Monday Night RAW Discussion

[Chimee]

This might have already been done at some point in WWE history, but I think that when Alberto Del Rio is cutting a heel promo, instead of chanting "WHAT?", the audience should chant "QUE?"

The audience isn't nearly that creative.

[Dirtbag]

Half the audience wasn't even alive when the "What?" thing started. It really needs to go away.

[CYYYFYYY]

I am really liking what they are doing with the Truth.
Does anyone remember that his rookie won on NXT and him and his rookie are supposed to get a tag team title match.

[brettmojo]

The Chyna thing worked longer because of the Dgeneration shit. Beth Phoenix was bigger than the others but nothing like this bitch, and her stock dropped once she was beat. The only way out is the mismatched couple storyline with somebody like Santino.
Yeah I was just pointing out how they've rode this donkey before.

[cougarjake13]

I am really liking what they are doing with the Truth.
Does anyone remember that his rookie won on NXT and him and his rookie are supposed to get a tag team title match.

r u serious ??


its annoying as hell







nope have no clue

[cougarjake13]

This might have already been done at some point in WWE history, but I think that when Alberto Del Rio is cutting a heel promo, instead of chanting "WHAT?", the audience should chant "QUE?"

no way the wwe universe is smart enough

[cougarjake13]

Half the audience wasn't even alive when the "What?" thing started. It really needs to go away.

it wont



sadly its been handed down like a right of passage



25 yrs from now crowds will still do it

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/AdWFs.gif

[CruelCircus]

The Chyna thing worked longer because of the Dgeneration shit. Beth Phoenix was bigger than the others but nothing like this bitch, and her stock dropped once she was beat. The only way out is the mismatched couple storyline with somebody like Santino.

The Chyna thing worked because she never competed in the women's division.

She was the Intercontinental Champion, but never the Women's Champion.

[Dirtbag]

The Chyna thing worked because she never competed in the women's division.

She was the Intercontinental Champion, but never the Women's Champion.
From WWE.com (http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/women/304454132121112113):

Chyna was indestructable in the women's division. She faced Ivory at WrestleMania X-Seven and finished her off in short order with a powerbomb and a gorilla press slam. Chyna held the championship until she left WWE at which point there was a six-way match to determine a new champion.

[CruelCircus]

Wow, I totally don't remember that. I stand corrected.

Even being reminded of it, I still don't recall that match at all.
Was that when Ivory was doing the Censorship thing w/ Stevie Richards?

I guess my basic point still holds, though. She didn't get involved with fighting the women until very late in her career. If she had, they never could have kept her as a monster who can go toe to toe with men.

[BigRigRichard]

i remember chyna as women's champ, wasn't she with eddie guerrero at the time? think it was late 99 or even 2000.

[StanUpshaw]

Chyna
April 1, 2001
Houston, TX
WrestleMania X-Seven
Chyna retired with the championship (214 days).

[BigRigRichard]

WOW do you know your wrestling soap opera stan! Way to go !!!

[cougarjake13]

i remember chyna as women's champ, wasn't she with eddie guerrero at the time? think it was late 99 or even 2000.




i think so

[styckx]

Karma is like the HHH of the womans division except she doesn't have to work to bury careers in seconds.

[cougarjake13]

Karma is like the HHH of the womans division except she doesn't have to work to bury careers in seconds.



im calling it now


its looking like theyre doing a king kong with the blonde beauty thing with her and kelly kelly


fucking stupid and pretty much racist

[TripleSkeet]

im calling it now


its looking like theyre doing a king kong with the blonde beauty thing with her and kelly kelly


fucking stupid and pretty much racist

Whats more racist? The angle? Or actually calling her Kong?

[cougarjake13]

Whats more racist? The angle? Or actually calling her Kong?

theyre both racist but i think shes the one who came up with the awesome kong name

[NickyL0885]

R-Truth is just awful. Playing the angry black guy role.

[Space Edge]

Ric Flair is definitely my favorite wrestler of all time but Bret Hart's Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/brethart) profile pic is hilarious

http://i.imgur.com/SZdmF.jpg

[styckx]

lol @ the TNA ...er I mean "Impact" commercial during RAW.. So much wrong with that

[styckx]

Wow, Vince is a human.. Whole segment dedicated to Macho Man.

[StanUpshaw]

Miz has a tiny mouth. He looks like a carp.

[TripleSkeet]

Miz has a tiny mouth. He looks like a carp.

One of the few things R-Truth has gotten right. He looks like Kermit the Frog.

[TripleSkeet]

Cant believe that through the whole night, the only wrestler to pay any homage to the Macho Man was CM Punk. Not one flying elbow from any of them??? Really??? Is Punk the only one with any sense of history?

Probably one of the reasons hes the only thing thats got me still watching Raw. The show overall has gone back to being dogshit. Oh but DONT CYBERBULLY! Faggots.

[conman823]

Shut up Skeet or I'm gonna post a video of you watching the last TNA PPV.

[Dirtbag]

Wow, Drew McEntire sighting.

Vaguely related, when I first watched Spartacus: Gods of the Arena, I had to pause it to check IMDB. I really thought Drew had taken time off to play Gannicus.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SLyJ2JG1cAw/Tbt83JVRD5I/AAAAAAAABao/C27zz0Yb6-k/s1600/Drew+McIntyre3.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-957TjCgi2n4/TWsEKZuc-8I/AAAAAAAABBk/Q4mQzzFQX68/s1600/Gannicus%2B1.jpg

[CYYYFYYY]

I actually like what the Truth is doing. I think he plays a good angry Black man and he is the first wrestler in a bit who says I WANT THE TITLE and he actually has to win matches to get a title shot.

[Chimee]

I like R-Truth's stuff to an extent. He's doing a great job of showing that he's pissed off about being looked over for title shots, but then all of his promos seem to run way too long and start sounding way too rambling.

I hate that they take Kharma from destroying every diva she's in the ring with to crying in the middle of the ring. They should have had her destroy every one of the divas until it was her and Beth Phoenix in the ring and have her smile and walk away as Beth gives that serious look she does.

And it really shows just how much heat that The Miz have when the crowd starts chanting for his goofy sidekick the second he shows some anger toward The Miz.

That was a good enough segment, but then they go and have Alberto Del Rio go and blame all his problems on his sidekick.

[TripleSkeet]

Shut up Skeet or I'm gonna post a video of you watching the last TNA PPV.

Is it a 3 hour video of a guy staring at a screen with a WTF? face?

[TripleSkeet]

I like R-Truth's stuff to an extent. He's doing a great job of showing that he's pissed off about being looked over for title shots, but then all of his promos seem to run way too long and start sounding way too rambling.

I hate that they take Kharma from destroying every diva she's in the ring with to crying in the middle of the ring. They should have had her destroy every one of the divas until it was her and Beth Phoenix in the ring and have her smile and walk away as Beth gives that serious look she does.

And it really shows just how much heat that The Miz have when the crowd starts chanting for his goofy sidekick the second he shows some anger toward The Miz.

That was a good enough segment, but then they go and have Alberto Del Rio go and blame all his problems on his sidekick.

I hate to say it but Truth is growing on me a little. I HATED his last gimmick, and now he does the complete opposite, which I like, but youre right, he needs to cut that shit down some.

Ive always liked Riley and think he can be a star in the WWE.

[conman823]

I am glad to see Michael Cole go back to being just a commentator.

R-Truths character is definitely better than his face character. I also feel like he's walking the fine line of going off on "whiteys holding me back ".

Karma= WTF?

The Miz is back in the mid card where he belongs.

The Big Show hit by a car segment ran too long. The longer those angles run the worse it looks.

[RingWraith]

I am glad to see Michael Cole go back to being just a commentator.

R-Truths character is definitely better than his face character. I also feel like he's walking the fine line of going off on "whiteys holding me back ".

Karma= WTF?

The Miz is back in the mid card where he belongs.

The Big Show hit by a car segment ran too long. The longer those angles run the worse it looks.

Apparently, Kharma is being written off TV for 9 months. Hence the reason for the weird segment involving her. No official reason why she's taken off, but many assume that she's pregnant. Here's a link....

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/report-kharma-written-off-wwe-tv-last-night-major-details-130381

[cougarjake13]

The Big Show hit by a car segment ran too long. The longer those angles run the worse it looks.


i thought it ran long maybe because they fucked up and really ran over big show

[Tenbatsuzen]

Apparently, Kharma is being written off TV for 9 months. Hence the reason for the weird segment involving her. No official reason why she's taken off, but many assume that she's pregnant. Here's a link....

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/report-kharma-written-off-wwe-tv-last-night-major-details-130381

If she was pregnant, you'd have to write her off for longer than 9 months. Gotta be something else.

[RingWraith]

If she was pregnant, you'd have to write her off for longer than 9 months. Gotta be something else.

I totally agree.

[cougarjake13]

I totally agree.



not if shes already along a moth or 2 and just found out

[Tenbatsuzen]

not if shes already along a moth or 2 and just found out

She'd need to spend time with the kid and also get back into ring shape. 9 months is a very weird number to use. She's not pregnant.

[StanUpshaw]

Plus it would require someone placing their cock in her.

[TripleSkeet]

PWInsider is reporting shes pregnant.

[Sue_Bender]

Plus it would require someone placing their cock in her.

Who's got it worse in this relationship?

http://www.pwpix.net/images/couples/awesome-kong-dan-ouellette/gallery1/awesome-kong-01.jpg

[Bob Impact]

Who's got it worse in this relationship?

http://www.pwpix.net/images/couples/awesome-kong-dan-ouellette/gallery1/awesome-kong-01.jpg

Their bed.

[cougarjake13]

Who's got it worse in this relationship?

http://www.pwpix.net/images/couples/awesome-kong-dan-ouellette/gallery1/awesome-kong-01.jpg



christ i feel so bad for scott steiner


fat and having to fuck her

[Fallon]

Wow, Drew McEntire sighting.

Vaguely related, when I first watched Spartacus: Gods of the Arena, I had to pause it to check IMDB. I really thought Drew had taken time off to play Gannicus.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SLyJ2JG1cAw/Tbt83JVRD5I/AAAAAAAABao/C27zz0Yb6-k/s1600/Drew+McIntyre3.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-957TjCgi2n4/TWsEKZuc-8I/AAAAAAAABBk/Q4mQzzFQX68/s1600/Gannicus%2B1.jpg

Apparently he kicked Tiffany to the curb and got a match on Raw. Don't think WWE liked her very much.

[cougarjake13]

Apparently he kicked Tiffany to the curb and got a match on Raw. Don't think WWE liked her very much.

i barely even know who she is


i think she was ecw gm or something wasnt she ?

[Heather 8]

She'd need to spend time with the kid and also get back into ring shape. 9 months is a very weird number to use. She's not pregnant.

Except she is.

According to her, she'll be out about a year.

[cougarjake13]

wow alex riley getting huge pops


maybe they can not fuck it up

[MagillaGorillaz]

oh my god

[styckx]

I held off, I resisted, I really fought it but... I'm on the R-Truth bandwagon.. That fucker somehow won me over finally.

[RingWraith]

I held off, I resisted, I really fought it but... I'm on the R-Truth bandwagon.. That fucker somehow won me over finally.

well, he is a million times more entertaining than before, thats for sure.

[styckx]

I can't quite put my finger on what makes Kofi Kingston so incredibly anti climatic.

I mean, he's energetic, a great worker, consistent, makes scrubs look great in the ring, colorful... Everything a "star" has.. But there is nothing there. If he disappeared tomorrow no one would notice him missing.

[Sue_Bender]

I can't quite put my finger on what makes Kofi Kingston so incredibly anti climatic.

I mean, he's energetic, a great worker, consistent, makes scrubs look great in the ring, colorful... Everything a "star" has.. But there is nothing there. If he disappeared tomorrow no one would notice him missing.

He's a black Marty Jannety.

It's a lack of personality. Nothing to emotionally invest in...

[styckx]

He's a black Marty Jannety.


God damn.. That's it... You nailed it preciously. :lol:

[brettmojo]

http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kellyexhibitionist.gif

[TripleSkeet]

http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kellyexhibitionist.gif

Paul Heymans last great wrestling act.

[cougarjake13]

http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kellyexhibitionist.gif

i keep watching hoping she'll move her hands

[Kevin]

Anyone else think Booker T looked like a black Randy The Ram on Raw?

[cougarjake13]

Anyone else think Booker T looked like a black Randy The Ram on Raw?




yes !!!:clap::clap:

[conman823]

I think Booker looked good out there. He's still in great shape and his timing was good.

Ric Flair is more Randy the ram at this point

[Kevin]

I think Booker looked good out there. He's still in great shape and his timing was good.

Ric Flair is more Randy the ram at this point


I just mean the hair the look.

[styckx]

Just when you think Pipers beer belly couldn't get any larger..

[paulisded]

Just when you think Pipers beer belly couldn't get any larger..

He looks awful.

[styckx]

Seriously. He's terrible..

And Jesus Christ.. WWE stocks dropping, buy rates plummeting and they seriously have one of the bigger and more entertaining people on the roster lose to Piper...

.....

...

Who's booking this shit?

[paulisded]

Seriously. He's terrible..

And Jesus Christ.. WWE stocks dropping, buy rates plummeting and they seriously have one of the bigger and more entertaining people on the roster lose to Piper...

.....

...

Who's booking this shit?

It's idiotic how a so-called "All-Star" night is really just another Raw.

[styckx]

It's actually one of the worst booked and written shows I've ever seen.. This is to sell PPV's and it's terribly boring.. The crowd has been asleep through nearly all of it.. Austin is there and it sucks.

[styckx]

What the fuck is this shit? 12 Diva Tag Match?

Are You Serious?

[styckx]

http://www.dembot.net/images/facepalm/mosaic_facepalm.jpg

[paulisded]

WTF was the purpose of that "Broadway tribute"??? And you have 14 of those whores out there to "wrestle" for 2 minutes?

[styckx]

WTF was the purpose of that "Broadway tribute"??? And you have 14 of those whores out there to "wrestle" for 2 minutes?

You have to wonder if Nash is running this show while screening the WCW Nitro DVD set at the same time.

[paulisded]

Oooooh, Austin ruined a laptop with beer! Shocking!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[styckx]

This is awful.. And ANOTHER 3hr RAW? And it will be ran by the people? Is it CyberMonday???

Vince keeps this up he'll have no other option but to bring back the Attitude Era he's hell bent on never returning too.

[cougarjake13]

Just when you think Pipers beer belly couldn't get any larger..

believe or not hes actually lost weight since the last time he was on raw

[cougarjake13]

What the fuck is this shit? 12 Diva Tag Match?

Are You Serious?

and it ends in 1 minute


why even bother

[styckx]

You couldn't make the ending of the show any more anti-climatic if you tried.

[Sue_Bender]

Just when you think Pipers beer belly couldn't get any larger..

He was MUCH thinner (almost fragile) tonight.

However, after beating (as we speak) Cancer, what would you like, Tough Guy?

[TripleSkeet]

At this point I just hope the WWE ratings and buyrates get worse and worse and the stock price goes even lower until hes so desperate he has no choice but to go back to marketing to males 18-40. He cant even get his tv channel hes been fighting so hard for now because nobody wants to invest in it thanks to his ratings.

I dont think hed have that problem if he was pulling in the 7s and 8s he was grabbing back then in the "Era that shall not be named".

[Sue_Bender]

At this point I just hope the WWE ratings and buyrates get worse and worse and the stock price goes even lower until hes so desperate he has no choice but to go back to marketing to males 18-40. He cant even get his tv channel hes been fighting so hard for now because nobody wants to invest in it thanks to his ratings.

I dont think hed have that problem if he was pulling in the 7s and 8s he was grabbing back then in the "Era that shall not be named".

Tonight's show was mostly horrendous.

Next week's "choices" from the universe will be weak as well.

The stipulations will be heavily-weighted, if truly counted at all.

[styckx]

It seriously sounds like CyberSunday rehashed for TV... When WWE is giving away renamed PPVs on TV... They're desperate as shit..

What is sad, is nearly any RAW from the mid to late 90's could be passed off as a ***** PPV now.

[TripleSkeet]

It seriously sounds like CyberSunday rehashed for TV... When WWE is giving away renamed PPVs on TV... They're desperate as shit..

What is sad, is nearly any RAW from the mid to late 90's could be passed off as a ***** PPV now.

I watch it every month on WWE Classics. Right now they are in May / June of 98. Its unbelievable how much better the show was. Phenominal storylines, matches and promos (although horrendously edited for the new PG WWE)

Even Nitro which at that time was on its way down was 10 times better then the shit they show on Raw and TNA now.

[Chimee]

WTF was the purpose of that "Broadway tribute"??? And you have 14 of those whores out there to "wrestle" for 2 minutes?

It was for the benefit of those of us with DVR. It was great to watch that all skip by along with most of the rest of the show.

[cougarjake13]

It seriously sounds like CyberSunday rehashed for TV... When WWE is giving away renamed PPVs on TV... They're desperate as shit..

What is sad, is nearly any RAW from the mid to late 90's could be passed off as a ***** PPV now.

theyve done the cyber monday gimmick a few times on raw last few years


and if it was truly bout fans pick then it wouldnt be predetermined options for the universe to pick to which they can make results look like the universe picked punk vs cena in a hell in a cell


cause if it was a real universe pick then we might have a match up that doesnt conveniently fit into a storyline already going on

[Chimee]

theyve done the cyber monday gimmick a few times on raw last few years


and if it was truly bout fans pick then it wouldnt be predetermined options for the universe to pick to which they can make results look like the universe picked punk vs cena in a hell in a cell


cause if it was a real universe pick then we might have a match up that doesnt conveniently fit into a storyline already going on

It's also a matter of the majority of fans are complete idiots who will vote along with the matches that they lead them to vote for such as anything involving Hornswoggle.

[conman823]

Are these 3 hour RAWS due to Tough Enough ending early? They would have had a few more episodes if not for the injuries.

Either way 3 hours of programming is hard enough but throw in an upcoming PPV that is about the quality of a episode of Smackdown and Stone Cold overkill its just a rough watch.

Next week is a skip for me. Hookey matches the results of a bad PPV I'll pass and see the AM RAW.

[Chimee]

Are these 3 hour RAWS due to Tough Enough ending early? They would have had a few more episodes if not for the injuries.

Either way 3 hours of programming is hard enough but throw in an upcoming PPV that is about the quality of a episode of Smackdown and Stone Cold overkill its just a rough watch.

Next week is a skip for me. Hookey matches the results of a bad PPV I'll pass and see the AM RAW.

I think they had announced them at around the same time as Tough Enough started taping, so they probably would've started doing a bunch of double eliminations if everyone had stuck around to be kicked off.

[neezy201]

They need to end the anonymous general manager bit and just put somebody in.

[conman823]

Jerry Lawler for RAW GM.

[cougarjake13]

They need to end the anonymous general manager bit and just put somebody in.

really thought it was gonna end at mania if not sooner than that


i cant believe its gone this long

[brettmojo]

They need to end the anonymous general manager bit and just put somebody in.
ENTER JACK TUNNEY JR.!!!

[NickyL0885]

really thought it was gonna end at mania if not sooner than that


i cant believe its gone this long

Honestly, I don't think they know who should be the GM. It can't be someone lame. If revealed, it would have to be someone huge. Although, I can see them screwing this up.

[cougarjake13]

Honestly, I don't think they know who should be the GM. It can't be someone lame. If revealed, it would have to be someone huge. Although, I can see them screwing this up.

you know its prob been 5 diff people by now and every time they were maybe gonna reveal something prob came up to change vinces mind



maybe bret hart was gonna be it or rock mazybe stone cold who knows and then maybe even cole

[StanUpshaw]

Vince Sr. from beyond the grave.

Or Linda

Or Shane

Or Trump

[Dirtbag]

They already blew it when it wasn't the Rock. Anything else will be a letdown. But Mick Foley is now done with TNA and probably on his way back to WWE.

[cougarjake13]

Vince Sr. from beyond the grave.

Or Linda

Or Shane

Or Trump

i would accept shane

doubtful though

[cougarjake13]

They already blew it when it wasn't the Rock. Anything else will be a letdown. But Mick Foley is now done with TNA and probably on his way back to WWE.

that would suck

[Chimee]

i would accept shane

doubtful though

Maybe Shane can lead a Chinese invasion angle.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Anonymous RAW gm: Little Jimmy

[conman823]

Its sad that there is no concrete person for this angle to end.

WCW quality booking at best.

I think Lawler would be a good candidate, it would give someone else a slot on the commentary Booth and Lawler is a great talker. The angle would write itself

[dxgurl69]

who saw night"s WWE PPV?

[CruelCircus]

Maybe Shane can lead a Chinese invasion angle.

Shane was hanging with Rory McIlroy's dad at the US Open.
Showed up on TV.

[styckx]

omgz r u txtin ur votes 4 matches?

[styckx]

Ok.. This is fixed.. No one in their right mind would vote for an arm wrestling match.

[cougarjake13]

omgz r u txtin ur votes 4 matches?

no

[NickyL0885]

This little jimmy stuff is actually starting to crack me up.

[Dirtbag]

I'm sure I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but I hope something comes of this "Punk is leaving" thing.

[TripleSkeet]

I'm sure I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but I hope something comes of this "Punk is leaving" thing.

Yea it will. Punk will actually leave. His contract is up next month.

[TjM]

Yea it will. Punk will actually leave. His contract is up next month.

He might not. Cena asked to be placed in this fued with the hope that Punk will stay. (They want to prove to the office Punk can draw, Also Punk wants to see if they treat him like a main eventer)

[TjM]

This little jimmy stuff is actually starting to crack me up.

I had no idea I'd get got by little jimmy! :lol:

[Chimee]

It's good to see that they're going out of their way to get Punk to re-sign. He's one of the few people I enjoy watching on RAW.

[NickyL0885]

It's good to see that they're going out of their way to get Punk to re-sign. He's one of the few people I enjoy watching on RAW.

I wonder if him talking about his contract was his idea and that management had no idea he would say that.

[Chimee]

I wonder if him talking about his contract was his idea and that management had no idea he would say that.

I think talking about it is all pre-approved because it was the focus of the show going forward and the PPV is already being hyped around it. Punk saying "wrestler," on the other hand, probably wasn't well received in the back.

[TjM]

Watching the DVR now. I'm loving Rtruth

"I axed myself self who gonna try an getcha!"

[TripleSkeet]

On Twitter all he talks about is going out with a bang, knowing he was done from the start of the year, etc. Who knows, he could just be working everybody.

[conman823]

Punk leaving would be good. He can then make a good comeback ala Jericho.

Giving credit where its do, they have made Ronny Truth interesting and entertaining.

I like Booker t on color. He might not be the best but he's trying. I'm just sick of 3 man teams.

I still don't understand why there are so many PPVs I want an answer from someone somewhere. That last cards was unbuyable.

[cougarjake13]

only thing is if it isnt a work then the match is anti climatic cause theres no way in hell vince allows him to win the title and leave

[Chimee]

only thing is if it isnt a work then the match is anti climatic cause theres no way in hell vince allows him to win the title and leave

But it's the Money in the Bank PPV, they could have him win, then have one of the MITB winners cash in and beat him. Nobody likes short title reigns, but it's not exactly like WWE gives a shit about that.

[cougarjake13]

But it's the Money in the Bank PPV, they could have him win, then have one of the MITB winners cash in and beat him. Nobody likes short title reigns, but it's not exactly like WWE gives a shit about that.

yes but that lives too much up to chance

what if he decides you know what fuck vince ill take the strap from cena and let em think ill let the mitb guy take it from me but as soon as i win over cena ill run into crowd with belt and show up in tna or roh

[TripleSkeet]

yes but that lives too much up to chance

what if he decides you know what fuck vince ill take the strap from cena and let em think ill let the mitb guy take it from me but as soon as i win over cena ill run into crowd with belt and show up in tna or roh

That would fucking RULE ALL. But I doubt hed do it. Hes relatively young and that would pretty much guarantee hed never have a career in the WWE again.

[Chimee]

Chicago Screwjob?

[conman823]

It has been 20 years since Ric Flair ran that angle with the NWA Title.

[foodcourtdruide]

That would fucking RULE ALL. But I doubt hed do it. Hes relatively young and that would pretty much guarantee hed never have a career in the WWE again.

Bret Hart literally spit in Vince's face and punched him in the face and he came back.

[TjM]

yes but that lives too much up to chance

what if he decides you know what fuck vince ill take the strap from cena and let em think ill let the mitb guy take it from me but as soon as i win over cena ill run into crowd with belt and show up in tna or roh



I think Punk has more honor than that

[Dirtbag]

Bret Hart literally spit in Vince's face and punched him in the face and he came back.

As much as I love the guy, CM Punk is not Bret Hart. Plus, Vince kinda deserved it.

[TripleSkeet]

Bret Hart literally spit in Vince's face and punched him in the face and he came back.

Yea but Luger left the night after a PPV without notice, and was never offered a spot to come back.

Jarrett held Vince hostage for a huge payday because his contract expired the day before he was supposed to drop the IC title, and he never got another offer again either.

Vince seems to take business screwovers alot more personal then actual personal assaults. Hes been know to dislike wrestlers that dont stand up to him because he considers them pussies.

Now if the wrestler can make a HUGE impact and a boatload of cash by coming back, like Hogan, Bret Hart, the nWo etc. he obviously puts shit aside. But I dont think CM Punk falls into that category.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, Punk left the same identical tweet before a big PPV for ROH. Right before he was supposed to leave. He wound up winning the title and staying on 2 more months before leaving for the WWE.

[TjM]

I think the PPV proves Punk is a draw and they start treating him right and he stays (I can dream right?)

[JiggleEye Jooh]

Chicago Screwjob?

Bingo. and that puts him over

[cougarjake13]

Also, Punk left the same identical tweet before a big PPV for ROH. Right before he was supposed to leave. He wound up winning the title and staying on 2 more months before leaving for the WWE.

yeh but i doubt vince gives month to month contracts

[TripleSkeet]

yeh but i doubt vince gives month to month contracts

He has had plenty of guys work without contracts before.

[cougarjake13]

He has had plenty of guys work without contracts before.

yeh for like quick things like when roddy comes back and shit like that



but for a top flight guy like punk ??



im not saying i know cause i dont i just thought he doesnt

[styckx]

HOLY SHIT

CM Punk is having one of the best (work) shoots I've seen in fucking ages.. Truly epicness.

[Dirtbag]

I don't care how much that may have been worked, it was the greatest Raw moment since RVD and Tommy Dreamer debuting.

[epo]

HOLY SHIT

CM Punk is having one of the best (work) shoots I've seen in fucking ages.. Truly epicness.

That was a helluva fake shoot. Proof that Punk is an amazing talent and Vince knows it.

[cougarjake13]

HOLY SHIT

CM Punk is having one of the best (work) shoots I've seen in fucking ages.. Truly epicness.

i couldnt believe they let it go on that long

up til they cut the mic i thought it meant it was all pre approved work by vince


could still be


everything he said was fucking spot on

[styckx]

That reminded me of SCSA's King Of The Ring interview.. Like you literally just saw the key turned for the start of a new era.. That was 10000000000000000% a complete departure from anything I've seen on raw in 7 years.

[cougarjake13]

That was a helluva fake shoot. Proof that Punk is an amazing talent and Vince knows it.

i havent marked out in a long time


fucking love it

[cougarjake13]

That reminded me of SCSA's King Of The Ring interview.. Like you literally just saw the key turned for the start of a new era.. That was 10000000000000000% a complete departure from anything I've seen on raw in 7 years.

agreed 100 percent


we've slowly seen a departure from all the g rated crap


its been a slow ride , much like the painful pace of a roller coaster as it goes up at the beginning of the ride before it hits the apex

[cougarjake13]

That reminded me of SCSA's King Of The Ring interview.. Like you literally just saw the key turned for the start of a new era.. That was 10000000000000000% a complete departure from anything I've seen on raw in 7 years.

just rewound it



hes wearing a stone cold shirt


could mean nothing


could mean something

[styckx]

just rewound it



hes wearing a stone cold shirt


could mean nothing


could mean something

Oh I think it does.. Was one of the first things I noticed.

[Dirtbag]

Punk and Austin have had some weird thing on Twitter. I don't know if its in fun or if Punk really has beef with Austin for being an alcoholic wifebeater.

[Sue_Bender]

Reports are that Michael Cole announced to the live crowd that CM Punk is suspended indefinitely.

Apparently, he was also escorted out of the building after he hit the showers.

An announcement was made that they will now be determining a new No. 1 contender for Money in the Bank.

If this is a worked shoot, they've finally put on a good show.

Best thing WWE has done in fucking ages. A decade?

[cougarjake13]

saw nothing on wwe.com bout punks diatribe

so maybe it was a shoot


who knows

[styckx]

It was a work, just a work of epic proportions. If it was a legit shoot, he would have been cut off after the first couple kayfabe shots he took. The extended camera work of him after he cut out the mic was also a big sign it was a work.

Finally snagged a copy of the full shoot if anyone needs to see it.

[styckx]

All you need to know it's a work

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-06-27/mcmahon-suspends-punk

[Sue_Bender]

All you need to know it's a work

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-06-27/mcmahon-suspends-punk

Well, I mentioned that Cole told the live crowd.

That's another indicator...as they're currently taping next week's RAW.

[styckx]

Well, I mentioned that Cole told the live crowd.

That's another indicator...as they're currently taping next week's RAW.

Yeah.. I'm reading the live spoilers.. Just didn't want to spoil by mentioning that here. :) :wink:

[paulisded]

Austin apparently tweeted that it was the best mic work he has seen in years.

[paulisded]

Here's Austin's tweet:


@CMPunk just melted my 52 inch TV with a scorching hot promo...delivery, content, and attitude...one of the best promos I've ever seen.

[styckx]

edit NM. You posted it. :)

[NickyL0885]

Can someone fill me in on what Punk said? I had to leave the house to listen to a friend cry about her guy troubles and missed it. Give me the gist of what he said.

[TripleSkeet]

Right now Twitter is one big CM Punk chant.

Best promo Ive seen in fucking years. Talk about letting the shit fly.

[styckx]

Can someone fill me in on what Punk said? I had to leave the house to listen to a friend cry about her guy troubles and missed it. Give me the gist of what he said.

Search youtube for "CM Punk" change the filter to upload date.. Videos are popping up and being deleted fast.

Transcript of sorts. He went FULL OUT


After the match, Punk takes a mic and has a seat at the top of the ramp. Punk is wearing a Steve Austin t-shirt. Punk says before he leaves, he has some things he wants to get off his chest. Punk says he doesn't hate Cena, he actually likes him more than most people in the back. Punk hates the idea that Cena is the best, because he's not. Punk says he's the best, the best in the world. Punk says Cena is better than one thing - kissing Vince McMahon's ass. Punk says Cena is as good at kissing Vince's ass than Hulk Hogan was. Punk also brings up The Rock being Vince's ass kisser. Punk says he is the best wrestler in the world and has been since day 1 of walking into this company. Punk brings up how Paul Heyman saw something in him. Punk says yea, I'm a Heyman guy. Punk says Brock Lesnar was also a Heyman guy and he left. Punk says the difference is, he's leaving with the WWE Title. Cena is still trying to recover in the ring. Punk says he has tried to grab so many of Vince's imaginary brass rings and that's just what they are - imaginary. Punk says he's proved he's the best in the ring, on the mic and even on commentary. Punk says he's barely promoted, not on any WrestleMania posters, no opening videos, no promo cups and things like that. Punk says he isn't on Conan or Fallon, but should be. The fact that The Rock is in the WrestleMania 28 main event and not him makes him sick. Punk says the ones cheering him right now are one of the biggest reasons he's leaving. He says they're the ones sipping out of those promo cups and then trying to get him to sign it at the airport so they can sell it on Ebay. Punk says he's leaving with the WWE Title and maybe will defend it in New Japan or Ring of Honor. Punk says hi to Colt Cabana. Punk says Vince will make money despite himself. Punk calls Vince a millionaire who should be a billionaire but he's not because he surrounds himself with people like John Laurinaitis. Punk says WWE could be better once Vince is dead but it will be ran by his idiotic daughter Stephanie McMahon and Triple H. Punk goes on and they cut his mic and then go to black. RAW is off the air.,

[TripleSkeet]

It ended when he said "Let me tell you a story about Vince McMahon..."

[styckx]

Punks Facebook page gone.. Wow.. Not only is this a compelling story, WWE are actually selling it after the fact.. I'm impressed.

[TripleSkeet]

LMAO They really had people believing the whole thing was real. Just was called a retard by Scott Octanefan for thinking it was a work....then I read the spoilers. Hahahahaha

[styckx]

And they ruined it.. Completely.. Spoiler if anyone wants to facepalm for the next week.

Vince McMahon comes out and he says that CM Punk deserved his suspension and he talks about how Punk wanted too much money for his new contract. Vince says that he is standing by his decision to suspend Punk.

John Cena comes out and he says that Vince loves freedom of speech and he still wants to face CM Punk. Cena says that if Vince doesn’t feel like fighting then he should hang it up.

Vince says that he really suspended Punk because he doesn’t want Punk to leave with the title. Cena made fun of Vince being afraid to let Punk wrestle. Cena talks about the match and then Vince tells Cena not to piss him off and not to be like Hogan.

Cena tells Vince to give the people what they want. Vince says that he doesn’t give a damn what the people want. Cena gives Vince a speech and then gives Vince the WWE Championship and walks out.

Vince tells Cena to wait and he meets him on the ramp. Vince says that CM Punk is reinstated and Cena has his match at Money in the Bank with CM Punk. Vince tells Cena that if Punk walks out of Chicago with the title then John Cena is fired.

[Sue_Bender]

Yeah.. I'm reading the live spoilers.. Just didn't want to spoil by mentioning that here. :) :wink:

Good boy, styckx! :thumbup:

[Sue_Bender]

And they ruined it.. Completely.. Spoiler if anyone wants to facepalm for the next week.

Vince McMahon comes out and he says that CM Punk deserved his suspension and he talks about how Punk wanted too much money for his new contract. Vince says that he is standing by his decision to suspend Punk.

John Cena comes out and he says that Vince loves freedom of speech and he still wants to face CM Punk. Cena says that if Vince doesn’t feel like fighting then he should hang it up.

Vince says that he really suspended Punk because he doesn’t want Punk to leave with the title. Cena made fun of Vince being afraid to let Punk wrestle. Cena talks about the match and then Vince tells Cena not to piss him off and not to be like Hogan.

Cena tells Vince to give the people what they want. Vince says that he doesn’t give a damn what the people want. Cena gives Vince a speech and then gives Vince the WWE Championship and walks out.

Vince tells Cena to wait and he meets him on the ramp. Vince says that CM Punk is reinstated and Cena has his match at Money in the Bank with CM Punk. Vince tells Cena that if Punk walks out of Chicago with the title then John Cena is fired.

Oh, good Christ.

Just like Nexus last year.

It was great for ONE episode.

There's ALWAYS next year.

[TripleSkeet]

And they ruined it.. Completely.. Spoiler if anyone wants to facepalm for the next week.

Vince McMahon comes out and he says that CM Punk deserved his suspension and he talks about how Punk wanted too much money for his new contract. Vince says that he is standing by his decision to suspend Punk.

John Cena comes out and he says that Vince loves freedom of speech and he still wants to face CM Punk. Cena says that if Vince doesn’t feel like fighting then he should hang it up.

Vince says that he really suspended Punk because he doesn’t want Punk to leave with the title. Cena made fun of Vince being afraid to let Punk wrestle. Cena talks about the match and then Vince tells Cena not to piss him off and not to be like Hogan.

Cena tells Vince to give the people what they want. Vince says that he doesn’t give a damn what the people want. Cena gives Vince a speech and then gives Vince the WWE Championship and walks out.

Vince tells Cena to wait and he meets him on the ramp. Vince says that CM Punk is reinstated and Cena has his match at Money in the Bank with CM Punk. Vince tells Cena that if Punk walks out of Chicago with the title then John Cena is fired.

Man, that sounds like it can go either way!!!! :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[TjM]

Can someone fill me in on what Punk said? I had to leave the house to listen to a friend cry about her guy troubles and missed it. Give me the gist of what he said.

Here

On stage Punk sits and has a mic in hand. He tells Cena that while he lays there, hopefully as uncomfortably as possible there, he wants Cena to digest what Punk has to say. Before Punk leaves in three weeks with his strap, Punk has a lot to get off his chest. He doesn't hate Cena, in fact he likes Cena. Likes him a lot more than most in the back. He hates this idea that Cena's the best. Because he's not. Punk the best. The best in the world. There's one thing Cena's better at than Punk is and that's kissing VKM's ass! Huge cheers from the crowd for this.

Cena is as good at kissing Vince's ass as Hogan was! Hogan's name garners some solid heat from the fans. Not as good as Dwayne. He's a pretty good ass kisser. Always was and still is. Oops, I'm breaking the 4th wall! Punk is the best wrestler in the world. This actually gets some mixed reaction from the fans, some agree with him. He's been the best since day one when he walked into this company and he's been vilified and hated since that day because Paul Heyman saw something in Punk that nobody wanted to admit.

Cena just starts to roll away from the table. That's right, Punk's a Paul Heyman guy. You know who else is? Brock Lesnar. He split just like Punk's splitting! The biggest difference between him and Brock is Punk's leaving with the WWE Championship. He's grabbed so many of VKM's imaginary brass rings that they're just that, imaginary. The only thing that real is Punk. That day in and day out for six years that he's the best on this mic, in that ring, even at commentary, nobody can touch him! The fans like this. No matter how many times he proves it, he's not on our lovely little collector cups, not on the program, barely promoted, not in movies, not in any crappy shows on the USA Network. He's not on the poster for WM, not in the signature produced at the start of the show.

Not on Conan O'Brien, not on Jimmy Fallon. But the fact of the matter, he should be. This isn't sour grapes, it's what it is. That Dwayne is in the main event at WMXXVIII makes Punk sick! Cena is now watching Punk. Punk says that those people who are cheering him are as much of the problem as they're the ones sipping out of those collector cups, buy those programs, then at 5am you shove it in his face for an autograph, then sell it on eBay because you're too lazy to get a real job! More heat for Punk here.

Punk says he's leaving on July 17th with the WWE Championship. Maybe he'll go defend it in NJPW. Maybe he'll go back to ROH! Punk then turns to the camera on his right, waves and says hello to Colt Cabana. The reason he's leaving is the fans. They'll keep pouring money into this wheel after he's gone. He's just a spoke in on the wheel. It will keep turning. VKM will make money despite himself. He's a millionaire who should be a billionaire. You know why he's not a billionaire? He surrounds himself with glad-handing nonsensical BLEEPING yes men like John Laurinaitis who will tell VKM what he wants to hear. Punk would like to think that this company will be better after VKM's death, but the fact of the matter is, it's going to get taken over by his idiotic daughter and his doofus son-in-law and the rest of his stupid family.

Punk wants to tell us a personal story about VKM. They do this whole bully campaign - Punk's mic has been shut off. He shouts a bit, then drops the mic yelling that he can't be silenced. He yells into the camera as RAW goes off the air.

[TjM]

This guy seems like a douche

http://twitter.com/#!/EricCalcara_35

[styckx]

This guy seems like a douche

http://twitter.com/#!/EricCalcara_35

Wow.. That guy is part troll, part douche, part "it's still real to me dammit" guy.

Check out his thread here: http://forums.prowrestling.com/showthread.php?p=3289043#post3289043

He is the first post..

[foodcourtdruide]

Why did they even bother deleting Punks facebook page, if they were going to do something that made it SO CLEAR that the angle was fake the next day? Pretty dumb. They could have went with this and gotten legitimate heat up to the PPV, now it's just clearly a work.

[TjM]

Apparently he thinks he "got Randy good" with a staredown at a taping :lol:

[TripleSkeet]

Wow.. That guy is part troll, part douche, part "it's still real to me dammit" guy.

Check out his thread here: http://forums.prowrestling.com/showthread.php?p=3289043#post3289043

He is the first post..

I saw this douchebag on Twitter awhile ago. He was basically flooding Stone Colds page with criticism until Austin was like "Just do us all a favor, stop watching. Youre now banned. Bye."

[TjM]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

This kid is fucking tapped

When Randy Orton reached me on the entrance ramp, he began to slap hands with the people right next to me. During this time, I was doing everything I could to express my hatred of him. I gave him a double thumbs-down, and was screaming "You suck" at him endlessly. Randy could have brushed me off. He could have easily ignored me. But instead, he was highly amused and decided to "play" with me. Here is how it went down...

At first, he gave me a look as if to say "Oh, another one of these hater fans..." He smiled like John Cena would do, and I think he was expecting me to stop, and that would be it. Instead, I kept screaming at him relentlessly (understand that he was right in front of me) and he began to grow increasingly more amused. He waved his hand in a downward motion as if to signal me to tone it down. He made direct eye contact with me several times for a period of 1-2 minutes (although it felt longer). He studied me down completely, to the point where he could easily tell a police department every feature of me if he was asked to give a description. The entire time, he was smiling/smirking and visibly amused.

I thought it was over. He went to the other side of the entrance ramp, presumably to slap hands with the people over there. But instead of doing so, he turned back around and stared at me again. I had momentarily stopped doing anything because I had thought that he was done with me, but now the surrounding fans were telling me: "Hey, there's your chance. It's just you and him. He's looking at you. Do something!"

So I gave him the double thumbs-down again. At this point, he never stopped making eye contact with me. I got tired of saying "You suck" so I screamed at him "You're garbage!" I'm not sure why the word "garbage" would have set him off, but for a brief moment, he turned his head upward, and looked like he does when he's about to punt somebody.

I was fully expecting him to come over to me and get in my face, or perhaps just brush me off at this point. But he did neither. Instead, his response was to "taunt" me with his belt. He held it up and showed it proudly to me, all the time smiling and smirking, as if to mock me for telling him that he sucks when he is, in fact, the champion.

That was it. But I can't believe that Randy took the time to "play" with me like that. He could have completely ignored me, but instead he had fun with me. I have never grabbed a wrestler's attention like that for such a seemingly long period of time. There were people around me who I think would have liked that amount of attention, but it was me who stood out to Randy Orton over everyone else who was there.

[styckx]

He's destined to become one of those douchebags that jumps the barricade and promptly not fakely pounced on by real fists.

[Fallon]

Punk ruled last night, haven't read the spoilers, I'm just gonna enjoy his promo. Probably my favorite in a long long time.

[foodcourtdruide]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

This kid is fucking tapped

That is one of the most psychotic things I've ever read.

[brettmojo]

Here's Austin's tweet:


@CMPunk just melted my 52 inch TV with a scorching hot promo...delivery, content, and attitude...one of the best promos I've ever seen.
I can't believe I have a bigger TV than Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Worked, not worked... CM Punk is my hero.

[StanUpshaw]

Why did they even bother deleting Punks facebook page, if they were going to do something that made it SO CLEAR that the angle was fake the next day? Pretty dumb. They could have went with this and gotten legitimate heat up to the PPV, now it's just clearly a work.

95% of the audience is not basement dwelling smarks.

[foodcourtdruide]

95% of the audience is not basement dwelling smarks.

But the same place you'd learn that CM Punks facebook page was deleted would be the same place that has the spoilers for the next Raw.

[TripleSkeet]

I really hope Vince has some deal with Cornette and ROH and is going to use Punk to help get them better established. It would be pretty amazing to have him win the PPV, take the belt, and show up at a ROH show. Of course it would only matter if Vince actually acknowledged it.

[TjM]

I really hope Vince has some deal with Cornette and ROH and is going to use Punk to help get them better established. It would be pretty amazing to have him win the PPV, take the belt, and show up at a ROH show. Of course it would only matter if Vince actually acknowledged it.

Woul not be unpresidented. They did the NWA thing with Corny back in the day

[foodcourtdruide]

I really hope Vince has some deal with Cornette and ROH and is going to use Punk to help get them better established. It would be pretty amazing to have him win the PPV, take the belt, and show up at a ROH show. Of course it would only matter if Vince actually acknowledged it.

If that did happen, I'd be incredibly annoyed they made it look like a work by "re-instating Punk". They could have gone all the way with it.

[Dirtbag]

If that did happen, I'd be incredibly annoyed they made it look like a work by "re-instating Punk". They could have gone all the way with it.

Anything that keeps Punk on my TV every Monday would be welcomed.

[paulisded]

The big mistake was that they had this happen on a night where they were recording a second Raw episode. Any other week they could have kept the momentum going to at least some of the more gullible fans, but within minutes we heard about next week's fake "suspension" and reinstatement. Nice job, WWE!

[epo]

Just for the fun of it:

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2OS9wZGb_3g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Dirtbag]

UPDATE: As of Tuesday, June 28, WWE and CM Punk have reached an agreement that Punk will fulfill his non-televised live event obligations for the remainder of his contract, through July 17. Furthermore, both sides have mutually agreed not to disparage one another.

Don't want the house show crowd getting pissed off.

[cougarjake13]

fucking love watching it every time

[TripleSkeet]

If that did happen, I'd be incredibly annoyed they made it look like a work by "re-instating Punk". They could have gone all the way with it.

Not really. It works alot more if he takes the belt. Like when Flair showed up on WWF tv with the NWA belt. I think I read somewhere that was 20 years just recently.

[Dirtbag]

Not really. It works alot more if he takes the belt. Like when Flair showed up on WWF tv with the NWA belt. I think I read somewhere that was 20 years just recently.

Isn't that the thing the NWA went to court over and WWF was blurring out an old IC belt?

[cougarjake13]

i just hope its not a blip and its a beginning of a turn to a more attitude like era


i know it'll never be that again but fuck a 50 percent version is still 100 percent better then this shit

[styckx]

Anyone want to take a WILD guess who is trying to attention whore off CM Punks legendary segment via twitter?

If you guessed Kurt Angle come collect your prize
CM Punk had classic promo last night. Good for Him. But if U ever say another word about Me again, Ur toast! If U don't believe Me, try Me!"

[TripleSkeet]

Anyone want to take a WILD guess who is trying to attention whore off CM Punks legendary segment via twitter?

If you guessed Kurt Angle come collect your prize


Of all the people he mentioned Monday Night....Kurt Angle wasnt one of them. Maybe hes trying to get him to sign with TNA. If he isnt happy in WWE I cant see him even giving TNA a try.

[styckx]

Punk seems too smart to even give TNA a brief thought. He'd be midcarding with Samoa Joe his entire time there.

[conman823]

Worked -Shoot or whatever can't we just enjoy it for the entertainment that it is? Can we not be jaded IWC people and just say whoever let it happen shows so real balls?

Ric Flair and the NWA Belt was 1991. When WWF was sued and Flair was given the back money owed to him he returned the belt. The continued the angle by video distorting the a copy of the Tag Team Title.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Do you think they'd try for a re-creation of Montreal, but with Punk being a better wrestler than Cena, he gets out and submits Cena?

It's just funny that during that rant, he didn't name check Montreal at all.

[Dirtbag]

I know it would never happen, but it would be awesome if Punk wins the title, then both Punk and the "newly fired" John Cena show up at ROH.

[foodcourtdruide]

Just for the fun of it:

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2OS9wZGb_3g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That was incredible!

[Chimee]

I know it would never happen, but it would be awesome if Punk wins the title, then both Punk and the "newly fired" John Cena show up at ROH.

There would be a riot.

[TripleSkeet]

I know it would never happen, but it would be awesome if Punk wins the title, then both Punk and the "newly fired" John Cena show up at ROH.

That would be phenominal.

[TripleSkeet]

Worked -Shoot or whatever can't we just enjoy it for the entertainment that it is? Can we not be jaded IWC people and just say whoever let it happen shows so real balls?

Ric Flair and the NWA Belt was 1991. When WWF was sued and Flair was given the back money owed to him he returned the belt. The continued the angle by video distorting the a copy of the Tag Team Title.

So I was right, 20 years ago.

[cougarjake13]

Punk seems too smart to even give TNA a brief thought. He'd be midcarding with Samoa Joe his entire time there.

punk said new japan and ROH


never mentioned tna as a posssibility


so i doubt he'd ever go there

[cougarjake13]

Do you think they'd try for a re-creation of Montreal, but with Punk being a better wrestler than Cena, he gets out and submits Cena?

It's just funny that during that rant, he didn't name check Montreal at all.



why would he ?? wasnt relevant to what he was talking about

[TripleSkeet]

why would he ?? wasnt relevant to what he was talking about

It actually is very relevant to what he was talking about. The guy is talking about winning the title and leaving with it when his contract was up. Isnt that the whole reason the whole Montreal Screwjob happened??? To prevent something like that?

[cougarjake13]

It actually is very relevant to what he was talking about. The guy is talking about winning the title and leaving with it when his contract was up. Isnt that the whole reason the whole Montreal Screwjob happened??? To prevent something like that?



ahh yeh i gotcha wasnt thinking of that part of it

maybe they didnt want to reveal it too much by mentioning it

[StanUpshaw]

punk said new japan and ROH

never mentioned tna as a posssibility

so i doubt he'd ever go there


It wasn't real......

He said NJPW and ROH because that was the line he was given.

[TripleSkeet]

It wasn't real......

He said NJPW and ROH because that was the line he was given.

I seriously doubt that promo was scripted. Theres no fucking way a WWE scriptwriter is going to have him say hello to Colt Cabana.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I seriously doubt that promo was scripted. Theres no fucking way a WWE scriptwriter is going to have him say hello to Colt Cabana.

yeah they would have called him scotty goldman

[TjM]

From Rajah

HMMMMMMMMMMM?


According to a reliable source in WWE, there was some significance CM Punk mentioning Brock Lesnar, Paul Heyman and Colt Cabana during his shoot promo on RAW - as each of them could be working with WWE again in the coming months.

Heyman and Lesnar have reportedly either made a deal or are at least in very serious negotiations to have a business relationship with WWE. Regarding Lesnar, word is that he won't be wrestling and won't be a TV character, should he establish a business relationship with WWE again. Heyman would start working with the company again under a deal similar to Lesnar.

As for Punk's WWE future, the creative team has been told that he's finishing up at Money in the Bank and most feel that he is still leaving. During his negotiations with WWE Punk recently asked for his friend Colt Cabana to be re-hired and put on the main roster.

WWE still has an offer on the table, so we shall see.

[TripleSkeet]

Lesnar may be looking for employment options if his illness costs him his fighting career.

[Dirtbag]

Heyman and Lesnar have reportedly either made a deal or are at least in very serious negotiations to have a business relationship with WWE. Regarding Lesnar, word is that he won't be wrestling and won't be a TV character, should he establish a business relationship with WWE again. Heyman would start working with the company again under a deal similar to Lesnar. What does that even mean? I could sort of understand a consulting deal for Heyman (even though Vince and his lackeys aren't smart enough to listen to him), but if Brock Lesnar isn't on TV, why are you paying him?

[CYYYFYYY]

I am sure they told Punk he can mention almost anythinghe wanted. I am also sure they told him he was not allowed to mention steriods or TNA. But even if they did not say that his speach would not make sence saying he wants to go to TNA since he bashed Hogan as well.

[Fallon]

What does that even mean? I could sort of understand a consulting deal for Heyman (even though Vince and his lackeys aren't smart enough to listen to him), but if Brock Lesnar isn't on TV, why are you paying him?
Maybe they want to work with Brock on dvds and possibly put him in video games. A lot of former wrestlers have similar deals.

[foodcourtdruide]

I am sure they told Punk he can mention almost anythinghe wanted. I am also sure they told him he was not allowed to mention steriods or TNA. But even if they did not say that his speach would not make sence saying he wants to go to TNA since he bashed Hogan as well.

The most shocking part of the promo was when he said the WWE still wouldn't get run better when Vince dies, because stephanie and HHH would be taking over. I could totally see that piece being approved by Vince though.

The only place that had me thinking Punk may have broken kayfabe was when he mentioned ROH (and said hi to Colt Cabana) and NJPW.

[foodcourtdruide]

Maybe they want to work with Brock on dvds and possibly put him in video games. A lot of former wrestlers have similar deals.

Stone Cold doesn't wrestle and he's on WWE TV all the time.

[cougarjake13]

at this point having them in any capacity is better than not

[cougarjake13]

i forsee cm punk taking out all 3 guys in the contenders match leaving vince no choice but to re instate punk and allow him to fight cena at ppv

[MIKEYDAKEN]

i forsee cm punk taking out all 3 guys in the contenders match leaving vince no choice but to re instate punk and allow him to fight cena at ppv

read the spoilers

[cougarjake13]

read the spoilers

was trying to avoid em

[CruelCircus]

Maybe they want to work with Brock on dvds and possibly put him in video games. A lot of former wrestlers have similar deals.

That's what I was thinking.

If they pay him, they can get him to promote them.

[StanUpshaw]

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[TripleSkeet]

Now they are forcing him to apologize. Amazing. Im sorry but calling a straight person gay in any way, shape or form will ALWAYS be considered an insult. Its never going to change or stop. Its really annoying how they keep going after every celebrity for this dumb shit. The fags dont even give a fuck.

[NickyL0885]

Now they are forcing him to apologize. Amazing. Im sorry but calling a straight person gay in any way, shape or form will ALWAYS be considered an insult. Its never going to change or stop. Its really annoying how they keep going after every celebrity for this dumb shit. The fags dont even give a fuck.

Yea. It's getting ridiculous. Tracy Morgan now can't even make fun of disabled people either. This country needs to lighten up.

[Chimee]

So now it's a problem for heels to behave like heels. The whole point is that you're not supposed to like CM Punk. Next thing you know there will be complaints from all the little Jimmys that they don't like R-Truth bringing their name up.

[Fallon]

So now it's a problem for heels to behave like heels. The whole point is that you're not supposed to like CM Punk. Next thing you know there will be complaints from all the little Jimmys that they don't like R-Truth bringing their name up.

Fuck Señor Jimmys!!

[disneyspy]

Fuck Señor Jimmys!!

misti will kick yo ass!

[cougarjake13]

is cm punk joining chyna and doin pornos ??

[StanUpshaw]

We can't say homo?

Who do they gays think they are claiming an entire prefix?

[StanUpshaw]

is cm punk joining chyna and doin pornos ??


I've been studying this post for the last ten minutes.


The only thing I can come up with....is this a mustache joke?

[cougarjake13]

I've been studying this post for the last ten minutes.


The only thing I can come up with....is this a mustache joke?




yes


at first i was gonna say is he joining the cast of the good guys but its cancelled

so i went with 70s porn stache

[cougarjake13]

We can't say homo?

Who do they gays think they are claiming an entire prefix?



prob the same people who take man out of words and say person instead

[conman823]

His quick apology makes me suspect he might be looking to stay with WWE. Else why even give a shit?

[Dirtbag]

His quick apology makes me suspect he might be looking to stay with WWE. Else why even give a shit?

There's an outside shot that he actually means it.

[TripleSkeet]

His quick apology makes me suspect he might be looking to stay with WWE. Else why even give a shit?

According to WWE hes really dont on the 18th. They had to give a statement to GLAAD saying he has 2 weeks left on an already advertised PPV so but they arent re-signing him. Thats their way of cowtowing to the faggot equivalent of Al Sharpton.

Its funny, Cena had 2 great promos this week. In the 2nd one, he basically calls Vince McMahon out for being a pussy and not the fighter he was back in the 80s and 90s. I know it was scripted but talk about hitting the nail on the head. The old Vince McMahon would never fucking cowtow to a special interest group. Its really sad to see what the WWE has become.

[brettmojo]

According to WWE hes really dont on the 18th. They had to give a statement to GLAAD saying he has 2 weeks left on an already advertised PPV so but they arent re-signing him. Thats their way of cowtowing to the faggot equivalent of Al Sharpton.

Its funny, Cena had 2 great promos this week. In the 2nd one, he basically calls Vince McMahon out for being a pussy and not the fighter he was back in the 80s and 90s. I know it was scripted but talk about hitting the nail on the head. The old Vince McMahon would never fucking cowtow to a special interest group. Its really sad to see what the WWE has become.
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[conman823]

Its funny, Cena had 2 great promos this week. In the 2nd one, he basically calls Vince McMahon out for being a pussy and not the fighter he was back in the 80s and 90s. I know it was scripted but talk about hitting the nail on the head. The old Vince McMahon would never fucking cowtow to a special interest group. Its really sad to see what the WWE has become.

It became a publicly traded company.

The only person who cut Vince's balls off was Vince.

[TripleSkeet]

It became a publicly traded company.

The only person who cut Vince's balls off was Vince.

He still owns 70% of the WWEs economic interest and 96% of the voting power. He doesnt have to answer to stockholders. All of the moves they make are costing them fans and money.

Its funny, when you look back at the Monday Night Wars, all the corporate rules the WCW had to follow that basically hamstrung them and cost them any chance at competing with Vince again, they are the same rules the WWE uses now. Confiscating signs, fully scripted promos, bleeping out language, no blood, no slurs etc. Look at any wrestling documentary and Eric Bischoff is the first to say that once WCW came to him and said they wanted all their shows to be suitable for 5 year olds, they were essentially done.

Punk was dead on. Vince is a millionaire who should be a billionaire. The company will always make money but it will never come close to reaching former heights as long as it feels the need to constrain itself and let stockholders that know nothing about the wrestling business call the shots. Vince could do whatever he wants and if the company makes more money because of it the stockholders would shut their mouths. If he were in this position in 1995 WCW would probably still be in business.

[TripleSkeet]

After tonights Raw Im really starting to think Vince might have something worked out with ROH or something. I mean when Punk is saying stuff like "Yea sure hell fire you Cena. Like last time it lasted 7 days" you would think that would get everyone thinking the obvious, and the show would end in a boring way. I think Punk is winning that belt this week.

Oh, and tonight Punk fucking killed with a contract provision to bring back the WWE ice cream bars. :lol::lol::lol:

[Fallon]

I was at the show last night and the reaction to Punk was amazing, he had the crowd eating out of his hand.

My feeling is Punk beats Cena Sunday, but loses it right away to a MitB winner Del Rio.

[Sue_Bender]

I was at the show last night and the reaction to Punk was amazing, he had the crowd eating out of his hand.

My feeling is Punk beats Cena Sunday, but loses it right away to a MitB winner Del Rio.

I was thinking the same thing.

I haven't heard anyone hint at it, so I believe it's a strong possibility.

[Chimee]

Anyone else notice that Cena was going with a Boston accent for his hometown crowd?

[cougarjake13]

i did pick up on that

[cougarjake13]

I was at the show last night and the reaction to Punk was amazing, he had the crowd eating out of his hand.

My feeling is Punk beats Cena Sunday, but loses it right away to a MitB winner Del Rio.

I was thinking the same thing.

I haven't heard anyone hint at it, so I believe it's a strong possibility.




only prob is that gives punk the time to say fuck it and run into crowd b4 MITB winner gets down to ring

[epo]

This Cena/Punk match is starting very early for a main event.

Also, Punk is wearing a new t-shirt.

[styckx]

That fucking ruled.. Vince worked the smarks like a champ.. Holy shit

[Dirtbag]

Best show in a long, long time. Mark Henry vs Big Show was good, Cena was involved in a MotY candidate, and Super Cena doesn't show up at all? Amazing.

[styckx]

It was better than WM, and not just by a little bit, a lot. The RAW MITB was the worst match of the night. Luckily the Smackdown MITB match was so fucking good it countered the suck of the RAW one.

[Sue_Bender]

It was better than WM, and not just by a little bit, a lot. The RAW MITB was the worst match of the night. Luckily the Smackdown MITB match was so fucking good it countered the suck of the RAW one.

I didn't care too much for the MITB ladder matches. I agree that the Smackdown match was far superior. It's hard to top Wrestlemania 24's. Del Rio got to nap during the entire RAW match, which is nice.

The main event had the BIG match feel. It was chock full of botches, but entertaining as Hell. However, that's mainly because they ACTUALLY built the fucking thing up. It's amazing what proper storytelling can do. You forgive the foibles of the match.

The finish was golden.

[styckx]

I didn't care too much for the MITB ladder matches. I agree that the Smackdown match was far superior. It's hard to top Wrestlemania 24's. Del Rio got to nap during the entire RAW match, which is nice.

The main event had the BIG match feel. It was chock full of botches, but entertaining as Hell. However, that's mainly because they ACTUALLY built the fucking thing up. It's amazing what proper storytelling can do. You forgive the foibles of the match.

The finish was golden.

Both were sloppy at times.. I don't think either of them were used to working a legitimately long match and probably got burned out. That was far beyond WWE's typical 10 minute long PPV matches.. That was a solid 30 minutes or longer.

[Sue_Bender]

Both were sloppy at times.. I don't think either of them were used to working a legitimately long match and probably got burned out. That was far beyond WWE's typical 10 minute long PPV matches.. That was a solid 30 minutes or longer.

Yeah, the main event had a nice arc. However, I HATED that Cena could not sell even a little bit of exhaustion after Punk kicked out of the AA for the second time. He was jawing with the official and just didn't sell any injury or fatigue. He was far too alert for a guy who was in such a trying contest. He's never been good at this (see Wrestlemania 23 w/ Michaels).

[foodcourtdruide]

I'll be watching RAW tomorrow night.

[spe5150]

I've got to give credit where credit is due, they didn't take the cheesy way out. Vince showed those famous grapefruits for the first time in a long time. And tomorrow night's Raw will do the biggest numbers in a looooong time.

[conman823]

Yeah, the main event had a nice arc. However, I HATED that Cena could not sell even a little bit of exhaustion after Punk kicked out of the AA for the second time. He was jawing with the official and just didn't sell any injury or fatigue. He was far too alert for a guy who was in such a trying contest. He's never been good at this (see Wrestlemania 23 w/ Michaels).

But he sold the table bump on RAW a few weeks back like it was near death while Punk ranted.

I still don't like Cena the wrestler, I respect his commitment and he seems to have no trouble speaking out about some issues in the company. He recently tweeted about how Zack Ryder isn't being used but the fans are screaming for him.

CM Punk posted this pic also.....
http://yfrog.com/z/kkb09zyj

[Tenbatsuzen]

So the question is, did ADR actually cash in his MITB and lose by countout? I just read highlights.

[styckx]

HAHAHAHAHA. HHH has a giant pile of egg on his face right now. HAHAHAHA

STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara) for 30 days for his first violation of the company’s policy. .

[Sue_Bender]

So the question is, did ADR actually cash in his MITB and lose by countout? I just read highlights.

NO.

Michael Cole made sure to point out that the bell never rang to officially start the match.

[TripleSkeet]

That was one quality PPV. Not used to 5 star main events. Man that was great. JR said it best. The best PPVs are the ones that deliver everything they promise, and leave you with more questions then answers.

[Fallon]

Solid PPV, I liked both MitB matches and the main event was fantastic. Had no idea who was gonna win and at so many points it looked like the match was over.

WWE did good.

only prob is that gives punk the time to say fuck it and run into crowd b4 MITB winner gets down to ring

Well, he rain into the crowd after kicking Del Rio.

You get half credit.