Monday Night RAW Discussion

[TripleSkeet]

It really was bad for a monumental episode. I liked the 3 way NXT match, and Punk was awesome.

The whole Taker segment with Nexus was just silly. And really a dick move to do an Austin tease. 900 episodes and not a special appearance by an old Raw star? And when the fuck are they supposed to announce the GM? I thought it was tonight.

Overall, same shit, different week.

[Kevin]

Probably going to do more for 1000.



Can't wait..

And good point..

Wtf is so special about 900?

Its not like they broke a record by getting 900.

Just a terribly done publicity stunt.

And Nexus just looks silly with just five guys.

Especialy when they surround the ring.

[CYYYFYYY]

I thought it was a nice show. The number 900 does not mean all that much for me. The WWE has to stop mentioning Hitman in matches because we all know he can;t fight. I don't know why most of you guys watch wrestling if you hate it so much. I hate when the lights go out and everything changes but I get it, the fans love that crap. As for all you guys who HATED THE SHOW AS USUAL..... I started disliking Lost and Heros, so rather than complain (Which I did at first hoping they would fix themselves) I STOPPED WATCHING!

[Kevin]

I thought it was a nice show. The number 900 does not mean all that much for me. The WWE has to stop mentioning Hitman in matches because we all know he can;t fight. I don't know why most of you guys watch wrestling if you hate it so much. I hate when the lights go out and everything changes but I get it, the fans love that crap. As for all you guys who HATED THE SHOW AS USUAL..... I started disliking Lost and Heros, so rather than complain (Which I did at first hoping they would fix themselves) I STOPPED WATCHING!



1: If you thought this show was not mostly DOGSHIT, then you have no idea what you are watching.

The point is they hyped this up as something huge and got people's hopes up only to give us a reg RAW.

And Hero's and Lost is not the same..

Its not easy letting go of something that you grew up with.

So terrible examples.

[Fallon]

Worst celabration show EVER.

I hate PG WWE.

One of the "highlights" of the 900 episodes was This is your Life for The Rock, fine! But the unfunny clips they showed of it was absurd. Why even bother showing it if you edit out the funny?

[TripleSkeet]

I thought it was a nice show. The number 900 does not mean all that much for me. The WWE has to stop mentioning Hitman in matches because we all know he can;t fight. I don't know why most of you guys watch wrestling if you hate it so much. I hate when the lights go out and everything changes but I get it, the fans love that crap. As for all you guys who HATED THE SHOW AS USUAL..... I started disliking Lost and Heros, so rather than complain (Which I did at first hoping they would fix themselves) I STOPPED WATCHING!

I didnt have 25 years invested in Lost or Heroes. And Ive said it before, I dont sit and watch it now. I dvr it and fast forward through it every week hoping they will do something to entertain me.

It can get better. In 1993 WWF was AWFUL. It was a bunch of kiddie catering shit showcasing kings, clowns, sumo wrestlers and overall awful gimmicks. Eventually it got better. WILL it get better again? With Vince getting old and losing his balls Im not optimistic. But I always hold out that hope. Thats what makes me a REAL fan.

[TripleSkeet]

Just saw a stat that Cena won his 100th match of the year last night. Thats an average of winning 4 matches a week. LOL And they wonder why people get fed up with the guy.

Cena had a run of 787 days without a loss at a WWE live event.

Over 2 straight years without a loss. Way to be creative there Vince.

[Fallon]

Just saw a stat that Cena won his 100th match of the year last night. Thats an average of winning 4 matches a week. LOL And they wonder why people get fed up with the guy.



Over 2 straight years without a loss. Way to be creative there Vince.
If that's from house shows I don't have a problem with it, he's the main event. Send the kids home happy.

Cena did lose a triple threat cage match after Raw last night, but didn't get pinned.

[TripleSkeet]

If that's from house shows I don't have a problem with it, he's the main event. Send the kids home happy.

Cena did lose a triple threat cage match after Raw last night, but didn't get pinned.

Live event. Thats everything. TV and House and PPV.

And that second stat isnt for this year. He lost to HHH in Peru earlier in the year.

[Dirtbag]

If that's from house shows I don't have a problem with it, he's the main event. Send the kids home happy.

Cena did lose a triple threat cage match after Raw last night, but didn't get pinned.

He did get pinned in the 5 on 5 match, and it wasn't even the final fall. I was shocked by that.

[CYYYFYYY]

Raw made no sense tonight

Kahlli eliminated himself and the ref did not call it.

Orton needed help to beat Barrett

Edge is threatening to destroy the computer while seconds earlier they showed that Coyle gets tests from the GM so who cares.

The Skit between Edge and Ryder was funny and there were some good matches but I can;t stand when things make no sense at all.

[TripleSkeet]

A really boring ass Raw tonight. The Miz segment was the only entertaining part of the show.

I think its pretty clear Jericho isnt re-signing. Such a shame that someone that good is leaving while Khali, Cena and Seamus are still there week after week.

[Kevin]

A really boring ass Raw tonight. The Miz segment was the only entertaining part of the show.

I think its pretty clear Jericho isnt re-signing. Such a shame that someone that good is leaving while Khali, Cena and Seamus are still there week after week.



I don't have a problem with Sheamus..

Kali sucks.

I'm just not sure if Chris is 100% commited to wrestling anymore..

He is not in that great a shape and he has too much shit going on outside the sport.

I don't think The WWE can count on him with a long title run.

As for the Miz segment.. Danial was the only reason that segment was any good.

Miz shtick is getting old.

Its the same speach every week..

He's AWESOME...

We get it.

[TripleSkeet]

I don't have a problem with Sheamus..

Kali sucks.

I'm just not sure if Chris is 100% commited to wrestling anymore..

He is not in that great a shape and he has too much shit going on outside the sport.

I don't think The WWE can count on him with a long title run.

As for the Miz segment.. Danial was the only reason that segment was any good.

Miz shtick is getting old.

Its the same speach every week..

He's AWESOME...

We get it.

Right now hes the best on the mic and most entertaining part of Raw in my opinion. Im really hoping Riley stays on too.

They arent going to give Jericho a long title run when his contracts about to expire. Word is if he re-signs he wants more off time. I dont think thats too much to ask. Takers gets 1/2 the year off, I think you can take Jericho off of some dumb house shows. He is still a great worker, awesome on the mic, and can play heel or face awesomely. If I were Vince hed be the guy I most want to keep signed. Above Orton, Cena, and anyone else on Raw.

[Kevin]

I fucking hate Taker.

Maybe him not being in the main event means he will re sign.

Since he wont win and not winning ment he is gone..

Maybe things changed..

[NickyL0885]

I can't see Jericho in TNA, as he has bashed them for the way the book and do things. I agree with kevin that he seems to have too much going on. His band, that NBC game show he's supposed to host, family.

[cougarjake13]

I can't see Jericho in TNA, as he has bashed them for the way the book and do things. I agree with kevin that he seems to have too much going on. His band, that NBC game show he's supposed to host, family.

all reasons i was surprised he came back in the first place

must have thrown a shit ton of money at him

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I like that they're establishing Daniel Bryan as the anti-superstar. That's pretty cool. Hopefully he'll get that momentum still with a US title win on Night of Champions. Miz has the MITB case so that's sorta like a title. Man, there are so many titles on WWE TV.

[NickyL0885]

I like that they're establishing Daniel Bryan as the anti-superstar. That's pretty cool. Hopefully he'll get that momentum still with a US title win on Night of Champions. Miz has the MITB case so that's sorta like a title. Man, there are so many titles on WWE TV.

Well, i read they will unify the world title and the wwe title at wrestlemania. They have already did it with the tag titles, next with the divas title. I just wonder if it means the champ is on both shows.

[Kevin]

Well, i read they will unify the world title and the wwe title at wrestlemania. They have already did it with the tag titles, next with the divas title. I just wonder if it means the champ is on both shows.



How much do you want of bet its either Cena or HHH that unifies the world title.

[Dirtbag]

How much do you want of bet its either Cena or HHH that unifies the world title.

Maybe they'll let Jericho do it again.

It won't be Jericho, but I think they'll do a similar thing like they did with him and the Undisputed Championship. Not a huge shocker, but not the totally obvious (Rock/Austin or now Cena/HHH) route. Maybe someone like CM Punk.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Here's what I think. At Wrestle Mania, John Cena will face the Undertaker in a title unification match. I don't know how they're going to get to that considering the usual Royal Rumble qualifier.

[Kevin]

Here's what I think. At Wrestle Mania, John Cena will face the Undertaker in a title unification match. I don't know how they're going to get to that considering the usual Royal Rumble qualifier.



Giving Taker the unified belt would be worse than giving it to Cena.

[TripleSkeet]

I agree. You dont give that Unified belt to Taker. You dont have him hold the belt at Mania. Because thats one streak I really think should stand.

Cena doesnt need it, although I wouldnt be surprised to see Superman get it. Punk would be a good candidate. Maybe the Miz. That would be as big a shock as it was when Jericho first did it. I dont see it being HHH. Most likely Orton.

The way you do it is easy. Come up with an angle where the winner of the Royal Rumble somehow secures a title match (hello Money in the Bank!) at the PPV between that and Mania. Then have him win the Smackdown title there. The next night on Raw you have that champ show up saying "Ive got a binding contract that says winning the Royal Rumble guarantees me a title shot at Wrestlemania with the champ of my choosing, Im a greedy kind of guy and one title belt just isnt enough for me, so I think my choice is going to have to be (Raw Champion)"

[SpicyMcHaggis]

If that were the case, I would definitely have Punk become the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion (combination of both titles instead of saying Unified or Undisputed). See, people who are on the level of Cena and Undertaker don't need the title. Titles should go on someone who is meant to be elevated and put in a higher spotlight at this point, as opposed to the old ways where the top guy WAS the champion. Titles have been made useless as far as meaning. They're props to put focus on a rising star.

[CYYYFYYY]

It would not be Undertaker at Wrestlemania because he already has a story line you don;t need to give him a belt story line. The question is will it be both champs and the Rumble winner. Will be a 4 way match or a tournament ala the first unification match with Jerricho. It could be the 2 champs, the RUmble winner and Miz can cash it in at the Rumble. My money would be on PUn winning the darn thing

[Dirtbag]

It would not be Undertaker at Wrestlemania because he already has a story line you don;t need to give him a belt story line.

Not that I'm advocating putting the belt back on Taker, or even involving him in the picture, but WrestleMania is like 8 months away. Taker vs Kane version #4,752 better be long finished by then.

[Kevin]

Not that I'm advocating putting the belt back on Taker, or even involving him in the picture, but WrestleMania is like 8 months away. Taker vs Kane version #4,752 better be long finished by then.



I think he ment the streak storyline..

[cougarjake13]

plus isnt jerichos contract up ?? as why he lost the match monday ?? so if he doesnt re sign then hes out


i like the idea of punk unifying or the miz



might be a 3 way to unify it raw sd champs and rumble winner

[CYYYFYYY]

I think he ment the streak storyline..

Correct

[TripleSkeet]

Aaaahhhhh....I love it. Keep that "family friendly" entertainment coming Vince. Dont know if its been said but apparently the WWE is going to stop wioth the action movies and instead start making more family friendly movies like dramas and comedies. Heres how their 1st one, Cenas "Legendary", fared...

Regarding WWE Films’ repeated inability to make a box office impact, “Legendary” star Patricia Clarkson says it best–”I don’t know how.”

WWE’s latest film, which also stars Danny Glover and wrestler John Cena, aimed to make a quick, albeit minor impact as a limited release before heading to the lucrative DVD market. While DVD sales and rentals remain a potentially-viable option given Cena’s past success in that medium, “Legendary” failed in its first mission, producing an opening weekend box office take that in no way could be described as successful.

On 177 screens, the film earned an estimated $135,210 this weekend. Releases so limited rarely prove capable of ranking in the top ten for box office receipts, but because there are so few options for seeing the film, the per-theatre average tends to make for a strong comparison to wider releases. That was not the case with “Legendary.”

With only $764 in receipts per screen, its theatrical average was not only abysmal for a new limited release, but actually below that of the top fourteen “wide release” films this weekend. Considering “Legendary” received significant promotion to its television audience of at least 5 million domestic viewers, the film received a marketing campaign far more mainstream and extensive than is granted to many similarly-limited releases.

As a comparison, WWE’s other John Cena vehicles included “The Marine” (opening weekend of $7.1 million with a $2800 per-screen average) and “12 Rounds” (opening weekend of $5.3 million with a $2300 per-screen average).

[Kevin]

Aaaahhhhh....I love it. Keep that "family friendly" entertainment coming Vince. Dont know if its been said but apparently the WWE is going to stop wioth the action movies and instead start making more family friendly movies like dramas and comedies. Heres how their 1st one, Cenas "Legendary", fared...



Come on..

Only select theatera got the "privlage" to show!


Not that they couldnt get mass showings or anything..

[TripleSkeet]

Come on..

Only select theatera got the "privlage" to show!


Not that they couldnt get mass showings or anything..

I only hope the dvd bombs too. Oddly enough, I think I wanna see it. Downloading FTW.

[conman823]

I actually watched a promo for it on YouTube complete with Cena giving us a "behind the scenes look". The story was contrived and overdone. And Cena, much like Hogan, just isn't leading man material.

[TripleSkeet]

Their next gem....

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Wow.

[Dirtbag]

I love Jericho for telling Cole, "Shut up and read it!" He got a nice pop for it too. Somebody backstage has to realize how grating Cole's "announcements" are.

[TripleSkeet]

I love Jericho for telling Cole, "Shut up and read it!" He got a nice pop for it too. Somebody backstage has to realize how grating Cole's "announcements" are.

Im pretty sure thats why they do it. The problem is, theres a fine line between getting heat for it, and making it so annoying and repetitive that the audience doesnt care about the angle anymore. WWE crosses this line on a regular basis.

[CYYYFYYY]

I think the GM will be announced very soon. I myself like this better than a human GM who takes up alot of time and feuds with people. prefer a good guy GM because a bad guy GM just gives the good guys impossible odds that they most overcome and they do making the heels look incredibly week.

[epo]

Jesus Christ does Michael Cole make this shit unwatchable.

[conman823]

Jesus Christ does Michael Cole make this shit unwatchable.

Yeah he really does. So does the whole PG thing.

Also on last weeks RAW, he's the Miz and he.....can't lock on a figure 4.
I actually facepalmed on my couch. In the ring with today's best submission wrestler and u botch a figure 4

[Kevin]

Jesus Christ does Michael Cole make this shit unwatchable.



Cole is fucking awful.

His heel thing comes off crappy.

[conman823]

I actually found a way to watch RAW again And be able to stand it. I DVR AM RAW every week now. Soooo much better without that pesky other hour to FFWD through.

[RingWraith]

Jesus Christ does Michael Cole make this shit unwatchable.

I've been saying that shit for years. To this day, I wonder how the fuck is that guy still employed. He's awful. I rather have Tony Shiavone take over.

[RingWraith]

Cole is fucking awful.

His heel thing comes off crappy.


I agree. And I hate the fact that he's actually rooting for the Miz.

[epo]

I've been saying that shit for years. To this day, I wonder how the fuck is that guy still employed. He's awful. I rather have Tony Shiavone take over.

That is not only correct, but its the scariest shit I've read all day.

[walking joint]

i don't watch much, but when I turn it on I actually like Cole. its better then the old Cole.

[TripleSkeet]

i don't watch much, but when I turn it on I actually like Cole. its better then the old Cole.

:blink:

[conman823]

i don't watch much, but when I turn it on I actually like Cole. its better then the old Cole.

Ol' King Cole was a merry old soul.

So yeah I could see that.

I think.

Micheal Cole though should be ass raped on TV. Oh wait they did that already.

[TripleSkeet]

Tell me again how good the PG Era has been for business and how they are raking the money in....

Credit to PWTorch.com for this ratings data:

After last week’s bowling-shoe-ugly 2.8 rating .. this week’s RAW didn’t even come close to that number.

The 9/27 episode of WWE’s Monday Night RAW drew a pitiful 2.37 rating – down a sharp 15% from last week’s year-low number.

RAW averaged 3.80 million viewers over the course of the show. The first hour drew 3.72 million viewers and the second hour had 3.88 million.

The 2.37 for Monday show is the lowest rating for a regular episode of RAW since October 27, 1997 – almost 13 years ago – before the Montreal Screwjob kicked off the Attitude Era.

This just after reports the merchandise sales for Nexus have been attrocious.

[Bob Impact]

Tell me again how good the PG Era has been for business and how they are raking the money in....


This just after reports the merchandise sales for Nexus have been attrocious.
Ouch.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/09/29/business-specialized-consumer-services-financial-impact-fbn-monday-night-ratings_7969356.html

Packers-Bears gets cable's best rating in 2010
Associated Press, 09.29.10, 08:28 AM EDT

NEW YORK -- Monday night's game between the Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears was the highest-rated cable telecast of the year.

ESPN says "Monday Night Football" had an estimated 17.5 million viewers, making it the fifth-most watched cable program ever - behind a Monday night game from last season featuring the Packers against former quarterback Brett Favre.

The network said Monday night's 12.5 rating was well over the season average so far of 10.9

[TripleSkeet]

Ouch.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/09/29/business-specialized-consumer-services-financial-impact-fbn-monday-night-ratings_7969356.html

Yea, I remember the days when Raw kicked MNF's ass so bad they kept rotating in color commentators every week because they couldnt understand that a wrestling show had taken all their viewers.

But yea, its stupid and unprofitable to go after the adult male audience. They dont watch tv or spend money at all. :dry:

[TripleSkeet]

By the way, this is a MUST HAVE....

“Fans loved to boo Bobby Heenan but despite their vocal displeasure with The Weasel, everyone acknowledges he’s the greatest manager in the history of sports entertainment. He guided members of the infamous Heenan Family to great heights in both the AWA and WWE, even occasionally stepping into the ring himself. He also further cemented his place in pro wrestling lore by becoming one of the great color commentators of all time, completely earning his 2004 induction into the WWE Hall of Fame. Now, for the first time ever, fans can relive the Brain’s magnificent career in Bobby The Brain Heenan, a 2-disc DVD that tells the life story of Heenan as well as collects his most famous matches, interviews, and moments. “

[conman823]

Thanks I just preordered it on Amazon. It says it ships Dec 28th. What kind of shit holiday marketing they doing over there.

[TripleSkeet]

I just watched Raw from 1998 where the main event was Stone Cold vs Golddust....yes Golddust...for the WWF Title. It was more exciting then any main event Raw has had in the last 5 years.

[Bob Impact]

Evidently there was an error and Monday's rating was actually a 2.7, which is still pretty bad but not Holy shit bad.

[conman823]

Big on Sheamus.
Still hate Orton.
Cena is boring.
Edge is entertaining.
The Miz should really do better in ring work if ur gonna face a guy like Bryan

[cougarjake13]

how long in to raw before the anonymous gm over turns nexus victory and cena doesnt have to join


i say in first five minutes

[Bob Impact]

how long in to raw before the anonymous gm over turns nexus victory and cena doesnt have to join


i say in first five minutes

Nah, I say he joins and trolls them from the inside, like they'll be in the middle of a beatdown and Cena will start doing ridiculous moves ala Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H for the European title.
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I can hope at least.

[Chimee]

Barring a miracle, this will be several terrible weeks of Nexus beating on people and Cena trying to do the "I'm sad and conflicted" face in the background.

[TripleSkeet]

how long in to raw before the anonymous gm over turns nexus victory and cena doesnt have to join


i say in first five minutes

I dont see that happening. Right before that match stipulation was made, word came out from Meltzer and company that Vince had gotten his first breifing on how Nexus merchandise was moving and supposedly the word he used to describe it was "abysmal". I see him wearing the gear and always making faces like hes being forced to do whatever it is they are having him do.

[Fallon]

I dont see that happening. Right before that match stipulation was made, word came out from Meltzer and company that Vince had gotten his first breifing on how Nexus merchandise was moving and supposedly the word he used to describe it was "abysmal". I see him wearing the gear and always making faces like hes being forced to do whatever it is they are having him do.

I like the Nexus shirts on Nexus members, but who the fuck would by one to wear at home?

If they want to bump merch sales come out with a better design. A CeNation with the N being the Nexus symbol would be cool.

[TripleSkeet]

I like the Nexus shirts on Nexus members, but who the fuck would by one to wear at home?

If they want to bump merch sales come out with a better design. A CeNation with the N being the Nexus symbol would be cool.

I honestly think they were delusional to think people would buy them like they did nWo shirts. And if that was the reason for bringing Cena in its still failing because they dont make him wear the gear. This whole angle is already boring me.

[RingWraith]

I honestly think they were delusional to think people would buy them like they did nWo shirts. And if that was the reason for bringing Cena in its still failing because they dont make him wear the gear. This whole angle is already boring me.

Totally agree. Besides, those "N" shirts for Nexus look stupid anyway.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Here's another reason why it's not working. They created an entire storyline for the purpose of sparking interesting in SELLING A T-SHIRT! To me that's pretty god damn ridiculous.

[asayresk]

I honestly think they were delusional to think people would buy them like they did nWo shirts. And if that was the reason for bringing Cena in its still failing because they dont make him wear the gear. This whole angle is already boring me.

The storyline died around summerslam when Nexus lost to team WWE. Why are these guy still around:wallbash:

[Bob Impact]

Totally agree. Besides, those "N" shirts for Nexus look stupid anyway.

You can't tell me you dont want to get together with 6 of your friends so you can stand in a line and silently proclaim "NNNNNNN"

[TripleSkeet]

I watched this weeks Raw and I have to admit from top to bottom it was really good.

- I like the fact they added McGillicutty and Harris to Nexus
- I like how they are teasing for Otunga to turn on Barret
- I LOVE that CM Punk is getting ready to work an angle with Daniel Bryan
- They even threw Santino a bone with a win over Seamus, I couldnt believe it.

And theyve got Pee Wee Herman hosting next week. Well done Vince.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It was inevitable that some of the ROH alumns started to mix it up with each other in the big time. CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan is a future Wrestlemania main event on my wishlist. BTW, did anyone catch Punk's comment?

"You guys keep talking about Shawn Michaels but William Regal did all the work. All Shawn Michaels did for Bryan was take three thousand dollars from him."

DAMN!

[brettmojo]

Ever find out who the GM was?

[TripleSkeet]

It was inevitable that some of the ROH alumns started to mix it up with each other in the big time. CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan is a future Wrestlemania main event on my wishlist. BTW, did anyone catch Punk's comment?

"You guys keep talking about Shawn Michaels but William Regal did all the work. All Shawn Michaels did for Bryan was take three thousand dollars from him."

DAMN!

I caught that. I was like WOW.

[Knowledged_one]

I was right about the miz when everyone hated him

The miz like me is awesome

[TjM]

Anyone catch Seamus trying like hell not to crack with Santino. At one point I thought he was gonna break but he held himself together somewhat

[RingWraith]

Anyone catch Seamus trying like hell not to crack with Santino. At one point I thought he was gonna break but he held himself together somewhat

Yeah, I noticed that too.

But lately I find Raw to be very boring. None of the storylines and/or feuds are entertaining for me.

Sigh! :down:

[CYYYFYYY]

Yea we get it, the HArt Dynasty are never going to win another match and they are going to feud so please stop having Hart Dynasty matches

[Fallon]

Yea we get it, the HArt Dynasty are never going to win another match and they are going to feud so please stop having Hart Dynasty matches

Bulldog's son is a bust. He's going to go nowhere after Kidd kicks his ass.

[Chimee]

And Kidd is going nowhere because he doesn't look like Bulldog's son.

[styckx]

It's sad when Tony Atlas makes some out of fucking no where appearance and cuts a better promo for himself than 90% of the current roster.

[brettmojo]

Is Snuka's daughter a tranny? Yikes.

[styckx]

I haven't watched this fisher price shit in ages, and decided tonight to watch it after reading about old school RAW.

I was thinking "There is no possible fucking way they can fuck this up"

Holy shit was I wrong. What a complete and utter fucking abomination of epic proportions. Once you get past the old set, logo, ring, music, and cloths it's still the same old boring shit with mostly terrible matches, terrible workers, terrible promos, terrible setups, terrible everything.

[brettmojo]

I haven't watched this fisher price shit in ages, and decided tonight to watch it after reading about old school RAW.

I was thinking "There is no possible fucking way they can fuck this up"

Holy shit was I wrong. What a complete and utter fucking abomination of epic proportions. Once you get past the old set, logo, ring, music, and cloths it's still the same old boring shit with mostly terrible matches, terrible workers, terrible promos, terrible setups, terrible everything.
Yup.

[epo]

This Cole vs JR stuff is hideous.

[TripleSkeet]

I haven't watched this fisher price shit in ages, and decided tonight to watch it after reading about old school RAW.

I was thinking "There is no possible fucking way they can fuck this up"

Holy shit was I wrong. What a complete and utter fucking abomination of epic proportions. Once you get past the old set, logo, ring, music, and cloths it's still the same old boring shit with mostly terrible matches, terrible workers, terrible promos, terrible setups, terrible everything.

Santino was still great.

I agree about the JR vs Cole thing. What was the point of it? I dont get what the fuck Michael Cole is supposed to be. Is he a play by play guy? If he is, why is he trying to be hated? When he speaks I get annoyed not because Im mad at what he says, but because hes trying to make me care about him one way or another. Hes not a wrestler, a manager, or a show character, theres no reason for me to hate him or like him, so why the fuck are they doing this?

If this was JRs last time announcing why not show the guy the respect he deserves and just have Cole shut the fuck up, and shake his hand afterwards wishing him good luck? Its fucking frustrating.

I did like seeing that they didnt bleep out Mae Youngs "sluts" and bitches" and had Mark Henry come out as sexual chocolate. Its small steps but hopefully a sign that they are going to try and eventually move away from the PG shit.

On another note, has anyone seen The Rock lately? Hes jacked to piss. The fucking guy is bigger now then he was when he first came into the WWF.

[Heather 8]

This Cole vs JR stuff is hideous.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/huronbhrt/JRHat.gif

[Space Edge]

I can't stand the whole Nexus gimmick. Not the John Cena forced to join Nexus storyline but The Nexus in general.

[RingWraith]

I can't stand the whole Nexus gimmick. Not the John Cena forced to join Nexus storyline but The Nexus in general.

Totally agree. Lame group, lame theme song, and lame T-shirts. I just don't give a shit about them.

[RingWraith]

Santino was still great.

I agree about the JR vs Cole thing. What was the point of it? I dont get what the fuck Michael Cole is supposed to be. Is he a play by play guy? If he is, why is he trying to be hated? When he speaks I get annoyed not because Im mad at what he says, but because hes trying to make me care about him one way or another. Hes not a wrestler, a manager, or a show character, theres no reason for me to hate him or like him, so why the fuck are they doing this?

If this was JRs last time announcing why not show the guy the respect he deserves and just have Cole shut the fuck up, and shake his hand afterwards wishing him good luck? Its fucking frustrating.

I did like seeing that they didnt bleep out Mae Youngs "sluts" and bitches" and had Mark Henry come out as sexual chocolate. Its small steps but hopefully a sign that they are going to try and eventually move away from the PG shit.

On another note, has anyone seen The Rock lately? Hes jacked to piss. The fucking guy is bigger now then he was when he first came into the WWF.

I'm with ya! I always hated Michael Cole, and now I hate him more because of the WWE trying to force feed us his "new character". Cole acting like a heel is even more annoying.
I don't give a shit about him, I wish they fired him years ago, but thats never gonna happen, and I wish they put back JR! (Sadly I know thats not happening either) UGH!

[TripleSkeet]

I'm with ya! I always hated Michael Cole, and now I hate him more because of the WWE trying to force feed us his "new character". Cole acting like a heel is even more annoying.
I don't give a shit about him, I wish they fired him years ago, but thats never gonna happen, and I wish they put back JR! (Sadly I know thats not happening either) UGH!

Hes the epitome of "X-Pac heat".

[RingWraith]

Hes the epitome of "X-Pac heat".

hah! You're right!

[TjM]

Notes from Raw (via Rajah.com)

Members of The Nexus reportedly watched "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's promo intently and the biggest reaction backstage occurred when Mae Young referred to Lay-Cool as "sluts" and "bitches." Her remarks reportedly made Vince McMahon laugh.

-- It is said that most everyone in WWE wants Jim Ross to return to the broadcast booth. However, the final decision lies with Vince McMahon
.

[cougarjake13]

Totally agree. Lame group, lame theme song, and lame T-shirts. I just don't give a shit about them.



soon they'll be just like the spirit squad

[NickyL0885]

Are they REALLY expecting me to believe that John Cena is fired? Yea.....ok......sure...

[Chimee]

It would be the greatest swerve of all time.

[Space Edge]

I'm half watching but did I just see John Cena walk out of the Amway Center in Orlando into the streets?

[paulisded]

I really hope they don't follow the cliched fired storyline with the cliched masked wrestler gimmick.

[NickyL0885]

What's the point of Punk as the 3rd announcer? Why do i see them kicking Jerry out, thus leading to a Cole and Punk vs JR and Jerry feud?

[Space Edge]

Looks like they are in the new arena in orlando tonight, that place is nice the old one which is still standing and holding some events is a shit hole.

[cougarjake13]

Are they REALLY expecting me to believe that John Cena is fired? Yea.....ok......sure...

never made sense cause you know theres no way hes leaving

plus they could just say he was fired from nexus and raw or sd! re hired him

[cougarjake13]

It would be the greatest swerve of all time.

I'm half watching but did I just see John Cena walk out of the Amway Center in Orlando into the streets?



yes you did


but i have this sneaky feeling he comes back during title match looks like hes saving orton and finally turns heel and helps barrett win title

[NickyL0885]

They just advertised being at MSG for December 26th, with John Cena being in a 4way match. FAIL!

[cougarjake13]

What's the point of Punk as the 3rd announcer? Why do i see them kicking Jerry out, thus leading to a Cole and Punk vs JR and Jerry feud?

first thought was maybe punk is injured and just needed to do something with him


but i like your idea .. not sure how that would work though



my other thought is that cole finally reveals he is the gm .. leaves the announce table and leaves just punk and king

[cougarjake13]

They just advertised being at MSG for December 26th, with John Cena being in a 4way match. FAIL!

they could always say that it was just because they didnt know if hed get fired or not so they advertised him there with the thought being that if he lost thats why he isnt there

[cougarjake13]

is the melina we see now the same one ??


for the most part it does look like her but the voice sounds different

[Kevin]

I don't know whats a bigger fail.

That Cena speech or the fact that the clock in this shit hole has not been fixed yet.

Way to stay on top of shit mods, its only been over 2 weeks.

Can't wait til Cena costs Barret the belt tonight. So predictable.

[NickyL0885]

I don't know whats a bigger fail.

That Cena speech or the fact that the clock in this shit hole has not been fixed yet.

Way to stay on top of shit mods, its only been over 2 weeks.

Can't wait til Cena costs Barret the belt tonight. So predictable.

Called it.

[cougarjake13]

miz cashing in


and new champ

[Kevin]

I'm gunna save epo the words and say im officialy done with Raw.

[cougarjake13]

I'm gunna save epo the words and say im officialy done with Raw.

you knew he had to cash it in sometime

at least this way they get it done early and randy gets it back at next ppv

[epo]

I'm gunna save epo the words and say im officialy done with Raw.

David Arquette 1, Miz 1.

[cougarjake13]

David Arquette 1, Miz 1.


hhmmm at least miz has been a regular for years no matter how much he sucks

[asayresk]

Bruno Sammartino must be pissed that the Miz is in the WWE champions club.:wallbash:

[Sue_Bender]

Bruno Sammartino must be pissed that the Miz is in the WWE champions club.:wallbash:

I will never understand the love for "The Miz".

He presents himself as the "White Rock"...with the pretend mic charisma.

The Miz has no REAL charisma as far as I can see.

It's forced. It's awful. It's better than Cena.

He can't tell a story in the ring. Please, someone...where are his best matches? Are they hiding in obscurity? I've never seen them.

[Dirtbag]

He can't tell a story in the ring. Please, someone...where are his best matches? Are they hiding in obscurity? I've never seen them.

You can say that about 90% of the roster.

[Heather 8]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs569.ash2/149137_501919914881_780264881_7052670_4245710_n.jp g

Finds this incredibly un-awesome.

[RingWraith]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs569.ash2/149137_501919914881_780264881_7052670_4245710_n.jp g

Finds this incredibly un-awesome.

Reminds of the kid who played young Michael Myers in Rob Zombie's Halloween movie.

HAH!!!

[TripleSkeet]

I for one am happy the Miz is the champ. At least its something new. Hes one of the few on the roster that actually entertains me.

I liked Cenas speech too. Especially when he had the girls and kids chant for him and the guys chant against him.

[foodcourtdruide]

hhmmm at least miz has been a regular for years no matter how much he sucks

Yeah, kind of an unfair comparison.

[Fallon]

aweeeeeeeeesome!!!!!

This is still the best cash in. I marked out.

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[TripleSkeet]

I liked that even though he took advantage of a weakened opponent, he still gave him a fair shot. Not like some of the other ones where somebody was laid out and they just ran in and pinned him.

[RingWraith]

I for one am happy the Miz is the champ. At least its something new. Hes one of the few on the roster that actually entertains me.

I liked Cenas speech too. Especially when he had the girls and kids chant for him and the guys chant against him.

I'm with ya on the Miz winning the title. Thats one of the few moments that I enjoyed watching from Raw in long long time.

The Cena speech I have no idea what he said cause I didn't care and pretty much fast-forwarded most of Raw still.

[Chimee]

I liked that even though he took advantage of a weakened opponent, he still gave him a fair shot. Not like some of the other ones where somebody was laid out and they just ran in and pinned him.

I'm glad that they gave some offense to Orton and even teased the RKO before The Miz got the pin. If they just had him run out and hit his finisher, it would have felt even cheaper.

[conman823]

The Miz will have a short reign and head back to the mid cards.

He has no good matches because he is too busy working on his "character " and that's great but it won't get you too that wrestlemania main event. He needs to show some action to back up all the talking.

I said this last wrestlemania, the MITB match has run it's course. Every cash in is the same. Next year throw the IC title up there and give that belt some glory. Its sad when a briefcase has more cred then an actual title.

[brettmojo]

aweeeeeeeeesome!!!!!

This is still the best cash in. I marked out.

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The best was Edge on Cena after the chamber match. I was there and it was fucking insane.

[cougarjake13]

The Cena speech I have no idea what he said cause I didn't care and pretty much fast-forwarded most of Raw still.


a bunch of bullshit that will make him look like a liar when he comes back

[cougarjake13]

The Miz will have a short reign and head back to the mid cards.

He has no good matches because he is too busy working on his "character " and that's great but it won't get you too that wrestlemania main event. He needs to show some action to back up all the talking.

I said this last wrestlemania, the MITB match has run it's course. Every cash in is the same. Next year throw the IC title up there and give that belt some glory. Its sad when a briefcase has more cred then an actual title.



or at least have a guy cash it in but not win ... cause otherwise everytime someone does go to cash in you'll know that hes gonna win like we have so far

[Chimee]

or at least have a guy cash it in but not win ... cause otherwise everytime someone does go to cash in you'll know that hes gonna win like we have so far

Miz should have been that guy because he'd at least be able to sell the loss in some way that doesn't make him look terrible.

[epo]

Miz should have been that guy because he'd at least be able to sell the loss in some way that doesn't make him look terrible.

I was actually hoping that was going to be the case with him. I almost would've respected it more than the predictable win.

[TripleSkeet]

I liked what they did with Cena. His exit promo was awesome. I knew hed be back, I was hoping they would take this time to give him a short break and then repackage his character a little bit. Kind of like they do with Taker. Because his "Never give up" gimmick is lame, stale and outdated.

I shouldve known better then to have any faith in the WWE...

- As noted before, "Juan Cena" is being advertised for upcoming RAW events. Juan is being billed as John Cena's Mexican cousin.

[TjM]

Loved the Cena thing. The crowd ate it up. Even the dudes in the crowd were all smiles

[TjM]

I liked what they did with Cena. His exit promo was awesome. I knew hed be back, I was hoping they would take this time to give him a short break and then repackage his character a little bit. Kind of like they do with Taker. Because his "Never give up" gimmick is lame, stale and outdated.

I shouldve known better then to have any faith in the WWE...

Depends. It worked with Dusty. It just depends on the way it's presented

[Dirtbag]

I'm sure they'll keep dropping the ball with Cena, but that's actually pretty funny.

[TripleSkeet]

Depends. It worked with Dusty. It just depends on the way it's presented

It worked with Dusty because it was the 80s. Anyone else remember Mr. America?

[CYYYFYYY]

Pillman also did it when he lost to Barry Windom.

[epo]

Don't forget Andre as the "Giant Machine".

[Section 8]

The biggest swerve would be for Darren Young to play the role of Juan Cena.

[cougarjake13]

It worked with Dusty because it was the 80s. Anyone else remember Mr. America?

fucking horrendous

[cougarjake13]

The biggest swerve would be for Darren Young to play the role of Juan Cena.

that would be fucking awesome


but in reality all we'll get is cena in one of those clint eastwood western pullover blanket thingys that you see in those movies and a cheesy mustache

[cougarjake13]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/076/477/75352_131754460214872_100001409560741_190075_27654 61_n_original_original_crop_340x234.jpg?1290703303

[TripleSkeet]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/076/477/75352_131754460214872_100001409560741_190075_27654 61_n_original_original_crop_340x234.jpg?1290703303

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Kevin]

Didn't this awful shmuck make the same exact no one said i'd make it speach when he got the Raw Mag cover?

How this man isn't a jobber, i have no idea.

[epo]

I just turned this shit on and they've got Lawler vs Miz for the title? How the hell am I supposed to not turn the channel?

[Kevin]

I just turned this shit on and they've got Lawler vs Miz for the title? How the hell am I supposed to not turn the channel?



You were expecting any different from the Shia Labeouf of the WWE?

[Kevin]

What a terrible looking scepter

[conman823]

Heres a first look at mystery mask gimmick #213,789

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/163943/[PHOTO]-First-Look:-Juan-Cena.htm

Originality. I craves it.

[TripleSkeet]

When I heard the main event for Raw I thought the same thing. I have to admit, I was wrong. The match was very good. I dont know how I wouldve liked it to end but Michael Cole being in the ring wouldnt have been it. I cant fucking stand what they are trying to do with the guy. CM Punk has been announcing for about 3 weeks and hes already better then Cole.

[Kevin]

When I heard the main event for Raw I thought the same thing. I have to admit, I was wrong. The match was very good. I dont know how I wouldve liked it to end but Michael Cole being in the ring wouldnt have been it. I cant fucking stand what they are trying to do with the guy. CM Punk has been announcing for about 3 weeks and hes already better then Cole.



Punk is fucking awesome.

Some of the one liners he has have me cracking up.

When he said Cole would rather be with Alex Reily than the Bella's and the rio line.

[RingWraith]

When I heard the main event for Raw I thought the same thing. I have to admit, I was wrong. The match was very good. I dont know how I wouldve liked it to end but Michael Cole being in the ring wouldnt have been it. I cant fucking stand what they are trying to do with the guy. CM Punk has been announcing for about 3 weeks and hes already better then Cole.

How Cole has a job all these years still amazes me.

[cougarjake13]

How Cole has a job all these years still amazes me.

very dirty knees and a milk mustache

[RingWraith]

very dirty knees and a milk mustache

hah! You're probably right.

[Chimee]

When I heard the main event for Raw I thought the same thing. I have to admit, I was wrong. The match was very good. I dont know how I wouldve liked it to end but Michael Cole being in the ring wouldnt have been it. I cant fucking stand what they are trying to do with the guy. CM Punk has been announcing for about 3 weeks and hes already better then Cole.

That's because Jerry Lawler knows how to tell a story in the ring even if he is 61. I knew Miz would win, but it was still exciting to see all the hope spots and Punk called that match perfectly, explaining how the inexperience and ego of Miz is leading him to make mistakes which could cost him the title. It was surprisingly good.

[cougarjake13]

That's because Jerry Lawler knows how to tell a story in the ring even if he is 61. I knew Miz would win, but it was still exciting to see all the hope spots and Punk called that match perfectly, explaining how the inexperience and ego of Miz is leading him to make mistakes which could cost him the title. It was surprisingly good.

i knew that miz was gonna win but when king threw miz off the ropes on to table i thought for a second that maybe i was wrong

then i had a feeling that cole would jump in cause theyve been teasing that angle betw them and ultimately that happened

[TripleSkeet]

i knew that miz was gonna win but when king threw miz off the ropes on to table i thought for a second that maybe i was wrong



It doesnt happen often, but every now and then when it does that reminds me why Ive always loved wrestling.

[RingWraith]

It's amazing that the word "wrestling" is still a dirty word in the WWE.

The opening intro narrator starts off by saying:

"Movies have the Oscars. Music have the Grammys. Broadway has the Tony. But the most exciting award in "entertainment" is....... the Slammys!"

Ugh!

[epo]

Its about goddamned time they do something interesting.

[Kevin]

Its about goddamned time they do something interesting.



That was pretty awesome.

And Miz is still the worst champion ever.

Btw

Thanks for basically getting Coughlin fired yesturday.

Don't fuck the dog by losing to mojo next week.

[cougarjake13]

Its about goddamned time they do something interesting.

that indeed was fucking awesome


with punks speech earlier i thought the surprise was gonna be batista returning but this is much better


does barrett go to smackdown now ? or will he remain on raw and eventually became a target of nexus ?

[RingWraith]

And Miz is still the worst champion ever.

I disagree. JBL was the worst.

[Dirtbag]

I disagree. JBL was the worst.

Insanity.

[CYYYFYYY]

I am thinking BArrett ends up teaming up with Cena against the Nexus

[Fallon]

Barret vs Cena vs Punk seems likely, but it looks like Miz vs Morrison vs Orton is already setting up.

[cougarjake13]

I am thinking BArrett ends up teaming up with Cena against the Nexus

that would be gay

[conman823]

Barrett should go to SD and start his mid card singles run.

I was surprised at Punk taking over, but a part of me really wants nexus to go away already.

[cougarjake13]

cena was apparently injured in a house show last tuesday


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injury has him day to day


sounds like a bullshit excuse to have him miss time like they were and not get killed for it by fans like they were

[Kevin]

Shouldnt the WWE champion carry the challenger in a title match instead of the other way around?

[cougarjake13]

Shouldnt the WWE champion carry the challenger in a title match instead of the other way around?

not when the mid carder is champion and the should be champ just now getting a main event push

[Space Edge]

Nice Shawn Michaels back on RAW tonight. Hopefully they keep him around one of my favorite wrestlers. But he is just probably there because of the Hall Of Fame induction.

[Space Edge]

oh boy they got CM Punk in the rafters in a harness, Another Owen Hart situation ?

[cougarjake13]

im guessin gabriel and the rede head dude are out of nexus now

maybe as a tag team or maybe they go to sd with barrett and form nexus over there

[Chimee]

I think that the red haired guy gets future endeavored like every other person who has used his finisher (Shelton Benjamin and MVP) and Gabriel becomes the new little guy who hits some fancy offense before getting beat by a mid-carder and eventually teams with Mark Henry for a while.

I like the idea of cutting down on the Nexus members because the only ones who I could tolerate are Husky Harris and Joe Hennig even if their WWE names are awful. Punk is a great leader and I will never like David Otunga.

[CYYYFYYY]

I like Otunga, as well as Husky Harris. Can;t stand Joe Henning. Sheffield will soon be coming back he has some potential.

[cougarjake13]

i hate otungas mic skills


but i guess if u follow stable protocol u have punk as the main eventer, otunga or husky as enforcer and the 2 left as tag team

[RingWraith]

40 participants in a Royal Rumble match now?!? :dry:

[epo]

Skip Sheffield. I'm calling it.

[Kevin]

Who the hell was Don Stugots on juice there?

[epo]

Who the hell was Don Stugots on juice there?

Apparently some dude named Mason Ryan who is the FCW Champion.

He looks a shitload like Batista.

[TripleSkeet]

I swore that was Batista. Apparently they have 2 Nexuses now. On Smackdown its gonna be Barrett, Gabriel, Slater and Ezekial Jackson. While on Raw you got Punk, Harris, Hennig, Otunga and Batistas twin.

I like Punks version alot better.

Also, nice to see Santino getting a push. Still love that guy.

[spe5150]

40 participants in a Royal Rumble match now?!? :dry:

My personal (pessimistic) first instinct when I heard that they added 10 people to the Rumble was that HHH was going to make a triumphant return, at somewhere around the #8 or 9 slot & (1) break Rey Rey's record for longest time in the ring, (2) break Kane's record for most people eliminated in one Rumble, (3) break HBK's record for most people eliminated for a career, & (4) tie Stone Cold for most wins all in one night on his way to headlining WrestleMania to win his 14th World Title, feign an injury so as not to properly drop the title a few weeks later, sit out a month or two, then headline Sumer Slam & win his 15th World Title. At which point Flair's mark of 16 in well within reach & he can pace himself & plan to tie & break that mark whenever he feels, retiring as the greatest wrestler of all time in his & his wife's own minds. Too glass-half-empty?

[TripleSkeet]

My personal (pessimistic) first instinct when I heard that they added 10 people to the Rumble was that HHH was going to make a triumphant return, at somewhere around the #8 or 9 slot & (1) break Rey Rey's record for longest time in the ring, (2) break Kane's record for most people eliminated in one Rumble, (3) break HBK's record for most people eliminated for a career, & (4) tie Stone Cold for most wins all in one night on his way to headlining WrestleMania to win his 14th World Title, feign an injury so as not to properly drop the title a few weeks later, sit out a month or two, then headline Sumer Slam & win his 15th World Title. At which point Flair's mark of 16 in well within reach & he can pace himself & plan to tie & break that mark whenever he feels, retiring as the greatest wrestler of all time in his & his wife's own minds. Too glass-half-empty?

I really think the days of HHH being pushed to the moon is over. If anything I fear that somehow Cena will break some of those records.

[spe5150]

Damn...now I'm not sure which of those scenarios will make me sadder.

[cougarjake13]

Damn...now I'm not sure which of those scenarios will make me sadder.

for me its both

[Chimee]

I suppose I'll go ahead and be an optimist and hope that somebody like Daniel Bryan wins, though I know it'll come down to Cena and Nexus with him eliminating them all.

[cougarjake13]

I suppose I'll go ahead and be an optimist and hope that somebody like Daniel Bryan wins, though I know it'll come down to Cena and Nexus with him eliminating them all.

well weirdly enough on wiki they have it listed as primo winning im guessing thats primo colon


i woulda said miz be he already won the MITB and cashed in


cena hasnt had it in a bit and theyre setting up orton but i think orton gets it back before mania


for some reason i see punk vs cena for title at mania so one will win rumble and other will get belt before then

[Chimee]

I'm thinking Orton gets the title at the Rumble, Punk or Cena win the Rumble and it somehow ends up being a Triple Threat match at Wrestlemania.

[cougarjake13]

I'm thinking Orton gets the title at the Rumble, Punk or Cena win the Rumble and it somehow ends up being a Triple Threat match at Wrestlemania.

thats my second thought

[conman823]

I hate triple threat main events for Manias. If there is any sacred cows left let it be a one on one main event for WM.

There are so many other PPVS to gimmick it up.

[cougarjake13]

I hate triple threat main events for Manias. If there is any sacred cows left let it be a one on one main event for WM.

There are so many other PPVS to gimmick it up.




yeh but sadly its setting up to be that


only thing i possibly see is punk nexus vs barett nexus match at mania that might prevent the triple threat

[conman823]

yeh but sadly its setting up to be that


only thing i possibly see is punk nexus vs barett nexus match at mania that might prevent the triple threat

Barrett vs Punk would be a good PPV match on a minor PPV.

Stable vs Stable is a RAW main event at most. Despite the major overexposure of Nexus the last year they haven't built up the members much. They are interchangeable jobbers basically.

Four Horsemen were all main eventers in their day. When they announced someone as representing The 4 Horsemen or nWo you had that respect even though you were out there alone. Representing Nexus means your gonna job unless your Barrett or Punk.

[cougarjake13]

Barrett vs Punk would be a good PPV match on a minor PPV.

Stable vs Stable is a RAW main event at most. Despite the major overexposure of Nexus the last year they haven't built up the members much. They are interchangeable jobbers basically.

Four Horsemen were all main eventers in their day. When they announced someone as representing The 4 Horsemen or nWo you had that respect even though you were out there alone. Representing Nexus means your gonna job unless your Barrett or Punk.



pretty much thats true


im shocked that they even had the tag belts since they werent doing much more than betting up on people


and like you said theyre interchangeable .. i mean at the beginning u had danielson and sheffield in there then they both were gone and it didnt mean much

yeh danielson left really early on so it didnt mean much but husky harris just basically replaced sheffield after his injury

[asayresk]

What happen to Chris Jericho?

[Fallon]

What happen to Chris Jericho?

Took some time off to tour with his band.

[disneyspy]

Took some time off to tour with his band.

welcome back!

[Fallon]

Going to the Rumble on Sunday. Somebody cool better be a surprise entrant!!!

welcome back!

Ha.

[cougarjake13]

Going to the Rumble on Sunday. Somebody cool better be a surprise entrant!!!



Ha.

triple h comes to mind

[epo]

Going to the Rumble on Sunday. Somebody cool better be a surprise entrant!!!

Ha.

Papa Shango

[Fallon]

triple h comes to mind


HHH and Booker T are rumored. I want The Rock!

[TripleSkeet]

Going to the Rumble on Sunday. Somebody cool better be a surprise entrant!!!



Ha.

Booker T and Kevin Nash are supposedly done deals for the Rumble.

[cougarjake13]

HHH and Booker T are rumored. I want The Rock!

why booker t ??


hes done


let the new guys have a run

[disneyspy]

5 time

5 time


5 time

sucka

[Chimee]

why booker t ??


hes done


let the new guys have a run

How many times have they put Hacksaw Jim Duggan or any other old guy in there? Booker T and Kevin Nash are going to be in the Rumble for the cheap legend pop, they'll toss out a few low-level guys and then be thrown over. It's not like either of them would ever win.

[TripleSkeet]

How many times have they put Hacksaw Jim Duggan or any other old guy in there? Booker T and Kevin Nash are going to be in the Rumble for the cheap legend pop, they'll toss out a few low-level guys and then be thrown over. It's not like either of them would ever win.

This.

[spe5150]

Booker T and Kevin Nash are supposedly done deals for the Rumble.

Nash...seriously? Oh boy.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I watched RAW last night, and first off, I saw Natalya pull off a killer version of the sharpshooter that I think only girls could do.

Then LayCool comes out, and lays into Natalya for being fat... which is the same exact gimmick they had with Mickie James before she left the company... for being fat.

I don't get this. Is Laycool's gimmick just bitches for the sake of being bitches and calling everyone fat? If so, it's lame. And Trish pulled off being a bitch 100x better.

[conman823]

I watched RAW last night, and first off, I saw Natalya pull off a killer version of the sharpshooter that I think only girls could do.

Then LayCool comes out, and lays into Natalya for being fat... which is the same exact gimmick they had with Mickie James before she left the company... for being fat.

I don't get this. Is Laycool's gimmick just bitches for the sake of being bitches and calling everyone fat? If so, it's lame. And Trish pulled off being a bitch 100x better.

Did you actually watch it live, or is your Fast Forward button broken?

[cougarjake13]

How many times have they put Hacksaw Jim Duggan or any other old guy in there? Booker T and Kevin Nash are going to be in the Rumble for the cheap legend pop, they'll toss out a few low-level guys and then be thrown over. It's not like either of them would ever win.

that part i get



im just saying if there back for anything more than the rumble then why ??

[cougarjake13]

I watched RAW last night, and first off, I saw Natalya pull off a killer version of the sharpshooter that I think only girls could do.

Then LayCool comes out, and lays into Natalya for being fat... which is the same exact gimmick they had with Mickie James before she left the company... for being fat.

I don't get this. Is Laycool's gimmick just bitches for the sake of being bitches and calling everyone fat? If so, it's lame. And Trish pulled off being a bitch 100x better.




lay cool is basically wwe's version of the beautiful people from tna

same gimmick

[conman823]

lay cool is basically wwe's version of the beautiful people from tna

same gimmick

They should actually GET the Beautiful People and fire Lay cool.

[Chimee]

They should actually GET the Beautiful People and fire Lay cool.

It wouldn't make the writing any better. They'd be doing the same shitty thing and everyone would be complaining about the talent being wasted.

[disneyspy]

i found a feed with surpringly good definition,amyone interested?

[conman823]

i found a feed with surpringly good definition,amyone interested?

Yeah I'm at work till 10

[disneyspy]

Yeah I'm at work till 10

PM COMING

[NickyL0885]

i found a feed with surpringly good definition,amyone interested?

sure

[disneyspy]

sure

sent

[NickyL0885]

sent

you're the best!

[disneyspy]

how the fuck is cm punks move supposed to be devasting?

he put orton down on his feet and orton goes out?

what the f

[NickyL0885]

how the fuck is cm punks move supposed to be devasting?

he put orton down on his feet and orton goes out?

what the f

He drops Orton but as he lands, he is hit in the head with Punks knee.

[disneyspy]

william regal is still alive?

[MagillaGorillaz]

Punk and Bryan next year's Wrestlemania main event

[spe5150]

i found a feed with surpringly good definition,amyone interested?

still working?

[disneyspy]

still working?

http://firenow.co.cc/nba2.htm

if i get banned,i get banned

[spe5150]

thanks, budday!

[disneyspy]

damn booker didnt last as long as i thought he would

sucka

[disneyspy]

without his mask kane looks like paulo,he should go back to wearing the mask

[NickyL0885]

No Triple H. I'm kinda shocked.

[brettmojo]

EL Gayo.

[disneyspy]

what the fuck?

sure i only watch WWE 2 times a year but i'm at a loss on this champ

[brettmojo]

what the fuck?

sure i only watch WWE 2 times a year but i'm at a loss on this champ
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/tumblr_leftk562o31qf8yek.gif

[TripleSkeet]

A couple of quick thoughts on the Rumble...

This was one of the best Royal Rumble matches theyve had in years. Its hard to have the same kind of match yet still make it different and exciting every year. Something thats become painfully noticeable the last few years. Some of the things done differently this time...

- 2 guys starting it off with a history from ROH for putting on fantastic matches. Just giving the sudience a quick sneak peek at some of the shit they can do when they get to start working together. I liked how they threw Regal in their as well as he taught Bryant and is close with both of them.

- The Nexus beatdown strategy. I know some people were annoyed at how they just kept jumping every star that came in and throwing them out. I found it entertaining because most of these guys were jabronis at no shot of winning it anyway so they used them to pull off a good gimmick. When Punk yelled "Whats up?" while laying into R Truth I lost it.

- John Morrisons Spidey jump. Amazing way to stay alive and extremely difficult to pull off. Completely amazed me.

- The way they used the surprise entrants. Usually its bums like the Honkytonk Man that come in get thrown out, and thats it. But even though they werent in long both Booker T and Diesel got to get the crowd a little riled up. From the spineroonie, to the Diesel chants, to the staredown with the Big Show after Nash got eliminated I think they used those guys perfectly.

- Santinos sneak attack. Ive always been a huge Santino mark anyway but I know there were people there that were like "Holy fuck, is he really gonna sneak behind this guy and throw him out???" Just the fact they planted that seed made me applaud the WWE Also considering he routinely gets some of the loudest pops of the show it was a nice little head nod towards the fans that enjoy Santino.

- Pushing a newer superstar by giving Del Rio the win. This is what they need to do and what they have been starting to do ever since Linda McMahon lost her senate race and HHH took over as director of creative. Im tired of seeing Cena, Orton, Edge and the older guys constantly win. In DelRio they have a new feud for Edge, and they set up a match with Cena and the Miz.

HHH is the reason for this. Not sure if people understand but he is basically retired. Hes not hurt anymore. If he does come back its not going to be for long stretches and its not going to be main eventing. Those days are over. Hes basically running the book now. And if you look at the last 3 months youve seen ALOT of younger guys getting pushed up the ladder. Unlike when they had the same 3-4 guys main eventing every fucking ppv for a year at a time.

[TripleSkeet]

I watched RAW last night, and first off, I saw Natalya pull off a killer version of the sharpshooter that I think only girls could do.

Then LayCool comes out, and lays into Natalya for being fat... which is the same exact gimmick they had with Mickie James before she left the company... for being fat.

I don't get this. Is Laycool's gimmick just bitches for the sake of being bitches and calling everyone fat? If so, it's lame. And Trish pulled off being a bitch 100x better.

The minute a female wrestler is on screen my fast forward is hit and it doesnt stop til they are off screen. They need to kill the womens division and make these girls valets or something. Womens wrestling blows. It was ok when you had a handfull of them working 7 minutes a night but when you are actually building angles around these borads you are taking it too far. Nobody cares about that shite.

[NickyL0885]

The minute a female wrestler is on screen my fast forward is hit and it doesnt stop til they are off screen. They need to kill the womens division and make these girls valets or something. Womens wrestling blows. It was ok when you had a handfull of them working 7 minutes a night but when you are actually building angles around these borads you are taking it too far. Nobody cares about that shite.

I think the issue is that most of the divas can't wrestle. Outside of Natalya and maybe Melina, who else can work? But I do agree, the division needs to be killed. It's only around just to try to get female viewers and not to be looked at as sexist.

[Chimee]

WWE has signed Awesome Kong to a contract, so there could be some life in the Divas division because she is about as far from a typical Diva as you can get.

I'm very happy that Del Rio won because guys like Cena and Orton will get their Wrestlemania matches like every other time they've main evented, but Del Rio can have his Rumble win, brag about it on every show between now and Wrestlemania and put on a hell of a match with, probably, Edge.

The downside is that I can now see the RAW main event being a 4-way between Punk, Cena, Orton, and Miz. It will be great for a guy like Miz to have worked his way up to that level, but a multiple person match would be a bit much. I can also see them doing a Nexus vs. Corre 8-Man tag match at some point on the card.

I could also see them doing a Big Show/Diesel match at Wrestlemania for the visual of the two squaring off, though any match between them would be dreadful.

It'll be interesting to see if they go with a Money in the Bank match to get the guys like Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler on the card or if they actually try to book matches for midcard guys.

Punk's Rumble performance was great, but it cannot top him tossing out people left and right and cutting promos in between entrants.

[TripleSkeet]

WWE has signed Awesome Kong to a contract, so there could be some life in the Divas division because she is about as far from a typical Diva as you can get.

I'm very happy that Del Rio won because guys like Cena and Orton will get their Wrestlemania matches like every other time they've main evented, but Del Rio can have his Rumble win, brag about it on every show between now and Wrestlemania and put on a hell of a match with, probably, Edge.

The downside is that I can now see the RAW main event being a 4-way between Punk, Cena, Orton, and Miz. It will be great for a guy like Miz to have worked his way up to that level, but a multiple person match would be a bit much. I can also see them doing a Nexus vs. Corre 8-Man tag match at some point on the card.

I could also see them doing a Big Show/Diesel match at Wrestlemania for the visual of the two squaring off, though any match between them would be dreadful.

It'll be interesting to see if they go with a Money in the Bank match to get the guys like Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler on the card or if they actually try to book matches for midcard guys.

Punk's Rumble performance was great, but it cannot top him tossing out people left and right and cutting promos in between entrants.

I think youre going to see Cena vs Miz and Orton vs Punk in seperate matches.

Also not sure how they will work out Nexus vs Corre but Im pretty sure they are planning Undertaker vs. Wade Barrett for Mania.

I agree it looks like they are setting up Nash vs. Show. Not sure how they can pull that off.

And Im pretty sure I heard that since they have a MITB ppv they are scratching the match from Mania this year.

[CYYYFYYY]

Did anyone else notice Riley accidentally got eliminated. I am sure things would have been slightly different.

[NickyL0885]

Did anyone else notice Riley accidentally got eliminated. I am sure things would have been slightly different.

I didn't see him go out. But I've always wondered about that. What if a guy who looks like he might fall out, actually does? Like, with Morrison and his insane way to stay in last night. What if he could not hold onto the wall or when he jumped back onto the ring stairs, he fell? I guess they'd just go on with things since he wasn't going to win. But if a guy like Del Rio, who won, got knocked out accidentally, is there a back up plan winner?

[TripleSkeet]

I didn't see him go out. But I've always wondered about that. What if a guy who looks like he might fall out, actually does? Like, with Morrison and his insane way to stay in last night. What if he could not hold onto the wall or when he jumped back onto the ring stairs, he fell? I guess they'd just go on with things since he wasn't going to win. But if a guy like Del Rio, who won, got knocked out accidentally, is there a back up plan winner?

Someone asked me this last night. I would bet they would have some kind of backup plan, which is why they usually set up who the last 4 will be. Then they can taylor the Mania match around it using the following Raws and PPV to do it. They almost had that problem the year The Rock won it by tossing out the Big Show. The spot was not an easy one and because they had the camera angle from a certain point they were able to make it work. Even though they used the later footage to add Show to the match.

[conman823]

Also I thought that Dolph Ziggler really upped his game big time last night in his match with Edge.

I will be watching him closer in the future.

[NickyL0885]

Also I thought that Dolph Ziggler really upped his game big time last night in his match with Edge.

I will be watching him closer in the future.

He is the most successful ex-spirit squad member, right?

[Kevin]

This whole unbearable Miz title run would be worth it if he got embarrassed and lost his belt to 70 yr old King.

[epo]

This whole unbearable Miz title run would be worth it if he got embarrassed and lost his belt to 70 yr old King.

I agree that Miz is horrible, but I'm not for handing the belt to Lawler.

[TripleSkeet]

I heard both Bella twins had their tits pop out on Raw tonight. Thank God for DVR.

[NickyL0885]

I heard both Bella twins had their tits pop out on Raw tonight. Thank God for DVR.

I thought I saw something! I guess you'll be able to confirm.

[NickyL0885]

I agree that Miz is horrible, but I'm not for handing the belt to Lawler.

You guys complain when they push the same guys over and over. They push Miz, a young guy, and you still complain? I don't get it.

[TripleSkeet]

I thought I saw something! I guess you'll be able to confirm.

So fast you could barely see anything. The one was trying hard to pull her top up though.

[TripleSkeet]

You guys complain when they push the same guys over and over. They push Miz, a young guy, and you still complain? I don't get it.

WWE has gotten alot better in the past 3 months. I love that Lawler won tonight. They are really starting to get away from formula and mix stuff up and thats what makes wrestling great.

They arent going to take the belt of the Miz, and hes not horrible. The guy can put on a good match and hes great on the mic. I had little faith in him when he went solo and Ill be the first to admit I was dead wrong. It shows that like always, mic skills are more important then wrestling skills in this business. If Morrison could improve on the mic hed be a main eventer in no time.

Im thinking this next PPV will feature some kind of Michael Cole run in, and a match between Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler at Wrestlemania, with Jim Ross announcing.

[epo]

You guys complain when they push the same guys over and over. They push Miz, a young guy, and you still complain? I don't get it.

Actually I'm all for the young guys. Push Morrison, DelRio, etc. I just don't see the appeal of the Miz.

And I'm glad I that HHH seems to have settled into a diminished role. I bet I like him more this way.

[brettmojo]

I thought I saw something! I guess you'll be able to confirm.

So fast you could barely see anything. The one was trying hard to pull her top up though.
Yeah I couldn't see anything. I slow mo'd the hell outta' that shit too.

[Chimee]

If Morrison could improve on the mic hed be a main eventer in no time.

Morrison is exactly why WWE needs managers. The guy cannot say three words without it sounding forced, but he can put on great matches and make great replay moments. He also needs a new finisher, preferably one that he doesn't miss most of the time.

[NITRON]

They did a surprising move with Miz. Never thought the fall guy for Miz/Morrison would end up getting the bigger push.

[TripleSkeet]

Morrison is exactly why WWE needs managers. The guy cannot say three words without it sounding forced, but he can put on great matches and make great replay moments. He also needs a new finisher, preferably one that he doesn't miss most of the time.

Exactly. I dont know what the fuck they have against managers in the WWE anymore. They have one and thats only because the wrestler cant fucking speak english.

Its like they forgot what the job of a manager was for. Guys like Bobby Heenan, Freddy Blassie, Jimmy Hart and Lou Albano MADE the guys they had in their stables. Their are plenty of old wrestlers out there that can still talk and would make phenominal managers.

[Fallon]

This whole unbearable Miz title run would be worth it if he got embarrassed and lost his belt to 70 yr old King.

That match is just to fill time until Mania.

King's gonna get his skull crushed.

[conman823]

That match is just to fill time until Mania.

King's gonna get his skull crushed.

Old School Heel Lawler would crush Miz's skull.

I don't get how anyone over the tarent 12-16 demo that WWE is going for these days would think Miz is a decent champion.

He just screams MIDCARDER in every way. mid Card look, mid card ability, and mid card mic skills.

[NickyL0885]

Old School Heel Lawler would crush Miz's skull.

I don't get how anyone over the tarent 12-16 demo that WWE is going for these days would think Miz is a decent champion.

He just screams MIDCARDER in every way. mid Card look, mid card ability, and mid card mic skills.

But he's AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWESOME!