Monday Night RAW Discussion

[Fallon]

any mickie james last nite? i dont watch anymore cuz cena came back.

Cena and Mickie were making out during the whole show.

[Dame1]

Cena and Mickie were making out during the whole show.

Cena would get his monkey azz whooped. By me!

[Dougie Brootal]

Cena and Mickie were making out during the whole show.

thats it, shes ruined.

[Kevin]

thats it, shes ruined.

Its true man.. Then Kelly Kelly joined in.

[Dame1]

thats it, shes ruined.

It's depressing.:glurps:

[ToddEVF]

is it just me or does the Kennedy Flair promo seem more live kennedy looking into a mirror to the future.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

In the words of Shawn Michaels, "Platinum blonde hair, cocky attitude, and a catchphrase...it'll never work! Kennedy is definitely the future of the WWE. Oh and two Elimination Chamber matches is a stupid idea in my opinion.

[ToddEVF]

agreed, 2 matches with the same gimmick in the same PPV ruin the novelty, especially when its a match done usually once a year

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Fallon , lets get started on the RFW thread

Soupy Dreck is gonna be my next Victom

[ToddEVF]

Well the card is set, so why the hell not

[cougarjake13]

agreed, 2 matches with the same gimmick in the same PPV ruin the novelty, especially when its a match done usually once a year

last one was in 2006 albeit dec 06

[cougarjake13]

is it just me or does the Kennedy Flair promo seem more live kennedy looking into a mirror to the future.

could be

depends on how badly the wwe fucks him over or not

[ToddEVF]

i agree with that cougar, however i was referring more to they look they both have. If Kennedy stays in the business as long as Flair has, I feel he would have that flair look.

[The Nature Boy]

thats it, shes ruined.

who is that in your sig?

[Dougie Brootal]

who is that in your sig?

mickie james.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Does anyone notice this? The commentators are only making a few comments here and there, letting the action speak for itself. TNA are you listening? Take note that you don't have to fucking talk every five milliseconds!

[Chimee]

That's what I was thinking as I watched the Mayweather/Big Show segment from No Way Out. If it was TNA they'd be yelling at every punch.

[Chimee]

The JBL chants as he destroys Hornswoggle are great.

[cougarjake13]

god damn candace looks fucking hot

[Chimee]

I predict this will end with Orton punching HHH, HHH hitting the Pedigree on him and Cena goes to Wrestlemania.

[cougarjake13]

I predict this will end with Orton punching HHH, HHH hitting the Pedigree on him and Cena goes to Wrestlemania.

sounds about right

[Fallon]

I predict this will end with Orton punching HHH, HHH hitting the Pedigree on him and Cena goes to Wrestlemania.

WRONG! Try again dumbass!

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6250/garissonoo2.jpg

You were close though.

[Fallon]

Sorry Doug. Cena banged another one of your redheads.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/75/59833505tc3.jpg

[Kevin]

Sorry Doug... Maria too..

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s81/Batista_lover_54/John%20Cena/ol.jpg

[RingWraith]

Does anyone notice this? The commentators are only making a few comments here and there, letting the action speak for itself. TNA are you listening? Take note that you don't have to fucking talk every five milliseconds!

They just don't talk, they f'n scream, yell at everything that f'n happens!!!!! To them, every second is the most exciting thing that they ever witnessed.

JR only screams during/after a main event or when Stone Cold's around.

[Dougie Brootal]

goddamn that john cena! i hope he dies getting hit by a car watching an illegal street race.

[cougarjake13]

goddamn that john cena! i hope he dies getting hit by a car watching an illegal street race.

i think this means that orton will lsoe the title, but not directly

[Chimee]

I want to see Ric Flair run in and put Orton in the Figure-Four as HHH hits the Pedigree on Cena for the win setting up Flair's final match at Backlash against HHH in a career vs. title match.

[conman823]

Sorry I just don't see where the money is putting Orton in the match with HHH and Cena.

Cena and HHH are the money draw. Orton should lose the belt before the event.

Also Ortons "wrestling" during the match was horrible and I cringed. Whats that slinking around on the mat gawking at Cena like he wanted to slip him the sausage, it fuckin creeps me out man!

[foodcourtdruide]

Great Hardy/Jericho match! Can't wait for money in the bank match. It's safe to say wrestling is good again.

Orton is a great heel champion, the Big Show/Mayweather feud has been very good and the WWE is pushing GOOD talent and every week there's a really good match. Smackdown is still a bit slow, mainly because of Chuck Palumbo, but overall I'd say WWE is the best it's been in years.

[Chimee]

At least Hornswoggle isn't Vince's son anymore.

[epo]

Great Hardy/Jericho match! Can't wait for money in the bank match. It's safe to say wrestling is good again.

Orton is a great heel champion, the Big Show/Mayweather feud has been very good and the WWE is pushing GOOD talent and every week there's a really good match. Smackdown is still a bit slow, mainly because of Chuck Palumbo, but overall I'd say WWE is the best it's been in years.

I was watching that match thinking "How long will it be until they turn Jericho heel?"

[SpicyMcHaggis]

You know, I was wondering how they were gonna set this up between Michaels and Flair. This is a real logical storyline. I'm shocked.

[ToddEVF]

I'm waiting on Jericho's heel turn, too bad HHH will make his heel turn after mania, thus leaving raw even more unbalanced. And jericho will stay a face for a little bit longer

And yes, the HBK Flair storyline has me shocked. It actually makes sense

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm waiting on Jericho's heel turn, too bad HHH will make his heel turn after mania, thus leaving raw even more unbalanced. And jericho will stay a face for a little bit longer

And yes, the HBK Flair storyline has me shocked. It actually makes sense

I'm looking forward to see how things work out after mania, but Jericho, HHH, Orton top heels and Cena, Hardy, HBK as top faces sounds really good. I really hope they let Jericho lead a stable.

Also, anyone else think Kennedy just isn't talented enough to jump into the next tier?

[conman823]

Great Hardy/Jericho match! Can't wait for money in the bank match. It's safe to say wrestling is good again.

Orton is a great heel champion, the Big Show/Mayweather feud has been very good and the WWE is pushing GOOD talent and every week there's a really good match. Smackdown is still a bit slow, mainly because of Chuck Palumbo, but overall I'd say WWE is the best it's been in years.

So lets look at the last 2 RAWS. Cena pins Orton clean for the right to fight for a belt he just one there-by eliminating Orton from the situation but wait no it wasn't a title match because they said so so Ortons still champ even though he lost clean OMGWFTBBQ??

Same as above....just substitute Cena/Orton with Hardy/Jericho.

Safe to say wrestlings good again? Orton is a horrible champion, the IC title will not be defended for the 6th fucking year in a row at wrestlemaina, and both champions were BEAT but didn't lose the belts.

Jericho apparently came back not to save us from Orton, but to be a Mid Card Moe again. Thanks Chris.

Show/Mayweather we'll see if it turns out good or just slows down the whole show as these gimmick matches usually do.

MITB isn't original anymore its become the "Let throw the midcard in a ring for 20mins match".

Hornswaggle mcMahon gimmick.........god why.

Why isn't JBL on Smackdown? God knows they need him!!

Still its about 10% better then it was last year.

[cougarjake13]

I'm looking forward to see how things work out after mania, but Jericho, HHH, Orton top heels and Cena, Hardy, HBK as top faces sounds really good. I really hope they let Jericho lead a stable.

Also, anyone else think Kennedy just isn't talented enough to jump into the next tier?

he is ,but not on raw

either smackdown or ecw champ first

[King Imp]

So, just like that, the whole JBL-Jericho feud is over? That lasted real long.

[CruelCircus]

That Orton/Kennedy exchange got me thinking if they were setting up something. Given how hot Hardy has been, and how all the fans want to see him get a title run, what are the odds that Hardy wins MITB and then uses it to take Orton's title at the end of Wrestlemania, ie "the Kennedy Plan"?

[foodcourtdruide]

So lets look at the last 2 RAWS. Cena pins Orton clean for the right to fight for a belt he just one there-by eliminating Orton from the situation but wait no it wasn't a title match because they said so so Ortons still champ even though he lost clean OMGWFTBBQ??

Same as above....just substitute Cena/Orton with Hardy/Jericho.

Safe to say wrestlings good again? Orton is a horrible champion, the IC title will not be defended for the 6th fucking year in a row at wrestlemaina, and both champions were BEAT but didn't lose the belts.

Jericho apparently came back not to save us from Orton, but to be a Mid Card Moe again. Thanks Chris.

Show/Mayweather we'll see if it turns out good or just slows down the whole show as these gimmick matches usually do.

MITB isn't original anymore its become the "Let throw the midcard in a ring for 20mins match".

Hornswaggle mcMahon gimmick.........god why.

Why isn't JBL on Smackdown? God knows they need him!!

Still its about 10% better then it was last year.

1. You're acting like this is the first time a non-title match with the champion has determined a title shot. That has been happening for years and I'm sure happened during the glory days of the Attitude era.

2. Jericho/Hardy was a great match and made sense for what it was. It was MITB qualifying match, not a chance for a shot at the IC title.

3. Orton is a very good heel champion and I'll argue that all day long. What don't you like about him? He has great in ring psychology, is not a terrible worker and his dry bitter attitude is excellent for a heel.

4. Jericho is re-building his character. If he came back and immediately became champ people would be complaining just the same.

5. You were not impressed with the punch Big Show took? As far as gimmick matches go, the best hyped one since Tyson.

6. MITB match is meant to build midcarders up. Hardy is in the match and he's not a midcarder. Also, Jericho is playing a midcard role right now but I doubt that will last much longer. I don't know how you can be tired of MITB, when every MITB match has been awesome.

7. Hornswoggle/McMahon is silly, but a million times better than Trump/McMahon.

8. Agree JBL should be on Smackdown.

9. I say it's twice as good as last year. Last year was unwatchable. I'm first to complain when the product sucks, but I have to admit that lately I've been entertained.

[King Imp]

So, how long before poor Mickie gets released?

It seemed like they were leading to another Mickie vs Beth match at WM for the title, but instead decided to put the God awful Candice & Maria vs. Beth & Melina match on.

Guaranteed they probably end up having Candice win the belt back at the next PPV after WM, even though Mickie is by far the most popular one there based on fan reactions. Leave it to clueless Vince to think we want some skank with zero wrestling ablility as the champ.

[conman823]

IMO Randy Orton is still a work in progress. I cannot accept him as World Champion material. I feel he still needs to improve his inring work, mic skills, and overall "heel-ness". I definately think he has improved, and is improving. He should not be the current world champion, or at least his reign should not have extended to Wrestlemaina.

hardy should be in a headline match defending his IC title against a good opponent. The match should have its own build-up and hype. (i.e.- Rock/Austin IC Title, hart/Hennig IC Title, hart/Piper IC Title) These matches elevated careers and sold seats. You cannot say Hardy ISN'T a mid carder, but its OK for him to be in MIBLM. I.C. Title is TOP MIDCARD.

Take out Hardy/Jericho from MIBLM and give them a well built IC Title match for WM complete with Jericho heel turn and THATS a great match.

MIBLM is the only thing I youtube after WM the last few years because its sooo good, but like anything it has run its course and should be replaced by another mid card feature match.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm pretty sure Lillian Garcia just said X-Division.

[cougarjake13]

I'm pretty sure Lillian Garcia just said X-Division.

she said exhibition

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Thanks for that clarification. Doesn't Floyd know they can't talk at the same time especially over satellite? It's too confusing to viewers.

[cougarjake13]

Thanks for that clarification. Doesn't Floyd know they can't talk at the same time especially over satellite? It's too confusing to viewers.

guess not


yeh it sounded close enough to be x division which would have been funny

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Didn't Jericho invent the MITB match?

[cougarjake13]

Didn't Jericho invent the MITB match?

what do you mean by invent ??


like he was the one who came up with the idea???

[Chimee]

Like he was the guy that first mentioned it on the air.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm not sure if he invented the MITB, but I think he has like... 1,004 moves..

Let's list them, I'll start:

armbar..

[epo]

I'm not sure if he invented the MITB, but I think he has like... 1,004 moves..

Let's list them, I'll start:

armbar..

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[Gmann]

Santino is RAW gold!!!

[cougarjake13]

Santino is RAW gold!!!

he is funny

[Chimee]

Wow, Mayweather really is boring... and so is Mike Adamle.

Way to not know your lines, stupid.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

After Wrestlemania, Mayweather is gonna be done with WWE. I'm pretty sure they're not gonna try and waist anymore time with him on a microphone after tonight.

[cougarjake13]

Wow, Mayweather really is boring... and so is Mike Adamle.

Way to not know your lines, stupid.

yeh both of them are horrible

at least after mania mayweather goes away

[ToddEVF]

let me guess, next week the main even will be Triple H vs. Cena. Hmm. . . wonder how i deduced it

[cougarjake13]

let me guess, next week the main even will be Triple H vs. Cena. Hmm. . . wonder how i deduced it

yeh


and on another wild guess the week after it will be cena vs orton

[ToddEVF]

yeh


and on another wild guess the week after it will be cena vs orton

also the fact they are promoting that raw will feature Wrestlemania rematches helped a bit. And that would be a rematch from Wrestlemania 22's main event.

[cougarjake13]

also the fact they are promoting that raw will feature Wrestlemania rematches helped a bit. And that would be a rematch from Wrestlemania 22's main event.


ahh


didnt see that connection

[ToddEVF]

let me guess, next week the main even will be Triple H vs. Cena. Hmm. . . wonder how i deduced it

boy was i wrong. . .

HHH vs Kane (Wrestlemania 15)

and

Cena vs Michaels (Wrestlemania 23)

Edit:
Hardy is defending the IC title? WOW!

[MagillaGorillaz]

I forgot it was three hours tonight.

[Kevin]

I forgot it was three hours tonight.

Fuck, Me too.

[oh_kee_pa]

the best is that they made the Sheik put on pants...
he definitely was not wearing those during the promo shot showing them to the ring

thank god hardy finally defended that belt... and thank god they finally moved it off of him

[Tenbatsuzen]

Floyd looks like Black Orton.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So has WWE completely failed in making Floyd Mayweather a face? No one is cheering for him.

[Chimee]

Did Mayweather just start crying?

[Kevin]

So has WWE completely failed in making Floyd Mayweather a face? No one is cheering for him.

Well it did not help that they introduced him in Dela hoya country. That seemed to set the tone for the rest of the country.

[cougarjake13]

my guess is that if jericho loses the ic belt tonight to big show

its gonna mean he wins the MITB match

[Chimee]

Well, Jericho is already defending the Intercontinental Title more than Jeff Hardy did.

[cougarjake13]

Well, Jericho is already defending the Intercontinental Title more than Jeff Hardy did.

yeh not his fault though


if you look at the recent history of the ic belt, at least since christian had it

theres like a month or 2 of a fued betw champ and challenger, after challenger finally wins nothing happens with the belt until they ( wwe ) wants it on someone else and the story repeats

a short mini fued and once new champ is crowned, no title action til they want it to change again

[SpicyMcHaggis]

2 Things:

- Big Show is now my new favorite in the WWE. He's gone leaps and bounds as far as his promos go. Can't wait to see his match tonight.

- Are CM Punk and Carlito going really stiff on each other or is it just me?

[cougarjake13]

2 Things:

- Big Show is now my new favorite in the WWE. He's gone leaps and bounds as far as his promos go. Can't wait to see his match tonight.

- Are CM Punk and Carlito going really stiff on each other or is it just me?

nah i saw it too



big show on conan this week

another reason to suspect he wins the title tonight ???

[Fallon]

- Are CM Punk and Carlito going really stiff on each other or is it just me?

At a RAW brand house show in Louisville on March 1st, Carlito came out to do an interview wearing a CM Punk shirt with his face cut out of the shirt. Carlito basically said that he cut the face out because he was out of toilet paper. It was done in Louisville because Punk is either based there or was based there. Also, Punk never came out to confront him as they're on different touring brands, so they're not building any angle. It's said to be a receipt over some bad blood the two have regarding something to with WWE Diva Maria Kanellis. Punk at one time (not anymore) dated Maria and Carlito supposedly hit on her openly backstage right in front of CM Punk at times. Carlito was able to get away with the house show incident because he is currently in good standing with officials after he agreed to not leave the company back in December. Carlito was promised that he'd be used better if he decided against leaving. His standing also explains Carlito landing a spot in the Money in the Bank match. Punk has some detractors backstage, so Carlito was able to get away with doing this even though it was quite unprofessional of him to air out some dirty laundry when they're not building an angle off of it.
http://www.pro-wrestling.com/displaynews.php?area=1&sid=884

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Well I dunno who likes who now because I mean that was a good match and Punk got a good win off of it. Also, do they purposely tell Regal to say Umaga's name wrong and to throw an "n" in there? Seriously, why does he say that? Is it that impossible to say it correctly? It's the same thing when he says Triple "Haitch". What the hell is "haitch"?

[cougarjake13]

Well I dunno who likes who now because I mean that was a good match and Punk got a good win off of it. Also, do they purposely tell Regal to say Umaga's name wrong and to throw an "n" in there? Seriously, why does he say that? Is it that impossible to say it correctly? It's the same thing when he says Triple "Haitch". What the hell is "haitch"?

i think its just aprt of his gimmick

he does it with other wrestlers as well

[ToddEVF]

- Are CM Punk and Carlito going really stiff on each other or is it just me?

It was a good match and as I watched it all I was thinking was "wow this is a stiff fest. maybe they will actually make a program between the two"

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Flair splashed Vince through a friggin table! Holy Ouch! That was awesome. Also, Candice actually can wrestle and Santino is hilarious as usual.

[MagillaGorillaz]

Kim Kardashian is the host of Wrestlemania? Have they ever had a "host" of Wrestlemania.

[ToddEVF]

I loved that smug Triple Haitch moment. "I'm rooting for you." I think he has finally won me over.

[Fallon]

Cena/Orton vs. Sunday Night Heat sucks balls.

[ToddEVF]

Cena/Orton vs. Sunday Night Heat sucks balls.

I was thinking of it more as a Tag Team Slobberknocker Mode. . . linger longer

[commish13]

Flair splashed Vince through a friggin table! Holy Ouch! That was awesome. Also, Candice actually can wrestle and Santino is hilarious as usual.

Did you watch the match? She blew every spot except for the tip up inverted X factor dealie and her finish. And she hurt her arm. She was beginning to look good before she got hurt in the 2/3 falls match, but it looks like she's completely devolved back to how she was before she won the title.

[ScottFromGA]

wow....I'm surprised there isn't more mention of the McMahon/Flair match last night.


isn't it sad that these 2 old fuckers can put on a better show than any of their talent? They had the crowd behind them and pretty much pushed Flair's retirement angle further, which is something they've failed to do with the other wrestlers trying to "end his career".

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Commish, perhaps that was the only spot I paid attention to because most of the focus was on Santino and his awesome lines...and Candice's boobies.

[ToddEVF]

They had the crowd behind them and pretty much pushed Flair's retirement angle further, which is something they've failed to do with the other wrestlers trying to "end his career".

Well it only makes sense to have McMahon "do the job himself".

With that said I would not be surprised if Flair goes over at Mania and then loses the next night on raw in a cage match against a pissed off McMahon

[cougarjake13]

Well it only makes sense to have McMahon "do the job himself".

With that said I would not be surprised if Flair goes over at Mania and then loses the next night on raw in a cage match against a pissed off McMahon

i can see that happening

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I would rather see Flair win and then bow out gracefully at Mania.

[ToddEVF]

I would rather see Flair win and then bow out gracefully at Mania.

But that goes against the whole "I will never retire" remark Flair made.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Did you watch the match? She blew every spot except for the tip up inverted X factor dealie and her finish. And she hurt her arm. She was beginning to look good before she got hurt in the 2/3 falls match, but it looks like she's completely devolved back to how she was before she won the title.

Dude, she's a chick who's career is based on her looks and she almost ended up a quadrapelegic. You cannot fucking blame her for being gunshy.

[ToddEVF]

Dude, she's a chick who's career is based on her looks and she almost ended up a quadrapelegic. You cannot fucking blame her for being gunshy.

there is work going around that Candice aggravated that injury she had and will "fight through the pain" to work wrestlemania

[commish13]

Dude, she's a chick who's career is based on her looks and she almost ended up a quadrapelegic. You cannot fucking blame her for being gunshy.

I wouldn't say she's afraid. She's just not good. But if she is afraid, then she shouldn't be wrestling. It's that simple. There's no excuse for that. So yeah, I can blame her for it.

[MagillaGorillaz]

Wow. i haven't seen Raw yet from last night cause I was at work. But it must have sucked. The last one before Mania and no new posts.

[ScottFromGA]

Well it only makes sense to have McMahon "do the job himself".

With that said I would not be surprised if Flair goes over at Mania and then loses the next night on raw in a cage match against a pissed off McMahon

well...thats not my point...its sad cause he actually has to do it himself than put over a wrestler that SHOULD be the one doing it.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Fallon RFW thread, just a pleasant reminder

[ponelas park townie]

What's gonna be this year's WTF WrestleMania moment?

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[SpicyMcHaggis]

A couple of things I'm looking for here tonight...

- CM Punk's follow up to winning MITB
- The post-Wrestlemania debut of a new star
- A retirement ceremony for Flair
- Announcement of draft lottery

[ponelas park townie]

Wrestling News World has learned that there are plans for a Ric Flair retirement ceremony on tonight's edition of Raw.

JJ Dillon and Tully Blanchard are backstage and since Arn Anderson and Barry Windham work as road agents for WWE, it is likely we will see a reunion of the original Four Horsemen tonight.

"What a goof! I almost forgot the 4th Horseman! RIC FLAIR! GET ON DOWN HERE!"

[SpicyMcHaggis]

From TNAwrestlingnews.com:
Robbie McAllister, who attended TNA this past week, was told that there was no need for him to fly back to Orlando to attend tonight's Raw taping at the Amway Arena.

[cougarjake13]

From TNAwrestlingnews.com:

being low on the totem pole of talent is not a good thing

he'll be on the other side of the fence soon in TNA

[Tenbatsuzen]

Vince to fans at WM last night:

"YOU'RE ON FIRRRRRRRRRREEEEE!"

[epo]

Wow. Orton vs. JBL....an asshole vs. asshole feud?

[Chimee]

And now Matt Hardy comes out of nowhere.

What a confusing mess to start RAW off.

[Gmann]

Yeah!!!

Cryme Time!!!

[ToddEVF]

holy shit Cryme Time is back!?!

guess they needed tag teams for the new SvR 09, which is based around tag team wrestling. Good to see them back.

maybe now the tag team division won't go the same way as the Cruiserweight title.

[ToddEVF]

what other surprises will we see?

Ron Killings or Chris Harris debut?

I hear we will see a original Four Horsemen reunion tonight as Tully Blanchard and JJ Dillion were sited that the venue, while "Double A" Arn Anderson and Barry Windham are road agents. It would make sense, and a lot of dirt sheets are reporting that as a huge possibility.

No word on the debuts though. . .

[Chimee]

And now we get a Shawn Michaels depression storyline.

[ToddEVF]

And now we get a Shawn Michaels depression storyline.

there has been one things that has bothered me about Michaels. . .

SINCE WHEN HAS HE BEEN CALLED MR. WRESTLEMANIA?

I swear it had to of been a new thing from this year. Because its not like he has a undefeated wrestlemania streak or has appeared at every since Wrestlemania since his debut in the WWE. Was he voted Mr. Wrestlemania? Because I can guaren-damn-tee I didn't vote for him.

[ToddEVF]

Another tag match?

this has to be some kind of record.

[Chimee]

I love how they're moving past the fact that Kendrick walked out on London so that, I guess, they can try to rebuild the tag division.

[ToddEVF]

I guess, they can try to rebuild the tag division.

Well thats until the draft, when they split most of the teams up like the first draft did

[ToddEVF]

yet another surprise. . .

Santino having a late match on the 2nd hour of Raw.

[johnniehardrock]

Was it me or did Dusty sound just like The Midnight Rider?

[Gmann]

Wow you caught that too ?

I thought it was just me.

[ToddEVF]

Was it me or did Dusty sound just like The Midnight Rider?

but. . . but. . . but. . . It can't be

he doesn't look like the midnight rider and last time it was Danny Doring. . .

edit: On a serious note: I did want to see Ric Flair last match be against "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes. But no, instead we got the new emo Shawn Michaels

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Jesus, David Flair is a freaking blimp.

[Kevin]

Jesus, David Flair is a freaking blimp.

To think, he can say that he fucked Stacy Keibler in her very prime.

[The_Showstopper]

That was an amazing amazing ending to raw. Thank you Ric indeed.

[ponelas park townie]

Watching Raw, I remembered how much I love the Horsemen theme music. I'm suprised Big Show came out with the rest of the guys and didn't get his own entrance, like Jericho did.

[Heather 8]

That was an amazing amazing ending to raw. Thank you Ric indeed.

DVR cut off just as The Emo Kid was coming out, what happened afterwards?

[The_Showstopper]

DVR cut off just as The Emo Kid was coming out, what happened afterwards?

Not sure who your refering to as Emo kid but im gona guess ur talking about hbk. After he came out HHH said he could go on and on so if there was anyone else who wanted to come out to do so and the entire WWE roster(all Brands, refs, agent, ETC) came out applauded, bowed to flair started a thank you flair chant and all.

After the show went off the air Ive read that Taker came out got in the ring and bowed down to flair then vince came out and raised flairs arms in the ring and all.

The whole thing was very classy and well done.

for those who may have missed it or want to see it again its on youtube.

Note, These are not my videos. dont want to take credit for something that isint mine.

Part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raIFxAoZtoY

Part 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN20FAhNScI

[Chimee]

I don't know if this was part of those other videos, but here's what happened when RAW went off the air:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07EoupiGjg

[cougarjake13]

what other surprises will we see?

Ron Killings or Chris Harris debut?

.


looks like harris is stil a part of tna

[ToddEVF]

looks like harris is stil a part of tna

how do you figure as he lost his first WWE match to Shelton on March 11th (it was a dark match so wasn't much of a debut). It seems like he is one of those guys who joins WWE only to be put in FCW for polishing.

[cougarjake13]

how do you figure as he lost his first WWE match to Shelton on March 11th (it was a dark match so wasn't much of a debut). It seems like he is one of those guys who joins WWE only to be put in FCW for polishing.

ahhh i was thinking of the other guy in the amw tag team who was part of tomko's team on thurs tna impact

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Yeah, that's James Storm.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, that's James Storm.

yeh theyve both been irrelevant since going solo

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Well Storm will be the 5th man in the War Games-esque Lethal Lockdown match at the Lockdwon PPV. Chris Harris will most likely end up on FCW for the time being until they do find a spot for him on the roster. He's got a good look and could probably be marketed well with the right gimmick. He's a good wrestler, too, so he's not just another big guy.

[cougarjake13]

Well Storm will be the 5th man in the War Games-esque Lethal Lockdown match at the Lockdwon PPV.


yeh thats why i thought it was harris and said he's still in the tna fold

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Is it just me or does everyone seem to be just phoning it in tonight on Raw?

[Gmann]

After Cryme Time was on, did anyone else think Lawler's line about them having tear gas shot into their house was ....oh I dunno...a little much ??

[ToddEVF]

Is it just me or does everyone seem to be just phoning it in tonight on Raw?

Yeah raw was pretty bad this week. JR I understood for phoning it in, but the rest of them. . . thats a different story.

After Cryme Time was on, did anyone else think Lawler's line about them having tear gas shot into their house was ....oh I dunno...a little much ??

yeah I hear ya, was a tad over the top

on an unrelated note, I was actually expecting Ron Killings to do a run in during the 2nd Hour Clusterfuck Main Event. It would have eliminated Cena from the title picture and given him *gasp* a new feud.

[ScottFromGA]

Watching Raw, I remembered how much I love the Horsemen theme music. I'm suprised Big Show came out with the rest of the guys and didn't get his own entrance, like Jericho did.

i said that same thing. He deserved it more than John Cena did.....

[TjM]

i said that same thing. He deserved it more than John Cena did.....


So you know how Flair feels about Cena? Maybe he was a mentor.

[oh_kee_pa]

Yeah raw was pretty bad this week. JR I understood for phoning it in, but the rest of them. . . thats a different story.



yeah I hear ya, was a tad over the top

.

i thought it was the funniest thing he has said in a while... I wish they would get a Heel announcer on there... its just too one sided

[ToddEVF]

i thought it was the funniest thing he has said in a while... I wish they would get a Heel announcer on there... its just too one sided

see that is exactly why I said it was a tad over the top. Now if it was Heel Jerry Lawler, then it would ave been acceptable.

i admit, i did laugh at it as well

[cougarjake13]

are we seeing the beginnings of a heel turn for batista ???

[Knowledged_one]

are we seeing the beginnings of a heel turn for batista ???

More importantly will anyone really care? I guess if they do then he will have a program with Shawn Micheals and mark my words

New champ at King of the Ring (or whatever the June PPV is) as Batista as heel beats the Undertaker for the title

[conman823]

on an unrelated note, I was actually expecting Ron Killings to do a run in during the 2nd Hour Clusterfuck Main Event. It would have eliminated Cena from the title picture and given him *gasp* a new feud.

So what you want John Cena out of the title picture? You didn't want to see the same main event again at the next PPV? You wanted something new and exciting? Well my friend you had just better start watching Law and Order re-runs, because you obviosly aren't WWE material any longer.

[cougarjake13]

So what you want John Cena out of the title picture? You didn't want to see the same main event again at the next PPV? You wanted something new and exciting? Well my friend you had just better start watching Law and Order re-runs, because you obviosly aren't WWE material any longer.

as i was watching orton and jbl vs triple h i was wondering wheres cena, whens he gonna come out, and how will he get in the title match

sure enough after the match i got my answer

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I know it wouldn't have sold much, but I was picturing that they would have gone Triple H vs Cena for a number one contender spot and then Orton vs JBL for the title, all taking place at Backlash.

[Chimee]

While they were all arguing about who was better than who, a little hope crept in that the title match would be an elimination match to truly show who the best wrestler was.

[conman823]

I was actually looking forward to a JBL Orton program. Neither is my favorite wrestler by far but a Heel vs Heel fued would have held my intrest.

And remember WWE is gonna be going more kid friendly......so when you guys have to explain to your 8 yr old what Playboy is and what Marias doing in it, thank Vince!!

[cougarjake13]

I was actually looking forward to a JBL Orton program. Neither is my favorite wrestler by far but a Heel vs Heel fued would have held my intrest.

And remember WWE is gonna be going more kid friendly......so when you guys have to explain to your 8 yr old what Playboy is and what Marias doing in it, thank Vince!!

i would also loved to see a jbl orton fued


so does orton keep it or will trips , cena, or jbl get the strap ???

im thinking its either orton keeping it or jbl getting it

[ToddEVF]

So what you want John Cena out of the title picture? You didn't want to see the same main event again at the next PPV? You wanted something new and exciting? Well my friend you had just better start watching Law and Order re-runs, because you obviosly aren't WWE material any longer.

you are so right, how could i be so naive?

I already watch Law and Order, and am enjoy TNA more as the weeks go on. I must be insane.

[Kevin]

you are so right, how could i be so naive?

I already watch Law and Order, and am enjoy TNA more as the weeks go on. I must be insane.

Stop it. TNA Is TERRIBLE

[conman823]

Nah TNA is not terrible. Give it a shot, I think its a far better "wrestling show" then WWE puts on. I TiVo both, and I'll tell you this.I FFWD through more of RAW then I do Impact. Give it a chance, although you might have to ignore the commentary.

TNA Knockout Div is the best thing going on that show.

Shark Boy jumps on the rope and chugs clamjuice.

And the Dudley's are great on the mic.

[Gmann]

Black Machismo makes me chuckle.

[cougarjake13]

Nah TNA is not terrible. Give it a shot, I think its a far better "wrestling show" then WWE puts on. I TiVo both, and I'll tell you this.I FFWD through more of RAW then I do Impact. Give it a chance, although you might have to ignore the commentary.

TNA Knockout Div is the best thing going on that show.

Shark Boy jumps on the rope and chugs clamjuice.

And the Dudley's are great on the mic.

Black Machismo makes me chuckle.

but see thats the prob right there

2 of their best shit is wwe retreads gimmicks

[Kevin]

Nah TNA is not terrible. Give it a shot, I think its a far better "wrestling show" then WWE puts on. I TiVo both, and I'll tell you this.I FFWD through more of RAW then I do Impact. Give it a chance, although you might have to ignore the commentary.

TNA Knockout Div is the best thing going on that show.

Shark Boy jumps on the rope and chugs clamjuice.

And the Dudley's are great on the mic.

Wrestling wise, i agree, but i cant take the WCWish gimmicks and Tenay and West.

[conman823]

2 of their best shit is wwe retreads gimmicks

Black Machismo is a good example of how too get someone over who was a good wrestler but didn't have the charisma just to be himself. Plus us old timers enjoy the old angle references. ("Snake man is that you?")

Dudleys weren't allowed to be themselves on WWE, they were handed a script and told too stick to it. On TNA it seems they are given free reign with the MIC as any good wrestler should be. WWE Dudleys had great matches but were killed by the shtty writing, this is the best they have been since ECW.

[ToddEVF]

Wrestling wise, i agree, but i cant take the WCWish gimmicks and Tenay and West.

Tenay and West are a bit much. I can barely tolerate them.

As for the WCWish Gimmicks. . .

Its hard to say, as I doesn't bother me as much. sure some of their guys need new gimmicks (or a gimmick at all). But the same can be said about WWE.

Wrestling-wise, TNA is a good product. Thats the only thing Russo hasn't been able to taint.

[Mike Kingston]

The problem with TNA is that they don't do anything really well.

Wrestling-wise they can't touch ROH and storyline wise/spectacle they fall short against the E (and its not the like WWE sets the bar high for great booking).

The fact that they took what was once my wrestling dream match (Joe vs. Angle) and made me not care about it speaks volumes about their booking. I once drove two and a half hours to New Jersey to see the MCMG vs. LAX on a JAPW show but I probably wouldn't watch it for free on Impact...

And the Dudleys with a live mic are phenomenal at getting a crowd to hate them.

[Chimee]

I once drove two and a half hours to New Jersey to see the MCMG vs. LAX on a JAPW show but I probably wouldn't watch it for free on Impact...

Is that because the match would be less than 2 minutes long and at the end they all get destroyed by Blackdust and that other guy?

[cougarjake13]

dont know bout anyone else but im digging the hbk/batista fued

[Kevin]

I was gunna say, didnt take long for Flair to get back to TV.. Looks like Y2J Is turning Heel.

[foodcourtdruide]

This is what Jericho does best. He's unconventional. Flair music plays, he walks out really quickly without posing and cuts a killer promo. No one else does that.

The superkick was predictable, but this is a great storyline so far.

[cougarjake13]

So Hbk Is Gonna Have 2 Fueds Going ???

Sweet

[cougarjake13]

looks like next week is gonna be a king of the ring

[CruelCircus]

Looks like it might be real: :ohmy:

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A smackdown among presidential candidates?

Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain will appear on World Wrestling Entertainment's live "Monday Night Raw" (8-11 p.m. EST on cable's USA network) but instead of smacking each other down, they separately will deliver some wrestling-themed stumping in taped messages before Tuesday's Pennsylvania primary.

"Tonight, in honor of the WWE, you can call me Hillrod," Clinton says in her message. "This election is starting to feel a lot like 'King of the Ring.' The only difference? The last man standing may just be a woman."

Obama borrows The Rock's famous catchphrase during his appearance.

"To the special interests who've been setting the agenda in Washington for too long and to all the forces of division and distraction that has stopped us from making progress, for the American people, I've got one question: Do you smell what Barack is cooking?" Obama says before flashing a smile.

McCain, meanwhile, looked to Hulkamania for inspiration for his message.

"Looks like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama want to celebrate their differences in the ring," McCain says. "Well, that's fine with me, but let me tell you: If you want to be the man, you have to beat the man. Come November, it'll be game over. And whatcha gonna do when John McCain and all his McCainiacs run wild on you?"

The candidate appearances will be used to promote "Smackdown Your Vote!" - the WWE's voter registration drive.

[cougarjake13]

Looks like it might be real: :ohmy:

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A smackdown among presidential candidates?

Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain will appear on World Wrestling Entertainment's live "Monday Night Raw" (8-11 p.m. EST on cable's USA network) but instead of smacking each other down, they separately will deliver some wrestling-themed stumping in taped messages before Tuesday's Pennsylvania primary.

"Tonight, in honor of the WWE, you can call me Hillrod," Clinton says in her message. "This election is starting to feel a lot like 'King of the Ring.' The only difference? The last man standing may just be a woman."

Obama borrows The Rock's famous catchphrase during his appearance.

"To the special interests who've been setting the agenda in Washington for too long and to all the forces of division and distraction that has stopped us from making progress, for the American people, I've got one question: Do you smell what Barack is cooking?" Obama says before flashing a smile.

McCain, meanwhile, looked to Hulkamania for inspiration for his message.

"Looks like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama want to celebrate their differences in the ring," McCain says. "Well, that's fine with me, but let me tell you: If you want to be the man, you have to beat the man. Come November, it'll be game over. And whatcha gonna do when John McCain and all his McCainiacs run wild on you?"

The candidate appearances will be used to promote "Smackdown Your Vote!" - the WWE's voter registration drive.


thats a hybrid hogan flair there

[Kevin]

Hill Rod??

[ToddEVF]

Hill Rod??

eck!!!! that was sickening and she said that "Randy Orton was safe for now"? It seriously made me want to puke. But I will give her one thing, she does have the same level of charisma that Orton has.

[Chimee]

Could've used more ACK ACK ACK.

[Mongy]

Orton is the most talented second generation wrestler on the roster right now, and by god he has been a great dickhead champion. I would rather have JBL as champion but the way they are booking him now is decent the punt of death is just awesome. Also Regal vs. Jericho please.

[Chimee]

Third generation.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So far all the matches (albeit short) in this KOTR tournament have been stellar.

[Kevin]

I didnt think anyone could have topped Hill-Rod.. But McCain did it.

[Hosp]

The presidential candidates were sickening. All of them had dated references and were completely pandering.

The one thing I'll give McCain credit for is at least at the end he made it more about just being involved and "The way to get your ticket to the cage match in November is to vote". I see the Smackdown your Vote campaign must be making an impact.

[ToddEVF]

they put Regal over clean!?! WOW

It reminded me of the Regal of old, and of course I marked out when he hit the Regal Stretch.

The KOTR matches were short, but quite satisfying. I say that because I didn't see the opening round. And as for the finals, I'm shocked Punk was not subjected to any underhanded tactics

[ScottFromGA]

glad to see that they had really great matches versus that abortion of matches from last week.

I know I counted 10 slip ups during matches that were completely noticeable last week.


great RAW! KOTR was a success!

[King Imp]

Wow, surprised people actually liked that KOTR. I actually thought it was garbage and a waste of time.

The matches in the top bracket (Jericho vs MVP, Punk vs Hardy, & Punk vs Jericho) were great, but the bottom bracket was a joke and a waste of time. Then to have Regal win who isn't even a full time wrestler made no sense to me. They have all these people on the roster and they decide to put in Khali, Finlay, Regal and Hornswoggle? They had a chance to bring back the KOTR in a big way and they completely blew it.

[Freitag]

Apparently, Obama used a Rock-themed catchphrase which I've been saying he should be using for some time now. However, I think Dwayne is a GOP member, which would be awkward - but what an in-ring confrontation.

[Chimee]

The King of the Ring would have been perfect if they got rid of Khali and Hornswoggle and replaced them with guys like Shelton Benjamin and Mr. Kennedy leading up to King Kennedy to finally give him that push that he has been so close to for so long.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I liked watching the King of the Midcard

[Knowledged_one]

Black Machismo is a good example of how too get someone over who was a good wrestler but didn't have the charisma just to be himself. Plus us old timers enjoy the old angle references. ("Snake man is that you?")

Dudleys weren't allowed to be themselves on WWE, they were handed a script and told too stick to it. On TNA it seems they are given free reign with the MIC as any good wrestler should be. WWE Dudleys had great matches but were killed by the shtty writing, this is the best they have been since ECW.

I tell you what the summer of the Dudleys vs. Edge and Christian vs The Hardys which was i think Summer of 2000 or was it Summer of 1999 was the best the WWF tag team division had seen in a while and will never see again

[cougarjake13]

The King of the Ring would have been perfect if they got rid of Khali and Hornswoggle and replaced them with guys like Shelton Benjamin and Mr. Kennedy leading up to King Kennedy to finally give him that push that he has been so close to for so long.

when they announced kotr but not who's in it i was thinking this exact scenario


whats the point of a king regal esp since he's gm, unless they plan on regal no longer being gm

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm pretty sure that's what's going to happen. The man deserves to be fighting for the world title. Maybe some writer thought it would be cool to have a King in charge of a brand instead of a GM.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Cool to see Mr. Kennedy come back as a face.

[Kevin]

Cool to see Mr. Kennedy come back as a face.

Yep, looks like he lost some weight too. WWE finally smartened up.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Its good to see Regal Rasslin, he is good in the ring and can draw heat

[Kevin]

Hey Hippos, those Pittsburgh Penguins are sure looking great this series aren't they? I am sure you think the Rangers have no shot.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Hey Hippos, those Pittsburgh Penguins are sure looking great this series aren't they? I am sure you think the Rangers have no shot.


the Rangers are playing, I thought they were golfing

the Rangers will sure be golfing come Sunday

[Mike Rotch]

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/Torch_Feedback_17/article_25445.shtml

Check out the first review.

[Dougie Brootal]

so was mickie james on last nite or what?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

so was mickie james on last nite or what?

she is the champ

and got the pin fall in the 12 diva rematch from Backlash


she is getting Ashley's title push, because Ashley gets hurt too much

Edit: She also begged for douggrasso to rescue her

[Dougie Brootal]

she is the champ

and got the pin fall in the 12 diva rematch from Backlash


she is getting Ashley's title push, because Ashley gets hurt too much

Edit: She also begged for douggrasso to rescue her

hahaha thanks dude! someone should alert me everytime shes on so i can change to raw, its so unwatchable now.

[King Imp]

she is the champ

and got the pin fall in the 12 diva rematch from Backlash

Did they screw up the match at Backlash that they really needed to put it on again and have it end so quickly? 3 from the face team and 2 from the heel team didn't even get in the match.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Did they screw up the match at Backlash that they really needed to put it on again and have it end so quickly? 3 from the face team and 2 from the heel team didn't even get in the match.

meh to Raw

but nothing else is on

[MagillaGorillaz]

I am still trying to figure out why Cherry was on the face team. Aren't Deuce and Domino heels?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I am still trying to figure out why Cherry was on the face team. Aren't Deuce and Domino heels?

they did an angle on wwe.com ( or that silly www. mobile) , where D & D abused Cherry and said she was the reason they were losing

D & D are supposed to get Maryse ( French Canadian Broad) as their heel manager


why I know this , I am an interwebs addict

[ScottFromGA]

Kennedy and Regal is a GREAT fued. Those two work really well off of each other and that should be the showcase fued on RAW.

Plus, did anyone see how stiff it went when Regal bipped Kennedy in the mouth? Anyone that thinKs wrestling is completely fake should see that punch in HD. Kennedy rolled out of the ring, and got back in with fist flying. It looked as real as it could get, with me personally thinking that it went shoot.

[King Imp]

You know the show is in trouble when the women's match was the best thing going.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I like how calm and collected Regal is no matter who he's talking to, and it's not in like a comatose way but a very evil style. He's more than due a main event push.

[ScottFromGA]

im still big on a Kennedy/Regal fued. Thats more interesting than Orton/HHH.

[King Imp]

I guess I'm in the minority here as I don't get the Regal hype. He's got some moves, I'll give him that, but he moves around the ring with the fluidity of a female wrestler (slow and methodical). He just bores me.

[Knowledged_one]

I loved Regal when he was with WCW and thought they didnt use him right in WWF when he came over now they are and i couldnt be happier

European Uppercut FTW

[MagillaGorillaz]

Regal is a real man's man.

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[Mike Kingston]

I loved Regal when he was with WCW and thought they didnt use him right in WWF when he came over now they are and i couldnt be happier

European Uppercut FTW

A serious Regal/HHH feud would be one of the few things that the E could offer that I would still pay to see. Although, I'd prefer it if the roles were reversed.

[conman823]

I guess I'm in the minority here as I don't get the Regal hype. He's got some moves, I'll give him that, but he moves around the ring with the fluidity of a female wrestler (slow and methodical). He just bores me.

The man is a great worker. I've been watching him since old school WCW days. His style is an older technical style that most people used to todays "technical" style wouldn't be used to. He's not that old, but still wrestles in the old style, which I love. The guy was long overdue for a push.

Oh and he has the greatest heel music in the last 10 years, and it says "Born Naughty" in his titantron.....how can you not love that.

[Knowledged_one]

Plus didnt he get drunk on a flight and piss on a flight attendant

[conman823]

Plus didnt he get drunk on a flight and piss on a flight attendant

Didn't "The Nature Boy" also don his robe and twirl his Little Natch at a flight attendant?
LINGER LONGER!!
God the plan ride from Hell was great....better then the show these days.

[King Imp]

Speaking of drunk, I got a kick out of it when Piper told Santino he needed to get a designated driver.

[Heather 8]

Oh and he has the greatest heel music in the last 10 years, and it says "Born Naughty" in his titantron.....how can you not love that.


Does he still call people "sunshine?" Loved when he did that.

[conman823]

Does he still call people "sunshine?" Loved when he did that.

Yes he does. I'd say most underrated heel in the business.

[Phil_Nubbs]

I've always loved STEVE Regal. However, Regal's new super-heel role is Vincent McMahon with a British accent.

[conman823]

I've always loved STEVE Regal. However, Regal's new super-heel role is Vincent McMahon with a British accent.

And heel Vince was "Easy E" Eric Bishcoff with a Nicer Suit.

[Knowledged_one]

really cool to see the million dollar man

[Reephdweller]

really cool to see the million dollar man

sure was

[ralphbxny]

How come Heather didnt tell us this was an extra special Raw!!!???!!!??!?!?


Is she having lil 8??

[Reephdweller]

She's slippin!

[Freitag]

One of the few likable things about Orton was his theme music.

Now that the Mercy Drive is gone, there's nothing redeeming about him now.

On the flipside, Cena's had two of the best themes ever. And HHH always has quality music.

[Knowledged_one]

If Cenas music when it hits doesnt get you pumped up i think you might be anti-american

as much as i think he's kinda meh, i get pumped when that music hits

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Well, here's the reason Regal got "Fired":

World Wrestling Entertainment® Suspends Performer

STAMFORD, Conn., May 20, 2008 - In accordance with its Substance Abuse and Drug Testing Policy, WWE® has suspended Darren Matthews (William Regal) for 60 days for his second violation of the company’s policy.

Also, does anyone else think that DiBiase's appearance might have started the set up for his son's debut?

[Marist Mike]

Also, does anyone else think that DiBiase's appearance might have started the set up for his son's debut?

I personally was hoping it'd mean him as GM, but I think that's going to be Teddy Long now.

[Knowledged_one]

DiBiasie would be great as a heel announcer

And think about it Dibiasie as GM and Virgil could be brought back as the GM bodyguard

[SpicyMcHaggis]

From what I've read, he's there to start promoting his book, but DiBiase as GM would be amazing.

[oh_kee_pa]

i wish Kennedy would start up a new Triple Threat

or i take that back... i just wish someone would start a stable... Wrestling is 10x better when there is a stable

[SpicyMcHaggis]

But WWE is more concerned about making singles stars, not teams. So it won't happen anytime soon.

[Chimee]

Don't forget the stable of Edge and those other guys.

[Marist Mike]

i just wish someone would start a stable... Wrestling is 10x better when there is a stable


Agreed. Stables, and even tag teams, are so important when it comes to wrestling. So many people have had their careers started through stables, or even tag teams. Hunter had DX, Rock had Nation, the Horsemen got in a lot of guys trying to come up, like Benoit and Malenko, and Orton and Batista had Evolution.

Then when it comes to tag teams, Shawn had Marty Jannetty, Bret was with Anvil, and let's not forget Steve Austin and Brian Pillman. It really gives the booker and promoter a chance to see if this person has the skill capable of succeeding in a singles career, and whether or not they are worthy of pushes. Tag teams also help the mid-card a great deal.

[Knowledged_one]

Stables are just a great way to get guys heat who suck on the mic

Thats why Batista was good in Evolution, Malenko and Benoit were good as horseman

and the rock was a great leader for the Nation

[oh_kee_pa]

Stables are just a great way to get guys heat who suck on the mic

Thats why Batista was good in Evolution, Malenko and Benoit were good as horseman

and the rock was a great leader for the Nation

agree except for the Rock, obviously...

so what...
Kennedy would be a great leader for a stable and it would get him into the main even picture...

[Chimee]

The New Breed angle on ECW could have been a great stable to elevate some of the younger guys. Now they have guys like Elijah Burke who should be at least in the ECW title picture that are not even on the show for weeks at a time.

[Knowledged_one]

agree except for the Rock, obviously...

so what...
Kennedy would be a great leader for a stable and it would get him into the main even picture...

no no no you misunderstood what i meant, the Rock was great in the Nation because the guys in that stable D-Lo, Kama Mustafa and the others sucked on the stick and having the rock gave them credibility as he was the mouthpiece of the group

[Chimee]

Vince must really be desperate for ratings, every week on RAW they'll be giving away money until they give away $1 million.

[midwestjeff]

Vince must really be desperate for ratings, every week on RAW they'll be giving away money until they give away $1 million.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:tm7-mAxg5GCh9M:http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/bergmanrocks/growingup/MillionDollarMan.jpg
All you have to do is bounce this ball ten times....

[cougarjake13]

Vince must really be desperate for ratings, every week on RAW they'll be giving away money until they give away $1 million.

gay

[Chimee]

Vince must really be desperate for ratings, every week on RAW they'll be giving away money until they give away $1 million.

or it's a million a week.

The wording was a little goofy.

[cougarjake13]

or it's a million a week.

The wording was a little goofy.

yeh it almost sounded like he said every week til it reaches a million total

[Fallon]

At least fans are more deserving than diva contests.

[King Imp]

All entered in the contest, as if I'd even win. Gotta love how all it takes is the mention of money for people to cheer when Vince is talking.

Very glad to see Mickie is back. Not back in the sense that she was ever gone, but recently (like in the past month or so) she's been looking a little smaller in a certain area than usual. Was starting to think she did the unthinkable and got a reduction. Glad to see she was back and in all her bouncy glory tonight.

[Kevin]

At least fans are more deserving than diva contests.

QFT

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm curious as to see who will be Ted Jr's partner. Does anyone else see Cody Rhodes turning on Hardcore and teaming up with DiBiase because "everyone's got a price"?

[Chimee]

I think that was the set up for the new stable. DiBiase will get another younger guy for his partner, then Rhodes will turn on Holly in the match.

[King Imp]

I'll put the million that I won't be winning from Vince on the mystery partner being DH Smith. Then Cody turns on Holly and you have the sons of former wrestlers forming their stable. Maybe Natalya will join as well.

[Chimee]

I actually entered the $1 million thing. Now I feel like a child hoping to get the free sticker for registering.

[ScottFromGA]

I heard something of a New Hart Foundation......but didn't that get nixed or something?


I think it would be pretty sweet if they brought Bret back in some fashion...as if that would ever happen.


by the way, Million Dollars....fucking gay.

[Knowledged_one]

I'll put the million that I won't be winning from Vince on the mystery partner being DH Smith. Then Cody turns on Holly and you have the sons of former wrestlers forming their stable. Maybe Natalya will join as well.

Bring in Randy Orton to be the mouthpiece of the group and you have instant credibility of a top shelf talent

[Chimee]

I heard something of a New Hart Foundation......but didn't that get nixed or something?


I think it would be pretty sweet if they brought Bret back in some fashion...as if that would ever happen.


by the way, Million Dollars....fucking gay.

They were about to get a spot on one of the main shows, but Teddy Hart got himself fired instead Harry Smith is jobbing on Heat and Natalie Neidhart follows Victoria around.

[cougarjake13]

I'm curious as to see who will be Ted Jr's partner. Does anyone else see Cody Rhodes turning on Hardcore and teaming up with DiBiase because "everyone's got a price"?

I think that was the set up for the new stable. DiBiase will get another younger guy for his partner, then Rhodes will turn on Holly in the match.

yeh thats what i was thinking

[cougarjake13]

Bring in Randy Orton to be the mouthpiece of the group and you have instant credibility of a top shelf talent

and it would give him something to do while hes hurt

[conman823]

I think that was the set up for the new stable. DiBiase will get another younger guy for his partner, then Rhodes will turn on Holly in the match.

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[conman823]

Also Monday I watched about 12% of RAW. Which is 12% more then the last 6 weeks.

Still

Awful

[Chimee]

Password for winning Vince's money is WWE Universe

[Heather 8]

Ha! McMahon just got RickRolled!

And again!

[MagillaGorillaz]

Ha! McMahon just got RickRolled!

And again!

He had no idea. You know someone in the back is letting him on it.

[Heather 8]

Dialing phone numbers = RIVETING!

I shouldn't complain, it's saving us from a craptacular match.

[Chimee]

I feel like such a fanboy douche for hoping I might win something.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Same here. Wouldn't mind some of that money.