Monday Night RAW Discussion

[Mike Kingston]

So they debut Dolph Ziggler by having him lose cleanly? Seriously, they have no idea how to get anyone over anymore.

Oh and it's Batista vs Orton in a match "four years in the making"................with two weeks of build-up.

It makes you wonder how these guys ever made any money in the first place.

[Mike Kingston]

Best thing I've seen all night....

Geico spoof commerical with Jim Duggan.

[paulisded]

What a dull show. Only the Santino segment has been worthy of watching.

[cougarjake13]

So they debut Dolph Ziggler by having him lose cleanly? Seriously, they have no idea how to get anyone over anymore.

Oh and it's Batista vs Orton in a match "four years in the making"................with two weeks of build-up.

It makes you wonder how these guys ever made any money in the first place.




and theyve prob wrestled each other in a singles match somewhere that the wwe will just forget ever happened

[cougarjake13]

Best thing I've seen all night....

Geico spoof commerical with Jim Duggan.



yeh theyve been doing some diff things lately

is that b/c of steph ??

[Chimee]

The only thing they're doing because of Steph is not showing a full body shot of Steph.

[cougarjake13]

The only thing they're doing because of Steph is not showing a full body shot of Steph.

ahh but in these technological times why would they bother ??

[paulisded]

A clean ten-minute win against Kane? Yeah, right.

[epo]

I watched 3 minutes of the show. Luckily they were the last three minutes with Jericho & crew beating up Cena. I think I lucked out.

[paulisded]

I watched 3 minutes of the show. Luckily they were the last three minutes with Jericho & crew beating up Cena. I think I lucked out.

You definitely did.

[Sue_Bender]

The only thing they're doing because of Steph is not showing a full body shot of Steph.


I kept yelling at the cameraman to show 'dat ass!


She's a thick lady these days.



Husky.

[ScottFromGA]

I'm really liking where the 2nd generation faction is going.....it might be something to keep tabs on besides Santino. Factions = Ratings....when they are entertaining and interesting.

Why am I looking out for a DX vs the 2nd generation faction (name not yet given) where DX tramples them and basically pushes them to no where? oh thats right......

Dolph Ziggler should have won....but of course, NO ONE goes over Bore-tista...

Steph needs to do a Lane Bryant spread.....I'd make a mess of myself if she did.

Far as Santino goes....he's the star of the show......MORE Santino and the Honkameter.

Stupid that they took that away from us!!

[tnbt23]

did anybody else notice that douchebag "security" guy at the beginning walking down with Jericho? (our Left, Jericho's Right) He kept gesturing like he had an "earpiece" in his ear as he was walking Jericho through the crowd when it was clearly noticeable that he didnt have one!! Over-acting ass!!!

..and how soon will it be before someone outside of WWE sees the greatness that is Santino and lures him away to the bright lights of Hollyweird?

[cougarjake13]

did anybody else notice that douchebag "security" guy at the beginning walking down with Jericho? (our Left, Jericho's Right) He kept gesturing like he had an "earpiece" in his ear as he was walking Jericho through the crowd when it was clearly noticeable that he didnt have one!! Over-acting ass!!!

..and how soon will it be before someone outside of WWE sees the greatness that is Santino and lures him away to the bright lights of Hollyweird?



santino is the best

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Nice Airplane reference btw, Knowledged_One.

Jericho is at his most entertaining right now in my opinion. He's got utter distaste for the fans and now even for his own son because he's a fan of Cena which I think is a brilliant addition to his character. "I'm going to let him watch the PPV just to see me beat the hell out of his idol." Damn, that's cold.

[JBLouisville]

Love the Santino.

Damn shame what they have done to Kane

HBK turning heel with JBL?

Jericho is awesome, but why is he wearing trunks instead of pants now?

Cody Rhodes chest hair bothers me for some reason.

Are Orton's arm Tatoo's real?

Mike Cole is really good on Raw.

[Crippler]

Michael Cole is really good on Raw.

?? http://crossvilleforums.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/Faint.gif ??

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Are you serious? He has the most forced, spoon-fed presentation out of anyone on the commentary team. It seems like he won't say anything unless Vince tells him to say it through the headset, which I'm sure is why he's on Raw. Everytime he does the uncomfortable laughing for something that isn't that funny I wanna kick him in the teeth.

[cougarjake13]

Are Orton's arm Tatoo's real?

.


yeh theyre real

[Crippler]

Are you serious? He has the most forced, spoon-fed presentation out of anyone on the commentary team. It seems like he won't say anything unless Vince tells him to say it through the headset, which I'm sure is why he's on Raw. Every time he does the uncomfortable laughing for something that isn't that funny I wanna kick him in the teeth.

Not to mention how he falls in love with his own catch phrases, however few there are. How many times in one 6 minute match can he remind us about Kofi Kingston..."controlled frenzy is what I call him!!"

Do ya Michael? Way to smoothly work your little nickname in there pal.

That would be like JR reminding us every time HHH hits the ring, "Here's Triple H, the Cerebral Assassin, that's what I calls him!"

And his knowledge of the technical names of the moves he's calling is abysmal. I figured he would eventually catch on when he first started, especially sitting next to Tazz for as long as he did. No matter how infrequently I tune in, though, within seconds I'm taken out of the flow of the match by how bad he is. Listening to Michael Cole call a wrestling match is an audible abortion.

(sorry for the rant, JBLouisville, especially if I overlooked your tags...which I really hope is the case)

[Mike Kingston]

And his knowledge of the technical names of the moves he's calling is abysmal. I figured he would eventually catch on when he first started, especially sitting next to Tazz for as long as he did.

Apparently its a Vince directive to not "call the moves" but to be "telling the story" during the matches. How you are supposed to tell a story without calling the moves is apparently an art that only he knows about b/c it doesn't work. I know it was one of Vince's big hard-on's with Joey Styles and I'm surprised that Matt Striker gets away with it now.

[Chimee]

I heard Striker mention Benoit without mentioning his name on the last ECW. I'm surprised that 1. got allowed in the first place and 2. wasn't edited out in post.

[cougarjake13]

I heard Striker mention Benoit without mentioning his name on the last ECW. I'm surprised that 1. got allowed in the first place and 2. wasn't edited out in post.

prob cause they didnt use the actual name


maybe the dum dums didnt realize it either in post

[NYHCmikeX]

Someone recently (HHH maybe) threw someone in the Crippler Crossface and JR didnt know what to call it. You could actually hear him trying to think of something to say and Tazz chimed in with "that crossface type manuever". I loffed. I'm glad on got my history of the Ladder Match DVD right before Benoit went all murdery and got edited off it.

[Knowledged_one]

yeh theyre real
and they are spectacular

[cougarjake13]

Someone recently (HHH maybe) threw someone in the Crippler Crossface and JR didnt know what to call it. You could actually hear him trying to think of something to say and Tazz chimed in with "that crossface type manuever". I loffed. I'm glad on got my history of the Ladder Match DVD right before Benoit went all murdery and got edited off it.

yeh i remember watching that


what would you call it ??


the cerebral crossface ?

the game over ??

king of kings crossface ??

[conman823]

Were you guys talking about this historic night?

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/conman823/benoitcomebackhe8.gif

[Chimee]

Were you guys talking about this historic night?

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/conman823/benoitcomebackhe8.gif

Didn't see that part, but I'm certain I saw him crying in the background.

[BillySolHarg]

Did anyone catch on RAW when Alicia/The Dancing Girl that came out with Joey STyles said to Joey "No wonder they took you off of TV..."

Was that supposed to mean because they were cheering Styles and chanting ECW?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

i guess vince does see adoption as valid hope they keep growing the stable

[celery]

So who is Kelly's beau?

I'm gonna throw out Kofi Kingston as my guess.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I thought it was going to be Punk but it might turn out that way after all if she was just lying to save face.

[Mike Kingston]

I really don't care who it is. I'd just be happy if a Kelly love story could at least have some sort of definitive ending as the last two (Punk, Balls) just kind of disappeared.

Although you know....Big Vis knows how to get over with skinny blondes. I remember Lillian Garcia was all about that at one point. Could it be a return? (I know its probably unlikely, moreso because he's always throwing up the Spocker as his hand signal and I could see how the prospect of two in the back door might scare some ladies away.)

[Don Stugots]

anyone have any thoughts on Legacy?

[Dirtbag]

I really don't care who it is. I'd just be happy if a Kelly love story could at least have some sort of definitive ending as the last two (Punk, Balls) just kind of disappeared.

Although you know....Big Vis knows how to get over with skinny blondes. I remember Lillian Garcia was all about that at one point. Could it be a return? (I know its probably unlikely, moreso because he's always throwing up the Spocker as his hand signal and I could see how the prospect of two in the back door might scare some ladies away.)
I'm sure even one in the backdoor from that monster would be frightening.

[cougarjake13]

I really don't care who it is. I'd just be happy if a Kelly love story could at least have some sort of definitive ending as the last two (Punk, Balls) just kind of disappeared.

Although you know....Big Vis knows how to get over with skinny blondes. I remember Lillian Garcia was all about that at one point. Could it be a return? (I know its probably unlikely, moreso because he's always throwing up the Spocker as his hand signal and I could see how the prospect of two in the back door might scare some ladies away.)

dont forget how they brought her in with mike knox on ecw

never explaining their relationship, or how it ended

[cougarjake13]

anyone have any thoughts on Legacy?

i love it but i always mark out to the heels love edge, loved trips as a heel with evolution




and im thinking that with dibiase out for a while filming movies that snuka jr will become a member of the legacy, hence the reason rhodes and manu were out there and we got the official name change by snuka jr



and soon after that should be natalie neidhart

[cougarjake13]

LEGACY




http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29278/8150376

RANDY ORTON - HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION




SIM SNUKA - BRUISER

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29278/4015140http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29278/5115534 http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29278/8068318

RHODES AND MANU - TAG TEAM




http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29278/7292322 http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/29278/7856114

TED DIBIASE - IC BELT AND TAG TEAM NATALYA NEIDHART - MANAGER AND WOMENS CHAMP

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Actually, Neidhart is going to eventually be managing The Foundation which will be a tag team of TJ Wilson and DH Smith.

[Don Stugots]

They should make the stable span all 3 shows and add chavo and the hart fondation.

Snuka jr and mamu should be the tag team, rhodes can be a singles and go after the US belt.

[CruelCircus]

I don't get what they did with the Tag/IC titles.

Why have an IC tourney with a final 4 of Punk/Kofi/Morrison and Mysterio, instead of Miz? Especially if you're going to have Miz/Morrison pick up the titles from Punk/Kofi? It seems to naturally write itself to have the 4 tag guys scramble for the IC title and then that heat somehow leads to the title change- maybe the tourney final is Punk vs. Kingston, and it causes some dissension between them. Mysterio didn't need to be thrown in that mix.

And then, why the hell would they have the title change hands at a house show in Canada? Why not do it the night after the PPV on Raw? There was no pressing need to get the belt off Punk before the PPV.

The whole thing seemed so half-ass.

[cougarjake13]

I don't get what they did with the Tag/IC titles.

Why have an IC tourney with a final 4 of Punk/Kofi/Morrison and Mysterio, instead of Miz? Especially if you're going to have Miz/Morrison pick up the titles from Punk/Kofi? It seems to naturally write itself to have the 4 tag guys scramble for the IC title and then that heat somehow leads to the title change- maybe the tourney final is Punk vs. Kingston, and it causes some dissension between them. Mysterio didn't need to be thrown in that mix.

And then, why the hell would they have the title change hands at a house show in Canada? Why not do it the night after the PPV on Raw? There was no pressing need to get the belt off Punk before the PPV.

The whole thing seemed so half-ass.


i gues they didnt want him to be the tag champion and #1 contender for IC title

but yeh they coulda have him lose on raw and say the win last night at the ppv took a lot outta him but guess not

[cougarjake13]

race to the rumble

hbk vs kane
jbl vs mysterio
orton vs batista
jericho vs punk


the winners of the above 4 matches will be in a fatal four way for the #1 contender





i see a hbk and jbl with whoever else it doesnt matter cause i see those other two getting knocked out or incapitated in some way

with jbl and hbk left ... jbl tells hbk to lay down cause you work for me

[celery]

Good show - Trish has only gotten hotter with her absence.

[ScottFromGA]

yea...I'd assume you'd have a chance to look wayyy better after leaving a place that you destroy your body...


any pics? I didn't watch last night.....

[cougarjake13]

yea...I'd assume you'd have a chance to look wayyy better after leaving a place that you destroy your body...


any pics? I didn't watch last night.....



yeh once they said anybody cena wanted i knew it was gonna be trish since they were in toronto



wwe wont let you post their pics


heres the link


http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/rawphotos/cenatrishvsglam/

[Don Stugots]

damn she looks great.

[cougarjake13]

damn she looks great.

i'd love to see her and kelly kelly do a double playboy spread like torrie and sable did

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I just exploded after reading that. What a great idea.

[epo]

Anyone else smell a "finger poke of doom" finish coming up?

[Dash77]

So where's DeBiese's Kid been ??
And that sucks that Shawn had to loose to JBL, but I'm glad he didn't lay down..

[SpicyMcHaggis]

DiBiase Jr. is filming The Marine 2 straight to DVD video. When he comes back he'll most likely be a face to both promote the movie and sell the comeback against The Legacy.

[Dash77]

DiBiase Jr. is filming The Marine 2 straight to DVD video. When he comes back he'll most likely be a face to both promote the movie and sell the comeback against The Legacy.

That's going to do a little worse than GAP..

[ScottFromGA]

I totally forgot that the Marine was a big feature film....


shit, even Kane's movie was a feature film......why am I thinking they were all straight to DVD's?

[foodcourtdruide]

I totally forgot that the Marine was a big feature film....


shit, even Kane's movie was a feature film......why am I thinking they were all straight to DVD's?

lol, maybe you were judging by the quality of the films?

[ScottFromGA]

im pretty sure thats it....


its bad when a WWE films movie comes on and it feels like your about to watch RAW......

[cougarjake13]

race to the rumble

hbk vs kane
jbl vs mysterio
orton vs batista
jericho vs punk


the winners of the above 4 matches will be in a fatal four way for the #1 contender





i see a hbk and jbl with whoever else it doesnt matter cause i see those other two getting knocked out or incapitated in some way

with jbl and hbk left ... jbl tells hbk to lay down cause you work for me


looks like i nailed it

[cougarjake13]

So where's DeBiese's Kid been ??
And that sucks that Shawn had to loose to JBL, but I'm glad he didn't lay down..


he didnt physically do it but he basically did with the jesus christ on a cross crucified pose

[SpicyMcHaggis]

he didnt physically do it but he basically did with the jesus christ on a cross crucified pose

looks like i nailed it

Sure did.

[Don Stugots]

i am putting this here for discussion:

-- John Cena's merchandise numbers for 2008 were the best of anyone in the history of the company with the exception of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin during his peak years and Hulk Hogan in the 1980s.


wouldnt that mean that he is NOT sold more then everyone else in history?

[Hosp]

i am putting this here for discussion:

-- John Cena's merchandise numbers for 2008 were the best of anyone in the history of the company with the exception of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin during his peak years and Hulk Hogan in the 1980s.


wouldnt that mean that he is NOT sold more then everyone else in history?

Have you not paid attention to the WWE spin machine? Those whole "Did you know?" rejoiners are all about spin. They'll talk about having the highest ratings in MyNetwork TV history, not telling you that it's only been around for 16 months and it's not really that impressive a number.

And if it were anyone but Cena, I would have considered the old school NES tshirt.

[Don Stugots]

why not say "he has the 3rd all time being selling merch."? it would be correct and sounds great when you look at #1 and 2.

[Hosp]

Because 3rd isn't 1st.

[epo]

i am putting this here for discussion:

-- John Cena's merchandise numbers for 2008 were the best of anyone in the history of the company with the exception of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin during his peak years and Hulk Hogan in the 1980s.

wouldnt that mean that he is NOT sold more then everyone else in history?

A bunch of amateurs. It should have looked like this:

John Cena's merchandise numbers for 2008 were the highest selling numbers for an individual superstar in the history of the WWE. Only the merchandise numbers for Hulk Hogan and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin surpass those numbers in the history of the organization.

[Don Stugots]

Because 3rd isn't 1st.

it doesnt always have to that "what we are doing now is the best EVER" or "there is no history to this business"

[Sue_Bender]

it doesnt always have to that "what we are doing now is the best EVER" or "there is no history to this business"

Vince only acknowledges "history" when it's convenient to his current business...


like selling DVDs or advancing specific story lines.

[Don Stugots]

Vince only acknowledges "history" when it's convenient to his current business...


like selling DVDs or advancing specific story lines.

i know but he should embrace the history more.

[Sue_Bender]

i know but he should embrace the history more.


I couldn't agree more.

I mean, I could...

but what would be the point?

It's probably enough to count.

[cougarjake13]

Have you not paid attention to the WWE spin machine? Those whole "Did you know?" rejoiners are all about spin. They'll talk about having the highest ratings in MyNetwork TV history, not telling you that it's only been around for 16 months and it's not really that impressive a number.

And if it were anyone but Cena, I would have considered the old school NES tshirt.



or that they had better numbers than monday night football and forget to mention it wasnt on that night

[NITRON]

they know they aren't the best thing since slice bread, so they got to be selective about what they compare

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Vince only acknowledges "history" when it's convenient to his current business...


like selling DVDs or advancing specific story lines.

did anyone else notice a couple of weeks ago they said evolution broke up because of randy ortons ego not him winning the belt and pissing trips off i love it

[NITRON]

yeah. not acknowledging that Randy was a "good guy" at the time and it was really "bad guy" triple H's ego that broke up the group. don't let the facts get in the way of a good storyline Vince

[Knowledged_one]

Um guys vince died in a horrific accident on raw

[Heather 8]

Um guys vince died in a horrific accident on raw

Well, apparently he's coming back in two weeks. So either he got better, or we're dealing with zombie Vince.

...dear WWe writers, I was fucking joking about the zombie Vince thing. Don't you dare.

[Knowledged_one]

Zombie vince i like it maybe he can be controlled by paul bearer and his urn

[Chimee]

What I love is how Orton says how Evolution broke up because they were all jealous of him as a way of being an egotistical heel, but that is exactly what the storyline was. Same with Jericho's character pointing out the hypocrisy of the fans and the faces. I can't cheer for the good guy any more because the bad guys are right.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

did anyone else notice a couple of weeks ago they said evolution broke up because of randy ortons ego not him winning the belt and pissing trips off i love it

hey chimee i hit that last night

[conman823]

I can't cheer for the good guy any more because the bad guys are right.

I've felt that why since I was 12. Its what made me love wrestling!

[Don Stugots]

I've felt that why since I was 12. Its what made me love wrestling!

same here. i saw no reason to root for Hogan when you had Heenan talking about what kind of ego he had.

[brettmojo]

Well, apparently he's coming back in two weeks. So either he got better, or we're dealing with zombie Vince.

...dear WWe writers, I was fucking joking about the zombie Vince thing. Don't you dare.
I'd prefer a Weekend at Bernie's Vince.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So chalk it up to another dropped storyline? I don't think we'll get a payoff on who tried to kill Vince.

[brettmojo]

So chalk it up to another dropped storyline? I don't think we'll get a payoff on who tried to kill Vince.
As long as it wasn't Rikishi under the direction of Triple H, I could care less.

[Don Stugots]

So chalk it up to another dropped storyline? I don't think we'll get a payoff on who tried to kill Vince.

The Fans.

[Chimee]

Congress

[Knowledged_one]

So chalk it up to another dropped storyline? I don't think we'll get a payoff on who tried to kill Vince.

it was nailz the convict wrestler

[cougarjake13]

it was dolph ziggler

[Sue_Bender]

it was dolph ziggler

Well, maybe that would provide his shitty gimmick some much-needed heat.

"Hello, My Name's..."

"Yes, I fucking know your name, now what else do you do?!!!"

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Well, maybe that would provide his shitty gimmick some much-needed heat.

"Hello, My Name's..."

"Yes, I fucking know your name, now what else do you do?!!!"

well he is the sole member of the spirit squad left standing so hes got that going for him so thats pretty good right?

[Sue_Bender]

well he is the sole member of the spirit squad left standing so hes got that going for him so thats pretty good right?


I believe that he's a fine wrestler...stuck with a lousy character.

Not his fault, but they'll still let him go instead of increasing his vocabulary.

[NYHCmikeX]

Not his fault, but they'll still let him go instead of increasing his vocabulary.

Or when he has to take his first drug test and pisses out nothing but decabol.

Him and the guy in ECW who is stealing "Das Wunderkid's" Alex Wright's gimmick.

[vjr97]

ric flair is the greatest wrestler ever!!!!!!! jbl should make shawn michaels kiss his ass on tv.......cody rhodes sucks.mickie james has a great ass and nice feet.....stepahnie looked hot......i hope hornsswaggle gets aids

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Can we just kill that guy who just posted that?

[Sue_Bender]

Can we just kill that guy who just posted that?


Oh, here comes Spicy with his o-pin-ion...:wink:

[conman823]

same here. i saw no reason to root for Hogan when you had Heenan talking about what kind of ego he had.

Then in what can only be described as one of the biggest storyline payoffs in Wrestling......Hogan turns heel and Heenan is vindicated!!

[Mike Kingston]

So chalk it up to another dropped storyline? I don't think we'll get a payoff on who tried to kill Vince.

I'm assuming it will be Stephanie giving her recent power mongering.

[cougarjake13]

chris jericho fired !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



by stephanie on tonights raw



im sure its only until either later when re instated by shane or next week by vince

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Either DH Smith debuts for the new 2nd generation alliance that's against Orton or Ted DiBiase Jr. returns to join Manu and Sim Snuka based on that promo I just saw.

[cougarjake13]

mystery 2nd gen member with snuka and manu ??


a returning dibiase ??

[cougarjake13]

probably gold dust

[Sue_Bender]

Are we forgetting David Sammartino?!

[epo]

I love a good swerve.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

This is a mistake. This would have been an awesome stable if it was all five of them. What's wrong with having more than three members in a stable?

[RingWraith]

No Samoans allowed I guess.:dry:

[disneyspy]

smokes! i havent watched RAW in a long time,stephanie got hot!

[disneyspy]

the old lita was a badass,that chick shouldnt have that name

[cougarjake13]

This is a mistake. This would have been an awesome stable if it was all five of them. What's wrong with having more than three members in a stable?

i liked the idea of orton making them compete to get in



who knows maybe down the line they join up or maybe they form a new wild samoans

[cougarjake13]

smokes! i havent watched RAW in a long time,stephanie got hot!

shes always been hot

[Knowledged_one]

i liked the idea of orton making them compete to get in



who knows maybe down the line they join up or maybe they form a new wild samoans

or headshrinkers
or samoan swat team

[Tenbatsuzen]

Might as well debut this here.

[disneyspy]

Might as well debut this here.

Y2GAY?
sorry had to,i'll send you a friend request

[epo]

This is a mistake. This would have been an awesome stable if it was all five of them. What's wrong with having more than three members in a stable?

Hmm. Oddly enough I like it. I think they are doing this smart by going with quality over quantity.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

QUANTITY GOD DAMN IT!

...eh, you're probably right.

[epo]

QUANTITY GOD DAMN IT!

...eh, you're probably right.

I would just fear for this:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1618/nwo63300flp3.jpg

[RingWraith]

I would just fear for this:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1618/nwo63300flp3.jpg


Ahhh the memories!!!:down:

[ScottFromGA]

I would just fear for this:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1618/nwo63300flp3.jpg

Ahhh the memories!!!:down:

yep....when we didn't know if it was fake or real anymore.


now its just so fucking fake that its beyond entertainment anymore. I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I watched wrestling.

[Don Stugots]

Legacý=whites only.

[epo]

Legacý=whites only.

No Italians then?

[conman823]

I would just fear for this:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1618/nwo63300flp3.jpg

I fuckin wept openly.....a manly weep for this pic. Lol

Honestly I got to watch most of RAW last night for the first time in awhile:

-Legacy is looking good, but needs all the members. (This is high praise since I hate Orton.)

-The Main Event was awesome! Who saw a clean finish coming?

-Micheal Cole has joined my "Don West" list of announcers. My girl commented that the King was doing the bulk of the work including calling pins and moves which isn't the color man job.

-The Women/Divas division should be downgraded to them in bikinis holding up Monday Night RAW signs like they did back in the Manhattan Center. (Linger Longer!)

[Don Stugots]

No Italians then?


Are there any 2nd generation Italians good enough for Legacy? Brunos son sucked.

[Chimee]

-Micheal Cole has joined my "Don West" list of announcers. My girl commented that the King was doing the bulk of the work including calling pins and moves which isn't the color man job.

I noticed that at the beginning of the show when Jericho walked out, Lawler pointed out that "it took some nerve" and Cole just said "Chris Jericho" and nothing else.

[Fallon]

This is a mistake. This would have been an awesome stable if it was all five of them. What's wrong with having more than three members in a stable?

Isn't their enough 2nd gen guys on the roster to have two factions? That'd be the way to go. Have them feud for months, then kick Randy out and become a giant Legacy.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Let Sim Snuka and Manu become the Sons of Samoa. DH Smith and TJ Wilson are apparently going to be brought up soon as The Foundation on Smackdown with Natayla as their manager. There's enough next gen stars to go around. Hell you could make an entire brand out of the next gen stars lately.

Sim Snuka
Manu
Joe Henning
DH Smith
Reid Flair
Ted DiBiase Jr.
Cody Rhodes
Ricky Steamboat Jr.
Brett DiBiase
Mike DiBiase
Primo Colon
Carlito Colon
Natalya Neidhart
Randy Orton
Lacey Von Erich
David Flair
Dustin Rhodes (Goldust)
Ted Hart (does that one count?)

Anyone else I'm missing?

[cougarjake13]

Let Sim Snuka and Manu become the Sons of Samoa. DH Smith and TJ Wilson are apparently going to be brought up soon as The Foundation on Smackdown with Natayla as their manager. There's enough next gen stars to go around. Hell you could make an entire brand out of the next gen stars lately.

Sim Snuka
Manu
Joe Henning
DH Smith
Reid Flair
Ted DiBiase Jr.
Cody Rhodes
Ricky Steamboat Jr.
Brett DiBiase
Mike DiBiase
Primo Colon
Carlito Colon
Natalya Neidhart
Randy Orton
Lacey Von Erich
David Flair
Dustin Rhodes (Goldust)
Ted Hart (does that one count?)

Anyone else I'm missing?



jesse from the jesse and festus tag team


do you want to count chavo guerrero ?? you could have him and the colon brothers form a LAX style faction

[brettmojo]

I mean really... I heard Vinnie Mac was making an appearance tonight so I wanted to see what he had to say... I haven't watched this in months. Since like October because I got fed up with it. I turn it on tonight and there's a contract signing? Really? I mean really? Holy fucking shit.

[brettmojo]

Wait a minute... Wait a minute, Shawn Michaels needs money so he's working for JBL? Seriously? That's the storyline they have him in? Unfuckingbelievable.

He needs money? Did they explain this somehow? Holy crap.

[Devo37]

Wait a minute... Wait a minute, Shawn Michaels needs money so he's working for JBL? Seriously? That's the storyline they have him in? Unfuckingbelievable.

He needs money? Did they explain this somehow? Holy crap.

well, the economy is in the sh!tter, and a man's gotta eat...

so did mr. mcmahon come back yet? i was watching 24 (which stinks) from 9-10.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Product placement!

[brettmojo]

That one bitch is still doing the crappy singing thing? Jesus.

Melina is still fucking hot. Who's this hot Rosa chick? They look like sisters.

[Ocho Cinco]

AWESOME return for Vince. stephanie and jericho still have an awesome feud from since back in the day.

and i am now a HUGE fan of Orton, no one f'n steps up to vince anymore and he f'n boots him in the dome the same night he comes back. haha best ending to raw in forever, i hope orton wins rumble and beats cena at mania.

[Devo37]

face turns for jericho, and orton's crew coming soon?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Jericho and Orton's Legacy will still be heels. After tonight I'm convinced that Steph is in on this Legacy being that her whole deal lately has been wanting total control of Raw.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Orton killed Vince!

What the fuck? Orton shouldn't look like he cared he hurt vince.

[Chimee]

That was the only problem I had with it. He should have just done the Orton psychotic stare and slowly left.

[Kevin]

Jericho and Orton's Legacy will still be heels. After tonight I'm convinced that Steph is in on this Legacy being that her whole deal lately has been wanting total control of Raw.

Hummm.. You see a she was the one that try to kill vince, and now this?

I see it.

[RingWraith]

That was the only problem I had with it. He should have just done the Orton psychotic stare and slowly left.

I totally agree with ya.

So far, I'm predicting Orton to win the Rumble.

[Sue_Bender]

Jericho and Orton's Legacy will still be heels. After tonight I'm convinced that Steph is in on this Legacy being that her whole deal lately has been wanting total control of Raw.


FTW!! :clap:

[conman823]

Wait a minute... Wait a minute, Shawn Michaels needs money so he's working for JBL? Seriously? That's the storyline they have him in? Unfuckingbelievable.

He needs money? Did they explain this somehow? Holy crap.

Well see to explain it, HBK went broke in the stoc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

[Sue_Bender]

Well see to explain it, HBK went broke in the stoc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

The angle's idiotic...

and HBK doesn't have the will or commitment to sell it.

It just seems like his heart isn't in it...

and his weird crossed-eyes bum me out. :glurps:

[KojiClutch]

Orton killed Vince!

What the fuck? Orton shouldn't look like he cared he hurt vince.That's the one thing I hated about it, him looking like he was sorry. The way they are pushing Orton right now reminds me of Austin from '97-98 just before he became Champion.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Interesting fact:

CM Punk became a triple crown champion last night having now held the World Heavyweight, World Tag-Team, and now Intercontinental Champion. He also did this in I believe in 203 days, the fastest amount of time this has been done with the last person to do this was Kevin Nash in 227 days. Whether this will be acknowledged on Raw or not is unknown, but it does give you an idea of what management thinks of him.

[conman823]

Can someone explain too me ( A 20+ year fan) what the big deal with Randy Orton is?

Is there something I'm missing? Because I am missing, Entertainment, exciting matches, good mic skills, and a general "caring" about the character.

See I'm no "fan" of Cena, but I can see his draw to younger kids a viewers.

[Sue_Bender]

Can someone explain too me ( A 20+ year fan) what the big deal with Randy Orton is?
Is there something I'm missing? Because I am missing, Entertainment, exciting matches, good mic skills, and a general "caring" about the character.



Headlocks.


His perpetual use of the headlock.

[KojiClutch]

I've read people argue about Orton for a long time, and I've seen it half and half. Some love him, some hate him. I like him characterwise and wrestling wise. Yes, he does love him some headlocks. I think it's the way he's just so aggressive with some of his moves (not counting the headlock) that attracts people to him. THat's just me though.

[TripleSkeet]

Gee who cant see the Steph / Orton team up through all this bullshit. Vince announces he and Steph are going to be Co-GM's and 5 minutes later, Vince is out of action again. So predictable.

As far as Orton goes, I like him for the most part. Hes good in the ring, and can cut a promo, but he does the whole heavy breathing thing way too much. Its fucking gay. And he has an awesome finishing move so what do they do? They replace it with his new move to put you out of action, The Concussion-Giver-Outer.

I liked the little promo with Golddust and Cody to sell the DVD, I thought that was cool.

Santino is STILL th best thing they have going on Raw.

And whoever mentioned David Flair, you can forget him. Hes turned into a manatee.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

And whoever mentioned David Flair, you can forget him. Hes turned into a manatee.

so what they pushed big daddy v and he was a whale

[TEXAG]

Gee who cant see the Steph / Orton team up through all this bullshit. Vince announces he and Steph are going to be Co-GM's and 5 minutes later, Vince is out of action again. So predictable.

As far as Orton goes, I like him for the most part. Hes good in the ring, and can cut a promo, but he does the whole heavy breathing thing way too much. Its fucking gay. And he has an awesome finishing move so what do they do? They replace it with his new move to put you out of action, The Concussion-Giver-Outer.

I liked the little promo with Golddust and Cody to sell the DVD, I thought that was cool.

Santino is STILL th best thing they have going on Raw.

And whoever mentioned David Flair, you can forget him. Hes turned into a manatee.

All I know is that I love The RKO, even if he does that stupid pushup, snarling look thing before he does it. The punt to the temple is at least more realistic, but I just wish he would stay with what he had. Haha both Raw and Smackdown ended with people on stretchers, how original !!!

[TjM]

Jericho and Orton's Legacy will still be heels. After tonight I'm convinced that Steph is in on this Legacy being that her whole deal lately has been wanting total control of Raw.

Makes sense she is 3rd gen

[TjM]

There is only one man that can save the WWE

Rambo Greg Gagne!l (http://www.wrestlecrap.com/classic2.html)

[cougarjake13]

Gee who cant see the Steph / Orton team up through all this bullshit. Vince announces he and Steph are going to be Co-GM's and 5 minutes later, Vince is out of action again. So predictable.

As far as Orton goes, I like him for the most part. Hes good in the ring, and can cut a promo, but he does the whole heavy breathing thing way too much. Its fucking gay. And he has an awesome finishing move so what do they do? They replace it with his new move to put you out of action, The Concussion-Giver-Outer.

I liked the little promo with Golddust and Cody to sell the DVD, I thought that was cool.

Santino is STILL th best thing they have going on Raw.

And whoever mentioned David Flair, you can forget him. Hes turned into a manatee.



i dont remember anyone mentioning david flair, but a few have brought up reid flair, who just started a lil while back

[Sue_Bender]

i dont remember anyone mentioning david flair, but a few have brought up reid flair, who just started a lil while back

Exactly.

NO ONE mentioned David Flair.

He just wanted to say, "Manatee".

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Maybe the reason Orton looked legitimately scared at what he did after the punt kick was because according to JR's BBQ Blog...he legitimately gave him a concussion.

(Moments before the segment)

Vince: Make sure it's real legit out there. Gimmie your best shot.

Randy: I dunno, Mr. McMahon, you could get hurt.

Vince: Hey, I wouldn't ask you to do anything I wouldn't do myself.

Randy: Right.

(Vince leaves curtain)

Randy: Hey, wait a minute...

[cougarjake13]

Maybe the reason Orton looked legitimately scared at what he did after the punt kick was because according to JR's BBQ Blog...he legitimately gave him a concussion.

(Moments before the segment)

Vince: Make sure it's real legit out there. Gimmie your best shot.

Randy: I dunno, Mr. McMahon, you could get hurt.

Vince: Hey, I wouldn't ask you to do anything I wouldn't do myself.

Randy: Right.

(Vince leaves curtain)

Randy: Hey, wait a minute...



ya know i was wondering that cause in most if not all his other punts he doesnt make the kind of contact he did with mc mahon last night

esp when they showed the replay you could see he hit him dead on with full force

[cougarjake13]

PREDICTION





JBL defeats cena due to hbk helping in some way but jbl doesnt win title


setting up cena vs hbk at mania



or possibly jbl is about to win, hbk inadvertently gets in the way and gets the pin

michaels new champ




all i know is somehow its gonna be hbk vs cena at mania

esp after that promo cena did on raw during the signing

[conman823]

Maybe the reason Orton looked legitimately scared at what he did after the punt kick was because according to JR's BBQ Blog...he legitimately gave him a concussion.

(Moments before the segment)

Vince: Make sure it's real legit out there. Gimmie your best shot.

Randy: I dunno, Mr. McMahon, you could get hurt.

Vince: Hey, I wouldn't ask you to do anything I wouldn't do myself.

Randy: Right.

(Vince leaves curtain)

Randy: Hey, wait a minute...

If thats true it would be the great fucking thing to happen in wrestling since Vince preformed a "shining wizard" into the ring and tore both quads.

(Linger Longer)

[conman823]

I think triple threat at Wrestlemania:
-JBL as champ.
-Fire Micheals after winning the title next week.
-If Micheals wins at Mania he will have enough money to support his family.
- Cena helps HBK win at Mania.
- Micheals and Cena start a best of infinity series after mania.

[cougarjake13]

I think triple threat at Wrestlemania:
-JBL as champ.
-Fire Micheals after winning the title next week.
-If Micheals wins at Mania he will have enough money to support his family.
- Cena helps HBK win at Mania.
- Micheals and Cena start a best of infinity series after mania.



yet another possibilty




although we dont know who wins the rumble yet and whoever that is may go for the raw title

[KojiClutch]

I think triple threat at Wrestlemania:
-JBL as champ.
-Fire Micheals after winning the title next week.
-If Micheals wins at Mania he will have enough money to support his family.
- Cena helps HBK win at Mania.
- Micheals and Cena start a best of infinity series after mania.I would actually enjoy this storyline. However, I don't want to have to watch Michaels carry TWO men in a match at WrestleMania.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

When all WWE talent quote Vince by saying "he wouldn't ask us to do anything he wouldn't do in the ring," that scares the shit out of me because over the past couple of years, Vince has had some serious beat downs done to him in the ring. I don't know if it's to give no excuse to his talent or if it's an ego stroke, but man, that's a lot to ask for when your own boss is doing crazy shit in the ring and he thinks you should do the same by example.

[conman823]

When all WWE talent quote Vince by saying "he wouldn't ask us to do anything he wouldn't do in the ring," that scares the shit out of me because over the past couple of years, Vince has had some serious beat downs done to him in the ring. I don't know if it's to give no excuse to his talent or if it's an ego stroke, but man, that's a lot to ask for when your own boss is doing crazy shit in the ring and he thinks you should do the same by example.

Bah, When Vince rip-cords down from the roof THEN I will give him some real cred.

[conman823]

yet another possibilty

although we dont know who wins the rumble yet and whoever that is may go for the raw title

Rumble winner will go for the Smackdown title, SD needs the bump. RAW has a good start on WM storyline.

[NickyL0885]

People can say what they wish but HBK can still wrestle. His match with Cena on Raw 2 weeks ago was great. I'd love to see him as champ again.

[Fallon]

I'm hoping HBK helps JBL with the title. Then maybe gets fired from JBL or get into an argument after, then somehow gets into the Rumble match. Easy way they can do this is have HBK saying he can earn more money by main eventing Mania and winning the title.

[TjM]

:ohmy:

[TripleSkeet]

Sim Snuka
Manu
Joe Henning
DH Smith
Reid Flair
Ted DiBiase Jr.
Cody Rhodes
Ricky Steamboat Jr.
Brett DiBiase
Mike DiBiase
Primo Colon
Carlito Colon
Natalya Neidhart
Randy Orton
Lacey Von Erich
David Flair
Dustin Rhodes (Goldust)
Ted Hart (does that one count?)

Anyone else I'm missing?

Exactly.

NO ONE mentioned David Flair.

He just wanted to say, "Manatee".

Youre right though, I do love a good "fat boy manatee" reference. :D

[Sue_Bender]

Youre right though, I do love a good "fat boy manatee" reference. :D


I apologize for my partial mistake, Tripleskeet.

I'm a conclusion jumper.

[TEXAG]

I'm hoping HBK helps JBL with the title. Then maybe gets fired from JBL or get into an argument after, then somehow gets into the Rumble match. Easy way they can do this is have HBK saying he can earn more money by main eventing Mania and winning the title.
We need anther HBK title reign !!!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Sim Snuka
Manu
Joe Henning
DH Smith
Reid Flair
Ted DiBiase Jr.
Cody Rhodes
Ricky Steamboat Jr.
Brett DiBiase
Mike DiBiase
Primo Colon
Carlito Colon
Natalya Neidhart
Randy Orton
Lacey Von Erich
David Flair
Dustin Rhodes (Goldust)
Ted Hart


I'd like to add to that list...

Jesse (Terry "Ray" Gordy Jr.)
Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Russ Von Erich
Matt Anoa'i (formerly known as Rosey)

[Cherry Pie]

I'd like to add to that list...

Jesse (Terry "Ray" Gordy Jr.)
Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Russ Von Erich
Matt Anoa'i (formerly known as Rosey)

i like this posts mainly because Rosey is a nice guy.

see I'm Training to be a wrestler and i get trained by Sam fatu and his cousin SAM fatu

anyways rosey dropped by one day.

[Cherry Pie]

oh and funny pic

http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq211/cherry_pie_wb/raw817photo009ay1.jpg

[Dirtbag]

RVD came back at the Royal Rumble. I guess the one good thing about barely being a fan anymore is that when something cool happens you haven't known about it for weeks in advance.

[Cherry Pie]

fucking hate orton :furious:

[Heather 8]

Your sig is way too big, Cherry. I'm sure someone in this thread (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76133) could redesign that pic for you.

[Mike Kingston]

RVD came back at the Royal Rumble. I guess the one good thing about barely being a fan anymore is that when something cool happens you haven't known about it for weeks in advance.

I'm not sure anyone knew about it as it sounded like a last minute thing. It didn't hit the internet news sites until he was actually in the building.

Still, actual surprises are very rare and very cool these days. The Rumble seems to be the place for these to happen.

[Don Stugots]

We need anther HBK title reign !!!

ewww, no we dont

[MIKEYDAKEN]

could you imagine that goofy eye next to the belt at all times. wish he would just get it fixed

[Don Stugots]

could you imagine that goofy eye next to the belt at all times. wish he would just get it fixed

a well place chair shot would do the trick.


i am enjoying legacy but i think they need a 4th guy to round it out. Orton can play the Ric Flair AND the Arn Anderson role.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

a well place chair shot would do the trick.


i am enjoying legacy but i think they need a 4th guy to round it out. Orton can play the Ric Flair AND the Arn Anderson role.

and with enough chair shots and the fact that he likes rocking a crossface ever now and again we could get another benoit style family fun

[cougarjake13]

nice surprise of rvd coming back


what happened to the rumored christian appearance

[Don Stugots]

Wait for it....

[MIKEYDAKEN]

nice surprise of rvd coming back


what happened to the rumored christian appearance

i hope they bring christian in to back up jeff the old brother swap hope they do it

[cougarjake13]

Wait for it....

still an hour to go

[cougarjake13]

elimination chamber will return at no way out


im actually glad that they dont kill this match to death by overuse

[KojiClutch]

Anticipation builds.........

What will this "legal action" be against Orton?

Where is Christian?

Tune in tonight! (Well, for the Orton thing. Christian won't be acknowledged)

[epo]

I'm impressed that Orton finally is picking up the ball and running with it in a big way.

[Edwin]

Orton going with the "medical condition" angle. Goofy, but cool.

[Kevin]

Randy Orton. ITS NOT MY FAULT!

[Don Stugots]

not bad so far but he should be COLD HEARTED and not be pulling a greaseman

[celery]

Randy Orton. ITS NOT MY FAULT!

waddle doodle

[Don Stugots]

i think they will win the belts tonight, to show that the WWE supports our President.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

really enjoy these two teams good back and forth verbally now if only the matches were as good...

[cougarjake13]

yeh miz n morrison have had it for a while


right before a ppv and they dont have tag matches at ppv's for belts much anymore

[Kevin]

i think they will win the belts tonight, to show that the WWE supports our President.



YES THEY CAN!!!

[Kevin]

No They Can't

[celery]

Really good match - Miz and Morrisson just keep getting better.

[epo]

YES THEY CAN!!!

No they didn't.

[Don Stugots]

No They Can't

i am glad i was wrong.

[epo]

Question: How long has it been since the WWE has had a set of champions this young?

[Kevin]

Question: How long has it been since the WWE has had a set of champions this young?



The Rockers? Edge and Christian?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

so is the elimination chamber gonna be 2 belts up for grabs for one winner or just three guys from each show going at it for each respective belt?

[epo]

The Rockers? Edge and Christian?

I'm really impressed that their oldest champ is Edge. Its good they finally seem to be over depending on the same ol' crowd.

[Don Stugots]

i cant stand this guy either. stop smiling idiot.

[epo]

i cant stand this guy either. stop smiling idiot.

Are you sure you aren't misdirecting your anger with that puppet of yours?

[Kevin]

Kofi seems to get good pop. I would think they would find someone else to be Kane's sacraficial lamb

[Kevin]

Errrr... YES HE CAN!

[disneyspy]

kane sux,

[Don Stugots]

Are you sure you aren't misdirecting your anger with that puppet of yours?

he posted that. it was far too nasty to be me.

[Sue_Bender]

kane sux,

He bores me to tears.

[cougarjake13]

kane is useless

[cougarjake13]

Question: How long has it been since the WWE has had a set of champions this young?

how young was jericho the 1st time he won, when he was undisputed champ ??

[Don Stugots]

Jericho is going to be Bam Bam Bigelow to THE RAM's LT? stupid.

[Sue_Bender]

Is this a good career move for Mickey Rourke?

And if they actually tangle, what does it do for Jericho?

[Edwin]

Jericho/Mickey Rourke...look out!

I have missed a lot of WWE lately...when did they turn Michaels into a creampuff? What happened to HBK that would cut great and funny promos?

Oh...and is HHH hurt? Havent seen him in a while.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Jericho is going to be Bam Bam Bigelow to THE RAM's LT? stupid.

unless vince has it look legit then have jericho pull a shoot fight cause vince was not a fan of the wrestler when it came out. would be great to see micky rourke get destroyed by jericho

[cougarjake13]

Is this a good career move for Mickey Rourke?

And if they actually tangle, what does it do for Jericho?

same as it did for big show last year


nothing

[cougarjake13]

Jericho/Mickey Rourke...look out!

I have missed a lot of WWE lately...when did they turn Michaels into a creampuff? What happened to HBK that would cut great and funny promos?

Oh...and is HHH hurt? Havent seen him in a while.



michaels is in a lame gimmick where hes broke and works for jbl



trips is on smackdown

[Sue_Bender]

same as it did for big show last year


nothing

That's what I fear.

Cheap, fast heat that no one remembers a week after the event.

There are no long term benefits.

[epo]

Michael Cole is retarded. Shawn Michaels is "Mr Wrestlemania"?

I guess the Undertaker has an awful record at Mania.

[cougarjake13]

That's what I fear.

Cheap, fast heat that no one remembers a week after the event.

There are no long term benefits.

all it seems to be is a way to get non wrestling fans to buy the ppv



mcmahon vs trump
show vs mayweather
jericho vs rourke

[Knowledged_one]

all it seems to be is a way to get non wrestling fans to buy the ppv



mcmahon vs trump
show vs mayweather
jericho vs rourke

dont forget walter peyton helping at summer slam

[Sue_Bender]

Michael Cole is retarded. Shawn Michaels is "Mr Wrestlemania"?

I guess the Undertaker has an awful record at Mania.


Cole is a retard, however...from my faulty memory, I'd say Shawn's matches at Wrestlemania are FAR better.

More than half of The Undertakers' opponents were just a mockery...

Mark Henry

Big Show & A-Train

Big Boss Man

Sycho Sid

King Kong Bundy

Giant Gonzales

Jake "The Snake" Roberts

Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka


His best Wrestlemania matches in my opinion were against Flair and Bautista.

[Edwin]

michaels is in a lame gimmick where hes broke and works for jbl



trips is on smackdown

Oh I hate how they try to keep the two shows even. HHH should be on Mondays.

[cougarjake13]

Michael Cole is retarded. Shawn Michaels is "Mr Wrestlemania"?

I guess the Undertaker has an awful record at Mania.




not to defend cole but thats been hbk's nickname for awhile


he's only using it , he didnt come up with it

[epo]

I have a question for the WWE. Why is the champion John Cena, competing in a qualifying match for the Elimination Chamber match?

Anyone else see the lack of logic in that?

[Knowledged_one]

all it seems to be is a way to get non wrestling fans to buy the ppv



mcmahon vs trump
show vs mayweather
jericho vs rourke

oh and pete rose his wm appearances were the best

[cougarjake13]

I have a question for the WWE. Why is the champion John Cena, competing in a qualifying match for the Elimination Chamber match?

Anyone else see the lack of logic in that?



yeh i dont get that either


other than to continue the triple fued of hbk,jbl and cena

[Kevin]

not to defend cole but thats been hbk's nickname for awhile


he's only using it , he didnt come up with it

Michaels said it out of nowhere a few years back

[cougarjake13]

I have a question for the WWE. Why is the champion John Cena, competing in a qualifying match for the Elimination Chamber match?

Anyone else see the lack of logic in that?

for hbk to lose


to give jbl a reason to fire him


setting up the jbl vs hb match at mania

[cougarjake13]

here it comes

[cougarjake13]

Michaels said it out of nowhere a few years back

missed that then

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Oh I hate how they try to keep the two shows even. HHH should be on Mondays.

are you or have you ever been triple h or stephanie mcmahon ?

[cougarjake13]

Oh I hate how they try to keep the two shows even. HHH should be on Mondays.

i think it was more cause they were changing stations on sd! and wanted bigger names over there to help sell it

[Edwin]

are you or have you ever been triple h or stephanie mcmahon ?

I wish I was Stephanie so I could stare at my enormous boobs all day.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Is it just me or has Lawler been on fire in commentary? He's been allowed to speak more than Cole and it has a much more welcomed effect to be honest. The less I hear Cole the better.

[disneyspy]

i bet jericho wins this

[cougarjake13]

whats the point of this match ??


if jericho wins he wont face rourke at mania

cause then he'd have 2 matches if he somehow wins at no way out


unless they ll just have him in there ( elim chamber ) to lose





and he wins

[NickyL0885]

anyone else getting fucking annoyed by these Afro Samurai commericals everytime Raw goes to break? I hope its not just me who is getting these.

[Chimee]

anyone else getting fucking annoyed by these Afro Samurai commericals everytime Raw goes to break? I hope its not just me who is getting these.

I watched the marathon of Afro Samurai on Spike last night and there were at least one every break. They really want to push the game hard, but it's not going to help any.

[Edwin]

Orton's music annoys the shit out of me.

[RingWraith]

Orton's music annoys the shit out of me.

At least it's better than his last theme.

[Tenbatsuzen]

For the life of me, I'm trying to figure out why they are hyping Rourke for Wrestlemania now. I know Rourke will get a huge paycheck out of this, but this is destroying his Oscar hopes.

Oscar votes are in by 2/12. They couldn't wait til then?

Dumb. Just dumb.

[Edwin]

Love Shane-o-Mac!

[epo]

Is Orton is cahoots with Shane or Steph?

[Kevin]

Shane fights like a woman.

[Kevin]

Is Orton is cahoots with Shane or Steph?

I was expecting Orton and Shane to shake hands right then.

[RingWraith]

I was expecting Orton and Shane to shake hands right then.

That's what thought was gonna happen too.

[Chimee]

I predict Orton vs. Shane at No Way Out with Steph turning on Shane.

[Sue_Bender]

For the life of me, I'm trying to figure out why they are hyping Rourke for Wrestlemania now. I know Rourke will get a huge paycheck out of this, but this is destroying his Oscar hopes.

Oscar votes are in by 2/12. They couldn't wait til then?

Dumb. Just dumb.

I can't believe Rourke is doing this.

It disappoints me greatly. :wallbash:

[MIKEYDAKEN]

does anyone else think they just killed legacy by having the 40 something shane o'mac taking out all three of them with little trouble. and if everyone is old enough to remember mickey rouke has always been his worst enemy since before he quit acting to become a boxer

[Chimee]

does anyone else think they just killed legacy by having the 40 something shane o'mac taking out all three of them with little trouble

I think it's one thing for him to beat up on Rhodes and DiBiase, but the night after Orton wins the Rumble, he shouldn't get his ass kicked by Shane without fighting back at all.

[disneyspy]

shane o representin the mean street posse