 PM

If they keep him pissed off and just kicking ass It would be great but they wont.

Agreed. Maybe they're bringing his divorce into his character? More pissed off and such.

NickyL0885

05-21-2012, 05:27 PM

Wow. They wasted 30 minutes on that. I guess we know how they will fill a 3 hour RAW.

styckx

05-21-2012, 05:27 PM

25 minutes of Cena only to be booked in the main even too... :wallbash:

paulisded

05-21-2012, 05:29 PM

Mr. Jennifer Hudson needed just a bit more oil covering his body. Ooof.

Kevin

05-21-2012, 05:34 PM

Santino always brings the funny.

styckx

05-21-2012, 05:36 PM

WWE promotes itself more than its belts or talent.

newport king

05-21-2012, 05:48 PM

I watched the majority of the 2nd period of the hockey game, Cena was in the ring the whole time. The only thing i like about it is i dig Eve's new look.

styckx

05-21-2012, 05:49 PM

Commercialism commercials commercials commercials.

Can't wait for RAW to go full Nitro.. 3hrs of this shit is going to be unbearable just like it was with Nitro.

Kevin

05-21-2012, 05:50 PM

Commercialism commercials commercials commercials.

Can't wait for RAW to go full Nitro.. 3hrs of this shit is going to be unbearable just like it was with Nitro.

All its missing is the limos.

newport king

05-21-2012, 05:50 PM

And i jumped on ticketmaster to check out tix for No Way Out. I have my choice of $500 floor seats, and then the next available are the $35 obstructed views. Awesome.

newport king

05-21-2012, 05:52 PM

Jericho has a worse chest than Flair at this point

Kevin

05-21-2012, 05:53 PM

Jericho has a worse chest than Flair at this point

Its gunna be worse when he gets old.

styckx

05-21-2012, 05:53 PM

Did I miss when TNA went to Monday nights on USA? This is fucking worse than the last two RAWs combined and they were really god damn awful too.

styckx

05-21-2012, 05:56 PM

Jericho has a worse chest than Flair at this point

He's only a 1/10 on the Iggy Pop scale.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__XCWUd8FFjQ/TTnISlggVUI/AAAAAAAAMd4/S_zKuu_vCI8/s1600/IGGYPOP.PNG

newport king

05-21-2012, 06:03 PM

Btw, if Laurinaitis hired show "last SATURDAY" like he said (before the ppv), wouldnt he be a WWE superstar, thus costing Laurinaitis his job? Who fuckin writes this shit

Kevin

05-21-2012, 06:16 PM

uhhhhhhh

WTF was that?

newport king

05-21-2012, 06:23 PM

Jinder Mahal is the indian Del Rio

conman823

05-21-2012, 06:41 PM

Btw, if Laurinaitis hired show "last SATURDAY" like he said (before the ppv), wouldnt he be a WWE superstar, thus costing Laurinaitis his job? Who fuckin writes this shit

That's what I said.

newport king

05-21-2012, 06:44 PM

Beth Phoenix sells moves as good as Ultimate Warrior

Kevin

05-21-2012, 06:45 PM

Its Ninja turtle time!

newport king

05-21-2012, 06:45 PM

Hey Dolph gets to mainevent a RAW. Too bad hes got 2 fucking duds with him.

newport king

05-21-2012, 06:49 PM

If i was asian id find Tensai's music offensive. Im convinced hes got pictures of him and Test dp'ing Steph back in the day. What the fuck is with the push this guy is getting. They're just forcing him on us. Its like wrestlerape

newport king

05-21-2012, 06:53 PM

Whens the last time CM Punk mainevented a RAW? Its been at least before the Rock came back. Tensai has been out here like 3 weeks in a row

Kevin

05-21-2012, 07:03 PM

And now its officially WCW.

styckx

05-21-2012, 07:05 PM

I'm not imagining things right.. The show is really just getting worse?

Of two hours tonight 45 minutes was spent on something involving John Cena..

paulisded

05-21-2012, 07:11 PM

I'm not imagining things right.. The show is really just getting worse?

Of two hours tonight 45 minutes was spent on something involving John Cena..

You're not imagining anything. It really was that bad.

The final match was even more horrendous that I could have ever guessed. Way too many hold moves, way too much time spent tagging back and forth in the corner. When Cena was FINALLY tagged in, we got two moves and then a dive into the lumberjacks. The least they could have done was have the locker room empty out shortly before all that happened.

styckx

05-21-2012, 07:25 PM

Kevin

05-21-2012, 07:33 PM

As Kevin said.. It's officially WCW.

3hr RAWs.. That was the beginning of the end for WCW

WCW: Opened up with 25 minutes of NWO crap that setup a NWO match for the main event that ALWAYS ended in a battle royal clusterfuck for no reason. Replace NWO w/ Cena and John.

I also like how they dropped all that money on Brock and he's practically forgotten about already.

I knew Brock wouldn't work from the start.

You can't build sustainable feuds with a guy that won't even work 1 fucking day a week.

Just a waste of money.

And Laranitus is just awful.

He can't even string a sentence together without stumbling.

brettmojo

05-21-2012, 08:21 PM

What a choice on Monday night... I don't know what was more painful to watch RAW or the Yankees.

cougarjake13

05-22-2012, 03:19 AM

What a choice on Monday night... I don't know what was more painful to watch RAW or the Yankees.

Raw is worse because at least you know the Yankees at some point will be good

conman823

05-22-2012, 04:22 PM

This summary from The Score.com WWE Blog sums it up best i feel:

John Cena is pretty hard to like, even on a good day.

Last night was not a good day for John Cena.

WWE was in full on liquid paper mode on Monday night, whiting out Sunday’s plot holes all over the place. John Cena was charged with the duty of circumnavigating the WWE Universe around this story.
Sometimes Cena comes out for these interviews and resembles an actual human being who was wronged. It’s rare, but it happens. This was not one of those. This interview was very much John Cena, the Ce-Nation leader and face of the PG WWE doing “his thing”. Whatever that is.
Things we learned this Monday’s ten-minute Johnologue:
1 If you pointed out that John Cena should have wasted less time at Over the Limit and just beaten John Laurinaitis, you’re wrong! Cena’s logic was that Big Show would have attacked him no matter what, so it didn’t matter what Cena did in the match. Even the numerous times that Cena had Ace in his finishing hold and just let go, with Big Show nowhere to be found. Those don’t count.
2 If you pointed out that Big Show and Laurinaitis had a deal made before Sunday and therefore Biggie should have been fired, you’re wrong again! Apparently, the two parties only had a verbal agreement, which means Big Show technically was not on the payroll. As the story goes, Show physically resigned a contract as soon as the Ace/Cena match was over Sunday night.
90% sure someone could get Biggie fired again if they really wanted to challenge this thing in a court of law. Actually, screw it, let’s just scrap the physical WWE Ring and air the new third hour of Monday Night Raw on Court TV. Between this and the Lesnar storyline, we may as well.
I think longtime fans would agree that if you need to explain your main event to people the next day, you didn’t create an effective sports entertainment program the night before.
I wish some of the ideas on display in this interview were communicated a little more clearly during the actual match they referenced.

Also I love the term: "Johnologue"

newport king

05-22-2012, 04:41 PM

I still giggle like an idiot at Bork Laser

styckx

05-23-2012, 07:06 PM

Give this a chance.. It's actually not bad at all and the chorus is actually sort of catchy.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JZLr4rh8zrc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cougarjake13

05-24-2012, 03:04 AM

Video and song pretty cool

Chick is oddly bangable

Kevin

05-24-2012, 07:09 AM

Video and song pretty cool

Chick is oddly bangable

YES!

styckx

05-24-2012, 06:06 PM

On Impact tonight there was two gigantic YES! chants during an in ring segment. It was loud and clear as day and hilarious. YES! YES! YES!

styckx

05-24-2012, 09:41 PM

Jericho suspended for stomping on the Brazilian flag (to get heat) in Brazil and almost getting arrested for it.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/jericho-brazil

NickyL0885

05-25-2012, 01:11 AM

Jericho suspended for stomping on the Brazilian flag (to get heat) in Brazil and almost getting arrested for it.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/jericho-brazil

That's fucking stupid. It''s not like he lit it on fire. Almost getting arrested for it? Jeez. Thank god I never want to go to Brazil. Probably get shot in a favela anyways.

conman823

05-25-2012, 10:20 AM

I'm gonna say that his suspension is a work for the upcoming week. I can't believe he's suspended "indefinitely" for something that is just not a big deal. He didn't burn it our cover it with the bodies
of 12 year old hookers.

If it isn't a work, then way to go WWE take one of your biggest draws off TV and house shows for a trivial PC driven non-event. I'm sure Jerichos got a bank load of money and is sitting on a beach somewhere not caring. Way to punish him.

Chimee

05-25-2012, 12:27 PM

cougarjake13

05-25-2012, 12:35 PM

Ud think these guys wuld learn from jbl's nazi mistake

conman823

05-25-2012, 01:12 PM

It might effect his fozzy touring, I think they do shows down there

styckx

05-26-2012, 04:53 AM

Here are those YES! chants from Impact.

That's sooo bad for TNA.. lol

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZtMzCb4I8aA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

TripleSkeet

05-26-2012, 06:34 PM

Just got back from vaca, still havent watched last weeks Raw. Contemplating just deleting it before I make myself annoyed.

Also, Brock couldve worked out just fine with his limited dates. People only care about Raw and PPVs anyway. Nobody gives a fuck about house shows. I gave a perfectly good and sense making angle that couldve worked for the entire summer, saved him 9 more dates for the rest of this year, and still had the dates saved to build his angle for Mania. Dont blame Brock, the WWE has the talent roster, they just arent smart enough to do anything with it.

Adolf

05-26-2012, 09:14 PM

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styckx

05-26-2012, 09:19 PM

Brock Lesnar shown ringside at UFC 146 tonight

Post Fight Presser

Journalist joked with Dana about Brock at ring side and it's funny because he was never at fights before even when he worked for them.

Journalist asks Dana "Is there a reason he was here?"

Dana: Yes

Journalists asks if it's possible he may be coming back

Dana: It's possible

Later journalist mentions its neat about Brock and takes a jab at WWE by saying "Doesn't look like he's doing much over there on PPV"

conman823

05-27-2012, 11:11 AM

Um, wow, so Dana White is helping Lesner work the marks?

Unless that contract of limited dates includes a clause for Lesner to appear on rival PPVs then I wouldn't put too much stock in this.

Even after WM 29, he would need training before his first UFC match back.

cougarjake13

05-27-2012, 02:56 PM

Maybe Brock nvr signed

Or he did but for real laurinatis put stuff in it that trips n Vince didn't approve and that whole on air segment with trips n Brock was legit

Kevin

05-27-2012, 03:37 PM

Maybe Brock nvr signed

Or he did but for real laurinatis put stuff in it that trips n Vince didn't approve and that whole on air segment with trips n Brock was legit

Or he is just a lazy bum who stole 5mil dollars from stupid Vince to not even work 1 day a week.

Where can i get that gig?

cougarjake13

05-27-2012, 03:49 PM

Or he is just a lazy bum who stole 5mil dollars from stupid Vince to not even work 1 day a week.

Where can i get that gig?

I'm sure somewhere in there it says a minimum number of appearances and I think he's only been on like 2 or 3 Raws and a ppv

TripleSkeet

05-27-2012, 04:39 PM

Or he is just a lazy bum who stole 5mil dollars from stupid Vince to not even work 1 day a week.

Where can i get that gig?

He signed for 35 dates. To be honest, thats all a guy of his caliber should be used for. At most they would need him 67 dates. Thats every single Raw and PPV, which really isnt necessary. If Im a Brock Lesnar, the days of me working house shows are OVER.

Its not being lazy, its recognizing that youve passed the part where you need to kill yourself to get over. The biggest problem that former WWE stars have with them is their schedule. Its grueling. And it took about 30 wrestler deaths before they even lightened it up to what it is now. Once youve made it to the status of a guy like HBK or The Rock or Brock Lesnar, you save your health and your performances for when it counts, you dont waste them on house shows that only 6000 hayseeds will ever see.

Kevin

05-27-2012, 04:50 PM

He signed for 35 dates. To be honest, thats all a guy of his caliber should be used for. At most they would need him 67 dates. Thats every single Raw and PPV, which really isnt necessary. If Im a Brock Lesnar, the days of me working house shows are OVER.

Its not being lazy, its recognizing that youve passed the part where you need to kill yourself to get over. The biggest problem that former WWE stars have with them is their schedule. Its grueling. And it took about 30 wrestler deaths before they even lightened it up to what it is now. Once youve made it to the status of a guy like HBK or The Rock or Brock Lesnar, you save your health and your performances for when it counts, you dont waste them on house shows that only 6000 hayseeds will ever see.

I do not expect him to do house shows, but how hard is it to do a segment or two once a goddamn week on Raw?

TripleSkeet

05-27-2012, 09:04 PM

I do not expect him to do house shows, but how hard is it to do a segment or two once a goddamn week on Raw?

35 dates is enough to use him to build up and finish 7 PPVs. Thats more then enough. You cant fault him if the WWE isnt using those dates right.

I watched Raw tonight and felt like I went back in time. The 5 minutes Santino was on the show was the best part of the entire Raw.

styckx

05-27-2012, 11:14 PM

35 dates is enough to use him to build up and finish 7 PPVs. Thats more then enough. You cant fault him if the WWE isnt using those dates right.

I watched Raw tonight and felt like I went back in time. The 5 minutes Santino was on the show was the best part of the entire Raw.

Yep.. 2012 is shaping up to be one of the most dull, boring, and horrible years since the PG era began. There is literally zero direction with anything whatsoever. It's just brutal to watch.

Fallon

05-28-2012, 08:48 AM

I pretty much fast forward through Raw now except for Punk, Bryan and Santino and even Swagger is ruining Ziggler matches.

conman823

05-28-2012, 09:52 AM

Kevin

05-28-2012, 10:20 AM

TripleSkeet

05-28-2012, 02:03 PM

How about a little less "storytelling" and "twitter" and more action and in ring work?

This whole trying to recreate the McMahon/Austin fued is pathetic. I hope the buy rate for over the limit was low. If anyone bought that shit PPV then there is really is no real wrestling fans anymore.

3 PPVs in a two month span is rediculous over kill.

How can you try and remake McMahon / Austin when the wrestler is known for being the ultimate company man??? Hes the fucking anti-Austin. Everything Steve Austin did as a performer, John Cena does the complete opposite. Putting him in a feud against managenment is just dumb right off the bat.

cougarjake13

05-28-2012, 03:33 PM

When does the 3 hour debacle start?

Kevin

05-28-2012, 03:40 PM

When does the 3 hour debacle start?

Mid July

Kevin

05-28-2012, 06:01 PM

DID YOU HEAR?

WWE is coming out with a new game!!

NickyL0885

05-28-2012, 06:02 PM

DID YOU HEAR?

WWE is coming out with a new game!!

EH! EH! EH!

Kevin

05-28-2012, 06:04 PM

EH! EH! EH!

I'm shocked in mean its not like Raw has been talking about it...

cougarjake13

05-28-2012, 06:59 PM

So ur raw champ goes on at 10 agaInst Daniel Bryan

Ur sd champ comes on a squashes miz

And ur main event is brodus vs big show

Fuckin lame

Kevin

05-28-2012, 07:06 PM

So ur raw champ goes on at 10 agaInst Daniel Bryan

Ur sd champ comes on a squashes miz

And ur main event is brodus vs big show

Fuckin lame

And the main event is even lamer.

cougarjake13

05-28-2012, 07:20 PM

And the main event is even lamer.

I had a feeling they'd do some shit like that so brodus remains undefeated

styckx

05-28-2012, 07:27 PM

RAW was awful and Vince trolled everyone by putting the WWE Attitude logo on the video game box.

Kevin

05-28-2012, 07:33 PM

I had a feeling they'd do some shit like that so brodus remains undefeated

I guess funky is still on a roll, or has rolls, not sure..

MIKEYDAKEN

05-28-2012, 07:57 PM

RAW was awful and Vince trolled everyone by putting the WWE Attitude logo on the video game box.

i think thats cause they are putting in attitude era characters.

RingWraith

05-28-2012, 08:23 PM

Damn, a RAW where I fast forward the entire show. Man has this show been brutal lately.

TripleSkeet

05-28-2012, 08:43 PM

Holy shit that was an awful Raw.

NickyL0885

05-28-2012, 08:48 PM

I think the best thing about tonight was the Punk-Bryan match. Oh, and AJ. :wub:

Kevin

05-28-2012, 09:19 PM

Time to get Dolph away from awful swagger and vickey,

He needs to be on his own and lose the name and show off gimmick.

NickyL0885

05-28-2012, 09:51 PM

Time to get Dolph away from awful swagger and vickey,

He needs to be on his own and lose the name and show off gimmick.

No way he can change his name at this point. Don't see how he can.

conman823

05-28-2012, 10:04 PM

It was also a Cena-less RAW. which I'm sure will be the excuse if the ratings fail.

So glad the Champ is stuck as the mid card main event week after week, even when Prince Cena isn't on the show.

Better then last weeks but still awful.

conman823

05-28-2012, 10:07 PM

No way he can change his name at this point. Don't see how he can.

He'll be fine with the name. It won't matter once he gets fully over.

Let's not forget HBK. Here's a guys whose "Sexy Boy" theme was laughable the last 10 years of his career as he was 40 and hardly a Heartbreak KID anymore.

Kevin

06-04-2012, 07:08 PM

As stupid as that was I gotta admit, I rather enjoyed that.

And finally that joke jobber Tensai loses.

Fallon

06-04-2012, 07:15 PM

Record viewing of Raw tonight, Punk match, AJ interview and just a little of Cole beinh humiliated.

Can't imagine watching without a DVR.

Kevin

06-04-2012, 07:33 PM

Record viewing of Raw tonight, Punk match, AJ interview and just a little of Cole beinh humiliated.

Can't imagine watching without a DVR.

Pretty much.

styckx

06-04-2012, 08:14 PM

I enjoyed WCW Thunder tonight

MIKEYDAKEN

06-04-2012, 08:23 PM

maybe vince is making it this bad to drive us to tna. you see boost their ratings make them real competition and in his mind it's 1999 again.

Kevin

06-04-2012, 08:54 PM

maybe vince is making it this bad to drive us to tna. you see boost their ratings make them real competition and in his mind it's 1999 again.

It would have to get 10x worse to make TNA remotely watchable....

TripleSkeet

06-04-2012, 10:03 PM

First they add Kane, now AJ. Its like they want to make sure they take ALL the steam out of this Punk / Bryan feud.

The show overall wasnt as bad as its been the last 2 weeks. Im hoping Vince coming back will end People Power, get Lesnar or Heyman back on TV, and maybe fix a few more things. Like Albert main eventing. That shits gotta stop.

RingWraith

06-05-2012, 07:40 AM

The show overall wasnt as bad as its been the last 2 weeks. Im hoping Vince coming back will end People Power, get Lesnar or Heyman back on TV, and maybe fix a few more things. Like Albert main eventing. That shits gotta stop.

Seriously! A guy who was the "Hip Hop Hippo" with Scotty 2 Hotty years ago should never be in main event spots.

Kevin

06-05-2012, 07:51 AM

I was fully expecting the big slow to come out and help awful Cole.

He gets beat and mocked at by Cody fucking Rhodes... house... And now are are supposed to buy that he is unstoppable.

And I don't mind AJ cuz she's banging but Kane is useless.

newport king

06-05-2012, 08:35 AM

I was fully expecting the big slow to come out and help awful Cole.

He gets beat and mocked at by Cody fucking Rhodes... house... And now are are supposed to buy that he is unstoppabble.

They had a good thing with Mark Henrys gimmick, he finally got over as a monster, Henry gets hurt, Big Show takes the gimmick.

Chimee

06-05-2012, 09:31 AM

They had a good thing with Mark Henrys gimmick, he finally got over as a monster, Henry gets hurt, Big Show takes the gimmick.

As Big Show was destroying the mid-level guys, all I was thinking was how much better it would be with Mark Henry. He knows how to talk shit while he's inducting people into the Hall of Pain.

newport king

06-05-2012, 11:17 AM

As Big Show was destroying the mid-level guys, all I was thinking was how much better it would be with Mark Henry. He knows how to talk shit while he's inducting people into the Hall of Pain.

plus he's REALLY black.

King Hippos Bandaid

06-05-2012, 12:36 PM

can Cena get divorced already .. the WWE keeps trying to keep him in good spirits with these silly matches with heel GM/Commentators

conman823

06-06-2012, 06:25 AM

So the dirt sheets are claiming that Vince is "tired of rewriting RAW every week".

Apparently the fans are tired of him rewriting it too. So you hire 15 soap opera writers and then throw thier work in the garbage and rewrite it yourself. Good business.

I remember them saying how toward the end of WCW they would be writing the script up till the air time. Apparently RAW has been doing the same thing.