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JerryTaker

12-08-2005, 10:51 AM

is it another MMO? If so, I'm waiting for Warhammer to come out
before I decide what to commit to, since Warcraft is slowly pulling me
away from Everquest.I had some friends that were obsessed with XI until they tried Warcraft, which pulled them away like a bad metaphor. 

 
Sweet Queen Bee, I hope it comes quickly,
I hope your thoughts don't drift to me
I'll die in here, you now are free...

angrymissy

12-08-2005, 10:58 AM

I was way into FFXI for a few months then suddenly lost interest
after investing a lot of time into it.  Once you progressed in the
game you had to have 4+ consecutive hours a day to get anywhere.Has anyone played the demo for this one yet? 

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HBox

12-08-2005, 11:45 AM

<a href="http://finalfantasyxiidelay.ytmnd.com/" target="_blank">This actually makes that annoying Family Guy joke funny.</a> 

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King Imp

12-08-2005, 11:50 AM

I've been looking forward to this game ever since they announced it years ago, but I hate real time battle systems. Fighting with armies is much better as a turn based system (i.e. FFX).

suggums

12-08-2005, 12:02 PM

Props to HBox for the surprisingly funny ytmnd link.Threadjack: Anyone care to explain the ytmnd phenomenon?

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ChimneyFish

12-16-2005, 06:07 AM

quote: I've been looking forward to this game ever since they announced it years ago, but I hate real time battle systems. Fighting with armies is much better as a turn based system (i.e. FFX). I agree. While I like the Knights of the Old Republic games, I wasn't thrilled with the battle system.As far as the release date, all I've read says "late next year(06)". I would expect an September/November release.

angrymissy

12-16-2005, 07:17 AM

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ytmnd">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ytmnd</a>funniest site ever.  Check out the It's Jesus LOL ones, they had me freaking laughing hysterically at work.

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JustJon

12-17-2005, 12:21 PM

quote:is it another MMO? If so, I'm waiting for Warhammer to come out
before I decide what to commit to, since Warcraft is slowly pulling me
away from Everquest.
Not an MMO.  I could never stomach paying $50 then $10 a month for an MMO.  I've beta tested a couple, but never erally played any serious ones for long term.

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HBox

03-11-2006, 11:56 PM

<a href="http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2461&Itemid=2" target="_blank">Final Fantasy 12 is closing on its Japanese release, and Japanese magazine Famitsu has reviewed it.</a>The verdict? 40 out of 40, only the sixth perfect score in the magazine's history.Just wanted to get the hype machine rolling. Now I REALLY can't wait. <a href="http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2461&Itemid=2" target="_blank"></a>

ChimneyFish

03-13-2006, 12:03 PM

I have Dragon Quest VIII.When I get to it, I'll tell you how it is.(FFXII demo)Right now, I'm kind of addicted to Dragon Quest.

This message was edited by ChimneyFish on 3-13-06 @ 4:03 PM

King Imp

03-13-2006, 07:29 PM

HBox wrote: <a href="http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2461&Itemid=2" target="_blank">Final Fantasy 12 is closing on its Japanese release, and Japanese magazine Famitsu has reviewed it.</a>The verdict? 40 out of 40, only the sixth perfect score in the magazine's history. Just wanted to get the hype machine rolling. Now I REALLY can't wait.  <a href="http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2461&Itemid=2" target="_blank"></a>I just know I'm going to buy this game no matter what, but I honestly hate the new battle system they showed in the demo. It makes no sense and is very hard to follow. There are party member fighting off screen that you never get to see. Where is the fun in that if you don't actually get to enjoy the visuals of the game?

spazemunky

03-14-2006, 10:28 AM

i'm a recovering Everquest addict.  i had over 366 days played
in 4 years.  man i loved that game, but it ends your life.

ChimneyFish

04-01-2006, 01:40 PM

Ok. I've played the demo.Of course I don't understand what is so wrong with turn based fights, but whatever. Not as bad as I thought. I can live with it, as long as it has a good storyline.The animation scenes are the best thing I've seen in awhile.(at least on PS2)

King Imp

04-02-2006, 11:00 AM

ChimneyFish wrote: Ok. I've played the demo.Of course I don't understand what is so wrong with turn based fights, but whatever. Not as bad as I thought. I can live with it, as long as it has a good storyline.The animation scenes are the best thing I've seen in awhile.(at least on PS2)Don't you agree though that it's a bit hard to follow all the action on screen at once? Where is the fun in party members #2 & #3 fighting off screen where you can't see them? I do admit though that the graphics are amazing. Just imagine how much better it will be on final release.

ChimneyFish

04-05-2006, 11:32 AM

King Imp wrote: Don't you agree though that it's a bit hard to follow all the action on screen at once? Where is the fun in party members #2 & #3 fighting off screen where you can't see them? I do admit though that the graphics are amazing. Just imagine how much better it will be on final release. I don't really like the battle system whatsoever.(especially since I'm stangely attracted to the "bunny girl")What I meant was that I really hope the storyline makes up for the lack turn based fighting.And, yes, it should be visually stunning when the finla product comes out.(already out overseas, I think)  Anyone play XI????Never got into the whole MMORPG thing.Does this story have any thing to do with it????

narc

04-09-2006, 08:02 PM

I LOVED DQ VIII. I pumped over a hundred hours into that game and it still didn't feel like enough, somehow.
FFXII from the demo was okay. But not nearly enough to want to shell out the cash for the game.

I was always more of a DQ partisan than FF, so I'm a little biased. But FF's storylines have gotten a little too convoluted and angsty for me. FFX was pretty great though.

HBox

04-09-2006, 08:09 PM

Suikoden 5 is absolutely amazing. It starts slow, but after a certain point the story and gameplay really pick up. It's been a very long time since I've finished a game and was disappointed that it had to end. I've had Kingdom hearts 2, a game I was really looking forward to, sitting here for a couple weeks as I finished my first run through of Suikoden 5, and then a second run through so I could get all 108 stars. It's just so good, maybe the best in the series.

ChimneyFish

04-12-2006, 07:20 AM

narc wrote: I LOVED DQ VIII. I pumped over a hundred hours into that game and it still didn't feel like enough, somehow. FFXII from the demo was okay. But not nearly enough to want to shell out the cash for the game. I was always more of a DQ partisan than FF, so I'm a little biased. But FF's storylines have gotten a little too convoluted and angsty for me. FFX was pretty great though. I just started my second run through of DQVIII.(because I'm addicted, and I wanted to level up higher by the time you get to the Dragovian Trials) I'll definitely put out the cash for FFXII. Just because it's new and FF. And FFX was an instant classic, in my opinion. Great storyline.

King Imp

04-12-2006, 08:56 PM

HBox wrote: Suikoden 5 is absolutely amazing. It starts slow, but after a certain point the story and gameplay really pick up. It's been a very long time since I've finished a game and was disappointed that it had to end. I've had Kingdom hearts 2, a game I was really looking forward to, sitting here for a couple weeks as I finished my first run through of Suikoden 5, and then a second run through so I could get all 108 stars. It's just so good, maybe the best in the series. I'm playing Suikoden 5 now and I am trying so hard to like it, but I'm failing to see the absolute greatness of this game that others have claimed. Aside from some of the bosses, none of the fights are any challenge whatsoever. Add in the fact that you can only carry a certain amount of items makes it very annoying having to discard stuff after battles that you may have wanted later on. Then there is the little thing with almost every item can be equipped on every member. That's lame in my opinion. Every character should have specific items that are only equippable by them (i.e. Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Grandia, Shadow Hearts). That makes it so much more fun finding it. I'll finish the game since I have put in a decent amount of time already, but so far I'm failing to be impressed.

HBox

04-12-2006, 09:12 PM

King Imp wrote: HBox wrote: Suikoden 5 is absolutely amazing. It starts slow, but after a certain point the story and gameplay really pick up. It's been a very long time since I've finished a game and was disappointed that it had to end. I've had Kingdom hearts 2, a game I was really looking forward to, sitting here for a couple weeks as I finished my first run through of Suikoden 5, and then a second run through so I could get all 108 stars. It's just so good, maybe the best in the series. I'm playing Suikoden 5 now and I am trying so hard to like it, but I'm failing to see the absolute greatness of this game that others have claimed. Aside from some of the bosses, none of the fights are any challenge whatsoever. Add in the fact that you can only carry a certain amount of items makes it very annoying having to discard stuff after battles that you may have wanted later on. Then there is the little thing with almost every item can be equipped on every member. That's lame in my opinion. Every character should have specific items that are only equippable by them (i.e. Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Grandia, Shadow Hearts). That makes it so much more fun finding it. I'll finish the game since I have put in a decent amount of time already, but so far I'm failing to be impressed. Have you gotten your castle yet? You can store a bunch of stuff in there. Once I got it I didn't have a problem with items. Even before you get your castle. Once you get to a certain mansion (don't wan't to ruin it) you can store extra stuff, you will be introduced to Chuck, the storerrom guy. And don't worry, the difficulty gets ramped way up at the end, starting once you enter a certain forest. And there ARE multiple classes of armor and headpieces. The smaller classes and smaller swordsman can't equip armor. I'm surprised you didn't mention loading times though. That was my only gripe with the game. 

This message was edited by HBox on 4-13-06 @ 1:19 AM

ChimneyFish

04-13-2006, 07:29 AM

I usually go by the reviews in GameInformer magazine. I've played games they've rated mediocre and bad, and they're usually right on. I'm going up to GameStop after work. I'm wondering what I should get.They said the first six hours of Suikoden are very tedious. I don't know if I feel like dealing with that.Radiata Stories and Shadow Hearts got good reviews. Anyone play either of these????Tales of Legendia got a decent review. Haven't run into anyone who's played it.Any ideas what to get????  One more thing. There's a big rumour that's going around that they're going to remake FFVII for the PS3. The only downside???? They're using the battle system from FFXII.

HBox

04-13-2006, 10:27 AM

ChimneyFish wrote: I usually go by the reviews in GameInformer magazine. I've played games they've rated mediocre and bad, and they're usually right on. I'm going up to GameStop after work. I'm wondering what I should get.They said the first six hours of Suikoden are very tedious. I don't know if I feel like dealing with that.Radiata Stories and Shadow Hearts got good reviews. Anyone play either of these????Tales of Legendia got a decent review. Haven't run into anyone who's played it.Any ideas what to get???? One more thing. There's a big rumour that's going around that they're going to remake FFVII for the PS3. The only downside???? They're using the battle system from FFXII.  I'd say that the first few hours of Suikoden 5, while slow, are not as bad as the first few hours of Kingdom hearts 2, just to give you a reference point inf you've played KH2.

ChimneyFish

04-13-2006, 11:48 AM

I haven't played KH2 yet.I guess you haven't played the other games.I'm leaving in 15 mins, and I haven't decided what to get yet.I think I 'm going to pick up Resident Evil 4 and another game.

angrymissy

04-14-2006, 02:35 PM

I just reactivated for FFXI online again because i'm going to be working from home soon and "multitasking"there is an expansion coming out where you can be a freaking pirate - awesomeI just bought Dragon Quest VIII yesterday but haven't touched it yet, I dunno... everyone says it's great but it looks a little cartooney to me.

narc

04-14-2006, 02:40 PM

It is cartoony because it was done by the same guy who does Dragon Ball Z. Still loads of fun. It's a bit different from the recent FF games with their robots and brooding punk kids. Aside from the all the gambling, death and breast rubbing, it'd be more tame in terms of content like KH.

ChimneyFish

04-15-2006, 05:45 AM

angrymissy wrote: I just reactivated for FFXI online again because i'm going to be working from home soon and "multitasking"there is an expansion coming out where you can be a freaking pirate - awesomeI just bought Dragon Quest VIII yesterday but haven't touched it yet, I dunno... everyone says it's great but it looks a little cartooney to me.I'm in the process of having a gaming computer built for me.I was wondering if I should get FFXI. I think I will. Is it turn based combat???? I just finished DQVIII. It's an old school rpg. The storyline will help take some of the cartooniness out of it. Personally, I think it's a great game.

HBox

06-23-2006, 09:33 PM

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqJ-9UI-qAw" target="_blank">English trailer.</a>

ChimneyFish

06-24-2006, 09:03 AM

Nice.Can't wait for this.I posted this in another thread, but they also previewed three FFXIII titles at E3.Two for the PS3, and one, I guess, is for the PSP.

King Imp

06-27-2006, 10:56 AM

The cutscenes looks phenominal, but unfortunately that doesn't make a game. It will all come down to whether or not they made the combat easier to understand because frankly I had no clue what I was doing in the demo.

ChimneyFish

06-27-2006, 11:47 AM

Yes, me too. Up until now, I haven't played a Final Fantasy I didn't like. I hope they don't ruin this one.

ChimneyFish

10-21-2006, 07:13 AM

Well kids, ten days.Game Informer gave it a 9.5 out of 10.All the sceenshots look great. Interested to see if the battle system has changed much since the demo.

johnniewalker

10-21-2006, 08:05 AM

vChimneyFish wrote: Yes, me too. Up until now, I haven't played a Final Fantasy I didn't like. I hope they don't ruin this one. Did you like VIII?  I never got into that one too much.

ChimneyFish

10-21-2006, 09:43 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">johnniewalker wrote: vChimneyFish wrote: Yes, me too. Up until now, I haven't played a Final Fantasy I didn't like. I hope they don't ruin this one.ÿDid you like VIII?ÿ I never got into that one too much. <hr color="cococo" align="left">

johnniewalker

10-21-2006, 10:06 AM

ChimneyFish wrote:   johnniewalker wrote: vChimneyFish wrote: Yes, me too. Up until now, I haven't played a Final Fantasy I didn't like. I hope they don't ruin this one. Did you like VIII? I never got into that one too much.  Sorry next time I wont be so coy with my questions.  Ill be more explicit  next time.

ChimneyFish

10-21-2006, 10:14 AM

I don't know what the hell just happened. Fucking edit button!!!!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" border="0" />What I typed(but didn't show up) was:I don't think I played VIII. I started with IX, then played VII, then X.(I tryed X-2, but lost intrest halfway through)

johnniewalker

10-21-2006, 10:28 AM

ChimneyFish wrote: I don't know what the hell just happened. Fucking edit button!!!!<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" />What I typed(but didn't show up) was:I don't think I played VIII. I started with IX, then played VII, then X.(I tryed X-2, but lost intrest halfway through) Its cool, I was just f'in around.  VIII is kind of the forgotten FF. VII was my favorite, but I've never played X yet.

phixion

10-21-2006, 10:33 AM

do yourself a favor and play ffX. its easily the second best one since ffvii, seriously its fucking classic.and ffviii while not nearly the same game as ffvii, ffviii easily has the best cinematics. i mean i put in the first disc to watch the opening scen every so often and still its great. sure the tech has gotten better but the movies themselves peaked in viii.

LordJezo

10-21-2006, 07:06 PM

The Judges are f'ing awesome looking. Some of the coolest characters from Square in a while. Something about them is really badass. Just seeing them march through the city in the cutscene makes me a little moist. <img border="0" src="http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8871/archadianjudgesjb2.jpg" /> I also have a major hardon for Ashe. <img border="0" src="http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5317/asheut3.jpg" /> What a sluttly little skirt. Well, especially because my girlfriend has one just like it and she now calls it her Ashe Skirt.So yeah, FFXII is awesome.  The combat system really does everything I have wanted it to do.  No more random bullshit battles.  You see everyone on the map just like in XI.  If you want to fight them you get near them and all the crazy gambit stuff starts taking effect.  It might seem a lot less interactive than previous ones but it really speeds up the game.  If you want to mircomanage you can but having your dudes do what needs to be done automatically is a great change.  The voice acting is passable and the graphics are sexy.  It's games like this that make me have no reason at all to move on to a 360.    And since I think the people reading this thread will appreciate it, here,<a target="_self" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b8G8delDlk&mode=related&search="> watch (well, listen) this amazing rant by MC Chris. </a>It's wonderful. 

This message was edited by LordJezo on 10-21-06 @ 11:14 PM

narc

10-21-2006, 08:39 PM

I like random ass battles. Makes it more challenging. Unless I really need to run. But that usually doesn't happen. I'm playing through DQVIII again and here are my stats - No. of battles: 1465Times Fled: 27Monsters Intimidated: 431 I wasn't all that crazy about KH1 as everyone else was. Kinda silly with some bullshit parts. Makes me glad I didn't get KH2. And "Smoke a Bold?"

King Imp

10-21-2006, 09:30 PM

LordJezo wrote: And since I think the people reading this thread will appreciate it, here,<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b8G8delDlk&mode=related&search=" target="_self"> watch (well, listen) this amazing rant by MC Chris. </a>It's wonderful.  That was pretty funny. Anyway, I have been playing the demo more to get ready for the release and I am starting to get a better feel for the combat. When I first tried it, I thought I had to control all of my characters and it quickly became confusing. I have since let the Gambits take over for two of them while controlling the other and I am really starting to like how it works. I'm glad I gave it a second chance because I was ready to not even bother with this game because the combat seemed too complicated.

ChimneyFish

10-23-2006, 12:08 PM

narc wrote: I like random ass battles. Makes it more challenging. Unless I really need to run. But that usually doesn't happen. I'm playing through DQVIII again and here are my stats - No. of battles: 1465Times fled: 27Monsters Intimidated: 431 I wasn't all that crazy about KH1 as everyone else was. Kinda silly with some bullshit parts. Makes me glad I didn't get KH2. And "Smoke a Bold?" Pussy.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" />Love DQVIII.I don't get the FFVII mania. Great game, but X was better.Then again, I'm a wierdo, and my favorite is IX.

angrymissy

10-23-2006, 12:09 PM

Is anyone preordering this... I'm wondering if I need to, because I plan on getting it the day it comes out  I set up a TV in my office and everything in anticipation... with this, then Guitar Hero 2 coming out, I will be very busy w/ video games in the next month

angrymissy

10-23-2006, 12:14 PM

PS - While FFX was Playable and I enjoyed it, it was absolute garbage compared to past FF games.  FFXI Online has just pissed me off, because I built a THF/NIN up to 54, and most of the other jobs up to at least 30, and you have to put in WAY too much time to advance past that, and I just can't do it anymore.  I'm going to sell all my gear and quit once my home computer is fixed.

JustJon

10-23-2006, 12:19 PM

missy, you'd be safe going to Toys R Us or some other non-video game store to pick it up day of, unless you want the collector's edition version, then you need to go to EB or Gamestop

HBox

10-23-2006, 12:20 PM

I have no idea if you will need to pre-order FFXII, but it certainly isn't going to help to be safe. I didn't pre-order FFX and I was able to get it on its release day, however I only got it out of pure luck. The store I bought it from had only one copy not reserved for pre-orders and the only reason I got it was because I got to the store at the same exact time as the UPS guy with the store's delivery.The store I pre-ordered from is having a midnight opening on release day and I will be there.

ChimneyFish

10-23-2006, 12:28 PM

angrymissy wrote: PS - While FFX was Playable and I enjoyed it, it was absolute garbage compared to past FF games.  FFXI Online has just pissed me off, because I built a THF/NIN up to 54, and most of the other jobs up to at least 30, and you have to put in WAY too much time to advance past that, and I just can't do it anymore.  I'm going to sell all my gear and quit once my home computer is fixed. I've only played XII, IX, X, half of X-2 and one other one for the PS1.(I can't remember which one)I want/wanted to play XI, but I've never played an online game, and I don't have a computer set up for gaming.

angrymissy

10-23-2006, 12:38 PM

my personal favorite is US FFIII.  I get confused with this, because some people go by the Japanese release #, but this was for Super Nintendo and was awesome

ChimneyFish

10-23-2006, 12:42 PM

angrymissy wrote: my personal favorite is US FFIII.  I get confused with this, because some people go by the Japanese release #, but this was for Super Nintendo and was awesome I think that was Japanese VI. Jon knows.On a side note, they're releasing Japanese III for the DS, the only one never released in the US.

HBox

10-23-2006, 12:57 PM

My favorite is 7. It's the obvious one and I'd love to be a guy who bucks the trend but it happened to be the third RPG I played through and it hooked me into the genre. Every memory I've had of the game is a fond memory. It was the perfect game at the perfect time for me.After that I'd say FF6 (US 3) is my second favorite, followed by 10, 4 (US 2), 9, and 8. And I even enjoyed X-2.As an aside, the FIRST RPG I ever played (although I never even came close to finishing it) by complete chance was the original Final Fantasy. I was nine years old at the time, my parents got me the game for Christmas and I had no idea what I was supposed to do or what it was about. I must have beaten Garland and crossed that bridge at least a hundred times because I had no idea what I was supposed to do beyond that. I never beat the game until I got Dawn of Souls for GBA.

ChimneyFish

10-24-2006, 12:47 PM

I really need to get Dawn of Souls. Haven't played one or two.The first one I played was IX. I just really liked the graphic style, the minigames/sidequests, music. Probably the first game I got into in a really big way.(beyond casual playing. This thing addicted me)

Davios

10-29-2006, 03:42 PM

JustJon wrote: missy, you'd be safe going to Toys R Us or some other non-video game store to pick it up day of, unless you want the collector's edition version, then you need to go to EB or Gamestop  I was told today that EB will now ONLY be sellin the collector's edition and I was told to preorder it today otherwise I would not get it on Tuesday. Came out to 62 bucks, it seemed pretty steep to me, but then again I havn't bought a game in a long while but wanted to pick this up seeing as how I played all the other Final Fantasies aside from X-2 and loved them all.

This message was edited by Davios on 10-29-06 @ 7:45 PM

Davios

10-29-2006, 04:40 PM

On a sidenote, the ending to FF XII is ALREADY on youtube. Luckily it is labelled as such and I didn't check it out.

This message was edited by Davios on 10-29-06 @ 8:41 PM

angrymissy

10-31-2006, 07:06 AM

Just got it from my local FYE (where they also tried to sneakily subsribe me to a magazine at checkout).  I was going to go to EBGames/Gamestop, but they only have the "collectors" edition that is $10 because it has a pretty case.  No thanks.  Should be busy for a few weeks now.Is it true that you NEED the strategy guide for this one?  I've heard things like, if you open a certain treasure chest in the beginning of the game, you won't be able to get the best weapon later on and crap like that.  Anyone know?  FYE didn't have the guide.

King Imp

10-31-2006, 08:20 AM

I have heard that about the treasure chest and losing out on the opportunity to get a certain weapon later on. I read it on the Gamespot forums, but those are so flooded with posts (you can easily see 50 pages filled in one day there) that I don't know if I could find that info again if I tried. I decided not to get the guide though because A) any info there could probably be found <a href="http://www.gamefaqs.com/" target="_self">here</a> and B) I have a tendency to use any guide I have had in the past too much and it takes away from the enjoyment of the game. Anyway, about that chest, yes it is true, but I haven't seen it yet so I have no idea exactly where it's located. So far the game looks good and this starting town is huge. I'm already lost and have to keep bringing up the map every 5 seconds. Can't wait until I actually get an army to fight with because alone out in the desert I was taking a beating from those wolves.

HBox

10-31-2006, 10:01 PM

There's actually three chests you have to avoid. I'll post what I know in invisitext for spoilers even thought there's not mcuh major:[color=white] One is in front of the Old man who tells you to get the sunstone and another one is in Nalbina Dungeon. I don't know where the other one is.[color=navy] You can check GameFAQS if you want specifics.This game is so damn awesome. And its much more challenging than anything since the pre-PSX Final Fantasies. I'm completely hooked so far. the Knights of the Old Republic games prepared me for this type of gameplay so it wasn't as much of a shock as perhaps it could have been.

narc

10-31-2006, 11:13 PM

angrymissy wrote: PS - While FFX was Playable and I enjoyed it, it was absolute garbage compared to past FF games. FFXI Online has just pissed me off, because I built a THF/NIN up to 54, and most of the other jobs up to at least 30, and you have to put in WAY too much time to advance past that, and I just can't do it anymore. I'm going to sell all my gear and quit once my home computer is fixed.   Really? FFX was one of my faves. But to be fair, I've only ever played the original Final Fantasy, FF3 (JP6) and FFX. I couldn't really get into the original for some reason, but I'd have to say it's a toss up between FF3 and FFX. FF VII, VIII and IX looked really really gay to me so I never played them.

Davios

11-03-2006, 08:16 AM

HBox wrote: There's actually three chests you have to avoid. I'll post what I know in invisitext for spoilers even thought there's not mcuh major: One is in front of the Old man who tells you to get the sunstone and another one is in Nalbina Dungeon. I don't know where the other one is. You can check GameFAQS if you want specifics. This game is so damn awesome. And its much more challenging than anything since the pre-PSX Final Fantasies. I'm completely hooked so far. the Knights of the Old Republic games prepared me for this type of gameplay so it wasn't as much of a shock as perhaps it could have been.   That's ridiculous, there is no way I am going back and repeating another 5 or 6 hours. Ah well I guess I'll miss out on a couple weapons.

Davios

11-03-2006, 12:22 PM

I got this off of Gamefaqs.com. I am already 10 hours in so I am just going to say fuck it to the weapon.  <h2>Zodiac Spear</h2>The most powerful weapon in the game has a trick to it that those who have to open EVERY treasure chest would miss out on. There are 4 places with treasure chests that must NOT be opened in order for the Zodiac Spear to appear:1) Treasure chest in Lowtown, outside of Old Dylan's place 2) When sneaking into the palace (Before getting the Goddess Tear), there are several chests in the Cellar. Do not open the two chests in the southeast corner. 3) All treasure chests in the Confiscatory (the place where you get your weapons and armor back after being captured) 4) In the Phon Coast, later in the game, there is an island with 16 chests all near each other. The 4th chest that must NOT be opened is among these, so it is best to leave them all alone. They only contain Gil anyway.If you've left all these treasures be, you'll find the Zodiac Spear in the Necrohol of Nabudis. It sports a whopping +150 attack and, like all spears, +8 Evasion.

CofyCrakCocaine

11-03-2006, 08:50 PM

I went over to the store and got FFXII without the pre-order bs. I did however, have to buy a collector's edition version of the game because all the standard edition games were pre-ordered. I'm still playing through Okami right now so it will be a week or two before I can give the game any kind of review. I love the Final Fantasy series. The only Final Fantasy game that I considered to overall be lousy was Final Fantasy 8. My absolute favorite Final Fantasies are II (U.S.- in Japan it's Final Fantasy 4), III (6 in Japan), and VII. Nine was good, although I was taken aback at first by the really stupid looking character designs. The protagonist has a monkey's tail for God's sake! Final Fantasy X had the weakest story, and the story was also much shorter than the Super Nintendo Final Fantasies, if one can believe that. Despite Final Fantasy's rep for very odd character design, the storylines almost always manage to redeem these characters, so I've learned that sometimes you need to override your dislike of a game's looks and take a chance. III will be my all-time favorite. No other game will top that honor, I'm afraid. Nothing in the past 12 years so far has managed to breech my love for III. Play it on an emulator if you never played it for Super Nintendo. The PS1 version of III (VI) is unplayable because of the load times, but that's just my bias.