Monday Night RAW Discussion

[Bossanova]

At least he kept as good a shape as HBK

[King Hippos Bandaid]

ha ha Jannety is dressed like he belongs on Christopher St

[ralphbxny]

Janetty looks cute in his rain bow jacket!

[Bossanova]

ha ha Jannety is dressed like he belongs on Christopher St

He just needs Y2J's silver vest

[ralphbxny]

The socks and the pink arm band make the whole thing!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

He just needs Y2J's silver vest

true, from 3/4 a fag to a full blown fagola

[BoondockSaint]

Why is this being dragged out?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

hears pin drop, Rob Conway gets more of a pop

[Bossanova]

Why is this being dragged out?

So they can skip the best superstar of Raw bit

[ralphbxny]

This stinks...I hope the last 10 min save the last 50 min!

[Bossanova]

hears pin drop, Rob Conway gets more of a pop

:lol::lol::lol:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

maybe Katie Vick can return

[Chimee]

Why does JR keep saying how quick Jannety is? Just because it's a 15 year anniversary doesn't mean that it's 15 years ago.

[ralphbxny]

Im dehydrated from all these bathroom breaks!

[Dougie Brootal]

shawn runs like a fat girl.

[BoondockSaint]

Apparently Shawn Michaels came straight from Silera's party.

[DiabloSammich]

Let's merge this thread with "I can't stop throwing up."

[King Hippos Bandaid]

very funny, they must be short on time, they are still fighting when Triple H comes down, time for the DX bit

[ralphbxny]

Bring out Xpac and Road Dogg!!

[Bossanova]

They have taken the crowd completely out of the show in the most important hour. So sad

[King Hippos Bandaid]

:crosses fingers:

hopefully La Resistance vs Cryme Tyme will precede Mcmahons speeeh

[Bossanova]

:crosses fingers:

hopefully La Resistance vs Cryme Tyme will precede Mcmahons speeeh

and maybe the recoupling of Billy and Chuck

[Bossanova]

I have never been that fucking high

[King Hippos Bandaid]

and maybe the recoupling of Billy and Chuck


even better

or best yet the Emergency Broadcast Signal will be turn on so we can be spared an ending which will clearly disappoint

[King Hippos Bandaid]

its Vince, I should write for them

edit: I rule

[Bossanova]

Meat

[Chimee]

Is it?

[ralphbxny]

I knew he would nominate himself!

[DiabloSammich]

Good call Hippo.

The 100 bucks is coming back your way.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Good call Hippo.

The 100 bucks is coming back your way.



there goes socko

Im 2 for 2

Undertaker

2 for 3

[Dougie Brootal]

I have never been that fucking high

i have :flush:

[Bossanova]

Well Taker had to come out

[Bossanova]

Does Rock show up via video

[BoondockSaint]

Do you think McMahon is laying there thinking, "Get to the ring already you fucking idiot!"

[King Hippos Bandaid]

if only the listening threads were as funny as this 3 hour Raw thread

Al Dukes wouldn't bitch about it

[Dougie Brootal]

SOMEBODY is missing a neck tattoo!

[Bossanova]

Seriously. "We are fucking short on time ass hat"

[ralphbxny]

still in great shape..undertaker rules!

[ralphbxny]

I will say this...Raw was always great when Vinnie Mac was taking a beating and Shano was doing his crazy ring stunts!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

very nice, the ole diappearing act, they knew the time needed to be cut

austin needs his stunner and beer drinking time

[Bossanova]

The doctor of raising hell?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Que

in SAP

[ralphbxny]

What!

[DiabloSammich]

The "WHAT" thing ruined me for wrestling.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I say they also congratulate Spike TV

[Bossanova]

knocks over the beer. Just awful

[King Hippos Bandaid]

a stunner, a mundane way to end a mundane last hour on Raw

[ralphbxny]

Who saw that one coming?

[BoondockSaint]

Stunner? Who saw that coming?

[Bossanova]

a stunner, a mundane way to end a mundane last hour on Raw

so ..........ecck


I will say this though. Vince can take the stunner better than 2/3 of the WWE

[ralphbxny]

The Greatest Fans Of Raw Are In This Thread And Thats The Bottom Line!!

[Bossanova]

Haha

[ralphbxny]

Who saw that one coming?

Stunner? Who saw that coming?

we didnt!

[DiabloSammich]

How did he know I was in my chair watching color television.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dougie Brootal]

predictable ending but still a nice way to say thanks.

[Bossanova]

But how can all of these enemies drink beer together?

[BoondockSaint]

No Bret Hart? They had him listed on my guide. I wonder if McMahon screwed him over again. That would be hysterical.

[BoondockSaint]

William Regal with the Coke made me laugh.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

For a minute I thought I saw CM Punk take a beer. Guess he and Regal were the ones getting Coke's.

[Dougie Brootal]

and vince is a god damn saint to let them pour beer on him like that!

[ralphbxny]

Well boys it was a nice show! 7 out 10 for me.

[NickyL0885]

Vince getting beer poured on him, getting up and getting knocked out again was great. Austin, HHH and Hornswoggle all pouring beer on him. great ending though. wish i was there. prob all signing autographs and such with the fans. and DAMN Sunny looked good. haha.

[epo]

William Regal with the Coke made me laugh.

I did get a good chuckle out of that too.

[ralphbxny]

and vince is a god damn saint to let them pour beer on him like that!

Vince will do anything if it means the show is better!

[Kevin]

So is Rock now too good to make an appearance on a show that was responsible for making him what he is today?? That really disappointed me..


And who didn't see the Hogan Gladiator whore plug coming?? He will not do anything that does not benefit him..

[chubbyknuckles]

Lita looked f'n good and trish's tummy was fantastic, and then after that i faded in and out of watching.

[CruelCircus]

Also, is anyone else as happy as me to see Steve Blackman?

For whatever reason I always liked that guy.

You mean Master Po-man?

[CruelCircus]

My Tivo lied to me.

It told me that Bret Hart was going to be on, too.

Bastard.

[King Imp]

Really was pleasantly surprised at how good Sunny looked. Glad to see she got her life together. Now if she can just keep it that way.

Also glad to see that Lita didn't get shit on. Yeah, I know, she deserved it then, but it's time to move on from being pissed about a wrestler's personal life.

To me the biggest shock was definitely RVD. I never expected to see that return.

Really upset though at the lack of the Rock and Bret Hart. I honestly thought Neidhart would make it to the end of the battle royal with Gillberg eliminating him and Bret would come out and put Gillberg in the Sharpshooter.

So, is it really just bad writing or do they not have the talent to pull off the magic they once had? Watching Edge and Christian with their kazoos, Kurt Angle with the little cowboy hat, and the chemistry between Rock and Foley, it was sad to know this show was so hysterical at one point, but they lost it.

Overall, it wasn't a bad show. Much better than the crap they put on every week.

[Fallon]

I think I heard Fallon marking out for Blackman from here.

I totally was! He looks the exact same. I don't think Steve has aged.

[NickyL0885]

Lita and Trish looked good. They will come back eventually. Its inevitable. But i do wonder if the will re-sign sunny. I mean, sure, she cant wrestle but she be much better then jillian singing. yeesh. I was dissapointed with The Rock as well. I figured he'd come out or do something via satelitte. and i thought austin was gonna bring out Bret when he was saying who really was the best superstar. Woulda made sense. come out,, put vince in a sharpshooter.

[foodcourtdruide]

Really was pleasantly surprised at how good Sunny looked. Glad to see she got her life together. Now if she can just keep it that way.

Also glad to see that Lita didn't get shit on. Yeah, I know, she deserved it then, but it's time to move on from being pissed about a wrestler's personal life.

To me the biggest shock was definitely RVD. I never expected to see that return.

Really upset though at the lack of the Rock and Bret Hart. I honestly thought Neidhart would make it to the end of the battle royal with Gillberg eliminating him and Bret would come out and put Gillberg in the Sharpshooter.

So, is it really just bad writing or do they not have the talent to pull off the magic they once had? Watching Edge and Christian with their kazoos, Kurt Angle with the little cowboy hat, and the chemistry between Rock and Foley, it was sad to know this show was so hysterical at one point, but they lost it.

Overall, it wasn't a bad show. Much better than the crap they put on every week.

To be fair, I think Raw is getting better. The return of Jericho has been great and has made Randy Orton better. I really like Hardy getting a push and Kennedy is impressive.

[chubbyknuckles]

Really was pleasantly surprised at how good Sunny looked. Glad to see she got her life together. Now if she can just keep it that way.

Also glad to see that Lita didn't get shit on. Yeah, I know, she deserved it then, but it's time to move on from being pissed about a wrestler's personal life.

To me the biggest shock was definitely RVD. I never expected to see that return.

Really upset though at the lack of the Rock and Bret Hart. I honestly thought Neidhart would make it to the end of the battle royal with Gillberg eliminating him and Bret would come out and put Gillberg in the Sharpshooter.

So, is it really just bad writing or do they not have the talent to pull off the magic they once had? Watching Edge and Christian with their kazoos, Kurt Angle with the little cowboy hat, and the chemistry between Rock and Foley, it was sad to know this show was so hysterical at one point, but they lost it.

Overall, it wasn't a bad show. Much better than the crap they put on every week.


I haven't watched alot lately, but it's only because they lost me. I liked the old stuff where they teased shit and made a pay off and knew how to write a storyline(give or take some bad ones) But watching now you don't have any great storylines, I mean how many times can you bring marty jannety back to be the pre-fight hbk gimmick?!

[Freitag]

For the people who are maintaining that "Trish and Lita look great" - they've only been out of the WWE for less than a year, haven't they? Trish left at Survivor Series 06, right?

That being said, Trish still works on TV in Canada, so presumably she keeps in shape.

Sunny did look really good. She's obviously older, but you would have never known how big she got by her appearance. I think she looks like a really good looking soccer mom (without the kids).

Stephanie looked amazing. She lost all the baby weight.

RVD's pop was huge. Why did he leave WWE - was it a burnout situation like Jericho or something else?

Personally, I'd love to see a huge program between RVD and Jericho. RVD could come back in his heel "No Respect" persona.

Blackman is 44 years old. WOW. Fallon's right, the dude doesn't age.

I marked for everyone, but here are some questions:

1) I don't think DiBiase was ever a wrestler or a regular prescence on RAW. I think he was well out of the WWE by 93.

2) If the first Raw was on January 11, 1993, why have the 15th anniversary show a month early? I understand that the Armageddon wrapup, the Iraq show and then Best of Raw takes up the next three weeks, but what's going on the first two weeks of January that they couldn't do it then?

3) If Trish was there, she should have come out for the McMahon portrait session. There was a lot more kayfabe heat between Trish and Steph than there ever was between Melina and Steph. Plus, it was Vince's relationship with Trish that led to the classic O&A drops.

3a) I guess Linda was legitimately sick; I was thinking Vince's mention of his wife's illness was a kayfabe setup for something later on in the show.

4) Kevin: Don't blame Hogan entirely for plugging American Gladiators. It's an NBC show, which means that USA was hyping it up as part of corporate synergy. With the writer's strike, there's no place Hogan can really go to plug that'll hit male demographics, so he'll probably be on RAW again soon.

[ArecWithABigA]

What was your biggest mark out moment from the big show last night?

[Knowledged_one]

DiBiasie was part of the raw group with IRS that launched the 1-2-3 Kid and Razor Ramon to the top of the card. If you remember there was $10k put up by DiBiasie if the 1-2-3 Kid could win, well he moonsaulted Razor Ramon, then jetted with the money, this caused Million Dollar Man and IRS to beat up on Ramon about losing so at that years summerslam i believe there was a DiBiaise vs. Razor Ramon match and IRS vs. 1-2-3 kid match. After that then they were both pretty much gone

I used to love when DiBiasie would choke someone out put the $100 in their mouth and then IRS would take it back when he wasnt looking

[Freitag]

What was your biggest mark out moment from the big show last night?

RVD. Totally unexpected and you thought it was gonna be one of Santino's fakeouts.

[ArecWithABigA]

Has anyone brought up how lame the crowd was for the Mankind entrance?

[Kevin]

4) Kevin: Don't blame Hogan entirely for plugging American Gladiators. It's an NBC show, which means that USA was hyping it up as part of corporate synergy. With the writer's strike, there's no place Hogan can really go to plug that'll hit male demographics, so he'll probably be on RAW again soon.


Would he have shown up if he did not have anything to whore plug?? He would have asked Vince for a shit load of money, and Vince would have said fuck off (Which might have been the case with the Rock.) And he would be a bitch and not shown.. Hogan is a selfish dirt bag.. It bugs me to think i used to idolize him as a kid.

[Freitag]

Would he have shown up if he did not have anything to whore plug?? He would have asked Vince for a shit load of money, and Vince would have said fuck off (Which might have been the case with the Rock.) And he would be a bitch and not shown.. Hogan is a selfish dirt bag.. It bugs me to think i used to idolize him as a kid.

I think, honestly, that the divorce and Nick's legal problems may have a somewhat humbling effect on Hogan. He needs all the "free money" he can get right now, and if Vince asked him to show up to do a 1-night appearance for 20 grand, I'm sure he would have done it.

[Kevin]

I think, honestly, that the divorce and Nick's legal problems may have a somewhat humbling effect on Hogan. He needs all the "free money" he can get right now, and if Vince asked him to show up to do a 1-night appearance for 20 grand, I'm sure he would have done it.

assuming the divorce is actually real...

[King Hippos Bandaid]

assuming the divorce is actually real...

Hogan's Divorce proceedings are sponsored by American Gladiators coming to NBC in January

[King Imp]

Looks like this may be the reason behind no Bret Hart last night.

WWE's rocky relationship with Bret Hart has taken yet another bad turn. The two sides had been negotiating an agreement for the publishing rights to Bret Hart's autobiography in the United States. Those negotiations have fallen through and Bret will be shopping the book elsewhere.

According to Dave Meltzer, Bret had a verbal agreement saying that the company would not change one word. When he was given the contract to sign, the terms were completely different than what was previously agreed upon. WWE demanded final say on anything they found objectionable. Bret was told that 400 of the book's 533 pages would need to be changed, which was a deal breaker.

[Bossanova]

Would he have shown up if he did not have anything to whore plug?? He would have asked Vince for a shit load of money, and Vince would have said fuck off (Which might have been the case with the Rock.) And he would be a bitch and not shown.. Hogan is a selfish dirt bag.. It bugs me to think i used to idolize him as a kid.

Thats why I was a mark for Paul Orndorff after he turned on that self centered dick

[Kevin]

Thats why I was a mark for Paul Orndorff after he turned on that self centered dick

Now, if you would have used the same good judgment on sports teams.. You would have been gold!

[Bossanova]

Now, if you would have used the same good judgment on sports teams.. You would have been gold!

Hurtful words you prick

[conman823]

and i thought austin was gonna bring out Bret when he was saying who really was the best superstar. Woulda made sense. come out,, put vince in a sharpshooter.

Why would a guy who litterally gave his whole body announce a self centered cry baby as best RAW superstar. If Austin did that i would have lost complete respect for him.

The only Hart that should have been remebered is Owen, he was a bigger part of RAW total then his crying brother.

To be fair, I think Raw is getting better. The return of Jericho has been great and has made Randy Orton better. I really like Hardy getting a push and Kennedy is impressive.

Randy should go back to the Mid-Card where he belongs. Hardy always was a star, it just took them forever to realize it. And Kennedy should be in Ortons spot.

Has anyone brought up how lame the crowd was for the Mankind entrance?

thats because he's always on there anyway. At least it wasn't a dead as the Kennedy/ Jannetty match, my god that was awful.

Overall I think it should have had some more ol school clips. Vince and Austin are tied for #1RAW Star in my eyes, both give/gave so much for 15 years on screen.

Final Though of the night: What a fucking prick The Rock is.

[Kevin]

Does Orton looks like he is much skinnier to anyone else?? I especialy noticed it last night.. His arms look so much smaller.. I guess he is off the roids for a while..

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Does Orton looks like he is much skinnier to anyone else?? I especialy noticed it last night.. His arms look so much smaller.. I guess he is off the roids for a while..


as did HHH

Evolution HHH was making steroid omelets for breakfast

[Kevin]

as did HHH

Evolution HHH was making steroid omelets for breakfast

Now i am starving..

Hey hippo's, do we have any steroid Omelets in the back?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Now i am starving..

Hey hippo's, do we have any steroid Omelets in the back?


fresh out

MLB took the recipe

[Kevin]

fresh out

MLB took the recipe

Lateraled it to the NFL

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Lateraled it to the NFL

threw it to the WNBA

The WNBA is full of Steroids and ultra sweaty and fishy vags

[PhilDeez]

Don't know if someone else noticed this, but I was watching RAW tonight (yes I DVR it, can't watch on Mondays, and yes this makes me a fag) and picked out a peculiar afro headed boy in during the DX segment who looked alot like Sam from O&A. Anyone else see this, he was shown a couple of times.

[ralphbxny]

threw it to the WNBA

The WNBA is full of Steroids and ultra sweaty and fishy vags

MMMM FISHY VAG!!!

[Fallon]

Don't know if someone else noticed this, but I was watching RAW tonight (yes I DVR it, can't watch on Mondays, and yes this makes me a fag) and picked out a peculiar afro headed boy in during the DX segment who looked alot like Sam from O&A. Anyone else see this, he was shown a couple of times.

WWE sent him front row tix for the show.

I was at SD!/ECW tonight. No TV time for Fallon. :(

[PhilDeez]

WWE sent him front row tix for the show.

I was at SD!/ECW tonight. No TV time for Fallon. :(

I knew that, so I assumed it was him. It was quite the close up, on at least two occasions.

Can someone fill me in on what happened after Undertaker entered the ring - guess the show went late and I didn't account for that.

[Fallon]

I knew that, so I assumed it was him. It was quite the close up, on at least two occasions.

Can someone fill me in on what happened after Undertaker entered the ring - guess the show went late and I didn't account for that.

Taker chokeslammed Vince, Austin stunned Vince, then all the superstars came out and announced the fans are the greatest Raw superstars of all time.

[PhilDeez]

Taker chokeslammed Vince, Austin stunned Vince, then all the superstars came out and announced the fans are the greatest Raw superstars of all time.

How touching, thanks.

[Fallon]

Sam at RAW.
http://www.foundrymusic.com/pestnetwork/displayphoto.cfm/id/24152

[CruelCircus]

Has anyone brought up how lame the crowd was for the Mankind entrance?

I think it's cause they didn't use the Mankind music.

As was said, Foley's on a lot, and fans are used to the "Mick Foley" music. If they had brought back the old Mankind theme, I think people would've perked up.

[chubbyknuckles]

I caught the end of the show on monday, and heard that evolution got back together, and then saw michaels and hhh reunite, so whats the deal, hhh in both or what?

[Fallon]

I caught the end of the show on monday, and heard that evolution got back together, and then saw michaels and hhh reunite, so whats the deal, hhh in both or what?

Evolution was a one time deal.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Evolution was a one time deal.
to that to these guys

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/moviesetc/evolutionchart.jpg

[Tazz]

What was your biggest mark out moment from the big show last night?

After watching it on DVR last night, it was seeing myself in the opening crowd scan. Being there on Monday, it was Hogan...I admit it.

[Kevin]

After watching it on DVR last night, it was seeing myself in the opening crowd scan. Being there on Monday, it was Hogan...I admit it.

As much as i am down on the bastard.. I have to admit.. The song and him, still have a special pull on you..

[Kevin]

This shit made me cry.. very well done...


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[Tenbatsuzen]

This shit made me cry.. very well done...


I stopped at 37 seconds in. Sorry. Fail on a massive level, and just showing the massive social retardation of what wrestling fans are.

[Fallon]

I stopped at 37 seconds in. Sorry. Fail on a massive level, and just showing the massive social retardation of what wrestling fans are.

It's still real to Kevin dammit!!

[Gmann]

Is it bad I chuckled when I saw Crying Benoit ??

[Kevin]

Is it bad I chuckled when I saw Crying Benoit ??

I did too..


And Matty not feeling anythin.. Shocker..

[cougarjake13]

very awesomely done

[Bossanova]

First off, Matty is a cold heartless robot.

Secondly, I knew that goddam Benoit was coming and I tried not to, but I laughed so goddam hard

[Heather 8]

What's twisted is that, while watching, I thought "Wow, when did Scott Steiner die?" It took me a few seconds to register that he was next to Eddie Guerrero.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

What's twisted is that, while watching, I thought "Wow, when did Scott Steiner die?" It took me a few seconds to register that he was next to Eddie Guerrero.


his career died with WCW

[cougarjake13]

his career died with WCW

yeh pretty much

[Heather 8]

This Scott Steiner lives on in my heart:

http://www.areavoices.com/wrestling/images/thumbnail/steinerbrothers.jpg

Miss tiny mullet-haired Scott.

[Bossanova]

This Scott Steiner lives on in my heart:

http://www.areavoices.com/wrestling/images/thumbnail/steinerbrothers.jpg

Miss tiny mullet-haired Scott.

But where are his freaks?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I did too..


And Matty not feeling anythin.. Shocker..

First off, Matty is a cold heartless robot.

Secondly, I knew that goddam Benoit was coming and I tried not to, but I laughed so goddam hard

Hey guys?

No offense, but I really can't give credibility to a "tribute video" about wrestlers who died, especially when said wrestler 1) TOOK HIS OWN LIFE and 2) DID IT IN THE PROCESS OF KILLING TWO OTHER PEOPLE.

It's like the ROH mutants who say, "Yeah, what Benoit did was wrong but..." No. No buts. He killed two innocent people, one of them a child.

[ponelas park townie]

What's twisted is that, while watching, I thought "Wow, when did Scott Steiner die?" It took me a few seconds to register that he was next to Eddie Guerrero.

That was actually Perry Saturn there.

Here's an easy formula I use to help me remember who's who:

Pink fluffy hat: Saturn

Chainmail: Steiner

Once you add in Hollywood Hogan & present-day Billy Graham, it's gets pretty confusing, though.

[King Imp]

Oh yay, we get to hear again from someone who was completely undeserving of a main event status how he's a "wrestling God" over and over again. :thumbdown:

[Heather 8]

That was actually Perry Saturn there.

Here's an easy formula I use to help me remember who's who:

Pink fluffy hat: Saturn

Chainmail: Steiner




Oh, OK. I barely watched WCW, and I thought Steiner went through a weird femme phase at one point.

[cougarjake13]

just brought back jericho and now JBL is coming out of retirement

at first i was like why bring back jbl but if it means keeping cena out of the picture i'm all for it


http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/articles/5811806/bluewithoutjbl

[The Nature Boy]

Hey guys?

No offense, but I really can't give credibility to a "tribute video" about wrestlers who died, especially when said wrestler 1) TOOK HIS OWN LIFE and 2) DID IT IN THE PROCESS OF KILLING TWO OTHER PEOPLE.

It's like the ROH mutants who say, "Yeah, what Benoit did was wrong but..." No. No buts. He killed two innocent people, one of them a child.

I found this tribute rather poignant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9swapyH_uc

[NickyL0885]

Well, I think HHH either sold a injury or he really pulled his Quad yet again. Yeesh. Time to get a new finisher b/c thats how he hurt it. I feel bad for the guy. All that re-hab has to blow.

[cougarjake13]

Well, I think HHH either sold a injury or he really pulled his Quad yet again. Yeesh. Time to get a new finisher b/c thats how he hurt it. I feel bad for the guy. All that re-hab has to blow.

yeh it def looked like he fucked up his quad again

no mention yet on wwe.com about it though

[King Imp]

If he blew it out again, then I'd have to say "It's over Johnny!"

I can't possibly see him coming back after a 3rd major injury to the same area.

[epo]

I thought he sold an injury as the reason he couldn't cover Flair....working into the Flair retirement angle?

[Kevin]

I thought he sold an injury as the reason he couldn't cover Flair....working into the Flair retirement angle?

Yea, this happened on Sunday night.. WWE.com woulda had something by now.

[Bossanova]

No site is saying a thing about it. So, Im going to say a work

[Kevin]

No site is saying a thing about it. So, Im going to say a work

Thats what i said before... You
Read your modquote...

[Bossanova]

Thats what i said before... You
Read your modquote...

I hate you. I said no site sir, NO SITE

[Kevin]

I hate you. I said no site sir, NO SITE

WWE.com isn't a SITE?? you

Read Mod quote.

[ralphbxny]

Raw Roulette....very exciting!!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Santino's lines were very funny

esp the little people creep me out line

[PilotJeff]

I think JBL needs a treadmill... and a bra.

[ralphbxny]

Santino's lines were very funny

esp the little people creep me out line

I like Santino...he just stinks in the ring!

[ralphbxny]

There ya go Hippo...a little Foley for ya!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

There ya go Hippo...a little Foley for ya!


poor highlanders, i actually like them

[Dougie Brootal]

i dont know whats happening but you guys better have some pics of mickie james from tonight up by tommorrow morning or im gonna start a ''fuck this place'' thread.

[ralphbxny]

Wow !!! Jeff Hardy from the Top of the Cage. Great spot!

[Section 8]

Did anyone else notice the Oompa-Loompa that was Shawn Michaels tag partner?

Mr Kennedy needs to lay off of the spray tan.

[Kevin]

Did anyone else notice the Oompa-Loompa that was Shawn Michaels tag partner?

Mr Kennedy needs to lay off of the spray tan.

I actually thought it was the lighting or something.. He looked freaking red.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It looked like somebody poured soda syrup all over him.

[ponelas park townie]

Hornswoggle's 1st partner may have been the worst jobber I've ever seen. Not only because he was scrawny as hell, but because when Foley came out he kept mouthing "Mick Foley" over and over with a look of astonishment on his face.

And yes, poor Highlanders. The Bushwhackers of the 2000s.

[Bossanova]

Anyone else watching the midget gimmick rumble

[johnniehardrock]

I Love Midget Wrestling

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I Love Midget Wrestling

agreed


love their lil entrances

[Bossanova]

I love that lil Kane is the smallest one

[DiabloSammich]

Bite his kneecap!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

the lil kane and his lil sit up, then climbing up to the second rope, took all his lil might

[SpicyMcHaggis]

And who said the Junior Division couldn't last?

[NickyL0885]

HOLY SHIT!! Jeff is one sick dude. I dont see how he cant win at RR. I mean....he can def carry the title.

[ToddEVF]

HOLY SHIT!! Jeff is one sick dude. I dont see how he cant win at RR. I mean....he can def carry the title.

if he does win at RR its just to transition to either a new Champ they don't want Orton to put over or to have him lose it the next night at Raw in a rematch.

It was a sick spot. . . i suppose. the medics, refs, and Ricky Steamboat pulling styrofoam off the landing zone made it look very weak. Also by having the landings blocked, we were unable to see if it was a bad bump. . . Hardy had perfect rotation on his Swanton, and from the way it looked so did Orton on the back body drop.

However i do commend WWE for using people who actually looked like medics this time. . . Good work boys.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I believe that swanton was higher than the one he gave to Abyss off the TNA stage. It'll be a good highlight moment, however I don't think it secures him a spot for the WWE title. It will cement his main event status hopefully.

[ToddEVF]

I believe that swanton was higher than the one he gave to Abyss off the TNA stage. It'll be a good highlight moment, however I don't think it secures him a spot for the WWE title. It will cement his main event status hopefully.

agreed. It did help him make it look like he is a contender. Too bad he has to still work on his mic skills. . . then again so does the champ.

[cougarjake13]

agreed. It did help him make it look like he is a contender. Too bad he has to still work on his mic skills. . . then again so does the champ.

yeh his time on the mic last night was horrible

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Actions speak louder than words but it didn't help when he repeated the same line ("take him out") with the same inflection and delivery (bored and unexcited).

[cougarjake13]

Actions speak louder than words but it didn't help when he repeated the same line ("take him out") with the same inflection and delivery (bored and unexcited).

yeh that was bad

[CruelCircus]

I believe that swanton was higher than the one he gave to Abyss off the TNA stage. It'll be a good highlight moment, however I don't think it secures him a spot for the WWE title. It will cement his main event status hopefully.

Then there was the 20 foot ladder dive through Bubba Ray. And the dive from the stands, again through Bubba Ray, I believe. Jeff is a wacko.

[cigarsandscotch]

Fuck it, under perfect conditions that is a scary bump to take. I have to give credit to Jeff Hardy on that. That is worthy of some heavyweight gold, if not at least the main event at Wrestlemania. I hate to think anyone is taking those kind of risks for nothing. :clap::clap::clap:

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm making a prediction and saying that by the end of 2008, Jeff Hardy will have held the title if not still be the WWE Champion.

[cigarsandscotch]

I'm making a prediction and saying that by the end of 2008, Jeff Hardy will have held the title if not still be the WWE Champion.

I agree. Pretty amazing considering his status and mindset towards the profession just a few years ago. Awesome comeback.

[cougarjake13]

if orton can have the strap for a while and not be a transitional champ like he was the first time then jeff sure can be , he just needs to work on his mic skills a lil more not that orton is any better

[oh_kee_pa]

3 weeks ago i said to my girlfriend, who has a huge crush on Hardy there was no way he would win at the rumble.... i told her monday night that i think he has a pretty decent chance to take the belt...
if for no other reason then to surprise some people....
but, he is better on the mic then i thought he would be, and he will go out and shock you with his moves when he can

[ToddEVF]

told her monday night that i think he has a pretty decent chance to take the belt...
if for no other reason then to surprise some people....
but, he is better on the mic then i thought he would be, and he will go out and shock you with his moves when he can

let me take the classic WWF standpoint on Hardy as world champ.

Jeff Hardy as World Champion? He's too small.

with that out of the way, let me address the surprise people comment. There really is no surprising with this as its almost half and half with fans saying who will walk out of RR with the belt. This push is to distract people while they consider who can hold the gold for a while. Sure, i might be wrong. But If Hardy gets the big push, its just until the Draft.

[cougarjake13]

let me take the classic WWF standpoint on Hardy as world champ.

Jeff Hardy as World Champion? He's too small.

with that out of the way, let me address the surprise people comment. There really is no surprising with this as its almost half and half with fans saying who will walk out of RR with the belt. This push is to distract people while they consider who can hold the gold for a while. Sure, i might be wrong. But If Hardy gets the big push, its just until the Draft.

too small ???

maybe back in the day but he's bgger than he was when he was with matt and lita as the hardy boyz

he's about as big as orton

[Fallon]

Jeff has come a long way since he's returned. I can now picture him as a World Champ.

[ToddEVF]

too small ???

maybe back in the day but he's bgger than he was when he was with matt and lita as the hardy boyz

he's about as big as orton

under old school standards even Orton is a little small to be world champ.

[conman823]

At least its a different main event with different competitors.

i think they should go for a last minute change ad make it a no DQ match. I think this match could make both of these guy bigger with the fans if they go all out (And I hate Orton).

[ralphbxny]

I saw Hardy at MSG during survivor series a couple years ago and he took some crazy bumps there. This one was amazing! I really can see him as champ.

[ralphbxny]

I loved the lil rumble in a big big way!

[cougarjake13]

under old school standards even Orton is a little small to be world champ.

true but so would a lot of the recent former champs not named taker or batista



edge, rey mysterio, cena, rvd all dont fit that old school mold

[ToddEVF]

true but so would a lot of the recent former champs not named taker or batista



edge, rey mysterio, cena, rvd all dont fit that old school mold

that is true, that is damn true.

But i suppose its a progressive move, being that Big Show and Lashley are due back within weeks. . . just a thought

[cougarjake13]

that is true, that is damn true.

But i suppose its a progressive move, being that Big Show and Lashley are due back within weeks. . . just a thought

what shows ???

[ToddEVF]

Lashley is still listed as a Raw Superstar, as for Big Show he has yet to be put on a Roster. It wouldn't surprise me if he was Raw.

[conman823]

Lashley is still listed as a Raw Superstar, as for Big Show he has yet to be put on a Roster. It wouldn't surprise me if he was Raw.

Great the long forgotten return of "Black Lesner". Last time this guy was in the picture I stopped watching RAW for about 2 months.....and so did a lot of other people if I remember.:thumbdown:

[cougarjake13]

yeh cena vs lashley was horrible

[Chimee]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/none/2008/january15-21/6242586

[ToddEVF]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/none/2008/january15-21/6242586

why can't he get more mic time? this is pretty good stuff

[King Imp]

So, how many of you are lucky enough to have that USA-HD channel? Those of us in the world of Cablevision surely aren't. :furious:

[RingWraith]

So, how many of you are lucky enough to have that USA-HD channel? Those of us in the world of Cablevision surely aren't. :furious:


I know how you're feeling. I'm also in the Cablevision land, and stupid me, weeks ago, I thought that we were getting USA HD because of the debut of RAWHD.

Now, all there is is Smackdown (which I never watch) in HD.

I hope we get USA HD in the near future. I called Cablevision twice and the idiots over there don't know if and when we get the channel.

Oh well, gotta wait and see.

[RingWraith]

Great the long forgotten return of "Black Lesner". Last time this guy was in the picture I stopped watching RAW for about 2 months.....and so did a lot of other people if I remember.:thumbdown:


I actually wish Brock Lesner would come back, so I don't have to deal with seeing Lashley's least menacing face for a big man.

[King Imp]

I called Cablevision twice and the idiots over there don't know if and when we get the channel.

At least you got an honest answer from them. Most of the time those morons at Cablevision try telling people that so and so channel is definitely coming soon when it clearly isn't. They are so clueless there.

[cougarjake13]

im not sure i gotta check

[Fallon]

So, how many of you are lucky enough to have that USA-HD channel? Those of us in the world of Cablevision surely aren't. :furious:

I have it with Comcast, though I don't get Sci-fi HD, but I probably wouldn't watch ECW anyways.

[Fallon]

I really dug the new set, but RAW was just decent.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Torrie Wilson in HD is gonna be SCARY.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

well from RAW, you now know that Orton is retaining

who ever gets the upper hand on Raw pre PPV, loses the match most of the time


or Hardy will get the Pity DQ Win, which is a spit in the face

[Fallon]

Torrie Wilson in HD is gonna be SCARY.

Maria looked dope in HD. She was wearing body glitter. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Mickie looked great, Ashley looks weird now.

[Chimee]

Ashley looked plastic.

[conman823]

Ashley IS plastic.

Fixed it.

[Kevin]

Yea, Ashley looks really, really fake.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Maria looked the best in HD.

[cougarjake13]

absolutely she looked the best


and she'll look the best in playboy as well

[foodcourtdruide]

well from RAW, you now know that Orton is retaining

who ever gets the upper hand on Raw pre PPV, loses the match most of the time


or Hardy will get the Pity DQ Win, which is a spit in the face

Agree. DQ win for Hardy.

[cougarjake13]

Agree. DQ win for Hardy.

what i see is orton tries to get counted out by walking up the ramp

vince or regal comes out and says you better go back to the ring or you will lose the title

orton then goes back in, they wrestle for a little bit and eventually he gets dq'd by hitting hardy with the belt or chair

[ToddEVF]

well from RAW, you now know that Orton is retaining

who ever gets the upper hand on Raw pre PPV, loses the match most of the time


or Hardy will get the Pity DQ Win, which is a spit in the face

Its without a doubt Orton will retain, however I feel he will actually do a straight match for a change which in itself would be a shot at Hardy's pride and a spit in the face of the fans who think Orton can only retain by DQ.

[epo]

Its without a doubt Orton will retain, however I feel he will actually do a straight match for a change which in itself would be a shot at Hardy's pride and a spit in the face of the fans who think Orton can only retain by DQ.

I've gotta agree with that sentiment.

Orton needs a straight win and remember this is Hardy's first "shot" at the big belt. Vince has a long history of making the mobile upper-midcarders earn their way up the ladder.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Its without a doubt Orton will retain, however I feel he will actually do a straight match for a change which in itself would be a shot at Hardy's pride and a spit in the face of the fans who think Orton can only retain by DQ.

I've gotta agree with that sentiment.

Orton needs a straight win and remember this is Hardy's first "shot" at the big belt. Vince has a long history of making the mobile upper-midcarders earn their way up the ladder.

both valid points, he is due a clean win

but all those times in the Dog House for wellness drinking pills etc, I don't see it either a DQ, or cheating while the ref is down is how it will happen

He is the champ because they are low on Talent, the wellness program and Cena gone has left a void. HHH is a drama queen he wants the strap at Mania. So Orton holds the strap, but never gets a clean win at a PPV, somewhat holding him down

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yea, Ashley looks really, really fake.

There is nothing wrong with that, you Armenian queer.

[Great Tiger's Turban]

There is nothing wrong with that, you Armenian queer.

FAIL

She is awful much like many of the woman you like

[Kevin]

There is nothing wrong with that, you Armenian queer.

Really?? You do not like Torrie and YOU'RE calling me queer??







BWBWBWBWBWWHWHWHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

[SodaPops Soda]

There is nothing wrong with that, you Armenian queer.

This coming from a guy who has 2 fav qbs


One throws like a girl
And one is best known for getting drink and hitting on a fake girl..

[Soda Popinski's Vodka]

This coming from a guy who has 2 fav qbs


One throws like a girl
And one is best known for getting drink and hitting on a fake girl..

who the fuck is this dickhead stealing my name.

Hey buddy I am the real russian here go back to drinking your soda and leave the message board posting to the real men.

[Quesediche's Fedora]

Quesediche Pisans, Will This 5 Year Old That I Was Really Made For, Come Get Me.. I Am Dying Here! Quesediche Pisans

[Tenbatsuzen]

Really?? You do not like Torrie and YOU'RE calling me queer??







BWBWBWBWBWWHWHWHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!


Torrie has horrific skin AND she fucked Kidman.

Who's laughing now, fucko?

[Chimee]

Kidman

[ToddEVF]

Torrie has horrific skin AND she fucked Kidman.


I'm so happy I still have standard def. And yes, she's damaged good as kidman is like the plague

[cougarjake13]

missed hd torrie

was she that bad ???

[Tenbatsuzen]

I actually saw a high-rez pic of Torrie from an event a few days ago, and it seems like her skin is better, so maybe it's not so bad.

My Torrie has horrible skin platform came from an episode of Nitro - I think it was when Hogan walked out and Russo ran him down - they asked for Torrie for a reaction and she wasn't wearing any makeup and looked HORRIFIC.

It completely turned me off to her.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/adamle

Mike Adamle (American Gladiators Play by Play in the 1990s) join the RAW team

I bet he is getting trained to replace Michael Cole or Coach on Smakdown or back up if Jim Ross leaves

[cougarjake13]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/adamle

Mike Adamle (American Gladiators Play by Play in the 1990s) join the RAW team

I bet he is getting trained to replace Michael Cole or Coach on Smakdown or back up if Jim Ross leaves

what the hell has been doing since the original A.G. ???

[oh_kee_pa]

i dont know if anyone has any opinions on cena winning last night, im sure mostly negative... but here is what i would like to see happen...

Cena turns out to be McMahons puppet in the whole situation. Vince didnt want triple H to win the event, obviously, so he brought Cena back to defeat him.
Cena now a heel, which is what he should be w/ the fan reaction he gets...
Triple H is entered into the Elmination Chamber next month and wins.
Beats Orton for the belt..
Triple H Vs Cena at WM 24

[Chimee]

No, Cena's still Cena.

[cougarjake13]

No, Cena's still Cena.

unfortunately

its true

[cougarjake13]

i dont know if anyone has any opinions on cena winning last night, im sure mostly negative... but here is what i would like to see happen...

Cena turns out to be McMahons puppet in the whole situation. Vince didnt want triple H to win the event, obviously, so he brought Cena back to defeat him.
Cena now a heel, which is what he should be w/ the fan reaction he gets...
Triple H is entered into the Elmination Chamber next month and wins.
Beats Orton for the belt..
Triple H Vs Cena at WM 24

looks like your gonna get your wish

elimination chamber at no mercy

winner faces the winner of cena/orton (also at no mercy) at wrestlemania

[cougarjake13]

6 contestants will be in my opinion

1. triple h
2. hbk
3. jericho
4. jbl
5. jeff hardy
6. mr kennedy


looks like i was right except it'll be umaga instead of kennedy

[Kevin]

6 contestants will be in my opinion

1. triple h
2. hbk
3. jericho
4. jbl
5. jeff hardy
6. mr kennedy


looks like i was right except it'll be umaga instead of kennedy

Wow Kennedy must be in the dog house or something.. No way Youmaga should be in that match over him... My winner is Tripple Haych

[NickyL0885]

hahaa. gotta love DX. HHH and HBK have such good chemistry. it was a no brainer that HBK was going to be his partner.

[cougarjake13]

Wow Kennedy must be in the dog house or something.. No way Youmaga should be in that match over him... My winner is Tripple Haych

yeh its most likely gonna be him


unless JBL who is so far up mcmahons ass he may as well be a tumor gets the nod

[SpicyMcHaggis]

If Cena loses in some astounding way, they might very well do Jeff Hardy vs. Randy Orton II for the main event at Wrestle Mania, and if they do, they should do title for title and repeat history with Hogan/Warrior.

[oh_kee_pa]

If Cena loses in some astounding way, they might very well do Jeff Hardy vs. Randy Orton II for the main event at Wrestle Mania, and if they do, they should do title for title and repeat history with Hogan/Warrior.

i think they will determine that when they get the ppv buyrate for the Rumble. And by all indications it should be up over last year considering people were hyped for the Raw championship match

[King Hippos Bandaid]

yawn

Raw Sucked

[Kevin]

yawn

Raw Sucked

As Fallon just said.. New Raw slogen. Raw Is Eh..

[ScottFromGA]

yea...only funny thing is when HHH got the crowd to chant "Brush your Teeth" at Snitsky......


jesus christ, does he eat peanut butter and green peas before his match?

but on a high note, anyone notice how clear his skin was? :blink:

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Congrats, page 100. But anyways, my question to Kennedy, is retiring Flair really more important than a WWE title shot? Have you been paying attention to the storyline at all?

[Kevin]

HD really does not do well by Beth Pheonix..

[ToddEVF]

what the hell has been doing since the original A.G. ???

He was a Sideline reporter for the XFL. . . thank god i read that and didn't know it off the top of my head.

Other than that. . . your guess is as good as mine

[King Hippos Bandaid]

after watching te remble then Raw on Monday all i gots to say is

Umaga's got a big butt, Umaga's got a big butt


looks like the Rikishi Gene is in full affect

[ToddEVF]

after watching te remble then Raw on Monday all i gots to say is

Umaga's got a big butt, Umaga's got a big butt


looks like the Rikishi Gene is in full affect

no one ever questioned Umaga's Samoan-ness

[silera]

I Piss On This Thing.

[Dr.Rockso]

Awwww

its alright

Dr.Rockso gonna make you a balloon animal babay!!!












I DO COCAINE!!!

[ToddEVF]

i see that because the next 2 weeks are taped no one cares about raw today.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

That's a pretty cool submission Kennedy had. A guy like him definitely can benefit from having more than one finisher because it can show a versatile side beyond just being awesome on the microphone. By the end of the year he'll be champion at least once.

[Chimee]

How many finishers does that put him at?

[ToddEVF]

Spicy, i tend to disagree in the sense that he even though he has the ability and charisma what he lacks is the confidence to do so. That is what is holding him back. When it comes to the big matches, he looks a little sloppy.

[CruelCircus]

So there are going to be 2 Elimination Chamber matches at No Way Out?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Yes, and I believe that's a total mistake.

As far as Kennedy goes, that'll be 3 finishers.
- Green Bay Plunge (rolling fireman's carry from second rope or from standing position)
- Mic Check (Reverse STO)
- Inverted Figure Four Leg Lock

[ToddEVF]

So there are going to be 2 Elimination Chamber matches at No Way Out?
Yes, and I believe that's a total mistake.


Whats next a PPV that is all cage matches?

wait what?

[Chimee]

Yes, and I believe that's a total mistake.

As far as Kennedy goes, that'll be 3 finishers.
- Green Bay Plunge (rolling fireman's carry from second rope or from standing position)
- Mic Check (Reverse STO)
- Inverted Figure Four Leg Lock

I'd throw in the Kenton Bomb (Swanton) too.

[foodcourtdruide]

Everyone says Kennedy is great on the mic, but I just don't see it. All I've seen his emotions range from is angry to slightly more angry.

I thought Carlito was great on the mic, but he's misused currently, same with Santino. Why isn't he just a manager?!

Who do you guys think the best current talker in the WWE is? I go with Jericho/Orton on RAW (although I hated him, Orton has gotten much better too. He's developed into a very good heel, too bad he'll lose the title to Cena at NWO) and MVP/Edge on Smackdown!

I honestly think they should put a mask on Batista.

[Dougie Brootal]

any mickie james last nite? i dont watch anymore cuz cena came back.

[foodcourtdruide]

any mickie james last nite? i dont watch anymore cuz cena came back.

Yeah, I hear ya. The positive things I said about Orton above don't come out with Cena. Cena drags people down both in the ring and on the mic. He's marketable, but terrible for people that watch wrestling as an adult soap opera and want to see some amazing athleticism. His character is lame and he's average at best in the ring.

[Heather 8]

any mickie james last nite? i dont watch anymore cuz cena came back.

She and Kelly Kelly (ugh, ugh) beat Victoria & Beth Phoenix in a tag match.

Here, u kan haz videeo:

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[conman823]

Everyone says Kennedy is great on the mic, but I just don't see it. All I've seen his emotions range from is angry to slightly more angry.

I thought Carlito was great on the mic, but he's misused currently, same with Santino. Why isn't he just a manager?!

Who do you guys think the best current talker in the WWE is? I go with Jericho/Orton on RAW (although I hated him, Orton has gotten much better too. He's developed into a very good heel, too bad he'll lose the title to Cena at NWO) and MVP/Edge on Smackdown!

I honestly think they should put a mask on Batista.

I can't even believe you put Orton in the same sentence as jericho. Orton is not even a paper champion, he's fucking cardboard. His mic skills: Cardboard Ring Skills: Cardboard.

I get MAD at Orton for being so bad. Its like all he thinks being a heel is is fucking nasty looks and talking like a tough guy. Should have never been given this long of a title reign, but when your lips are on HHH's ass all the time I guess they throw you a bone.

[Dougie Brootal]

She and Kelly Kelly (ugh, ugh) beat Victoria & Beth Phoenix in a tag match.

Here, u kan haz videeo:

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you really are the best. TO THE BUDDY LIST!!!

[conman823]

For examples just watch his whole bit with Matt Hardy a few weeks back "And now I' gonna kick him in the head". It gave my douche chills. Heavens no don't kick me in the head......cause every other wrestlers done that to me in the ring for years.......but now I'll be out of action because of it.

Kick to the head, chinlock, RKO. Thats an Orton match.

[Chimee]

The worst part of that promo was when he said "I just kicked him where his appendix used to be."

That makes me cringe every time.

[conman823]

The worst part of that promo was when he said "I just kicked him where his appendix used to be."

That makes me cringe every time.

In fairness to him as a human being, not Randy the Wrestler, someone wrote that piss/ approved it/ and let it on national TV.

LOL, ich Someone someone should have kicked him where his talent used to be.