Monday Night RAW Discussion

[newport king]

So i stopped watching wrestling for a few years after the attitude era, and ive been going thru watching all the previous wrestlemanias. Can someone tell me why they got rid of Shelton Benjamin? The guy had a good look, wrestled well and had some crazy spots in ladder matches

[Fallon]

So i stopped watching wrestling for a few years after the attitude era, and ive been going thru watching all the previous wrestlemanias. Can someone tell me why they got rid of Shelton Benjamin? The guy had a good look, wrestled well and had some crazy spots in ladder matches

Took him forever to finally develop a personality and then they got rid of him!!

Team Angle was the best.

[TripleSkeet]

So i stopped watching wrestling for a few years after the attitude era, and ive been going thru watching all the previous wrestlemanias. Can someone tell me why they got rid of Shelton Benjamin? The guy had a good look, wrestled well and had some crazy spots in ladder matches

He couldnt cut a promo for shit, but I loved him as a tag team with Charlie Haas.

[conman823]

They took a really great tag team, split them up, then aborted the whole tag division around the same time.

He was a good worker. His Mama bit was entertaining but they are better as a tag team

[newport king]

He seems like he would've been a great guy in old school ECW. It seems like such a waste cutting a guy with that kind of talent because hes uncomfortable talking.

[cougarjake13]

He didn't even last long in Tna

If he had an old school mgr type he might still be around hell u culda had him in Vicki's stable

[Chimee]

He didn't even last long in Tna

If he had an old school mgr type he might still be around hell u culda had him in Vicki's stable

I don't think he ever went to TNA, he and Haas jumped right to ROH and won the titles.

[cougarjake13]

I don't think he ever went to TNA, he and Haas jumped right to ROH and won the titles.



yeh i thought i remembered him going there

[TripleSkeet]

They took a really great tag team, split them up, then aborted the whole tag division around the same time.

He was a good worker. His Mama bit was entertaining but they are better as a tag team

Maybe if they didnt inexplicably just stop using managers at as well as the tag teams they wouldve been able to use him properly and gotten him on track with his career. Its amazing that they dont use managers anymore. The only one they really use is Vicki, and shes great. But she only got that shot out of a favor to Eddie.

Such a valuable resource they ignore. Think how many legendary guys you never wouldve heard of if they didnt have guys like Heenan, Blassie, Jimmy Hart, Cornette, Paul E., Gary Hart and other incredible managers.

Just another part of wrestling WWE needs to fix.

[styckx]

Agreed. Hell. You could easily argue without the managers he had The Undertaker would've lasted a few months tops and Mark would have been working at Home Depot today.

[Fallon]

I'll be at raw tonight and actually cheering for Cena after he made Rock look like a dick last week.

[Kevin]

I'll be at raw tonight and actually cheering for Cena after he made Rock look like a dick last week.

See!!

I was right all along!!!

You DO LOVE Cena!

[Kevin]

Agreed. Hell. You could easily argue without the managers he had The Undertaker would've lasted a few months tops and Mark would have been working at Home Depot today.

As he should be.

[RingWraith]

I'll be at raw tonight and actually cheering for Cena after he made Rock look like a dick last week.

:blink:

[Kevin]

Taker at Home Depot would be a disaster, it would take a half hour with his pauses to tell you where to find something.

[Kevin]

Wooooo

SANTINO!!!

[cougarjake13]

Wooooo

SANTINO!!!


X2

[NickyL0885]

Woo Woo Woo!

Also, The Rock's promos have been great tonight.

[Kevin]

Rock has been great so far.

Lets see it live.

[NickyL0885]

Rock has been great so far.

Lets see it live.

Gotta admit, I lost it laughing at the song. So brilliant.

[cougarjake13]

Gotta admit, I lost it laughing at the song. So brilliant.


And that's why they bring him back

Brought more excitement in his 3 minute clips then most have in yrs

[Kevin]

Who the hell did the Miz suddenly piss off?

[cougarjake13]

Who the hell did the Miz suddenly piss off?



Been goin on for awhile

Prob since before the he was fired and brought back gimmick

[NickyL0885]

Who the hell did the Miz suddenly piss off?

Management. From them blaming him for the Survivor Series buy rates, to HHH getting in his face when he let R-Truth land awkwardly on Raw when Truth dived out of the ring and hit his head on the outside mat.

[Kevin]

Another fail by the rock live.

He once again had NOTHING.

Cena owned his ass again.

[styckx]

... That ending sucked.. WTF was that all about?

[RingWraith]

Another fail by the rock live.

He once again had NOTHING.

Cena owned his ass again.

I disagree. Today's round goes to The Rock.

[Kevin]

I disagree. Today's round goes to The Rock.

What the hell were you watching?

Cena was just laughing at him, while he spewed the same old shit.

[RingWraith]

What the hell were you watching?

Cena was just laughing at him, while he spewed the same old shit.

That's all Cena ever does is that stupid laughing/grin almost every god damn time. It's freakin' annoying.

[Kevin]

That's all Cena ever does is that stupid laughing/grin almost every god damn time. It's freakin' annoying.

Rock just looked annoyed that Cena doesn't give a fuck about him.

[NickyL0885]

Cena's wife isn't bad looking. I'd hit it!

[RingWraith]

Rock just looked annoyed that Cena doesn't give a fuck about him.

Well, I'm assuming that what they're going for with in this feud. One man annoyed, the other over confident maybe? Who knows. Either way, I'm very much interested on how this matchup plays out in Wrestlemania.

[Fallon]

Wooooo

SANTINO!!!

TD Garden went bonkers, never seen the place explode like that!

[Fallon]

Cena's wife isn't bad looking. I'd hit it!

Her body is meh.

[Kevin]

Say what you want about Cena, but when he is unleashed, he can go toe to toe with anyone on the Mic, no matter who it is. And we are learning that includes the Rock.

Lets face it and the Rock feels it and looks annoyed by the fact that he is not going to cut it with the same old schtick on this feud, he is going to have to bring other things but the same mail it in same old catch phrases that he got by with because he is the Rock.

Cena seems to REALLY not like him and is DRILLING him.

Even the fans towards the end where starting to turn. His schtick can get by in skits alone, but toe to toe LIVE with a gifted mic man like Cena, its not going to cut it.

Philly, NY, he will get ROASTED.

[TripleSkeet]

Cena didnt do bad tonight, but this round went to The Rock. He buried him with his promos. The merchandise had me DYING. Cena had a shot to hang in there, I liked his first promo, and even what he ended with, but he fucking blew it by going with the goofball routine again. I fucking hate that. The guy just cut a promo calling you his bitch 3 inches from your face, and your giggling and making goofy faces like a fucking clown. Thats why I cant take him seriously.

You know what makes wrestling good? The ability to get sucked into it and suspend disbelief. Alot of these guys are best friends but they suck you in to make you feel its serious. Perfect example was HBK and HHH tonight. Michaels couldve played the goof role, laughing at HHH thinking hes better then him. But he didnt. Once he made his point he looked dead serious. Thats what I want from Cena. Act like you want to fucking fight the guy. For the fans sake.

Oh and he got The Rock good with the Tooth Fairy, but lets not forget he just got booed out of his home fucking city. So much so he even mentioned it when he came out. Id love to see him try that mini Lambeau Leap in Philly.

By the way, how you guys like that pop for my boy Santino. Maybe pop of the night right there. Love that guy.

[Kevin]

Cena didnt do bad tonight, but this round went to The Rock. He buried him with his promos. The merchandise had me DYING. Cena had a shot to hang in there, I liked his first promo, and even what he ended with, but he fucking blew it by going with the goofball routine again. I fucking hate that. The guy just cut a promo calling you his bitch 3 inches from your face, and your giggling and making goofy faces like a fucking clown. Thats why I cant take him seriously.

You know what makes wrestling good? The ability to get sucked into it and suspend disbelief. Alot of these guys are best friends but they suck you in to make you feel its serious. Perfect example was HBK and HHH tonight. Michaels couldve played the goof role, laughing at HHH thinking hes better then him. But he didnt. Once he made his point he looked dead serious. Thats what I want from Cena. Act like you want to fucking fight the guy. For the fans sake.

Oh and he got The Rock good with the Tooth Fairy, but lets not forget he just got booed out of his home fucking city. So much so he even mentioned it when he came out. Id love to see him try that mini Lambeau Leap in Philly.

By the way, how you guys like that pop for my boy Santino. Maybe pop of the night right there. Love that guy.

The rock won the skits which lets face it, its not hard because he is a great entertainer.

But he got once again, BURIED live.

I can't imagine how anyone can't see that.

And Santino winning was awesome.

And he got boo'd because people are a bunch of sheep and are still on the Rocks past work.

The Rock deserves to get boo'd for his live performances.

[TripleSkeet]

The rock won the skits which lets face it, its not hard because he is a great entertainer.

But he got once again, BURIED live.

I can't imagine how anyone can't see that.

And Santino winning was awesome.

I didnt think he got buried. Cena didnt say anything. He stood there laughing and making faces. Anyone can do that. If anything he made the segment worse. What did he say that was so great tonight? His promo sitting by himself was 100 times better.

[TripleSkeet]

Im giving next weeks round to Cena now. What a horrible idea this is. Thank God this isnt happening on the Raw Im going to...

-- With next week's Raw SuperShow emanating from the city of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Cleveland, Ohio, a special event will be presented: The Rock in concert and John Cena rapping.

[Kevin]

I didnt think he got buried. Cena didnt say anything. He stood there laughing and making faces. Anyone can do that. If anything he made the segment worse. What did he say that was so great tonight? His promo sitting by himself was 100 times better.

He had some real good line the the sitch line, tooth fairy.


And he just looks like the more confident one of the two.

The Rock just seems like he thought he can get by on old shtick and gets shook when he see's that Cena KNOWS he can't

Its the same old shtick or something something BITCH.

The wrist thing was forced and did not come out as good as it should have though...

[Kevin]

Im giving next weeks round to Cena now. What a horrible idea this is. Thank God this isnt happening on the Raw Im going to...


Eh, Idk the Rock is a good entertainer.

But Rapping is right up Cena's alley.

[RingWraith]

Cena didnt do bad tonight, but this round went to The Rock. He buried him with his promos. The merchandise had me DYING. Cena had a shot to hang in there, I liked his first promo, and even what he ended with, but he fucking blew it by going with the goofball routine again. I fucking hate that. The guy just cut a promo calling you his bitch 3 inches from your face, and your giggling and making goofy faces like a fucking clown. Thats why I cant take him seriously.

THIS........... is why Cena sucked this week.

[Kevin]

What you guys are not getting is Cena is giggling because he knows Rock has fucking nothing.

He may fool the star struck past fool'd fans, but he knows he can't fool Cena, and he can't fool himself.

Thats why what Cena did was great.

Just took the rocks best, knew it was garbage, knew the rock knew that also and just laughed at him.

[cougarjake13]

TD Garden went bonkers, never seen the place explode like that!



What's sad is he ll lose it on sd! On fri when John lauranitis and otunga screw him and swagger gets title back
Hopefully it sets up title match at mania

[JiggleEye Jooh]

Doink...I mean Cena, is trying way too hard to prove he isnt scared shitless when The Rock is in his face. It's a nervous smile. Cena has to do the aww shucks and giggle-girl thing because if he did anything other than that, he wouldnt be able to hide his fear.

Cena is good on the mic until The Rock gets in his face and calls him a little boy and a bitch to his face ( in front of his wife no less) and all Doink can do is smile and nod in agreement.

Then when Rock exits the ring, bad ass, confident Cena gets fired up. No more smiles. Ironic?

[TripleSkeet]

What you guys are not getting is Cena is giggling because he knows Rock has fucking nothing.

He may fool the star struck past fool'd fans, but he knows he can't fool Cena, and he can't fool himself.

Thats why what Cena did was great.

Just took the rocks best, knew it was garbage, knew the rock knew that also and just laughed at him.

You do realize that for the last 50 years every time a wrestler has talked shit to another what sold their promo was the other wrestlers reaction, right? If when the Road Warriors came out and told Ric Flair they would break him in half, think how dumb they wouldve looked if Flair just giggled and made faces at them. But he didnt. He either looked scared to death or mad as a motherfucker. Why? Because as a professional, thats how you sell an angle.

I dont blame this all on Cena, creative has to have something to do with this. But think how ridiculous he looks when in one promo, he says how this is the biggest match of his career, how he NEEDS to win this one. How hes fighting a guy that has accomplished everything there is to accomplish in the WWE.....only to laugh at him later and act like he doesnt take him seriously later that same night. Is that how a normal person would act going in to the biggest match of their career?

The thing that made his promos the last 2 weeks so good was how he looked like he was taking this so seriously. Dropping that last night was what tanked him this week.

[brettmojo]

They completely reversed roles from last week.

Cena came off this week like that kid in high school who'd talk shit and act tough but when someone actually got in his face would laugh it off like it isn't serious and he's just messing around then would act tough again in front of their friends when you'd walk away.

OH HAHA THAT'S THE ROCK WITH HIS MIAMI HURRICANE'S SHIT HAHA AMIRITE??? BOSTON!! THIS IS BOSTON!!

Last week Cena came out, dropped "a bomb", and walked away and this week Rock did the same thing. Instead of having Cena act flustered he played up to Boston like a loudmouth little bitch seeking approval from his friends after having his balls handed to him.

I really hate they're reigning in the Rock to have him play down to Cena's level of mediocrity. The writing on his arm bit, the acting flustered bit... It's lame. It's dishonest. The guy grew up in the business, was born into the business, it isn't him "not being able to do it anymore"... It's having to do a program with fruity pebbles. "Fruity pebbles" which is more memorable than anything Cena has ever done or said in ten years... That's sad and that's indicative of exactly what Cena is. Bland. Unmemorable... Like strip mall kung pao chicken.

[TjM]

Doink...I mean Cena, is trying way too hard to prove he isnt scared shitless when The Rock is in his face. It's a nervous smile. Cena has to do the aww shucks and giggle-girl thing because if he did anything other than that, he wouldnt be able to hide his fear.

Cena is good on the mic until The Rock gets in his face and calls him a little boy and a bitch to his face ( in front of his wife no less) and all Doink can do is smile and nod in agreement.

Then when Rock exits the ring, bad ass, confident Cena gets fired up. No more smiles. Ironic?


I think we watched different shows

[paulisded]

The rock won the skits which lets face it, its not hard because he is a great entertainer.

But he got once again, BURIED live.

I can't imagine how anyone can't see that.

And Santino winning was awesome.

And he got boo'd because people are a bunch of sheep and are still on the Rocks past work.

The Rock deserves to get boo'd for his live performances.

I think we saw a different promo because all I saw was the same old Cena schtick...not that the Rock was much better.

[TripleSkeet]

-- It was reported earlier this week that The Rock bought a $3.5 million mansion last month located in Southwest Ranches, Florida.

In an interesting celebrity connection, The Rock's new mansion is being fixed up by rapper Vanilla Ice as part of his "Vanilla Ice Project" show on the DIY Network show, where he and his team renovate houses.

If I was WWE Creative, I take this oppotunity to get Ice a little exposure for his show, while giving The Rock a nice little internet jab promo.

Im thinking a Twitter vid where The Rock welcomes his fans to his new home, where hes having some work done, pan to a guy wearing a Cena hat and Rise Above Hate shirt cutting some lumber and have Rocky calling him over by saying "Yo John! Hey Cena come here..." and have the guy turn around and its Vanilla Ice.

Considering they are letting Cena do his rap gimmick this week it sounds like a perfect opportunity. No doubt it will be missed by everyone in charge.

[styckx]

Wow.. It's 2005!

[newport king]

Dont give a shit what the Rock says later. Round 3 to Cena. He mentioned the titty surgery. He wins.

[Kevin]

Cena bombed the rock there.

[brettmojo]

I wish Cena could have worked in something about the Guerrero's mowing his lawn again.

[Kevin]

The FUNKASAURUS IS BACK!!!!

[brettmojo]

The FUNKASAURUS IS BACK!!!!
And my channel is changed.

[newport king]

I cant wait to see the Rock fans come here and say how great the Rock was repeating the same bullshit from 98

[newport king]

Undertaker is a real fucking bore.

[Kevin]

I cant wait to see the Rock fans come here and say how great the Rock was repeating the same bullshit from 98

Yup...

People are sheep.

[Kevin]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Kevin]

Oh good a pausing contest by HHH and Taker.

[newport king]

Nice mascara dude

[Kevin]

So glad to see the Rock "BACK"

One segment everytime.

Is he even at the arena yet?

How does anyone buy his shit?

[asayresk]

Im shocked, Jack Swagger Lost the macth:huh:

[NickyL0885]

This would be better if The Rock actually wrote the lyrics.

[brettmojo]

There's 18,000 plus buying his shit right now.

[Kevin]

He had 1 goddamn funny like throughout the whole 20mins.

[styckx]

Wow... The Rock should have stayed in Hollywood.. Oof

[Kevin]

Now I don't blame Lebron for leaving.

[epo]

This is so stupid.

I can't believe I'm saying this...I'm on Team Cena.

[asayresk]

I would of been hyped if Cena ambused the Rock during the concert.

[Kevin]

I would of been hyped if Cena ambused the Rock during the concert.

Are you trying to say abused or ambushed?


Cena could not have done anything worse to the rock than the rock did to himself.

Goddamn is he a hack.

[newport king]

What. The. Fuck. And hey WWE Creative, no reason to sauce up the Jericho Punk match. That promo was just unecessary.

[asayresk]

Are you trying to say abused or ambushed?


Cena could not have done anything worse to the rock than the rock did to himself.

Goddamn is he a hack.

Ambushed or abused, It would of been nice to see Cena smash that Guitar over the rock head jeff jarrett style.

[NickyL0885]

Cena on Twitter just now:

"He didnt need em on his hand he had lyric sheet, and then they were on jumbotron, but @therock is back! And #WM28 its on! Best v Best 4/1/12"

[TripleSkeet]

I just watched. I give Cena the round just like I did 6 days ago. He was awesome. Too bad they dont go back to that gimmick, Id like him all the time again.

That being said, The Rocks segment was pretty funny. I expected it to be horrible but he had me laughing, and he had The King and Cole cracking up. I was never a fan of the whole singing routine with him but I thought tonight was pretty good. The lyrics about the grown men had me laughing out loud.

Did Cena get caught cheating on his wife or something? The reason I ask is besides the lyrics tonight, last week there was a guy holding a sign that read "Cena Cheats On His Wife" and I was curious if that was some kind of behind the scenes gossip or something I was unaware of.

I have a question for those saying The Rock is repeating what he did in 98. He sang on a guitar then about someone else, and he sang on one tonight. Does this mean Cena is repeating himself from 2003 because he rapped about someone then and rapped about someone else now? I dont get it.

I really hope they finally let these guys start getting physical next week. Im tired of talking. They need to fight. I read somewhere they dont want them fighting because it would lessen the hype for Mania which I think is fucking retarded. Didnt Rock hit Hogan with a Rock bottom, and then get hit my a truck that Hogan was driving before their match? I dont remember that taking away from the hype of that match.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, how the fuck does Dolph Ziggler not have a Wrestlemania match yet? Are they just gonna lump him in with this 6 on 6 garbage match? That fucking sucks.

[Kevin]

I just watched. I give Cena the round just like I did 6 days ago. He was awesome. Too bad they dont go back to that gimmick, Id like him all the time again.

That being said, The Rocks segment was pretty funny. I expected it to be horrible but he had me laughing, and he had The King and Cole cracking up. I was never a fan of the whole singing routine with him but I thought tonight was pretty good. The lyrics about the grown men had me laughing out loud.

Did Cena get caught cheating on his wife or something? The reason I ask is besides the lyrics tonight, last week there was a guy holding a sign that read "Cena Cheats On His Wife" and I was curious if that was some kind of behind the scenes gossip or something I was unaware of.

I have a question for those saying The Rock is repeating what he did in 98. He sang on a guitar then about someone else, and he sang on one tonight. Does this mean Cena is repeating himself from 2003 because he rapped about someone then and rapped about someone else now? I dont get it.

I really hope they finally let these guys start getting physical next week. Im tired of talking. They need to fight. I read somewhere they dont want them fighting because it would lessen the hype for Mania which I think is fucking retarded. Didnt Rock hit Hogan with a Rock bottom, and then get hit my a truck that Hogan was driving before their match? I dont remember that taking away from the hype of that match.

Cole and King are paid to crack up.

And rock had ONE line that made me laugh. The Dr one.

The rest was pure regurgitated bullshit.

Yea Cena rapped, but his lines were original and funny.

You have to stop with the rock. He does not have it anymore.

He just is not putting the effort and knows he has fans like you that eat up his shit because of who he WAS not who he is.

[Kevin]

Also, how the fuck does Dolph Ziggler not have a Wrestlemania match yet? Are they just gonna lump him in with this 6 on 6 garbage match? That fucking sucks.

As long as he has the name "Dolph Ziggler"

and he comes out to fucking Nickleback, then he can't be taken serious nor does he deserve a main event spot.

[TripleSkeet]

Cole and King are paid to crack up.

And rock had ONE line that made me laugh. The Dr one.

The rest was pure regurgitated bullshit.

Yea Cena rapped, but his lines were original and funny.

You have to stop with the rock. He does not have it anymore.

He just is not putting the effort and knows he has fans like you that eat up his shit because of who he WAS not who he is.

Im pretty sure I heard Cena ONCE AGAIN mentioning notes on the wrist. And the Tooth Fairy. But it doesnt make his promo bad in my opinion. I gave him credit, I thought he was good. And Im pretty sure that I was the one that said Cena was going to take this one tonight last week.

But Im being honest, I thought the singing segment was going to be godawful, and I dont think it was. It was legitimately funny. Im trying to think about when The Rock mentioned Cenas wife or mom before, but I must be forgetting it. What makes me laugh is you cry about regurgitating stuff yet admit the part you laughed at is one of the things hes repeated the most! I expected the thing to be really bad and the crowd to turn on him but I gotta admit, he had them in his hand tonight. That being said, I still gave the round to Cena.

Its wrestling. Guys say the same shit all the time. Pretty sure The Undertaker mentioned taking someone to hell tonight for the 8 millionth time. If its said in a way that makes me laugh, I dont care if I heard it before.

[TripleSkeet]

As long as he has the name "Dolph Ziggler"

and he comes out to fucking Nickleback, then he can't be taken serious nor does he deserve a main event spot.

I never said he deserves a main event spot, but he does deserve a Mania match, and a decent mid card one at that. I have said many times I HATE the name but if thats whats holding him back the WWE should just change it like they did with Johnny Nitro.

[Kevin]

Im pretty sure I heard Cena ONCE AGAIN mentioning notes on the wrist. And the Tooth Fairy. But it doesnt make his promo bad in my opinion. I gave him credit, I thought he was good. And Im pretty sure that I was the one that said Cena was going to take this one tonight last week.

But Im being honest, I thought the singing segment was going to be godawful, and I dont think it was. It was legitimately funny. Im trying to think about when The Rock mentioned Cenas wife or mom before, but I must be forgetting it. What makes me laugh is you cry about regurgitating stuff yet admit the part you laughed at is one of the things hes repeated the most! I expected the thing to be really bad and the crowd to turn on him but I gotta admit, he had them in his hand tonight. That being said, I still gave the round to Cena.

Its wrestling. Guys say the same shit all the time. Pretty sure The Undertaker mentioned taking someone to hell tonight for the 8 millionth time. If its said in a way that makes me laugh, I dont care if I heard it before.

And I find Taker just as old and not trying as the Rock.

Cena's re metions go back 2 weeks.

Rocks 14 YEARS.

Not the same.

[NickyL0885]

As long as he has the name "Dolph Ziggler"

and he comes out to fucking Nickleback, then he can't be taken serious nor does he deserve a main event spot.

He doesn't come out to Nickelback. He comes out to Downstait.

[Kevin]

He doesn't come out to ******. He comes out to Downstait.

It sounds alot like nicklback..

So just as bad..

[NickyL0885]

It sounds alot like nicklback..

So just as bad..

They also do The Miz's theme.

[conman823]

Two weeks before WM and this RAW sucked the caring right out of me.

I literally nodded off during the HBK/Taker segment.

I agree with Newport king that the whole "extra layer" they threw on the Punk/Jericho match is stupid. Just goes to show that every single match has to have some BS "story" behind it, it can't just be best vs best for the title. That change has paranoid WM Vince written all over it. Punk completely over sold it too.

Cena was edgy and serious in his "rap" tonight. Something he needed to be. I also pointed out those were his "heel" attire. He threw PG out the window and lanced The Rock with some real heat.
The Rock came out with the same boring Watered Down catch phrases and gimmick BS. Was it entertaining? Sure, but it didn't make me feel that he was attacking Cena on the same level Cena was attacking him. Plus it was MORE prepared material which apparently "The Great One" is only capable of delivering.

Biggest match of all time my Aunt Tillys ass!

[styckx]

The best part of RAW was Undertaker saying Wrestlemania is April 21st and the crowd correcting him.

[conman823]

My wife told me about it when I woke up again at the end of the segment.

[newport king]

Didnt even notice the Undertaker fuck up the date. I kind of half agree with Kevin, even though im a big Ziggler fan, it sucks that he caught on with THAT name. I said before, with Jericho coming back, i think that pushed Dolph out of the spotlight with Punk. I mean the guy completely carried Sheamus tonight in what was essentially a squash, but STILL had a great match. I've heard him and Kofi have been stealing the house shows lately. But unfortunately they seem to like keeping Kofi in the just about dead Tag Team division.

The Jericho/Punk your father was an alcoholic thing really bothered me. It reeks of something Vince Russo would have done.

[newport king]

As far as Cena/Rock, ive been on Cena's side suprisingly. I'm by no means a fan, but think hes done better with this angle than Rock. Rocks whole segment wasnt bad, just the douchey We Will Rock you part where he fucked up every other line. Word. Life.

[conman823]

The card is at least shaping up to be stronger then last years WM. I figure they will squeeze in a divas match and Orton vs Kane. More so because Orton deserves to be at WM although in my opinion Kane does not.

I think the only thing that would get me into the HIC match would be if it had been a triple threat. Still I gotta believe that this match is gonna be weak on all sides.

Ziggler and the other good up & comers will have plenty of future WMs and summerslams to be featured on.

[paulisded]

Cole and King are paid to crack up.

And rock had ONE line that made me laugh. The Dr one.

The rest was pure regurgitated bullshit.

Yea Cena rapped, but his lines were original and funny.

You have to stop with the rock. He does not have it anymore.

He just is not putting the effort and knows he has fans like you that eat up his shit because of who he WAS not who he is.

They both sucked. It's a bad angle.

[TripleSkeet]

Cena was edgy and serious in his "rap" tonight. Something he needed to be. I also pointed out those were his "heel" attire. He threw PG out the window and lanced The Rock with some real heat.


It showed how could he really is, too bad after mania hes gonna go right back to being Hulkster Junior. Thats what bothers me most. Its one thing to hype a guy and he just doesnt have the talent, eventually it just falls thru and thats that. Its another when you know the guys got the talent, yet hes saddled with a stale and corny gimmick where funny enough, he does the same thing people have criticized The Rock for, spitting out the same shit over and over.

[TripleSkeet]

And I find Taker just as old and not trying as the Rock.

Cena's re metions go back 2 weeks.

Rocks 14 YEARS.

Not the same.

Again, I just dont see it. Not sure what he said last night that he was saying 14 years ago with the exception of his regular "Know your role" shtick. Which was sprinkled in but not overshadowing the segment. And which EVERY wrestler that has ever gotten over goes back to when they return. Is that what you dont like? That he does the FINALLY... stuff and shit like that? Because to expect him to just drop all that is unrealistic and silly if you ask me. Its like Steve Austin coming back for a match, but you dont want him to say "Thats the bottom line...". When people buy tickets to see these guys, and make no mistake, most of that crowd last night came to see The Rock among others, thats what those people expect to hear.

[brettmojo]

It's extreme butt-hurt. That's all.

[styckx]

Cenas goodie goodie Rise Above Hate / Respect blah blah blah gimmick is annoying as hell but seeing stuff like this every once in a while makes you realize as much as we hate it there are a lot of kids like this who hang on his every word.

http://fox8.com/2012/03/12/boy-battling-cancer-meets-wrestling-hero/

[Fallon]

Cena was again short and to the point and delivered some legit good lines. The Rock was going on and on repeating the same shit and for christ sake stop saying cleveland rocks!!!

[TripleSkeet]

Cenas goodie goodie Rise Above Hate / Respect blah blah blah gimmick is annoying as hell but seeing stuff like this every once in a while makes you realize as much as we hate it there are a lot of kids like this who hang on his every word.

http://fox8.com/2012/03/12/boy-battling-cancer-meets-wrestling-hero/

Ive always said hes one of the classiest guys in wrestling. Besides all the Make-A-Wish stuff, he goes above and beyond to help out those in need. There was a kid I grew up with that was an Indy wrestler named Trent Acid. He died a couple years back at the age of 29. When his family put on a benefit wrestling show at the ECW Arena, Cena donated a gold rolex that spun for the charity auction. The guy is definitely all class.

That being said Id like to think he could still do all those things without the cartoony superhero gimmick.

[conman823]

Someones gotta be "the face of the company".

Maybe one day when they find the next big name after Cena we will get a Hollywood Hogan like turn from Cena.

[TjM]

The Jericho/Punk your father was an alcoholic thing really bothered me. It reeks of something Vince Russo would have done.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1103417-vince-russo-offering-to-teach-people-how-to-write-a-wrestling-show


:lol::lol::lol:

[conman823]

I was gonna say who the fuck would attend that but then I read the polls and apparently 56% of the people polled would.

[cougarjake13]

Someones gotta be "the face of the company".

Maybe one day when they find the next big name after Cena we will get a Hollywood Hogan like turn from Cena.

With orton and punk I sayin culd do it now

Turn cena heel and have him go up against punk

[TripleSkeet]

Someones gotta be "the face of the company".

Maybe one day when they find the next big name after Cena we will get a Hollywood Hogan like turn from Cena.

I agree someone has to be, I just dont think they have to be that squeaky clean dorky character. Austin wasnt. HHH wasnt. Bret Hart, HBK, Undertaker. None of them were.

While hes like Hogan, Hogan came along with a boom of national TV. His act was fresh and didnt come across as fake and hokey. Cenas does. When people talk about the best gimmicks are just the person being themself with the volume turned up. Like an Austin or a HHH, I dont see that with Cenas post Marine gimmick. I saw it more with his rapper gimmick which turned out to be true considering he actually wrote his own raps and put out a record.

[conman823]

The examples you gave were people who were carrying the company during the attitude era. They were playing to the 18-35 male demo so they didn't need corny colors for shirts etc. hogan & Cena were both playing to kids so the gimmicks needed to be hookey.

Cena does wear way to much of his own merch when he's out there. He's like a walking billboard. It's what made him an easy target for the Fruity Pebbles line. He try's to say that's the real Cena, but am I supposed to believe that any random Wednesday Afternoon I'd see him at a Walmart wearing a Purpule shirt and wristbands?

[conman823]

With orton and punk I sayin culd do it now

Turn cena heel and have him go up against punk

They have Orton locked into that whole "tweener" angel so if they need a convenient heel he'll just turn up the angry/crazy Orton.

Punk has played heel for some time before the fans turned him face. It remains to be seen if when he drops the belt he stays face. I can't imagine Orton or Cena will go much longer without a strap it's been almost a year for both of them.

Cena isn't turning anytime soon. If they didn't turn him for this Rock match I can't think of another spot perfect enough for the big turn

[NickyL0885]

Word I am seeing online is they may have The Miz get involved in the Rock-Cena match, due to his history with them at the last Wrestlemania.

[conman823]

So the billed "greatest match of all time" will have a run in from a forgettable mid carder?

Thats equal too having to explain to people who the fuck Paul Orndoff is to people watching the main event of WM1.

They had sense enough to keep Hall and Nash away from the Rock/Hogan match ten years ago. This could ruin everything

[TripleSkeet]

So the billed "greatest match of all time" will have a run in from a forgettable mid carder?

Thats equal too having to explain to people who the fuck Paul Orndoff is to people watching the main event of WM1.

They had sense enough to keep Hall and Nash away from the Rock/Hogan match ten years ago. This could ruin everything

Actually they did a run in after the match.

[cougarjake13]

Actually they did a run in after the match.


But that was after

[cougarjake13]

They have Orton locked into that whole "tweener" angel so if they need a convenient heel he'll just turn up the angry/crazy Orton.

Punk has played heel for some time before the fans turned him face. It remains to be seen if when he drops the belt he stays face. I can't imagine Orton or Cena will go much longer without a strap it's been almost a year for both of them.

Cena isn't turning anytime soon. If they didn't turn him for this Rock match I can't think of another spot perfect enough for the big turnMaybe after the match hell turn and say all this I've done and u still boo me

[conman823]

Actually they did a run in after the match.

After the match doesn't count. That was to further the plot line of turning Hogan face.

I can't see Miz doing anything relevant AFTER the match, his involvement would only have an impact if he affected the outcome of the match.

[Chimee]

I'd predict that the Miz would interrupt a verbal exchange on RAW, Cena will kick his ass and he'll be in the dark match battle royal at Wrestlemania.

[TripleSkeet]

After the match doesn't count. That was to further the plot line of turning Hogan face.

I can't see Miz doing anything relevant AFTER the match, his involvement would only have an impact if he affected the outcome of the match.

Not necessarily. It could be used to set up a new feud for Cena for after Mania. Say at some point in the match, Cena is about to give The Rock the FU, hes got him on his shoulders, spinning he hits the ref knocking him out. The Miz runs in, kicks Cena before he can, and gives him his finisher. Then hes yelling at The Rock to pin him, The Rocks looking around unsure if he should. He starts smiling, goes to give the Miz a high five, and instead he rock bottoms him.

When he does pin him he gets a 2 count, The Miz rolls out, and the match continues. Doesnt really affect the outcome, but the next night Cena has someone to blame and go after if he loses.

[spe5150]

Not necessarily. It could be used to set up a new feud for Cena for after Mania. Say at some point in the match, Cena is about to give The Rock the FU, hes got him on his shoulders, spinning he hits the ref knocking him out. The Miz runs in, kicks Cena before he can, and gives him his finisher. Then hes yelling at The Rock to pin him, The Rocks looking around unsure if he should. He starts smiling, goes to give the Miz a high five, and instead he rock bottoms him.

When he does pin him he gets a 2 count, The Miz rolls out, and the match continues. Doesnt really affect the outcome, but the next night Cena has someone to blame and go after if he loses.

If I were a betting man I would put money on that exact scenario. Cena will need someone to feud with until Rock feels like working again, around Summer Slam. This gives him something to do for a while...& no doubt he'll be just as enthusiastic about that angle as he was with Kane. A real win/win for the fans. :thumbdown:

[conman823]

Not necessarily. It could be used to set up a new feud for Cena for after Mania. Say at some point in the match, Cena is about to give The Rock the FU, hes got him on his shoulders, spinning he hits the ref knocking him out. The Miz runs in, kicks Cena before he can, and gives him his finisher. Then hes yelling at The Rock to pin him, The Rocks looking around unsure if he should. He starts smiling, goes to give the Miz a high five, and instead he rock bottoms him.

When he does pin him he gets a 2 count, The Miz rolls out, and the match continues. Doesnt really affect the outcome, but the next night Cena has someone to blame and go after if he loses.

Like I said, the billed "greatest match of all time" will have a shit smear in the form of The Miz on it for all eternity. What a waste of a years build up that will be.

Let's hope it's left to him interfering but getting completely stomped out by both Cena and Rock like the jabroni he is

[cougarjake13]

Like I said, the billed "greatest match of all time" will have a shit smear in the form of The Miz on it for all eternity. What a waste of a years build up that will be.

Let's hope it's left to him interfering but getting completely stomped out by both Cena and Rock like the jabroni he is

What if that is what happens he comes out after the match when rock and cena recreate the rock hogan handshake kick miz's ass with some back and forth finishers ... A people's elbow into a 5 knuckle shuffle to a rock bottom to an attitude adjustment

Then cena turns heel and aa's the rock

Although prob it'll be the rock who grabs cena and rock bottoms him

[TripleSkeet]

If I were a betting man I would put money on that exact scenario. Cena will need someone to feud with until Rock feels like working again, around Summer Slam. This gives him something to do for a while...& no doubt he'll be just as enthusiastic about that angle as he was with Kane. A real win/win for the fans. :thumbdown:

Well listen I can understand not being enthusiastic about doing an angle with Kane where you have to pretend to believe in the supernatural and act like a 4 year old thats afraid of the boogeyman. But if hes put in a feud with The Miz, he should be enthusiastic about it. Your supposed to be the man right? Well your job as the man is to help make young stars. He helped make Edge and Randy Orton, but hasnt with much else. The Nexus angle fizzled quick, as did Seamus' first title run.

He shouldnt need a superstar from 10 years earlier to come in to get him into an angle. Especially when all hes done since the guy came back is cry that hes never there and how hes there every week.

[brettmojo]

Not necessarily. It could be used to set up a new feud for Cena for after Mania. Say at some point in the match, Cena is about to give The Rock the FU, hes got him on his shoulders, spinning he hits the ref knocking him out. The Miz runs in, kicks Cena before he can, and gives him his finisher. Then hes yelling at The Rock to pin him, The Rocks looking around unsure if he should. He starts smiling, goes to give the Miz a high five, and instead he rock bottoms him.

When he does pin him he gets a 2 count, The Miz rolls out, and the match continues. Doesnt really affect the outcome, but the next night Cena has someone to blame and go after if he loses.
That would be... Acceptable.

[cougarjake13]

That would be... Acceptable.


But not awwwwwwwwwwsome

[newport king]

Lord Tensai. Sigh......

[Kevin]

1 Rock... Rock bottoming mark Henry is not as impressive as an AA..
2. Its def not impressive moments AFTER Henry was in a match and got an AA.

[newport king]

Remember all the way back like a month and a half ago when Mark Henry was over FINALLY as a legit monster? Yeah. Thats over.

[newport king]

They really like maria menounos huh?

[NickyL0885]

They really like maria menounos huh?

She is hot. and not too bad in the ring. At least she has done it once before.

[RingWraith]

1 Rock... Rock bottoming mark Henry is not as impressive as an AA..
2. Its def not impressive moments AFTER Henry was in a match and got an AA.


Jeez! What has The Rock ever done to you?! lol!

[Kevin]

Jeez! What has The Rock ever done to you?! lol!

Being a fake ...

I hate fakes...

How bout wrestling.


He just had a match and you just come in after for 10 secs and think thats supposed to impress me?


Fake

[newport king]

Aksana might be the hottest chick they have

[NickyL0885]

Aksana might be the hottest chick they have

Are you serious bro?!

[Kevin]

Aksana might be the hottest chick they have

And she is Ukrainian so you know she is bat shit insane

[newport king]

Nicky im on my cell so i cant post a pic, but look at this pic. You know it.
http://www.lethalwow.com/images5/wwe-diva-Aksana6.jpg

[NickyL0885]

Nicky im on my cell so i cant post a pic, but look at this pic. You know it.
http://www.lethalwow.com/images5/wwe-diva-Aksana6.jpg

:surrender: You win. She looks much better with blonde hair.

[newport king]

HBKs crosseye is almost as distracting as Foley's bottom teeth.

[RingWraith]

HBKs crosseye is almost as distracting as Foley's bottom teeth.

I have noticed that with HBK in the last couple of years. I'm wondering why/when did his eyes started looking like that.

[newport king]

Thats what happens when you see god....boy Undertaker, what a dud of a line. I hope Brock comes back and ruins this match and asks him "you wanna do this?"

[paulisded]

An mumbling Undertaker segment is not a great way to end a show.

[RingWraith]

Thats what happens when you see god....boy Undertaker, what a dud of a line. I hope Brock comes back and ruins this match and asks him "you wanna do this?"

:laugh: haha!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I have noticed that with HBK in the last couple of years. I'm wondering why/when did his eyes started looking like that.

That's not lazy eye, that's the power of Jesus!

[styckx]

Man the times have definitely passed Undertaker.. The crowds barely pay any respect to him anymore. He's just that old dude who shows up once a year to most of this newer and younger crowd. It's like watching an old timers hockey game on allstar weekend. You respect the dudes for what they once did but holy shit the game is boring, dull and sad at the same time watching them stutter along trying to recapture a time in their lives that has long since ended.

[styckx]

WWE shut down FCW...

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Reportedly_Shutting_Down_Florida_Championship_ Wrestling.html

[TripleSkeet]

Took my son to his first Raw tonight. Im sure on TV it wasnt a killer show but live it was alot of fun. They didnt really progress The Rock / Cena storyline tonight but I give Cena credit for finally selling a decent facial expression. For those that want to see The Rock wrestle on Raw I dont know what to tell you. You have to be stupid to expect that. Theyve been building this match up for a year, they arent just going to magically have him come in and start wrestling on Raw for free. At least he did something physical. But apparently his finishing move is not impressive anymore. Kevin should just walk around with 8 wristbands on while wearing jean shorts and pump up sneakers.

Also, I know he wasnt on TV long, but after it went off the air, instead of a match they had Miz come out, and The Rock interrupted his tirade. After Rock cut a promo on him, Miz started talking about Wrestlemania (to chants of "you wont be there") and he said he wanted to be in The Rocks corner to help him win. Rock thought about it, said OK, shook his hand and Rock Bottomed him before dropping a Peoples elbow. Sounds almost like what I predicted for Miz at Mania.

I was happy with the show and my son said it was "awesome". First time hes ever used that word, but then again hes 2 1/2. By the way, our seats were pretty good....

This is us...
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5185/11111eu.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/11111eu.jpg/)

[TripleSkeet]

Lord Tensai. Sigh......

Pretty sure thats A-Train.

[Kevin]

Took my son to his first Raw tonight. Im sure on TV it wasnt a killer show but live it was alot of fun. They didnt really progress The Rock / Cena storyline tonight but I give Cena credit for finally selling a decent facial expression. For those that want to see The Rock wrestle on Raw I dont know what to tell you. You have to be stupid to expect that. Theyve been building this match up for a year, they arent just going to magically have him come in and start wrestling on Raw for free. At least he did something physical. But apparently his finishing move is not impressive anymore. Kevin should just walk around with 8 wristbands on while wearing jean shorts and pump up sneakers.

Also, I know he wasnt on TV long, but after it went off the air, instead of a match they had Miz come out, and The Rock interrupted his tirade. After Rock cut a promo on him, Miz started talking about Wrestlemania (to chants of "you wont be there") and he said he wanted to be in The Rocks corner to help him win. Rock thought about it, said OK, shook his hand and Rock Bottomed him before dropping a Peoples elbow. Sounds almost like what I predicted for Miz at Mania.




I was happy with the show and my son said it was "awesome". First time hes ever used that word, but then again hes 2 1/2. By the way, our seats were pretty good....

This is us...
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5185/11111eu.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/11111eu.jpg/)




You need to buy that awful Team bring it shirt.

And who the fuck is he with the Big C on this shirt, JASON VARITEK??

Sorry I used to love the rock but he is now a hack and is done.

He is doing this for the money and just for it and if you do not think that you are lost

One same old catch phrase skit and a rock bottom on a guy who was in a match after your opponent bust his ass and did a more impressive move on him..



Yea HE IS BACK!!

And Im not a Cena fan but he has been 1000 % better than that done hack.

sorry, Im not a sheep and do not eat him his garbage and mailing it in.

If you aren't gunna do it 100% don't insult us and stay away.

[styckx]

Hey TripleSkeet.. What did CM Punk shout at Jericho? They completed muted about 3 full seconds of audio on the broadcast. His initial rebuttal and a second time shortly after they muted him again briefly.

[TripleSkeet]

You need to buy that awful Team bring it shirt.

And who the fuck is he with the Big C on this shirt, JASON VARITEK??

Sorry I used to love the rock but he is now a hack and is done.

He is doing this for the money and just for it and if you do not think that you are lost

One same old catch phrase skit and a rock bottom on a guy who was in a match after your opponent bust his ass and did a more impressive move on hims...

Yea HE IS BACK!!

And Im not a Cena fan but he has been 1000 % better than that done hack.

Crazy talk. The Rock entertained more people in 1999 then Cenas done his entire career. What exactly did Cena do tonight that was so impressive? Besides finally give a reaction that a guy going into a huge Mania match should give? Am I supposed to cheer like crazy for that match with Mark Henry? Thats what you consider entertaining? For the record it looked like he almost killed him with that FU. I thought he dropped him on his head.

Also, my sons got the TEAM BRING IT shirt. I went old school with the blue Brahma Bull.

I will say this though. At one point I sat my son on the rail and said "Look, John Cenas gonna come out" right before his match and my son literally YELLED.."NO DADDY. No John Cena. The Rock daddy, The Rock." At least I know Im raising him right.

[TripleSkeet]

Hey TripleSkeet.. What did CM Punk shout at Jericho? They completed muted about 3 full seconds of audio on the broadcast. His initial rebuttal and a second time shortly after they muted him again briefly.

Youre Bullshit. He shouted it twice.

[Kevin]

Crazy talk. The Rock entertained more people in 1999 then Cenas done his entire career. What exactly did Cena do tonight that was so impressive? Besides finally give a reaction that a guy going into a huge Mania match should give? Am I supposed to cheer like crazy for that match with Mark Henry? Thats what you consider entertaining? For the record it looked like he almost killed him with that FU. I thought he dropped him on his head.

Also, my sons got the TEAM BRING IT shirt. I went old school with the blue Brahma Bull.

I will say this though. At one point I sat my son on the rail and said "Look, John Cenas gonna come out" right before his match and my son literally YELLED.."NO DADDY. No John Cena. The Rock daddy, The Rock." At least I know Im raising him right.

I was not saying for the career, i mean this feud.

The Rock has been exposed to having nothing or not caring enough to put any kind of effort what so ever.

And that's because he does not.

The Rock is a phony simple as that.

And I can't root for him.

You can be blind and eat up his nonsense but thats on you.

And if you liked Cena so would your son. That proves nothing. They are all the way at that age.

[TripleSkeet]

I was not saying for the career, i mean this feud.

The Rock has been exposed to having nothing or not caring enough to put any kind of effort what so ever.

And that's because he does not.

The Rock is a phony simple as that.

And I can't root for him.

You can be blind and eat up his nonsense but thats on you.

And if you liked Cena so would your son. That proves nothing. They are all the way at that age.

Not true actually. My friend was there with his 6 year old. My friend hates Cena, his son loves him. We actually teased the kid last Mania when The Rock rock bottomed Cena. The kid got so pissed off.

Im not sure what it is Im eating up though. The Rock doesnt need the money, thats a proven fact. Even if he did come back to launch his Twitter LAST YEAR, why sign up for Mania this year? Or Survivor Series? Or 2012's Summerslam? Or next years Mania? If he didnt care, he wouldnt even bother. Its not like his movie career is stalling.

I like him because hes voicing all the things Ive hated about Cenas gimmick the last 5 years. Of course in a feud he has to call out the actual person but everything hes said has been shit Ive complained about for years now.
- The corny catchphrases
- The goofy colored outfits
- The catering to 5 year olds
- The basic PG direction of the WWE.

I know Cenas not really the one responsible for most of this but hes the face of the franchise, and if you really want it to change when a wrestler actually can say the things that are wrong, (eg. CM Punks huge promo) you cheer it. You back it up. In hopes that somewhere King Vince will notice and make a change.

[SnuggleBug]

An mumbling Undertaker segment is not a great way to end a show.

I was there tonight....it's a shame cause the actual show ended with the Miz trashing Philly and then the Rock coming out to trash the Miz and then getting the "people's elbow".
Why can't off air shit get put on air? So much better....

[Kevin]

Not true actually. My friend was there with his 6 year old. My friend hates Cena, his son loves him. We actually teased the kid last Mania when The Rock rock bottomed Cena. The kid got so pissed off.

Im not sure what it is Im eating up though. The Rock doesnt need the money, thats a proven fact. Even if he did come back to launch his Twitter LAST YEAR, why sign up for Mania this year? Or Survivor Series? Or 2012's Summerslam? Or next years Mania? If he didnt care, he wouldnt even bother. Its not like his movie career is stalling.

I like him because hes voicing all the things Ive hated about Cenas gimmick the last 5 years. Of course in a feud he has to call out the actual person but everything hes said has been shit Ive complained about for years now.
- The corny catchphrases
- The goofy colored outfits
- The catering to 5 year olds
- The basic PG direction of the WWE.

I know Cenas not really the one responsible for most of this but hes the face of the franchise, and if you really want it to change when a wrestler actually can say the things that are wrong, (eg. CM Punks huge promo) you cheer it. You back it up. In hopes that somewhere King Vince will notice and make a change.

You know better than that. People with money ALWAYS want money.

And it also does not hurt his movies doing this.

[TripleSkeet]

I was there tonight....it's a shame cause the actual show ended with the Miz trashing Philly and then the Rock coming out to trash the Miz and then getting the "people's elbow".
Why can't off air shit get put on air? So much better....

What section? I didnt even realize it but you live like down the road from me.

[styckx]

Youre Bullshit. He shouted it twice.

Thanks! They could have at least done the partial censoring so we knew it "You're Bul*mute*"

[TripleSkeet]

Thanks! They could have at least done the partial censoring so we knew it "You're Bul*mute*"

Did they mute the part where he said "And thats exactly what Im going to beat out of you."

[SnuggleBug]

What section? I didnt even realize it but you live like down the road from me.

I was in 108 with my 8 and 10yr old nephews who HATE Cena, and love Jericho and Daniel Bryan. I taught them well....

[styckx]

Did they mute the part where he said "And thats exactly what Im going to beat out of you."

No, we heard that which left a lot wondering what exactly it was he said.. It was presented on TV like he dropped something truly awful that you'd see on HBO or something.. Now knowing what he did say the followup line doesn't even make any sense. :dry: He's going to beat bullshit out of Jericho? :lol:

I don't know if this came across live or not but this family values storyline strikes me as something CM Punk wanted absolutely no part of but one he couldn't even worm his way out of. It's a really shitty last minute Vince panicking before WM angle.

[SnuggleBug]

No, we heard that which left a lot wondering what exactly it was he said.. It was presented on TV like he dropped something truly awful that you'd see on HBO or something.. Now knowing what he did say the followup line doesn't even make any sense. :dry: He's going to beat bullshit out of Jericho? :lol:

I don't know if this came across live or not but this family values storyline strikes me as something CM Punk wanted absolutely no part of but one he couldn't even worm his way out of. It's a really shitty last minute Vince panicking before WM angle.

If you know anything about Punk, this storyline doesn't bother him at all. Infact I think he embraces it. My confusion from the crowd is how they were so behind Punk with this straight edge stuff and not more in favor with Jericho. This is a town who loves to drink right? I was disappointed that this Philly crowd didn't embrace Jericho more and chant CM Drunk. Oh well.....guess things were different in my day when it was acceptable to wear a Hawaiian shirt and a straw hat in the front row......

[styckx]

If you know anything about Punk, this storyline doesn't bother him at all. Infact I think he embraces it. My confusion from the crowd is how they were so behind Punk with this straight edge stuff and not more in favor with Jericho. This is a town who loves to drink right? I was disappointed that this Philly crowd didn't embrace Jericho more and chant CM Drunk. Oh well.....guess things were different in my day when it was acceptable to wear a Hawaiian shirt and a straw hat in the front row......

Ehh. Perhaps you're right but god damn it's such a cheesy storyline. He did this same thing almost w/ Jeff Hardy.. But that was hilarious and well done since Jeff was really a cracked out druggy loser.

This revision of the same angle is just awful imo.

[styckx]

lol @ Shane Douglas at RAW and the 2 people chanting ECW. The old ECW guys need to let it go. It's embarrassing they're still trying to hang on to it.. Let a dead dog lie already. You're in fucking Philly and can't get more then the two guys following you to chant ECW.. :lol::lol::lol:

During the Big Show vs. Kane match on Raw, former ECW World champion Shane Douglas pulled off a mask and ripped off an outer shirt, revealing himself to be sitting at ringside. Douglas then attempted to get fans to chant for ECW. It was obviously a promotional stunt to gain awareness for next month's Extreme Reunion event in Philadelphia.
Fans surrounding Douglas reacted and there were some small chants, but WWE's production crew quickly shot around Douglas during the last minute of the match.

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[cougarjake13]

Youre Bullshit. He shouted it twice.


He also said you're full of shit and I'm gonna beat it out of u

[TripleSkeet]

lol @ Shane Douglas at RAW and the 2 people chanting ECW. The old ECW guys need to let it go. It's embarrassing they're still trying to hang on to it.. Let a dead dog lie already. You're in fucking Philly and can't get more then the two guys following you to chant ECW.. :lol::lol::lol:



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I didnt even know it was him til I got home. I was kind of surprised to see some random guy get a big cheer as he was being escorted out.

[TripleSkeet]

If you know anything about Punk, this storyline doesn't bother him at all. Infact I think he embraces it. My confusion from the crowd is how they were so behind Punk with this straight edge stuff and not more in favor with Jericho. This is a town who loves to drink right? I was disappointed that this Philly crowd didn't embrace Jericho more and chant CM Drunk. Oh well.....guess things were different in my day when it was acceptable to wear a Hawaiian shirt and a straw hat in the front row......

Maybe if he was there he wouldve gotten a little more support. The whole "Youre gonna drink too" angle is really dumb. I liked it better when they were going for who the best wrestler right now really is.

[Bob Impact]

Ehh. Perhaps you're right but god damn it's such a cheesy storyline. He did this same thing almost w/ Jeff Hardy.. But that was hilarious and well done since Jeff was really a cracked out druggy loser.

This revision of the same angle is just awful imo.

He also did it with Raven before he got to WWE.

[conman823]

That Taker/HBK/HHH segment was rough and didn't do any real good at furthering the plot of that story plus Taker is growing worse on the mic.

I think there was just about enough of the Rock and Cena tonight. At this point the talk is cheap on both sides, where is the physicality? I'm not saying a match on RAW but how about the Rock costing Cena this match with Henry? Having 2 faces in a match is boring.

Punk/ Jericho is shaping up nicely. This will obviously be the best wrestled match of the night.

Still though I'm not sold on buying this PPV.

[Chimee]

Maybe if he was there he wouldve gotten a little more support. The whole "Youre gonna drink too" angle is really dumb. I liked it better when they were going for who the best wrestler right now really is.

I agree, the week where they opened the show and argued about why they should be called the best in the world was miles better than anything Cena and the Rock did that night.

[conman823]

WWE shut down FCW...

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Reportedly_Shutting_Down_Florida_Championship_ Wrestling.html

Triple H say's FCW is NOT shutting down....

http://blogs.thescore.com/wwe/2012/03/20/triple-h-says-fcw-will-not-be-shutting-down/#comments

[cougarjake13]

it wouldnt have made sense to shut it down they need new talent to come from somewhere

[TripleSkeet]

I think there was just about enough of the Rock and Cena tonight. At this point the talk is cheap on both sides, where is the physicality? I'm not saying a match on RAW but how about the Rock costing Cena this match with Henry? Having 2 faces in a match is boring.

This I agree with. I was hoping for a Cena posedown after his win followed by a sneak attack Rock Bottom. Then have Cena do the same to him this week. Kind of like they did with Rock and Austin awhile back. Instead from what I heard on Raw all they talked about was Cenas car accident, which was nothing but a fucking fender bender. Thats the kind of shit that annoys me with the WWE and Cena. Still trying to make him look like Superman. Someone rear ended him while they were stopped, he didnt roll his car then come and wrestle.

[cougarjake13]

What I heard was the car hit him from behind , flipped over his , women and children were trapped upside down and cena got out and flipped the car over and tore the seat belts in half and saved all inside just seconds before car exploding

[TripleSkeet]

What I heard was the car hit him from behind , flipped over his , women and children were trapped upside down and cena got out and flipped the car over and tore the seat belts in half and saved all inside just seconds before car exploding

Actually he just peeled the roof back like it was a can of tuna fish before ripping the seat belts off.

[TjM]

So Albert is coming back as Lord Tensai and getting a HUGE push :flush:


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[RingWraith]

So Albert is coming back as Lord Tensai and getting a HUGE push :flush:


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[TripleSkeet]

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/7/73/JeanLucPicardFacepalm.jpg/618px-JeanLucPicardFacepalm.jpg

I think it could work. Hes been out long enough where alot of the fans wont even remember him. Word is hes been doing really well wrestling in Japan.

[conman823]

If Lord Tensai can hold his own great, both shows need fresh blood.

[Melk]

I think it could work. Hes been out long enough where alot of the fans wont even remember him. Word is hes been doing really well wrestling in Japan.
I saw him wrestle once while in Japan. The New Japan and All Japan style fits wrestlers like Albert and Scott Norton very, very well. But being able to wrestle in Japan doesn't translate into WWE performance. Of course, the people who run the WWE are more to blame for the problem than the wrestlers who became successful in Japan. I mean, ECW's Taz or Rhino should have been great in the WWF/E but we all know how that whole thing went.

[Chimee]

I saw him wrestle once while in Japan. The New Japan and All Japan style fits wrestlers like Albert and Scott Norton very, very well. But being able to wrestle in Japan doesn't translate into WWE performance. Of course, the people who run the WWE are more to blame for the problem than the wrestlers who became successful in Japan. I mean, ECW's Taz or Rhino should have been great in the WWF/E but we all know how that whole thing went.

It's my sincere hope that the more Triple H takes over behind-the-scenes, the more the in-ring product improves. In 5 years I'm sure I'll be missing the days of Vince not being able to make up his mind about what direction the company is going in.

[cougarjake13]

Sadly it won't truly be triple h's until Vince is dead

[newport king]

Albert got himself some tribal tats huh? Current.

[Chimee]

Albert got himself some tribal tats huh? Current.

I'm pretty sure he got them when he started in Japan and was teaming with Tomko. It's like getting matching trunks only more EXTREME.

[cougarjake13]

I'm pretty sure he got them when he started in Japan and was teaming with Tomko. It's like getting matching trunks only more EXTREME.



Gonna be hard to switch gimmicks then

[paulisded]

Off-topic a bit, but last night I watched TNA (or whatever it's called these days) for the first time in months. Ooof! Towards the end, there was some sort of scripted fight outside the arena between a couple of wrestlers and a tow-truck guy. The tow-truck guy was "punched" by a swing that missed him by at least 6 inches. Seriously, it wasn't even close.

[cougarjake13]

I've totally forgotten impact is even on

[NickyL0885]

I've totally forgotten impact is even on

Because it's Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwful!

[cougarjake13]

I'm sorry but Daniel Bryan looks like a pedoPhile with that aj chick

[Chimee]

But she loves him and he thinks that's great.

[newport king]

Yes!

[cougarjake13]

Yes!



what happened ?

[newport king]

Daniel Bryan came out. He yelled it. It was awesome.

[cougarjake13]

Daniel Bryan came out. He yelled it. It was awesome.



came out as in gay ?

[cougarjake13]

oh u meant his stupid gimmick

nvrmind

[newport king]

Christian is terribly under used...does Khali have fake feet? The guy cant walk

[cougarjake13]

Christian is terribly under used...does Khali have fake feet? The guy cant walk



christian hasnt been around in a long time dont know where he went

[newport king]

He got hurt, he was announcing the main event on smackdown tonight

[cougarjake13]

He got hurt, he was announcing the main event on smackdown tonight



yeh but til tonight he wasnt even around doin that

[Chimee]

Christian has had one of the worst returns from injury that I've seen, he just randomly shows up and gets thrown into the middle of a terrible storyline for the "get everyone on the show" match.

[NickyL0885]

No wonder The Undertaker is wearing a hood.....

http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/undertaker_139089.jpg

[TripleSkeet]

No wonder The Undertaker is wearing a hood.....

http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/undertaker_139089.jpg

He should never smile in a photograph again. He looks like my grandpa in that picture.

[cougarjake13]

Looks like a cancer patient

[Kevin]

Is he gunna wear the hoodie while he is wrestling and will he get shot by a neighborhood watchman while wearing it?

[cougarjake13]

Is he gunna wear the hoodie while he is wrestling and will he get shot by a neighborhood watchman while wearing it?



It'll be Alberto del rio on a run in

[TripleSkeet]

Just watched the last Raw before Mania. Most of the show sucked. This Raw used to be one of the biggest of the year. locking every Mania match into place. Tonights....did nothing to get me hyped for Mania.

The only good part of the whole show was Cena and Rock at the end. Really felt both cut good promos. Man you can literally see how great Cena could be as a heel. He dropped a little heel personality just saying how in the end he always wins. And how it eats the people that hate him. Fucking WWE just uses him wrong. Hed be such a great heel.

They completely ruined Punk vs Jericho for me. I expect the match to be good but the buildup has completely fizzled for me. I love how people have buried The Rock yet 2 consecutive weeks before Mania the guy fighting for the WWE title doesnt show up on Raw and nobody makes a peep.

[conman823]

Just watched the last Raw before Mania. Most of the show sucked. This Raw used to be one of the biggest of the year. locking every Mania match into place. Tonights....did nothing to get me hyped for Mania.

The only good part of the whole show was Cena and Rock at the end. Really felt both cut good promos. Man you can literally see how great Cena could be as a heel. He dropped a little heel personality just saying how in the end he always wins. And how it eats the people that hate him. Fucking WWE just uses him wrong. Hed be such a great heel.

They completely ruined Punk vs Jericho for me. I expect the match to be good but the buildup has completely fizzled for me. I love how people have buried The Rock yet 2 consecutive weeks before Mania the guy fighting for the WWE title doesnt show up on Raw and nobody makes a peep.

Jericho not showing up was completely unforgivable. Everyone should have been shitting on him, your right.

I was hoping that tonight Cena and The Rock would solve thier issues through words and not resort to physicality.

Someone was finally wise enough to keep the Undertaker away from the mic lest he call the PPV Slamboree.

That show fuckin BLEW MONKEY ASS and I am more on the side of NOT ordering this PPV and just going to watch it at a bar.

[Sue_Bender]

Jericho not showing up was completely unforgivable. Everyone should have been shitting on him, your right.

I was hoping that tonight Cena and The Rock would solve thier issues through words and not resort to physicality.

Someone was finally wise enough to keep the Undertaker away from the mic lest he call the PPV Slamboree.

That show fuckin BLEW MONKEY ASS and I am more on the side of NOT ordering this PPV and just going to watch it at a bar.

Horrible show.


However, Jericho WAS in the building.

[paulisded]

Terrible show...and one thing that really made me roll my eyes is the stupidity in the Raw vs. Smackdown script. Besides the fact too much time was devoted to what is going to end up being a joke match, why do you have the announcement of Miz being added to the group BEFORE the Christian injury? Those matches should have been switched around.

[Kevin]

Just watched the last Raw before Mania. Most of the show sucked. This Raw used to be one of the biggest of the year. locking every Mania match into place. Tonights....did nothing to get me hyped for Mania.

The only good part of the whole show was Cena and Rock at the end. Really felt both cut good promos. Man you can literally see how great Cena could be as a heel. He dropped a little heel personality just saying how in the end he always wins. And how it eats the people that hate him. Fucking WWE just uses him wrong. Hed be such a great heel.

They completely ruined Punk vs Jericho for me. I expect the match to be good but the buildup has completely fizzled for me. I love how people have buried The Rock yet 2 consecutive weeks before Mania the guy fighting for the WWE title doesnt show up on Raw and nobody makes a peep.

I agree with everything you said there.

Jehricho should not be allowed to attend any wwe event ever again. Its a shame he took a spot that many work all their lives and would kill for and mailed it in.

He spit in the face of the entire industry.

A WM spot for a title is sacred ground, even though its not main event.

[Kevin]

Terrible show...and one thing that really made me roll my eyes is the stupidity in the Raw vs. Smackdown script. Besides the fact too much time was devoted to what is going to end up being a joke match, why do you have the announcement of Miz being added to the group BEFORE the Christian injury? Those matches should have been switched around.

And what an awful awful team team Teddy is.

You could not find ANYONE young from the back to be the last guy?

Booker? Seriously?

And I keep watching this slop like an idiot

[TripleSkeet]

I agree with everything you said there.

Jehricho should not be allowed to attend any wwe event ever again. Its a shame he took a spot that many work all their lives and would kill for and mailed it in.

He spit in the face of the entire industry.

A WM spot for a title is sacred ground, even though its not main event.

Im not completely burying Jericho because to be honest, I dont know why he wasnt there. And by there I meant live out in the ring. For all I know this could be some retarded scriptwriting move in order to keep the 2 seperated before Wrestlemania. Another move that they seem to be doing recently. Im thinking of all the big matches for Mania, they are hardly letting any of these guys get physical with each other! Taker / HHH, Cena / Rock, Jericho / Punk....they havent touched each other yet! It seems like someone got it into Vinc head that if you let these guys hit each other before the PPV, nobody will pay to see it. Stupid fucking mentality. All theyve done is bury any steam they had going into it.

[paulisded]

Im not completely burying Jericho because to be honest, I dont know why he wasnt there. And by there I meant live out in the ring. For all I know this could be some retarded scriptwriting move in order to keep the 2 seperated before Wrestlemania. Another move that they seem to be doing recently. Im thinking of all the big matches for Mania, they are hardly letting any of these guys get physical with each other! Taker / HHH, Cena / Rock, Jericho / Punk....they havent touched each other yet! It seems like someone got it into Vinc head that if you let these guys hit each other before the PPV, nobody will pay to see it. Stupid fucking mentality. All theyve done is bury any steam they had going into it.

I was also wondering that, and really expected Rock and Cena to end the show being separated by security after going at it for a minute or two. It's incredible that the only WM rivalry that has had some sort of physical altercations is the Team Teddy/Team John silliness.

[TripleSkeet]

Its embarrassing. I dont know who is responsible for this way of thinking but they should be fucking hanged. Theres 1000 ways to have to guys get physical without having a match. And nobody is gonna say "Well I already saw him hit him with a Rock Bottom, no need to buy Wrestlemania now." The logic is fucking baffling.

[brettmojo]

Last night's Cena is a Cena I could cheer. They need to let him be that guy.

Yeah, not buying WM. I don't have any confidence in it.

[cougarjake13]

I keep waiting for rock to say something like u couldn't leave cause the movies u did sucked and no one called for u to do non wwe movies whenever cena brings up that rock left

[TripleSkeet]

I keep waiting for rock to say something like u couldn't leave cause the movies u did sucked and no one called for u to do non wwe movies whenever cena brings up that rock left

Im sure hed love to just drop a bomb like "Your movies made No Holds Barred look like The Godfather. You didnt stay in the WWE, you just didnt have anywhere else to go". But Im sure Vince wouldnt be happy with that. Especially considering hes still trying to make those horrendous movies.

[conman823]

They Have swung the pendulum too far in the "storytelling" direct. They kept them all separated for the sake of building drama. That would have been fine if it was only the case with HHH/Taker we've seen them beat each other to death countless times.

I hated the storyline turn of the Punk/Jericho match from the best in the world too the drunk druggy Brooks family. That match should have been about PURE heel/face wrestling.

They let Stephs team of soap opera writers get into thier heads too much

[Chimee]

I have no problem with Jericho not being live on the show for the past few weeks because they've built up Punk's mindset that if he sees Jericho, he's going to kill them. Now that face to face has been saved for Wrestlemania.

[TripleSkeet]

I have no problem with Jericho not being live on the show for the past few weeks because they've built up Punk's mindset that if he sees Jericho, he's going to kill them. Now that face to face has been saved for Wrestlemania.

Yeeeaaa um...I dont care how they bill it, the guy fighting for the WWE Heavyweight title at Wrestlemania should be live on the Raws leading up to it. Come on now.

[Kevin]

I keep waiting for rock to say something like u couldn't leave cause the movies u did sucked and no one called for u to do non wwe movies whenever cena brings up that rock left

I agree...

However... HOWEVA (Stephan A Smith)

When Rock did his movies he was gone for months at a time.

Even when Cena did movies he was still at Raw almost every week.

Maybe Rocks movies were more actions and took more of his time, or remote locations..

I can't remember the movies rock did during that time.

That movie with stiffler was in Brazil but I do not know if that was before or after he left for acting full-time.

[Chimee]

I agree...

However... HOWEVA (Stephan A Smith)

When Rock did his movies he was gone for months at a time.

Even when Cena did movies he was still at Raw almost every week.

Maybe Rocks movies were more actions and took more of his time, or remote locations..

I can't remember the movies rock did during that time.

That movie with stiffler was in Brazil but I do not know if that was before or after he left for acting full-time.

I remember something about Cena flying into whatever city RAW was in each week and then flying back the next day to continue shooting.

[brettmojo]

I remember something about Cena flying into whatever city RAW was in each week and then flying back the next day to continue shooting.
What a waste of jet fuel. Rock would roll ripping him over that.

[cougarjake13]

I remember something about Cena flying into whatever city RAW was in each week and then flying back the next day to continue shooting.



He did mummy returns and scorpion king and the rundown in 01 02 and 03 and he left around 2003

[newport king]

Ok, first Raw after Mania is usually the best. Also HOF inductions will be shown at 8

[Kevin]

Did they just seriously mute the word Christ?

really?

[danlaroe]

I never ever watch this shit and the way these people worship the rock is fucking insane

[Kevin]

disappointing, I would have liked Cena to come out during that.

[NickyL0885]

Rock won't be the champ. Why in the world would they have a champ that shows a few times a year?

[Kevin]

The name dolph ziggler, entrance song, and nick name "the show off" are the main reason i can't take this guy seriously.

[RingWraith]

The name dolph ziggler, entrance song, and nick name "the show off" are the main reason i can't take this guy seriously.

I wonder how many nicknames did they go thru until they finally decided on that one. hah!

[newport king]

Im hoping the "YES!" chant becomes the new "what?" And their forced to turn D Bryan face.

[newport king]

Yes all those things suck, but DESPITE that, hes still very good

[Kevin]

For a shit sports town

Miami is really LIVE tonight.

[Kevin]

Yes all those things suck, but DESPITE that, hes still very good

Thats what suck about it.

He is really good.

[cougarjake13]

For a shit sports town

Miami is really LIVE tonight.

There's tons of non miamians

Shit ton of England peeps I've seen

[NickyL0885]

Somebody Call My Momma!

[cougarjake13]

Rock won't be the champ. Why in the world would they have a champ that shows a few times a year?


They'll give him a final run like they did with hogan that last time
Not a long one mind u prob like a run up to winning title and then he'll vacate it to leave as a champ without losing

[cougarjake13]

Im hoping the "YES!" chant becomes the new "what?" And their forced to turn D Bryan face.



And somehow fans already had signs

[TripleSkeet]

Raws been really good so far. I love that they are pushing Santino. He always entertains. And he gets sick pops.

[Kevin]

Alex Reilly's career is going well...

[newport king]

How does the kid in the green shirt and hat get front for for mania and raw....AND WEAR THE SAME CLOTHES

[TripleSkeet]

They'll give him a final run like they did with hogan that last time
Not a long one mind u prob like a run up to winning title and then he'll vacate it to leave as a champ without losing

If he gets the belt I seriously doubt hed just leave without dropping it to someone. I dont where this refusal to job rep is coming from. Am I the only one that remembers him coming back, and trying to turn heel just to put Goldberg over?

[TripleSkeet]

How does the kid in the green shirt and hat get front for for mania and raw....AND WEAR THE SAME CLOTHE@


Im pretty sure hes in with Cena. Hes probably got some life threatening disease. Hes the only person Ive seen wearing that gear either night, and last night Cena threw his shirt right to him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

How does the kid in the green shirt and hat get front for for mania and raw....AND WEAR THE SAME CLOTHES

given my experiences with ROH fans, you're telling me certain dedicated wrestling fans have bad hygiene? I'm shocked... SHOCKED by this revelation.

[TripleSkeet]

The crowd is pretty awesome tonight. Not often you hear a "Lets go Reilly" chant. Also, its nice to finally see someone bring back the claw. Very underrated submission hold.

[asayresk]

Hey Prince Albert is back.:huh:

[newport king]

Ive noticed the same old lady, with cena at HOF he gave his dog tags to her last night, and tonight shes behind king and cole. Im assuming cenas grandmother

[cougarjake13]

Alex Reilly's career is going well...


Fuck I totally forgot he was even on roster til he popped up for the squash

[cougarjake13]

How does the kid in the green shirt and hat get front for for mania and raw....AND WEAR THE SAME CLOTHES



How he got tix I dunno but by wearing same outfit or at least a second version of same outfit people will recognize him

[asayresk]

I love how Mark Henry is trash talking during the match.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hey Prince Albert is back.:huh:

he's been in New Japan all these years. I think he went back in '05

[Kevin]

I DESPISE the what?! chants.

But am LOVING the YES! chants.

[TripleSkeet]

Wait a minute, is that kid in the green that AIDS victim looking rapper that sang for Cena last night? He resembles him.

[cougarjake13]

I love how Mark Henry is trash talking during the match.



And I'm pretty sure he cursed but they beeped out Rock saying Christ

[TripleSkeet]

I hope this is the start of another Henry push. This "im gonna turn you into an alcoholic" gimmick is beyond gay.

[NickyL0885]

Anyone else lose it when Jericho slipped while trying to stomp Punk?