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Kobe8

11-28-2005, 09:31 AM

Announced today - these are the names on the ballot.  Who gets in?Rick Aguilera, Albert Belle, Bert Blyleven, Will Clark, Dave Concepcion, Andre Dawson, Gary DiSarcina, Alex Fernandez, Gary Gaetti, Steve Garvey, Dwight Gooden, Rich Gossage, Ozzie Guillen, Orel Hershiser, Gregg Jefferies, Tommy John, Doug Jones, Don Mattingly, Willie McGee, Hal Morris, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter, Alan Trammell, Walt Weiss, John Wetteland.Really not a surefire first balloter in the bunch.

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badorties

11-28-2005, 09:43 AM

<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">Announced today - these are the names on the ballot.  Who gets in?Rick Aguilera, Albert Belle, Bert Blyleven, Will Clark, Dave Concepcion, Andre Dawson, Gary DiSarcina, Alex Fernandez, Gary Gaetti, Steve Garvey, Dwight Gooden, Rich Gossage, Ozzie Guillen, Orel Hershiser, Gregg Jefferies, Tommy John, Doug Jones, Don Mattingly, Willie McGee, Hal Morris, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter, Alan Trammell, Walt Weiss, John Wetteland.Really not a surefire first balloter in the bunch.[/quote]most of these guys've been on the ballot many times, it's more notable that rose is out of contention ...none of these guys are locks or even likely ... but belle, gossage, smith & jack morris have some potential

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Snoogans

11-28-2005, 10:03 AM

ill assume usually 5 guys get in, so i'll give it a shot:Jim
Rice (PLEASE), Orel Hershiser,  maybe dale murphy, uhhh Lee Smith
should since he has most saves, and Willie McGee just cause i like how
much he looked like flava flav and otis nixon had a child 


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badorties

11-28-2005, 11:11 AM

there are no minimum's for the hall, there could no intductees ... there's usually a veteran induction, or someone (non-player) special ...

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Kobe8

11-28-2005, 11:15 AM

Jim Rice and Jack Morris.  That will be it.

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Reephdweller

11-28-2005, 11:50 AM

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cougarjake13

11-28-2005, 11:57 AM

quote: Announced today - these are the names on the ballot.  Who gets in?Rick Aguilera, Albert Belle, Bert Blyleven, Will Clark, Dave Concepcion, Andre Dawson, Gary DiSarcina, Alex Fernandez, Gary Gaetti, Steve Garvey, Dwight Gooden, Rich Gossage, Ozzie Guillen, Orel Hershiser, Gregg Jefferies, Tommy John, Doug Jones, Don Mattingly, Willie McGee, Hal Morris, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter, Alan Trammell, Walt Weiss, John Wetteland.Really not a surefire first balloter in the bunch.   i really can't see any one of them getting in but if i was forced to pick i would say maybe orel hershiser and lee smith may have the most saves but a lot of people and writers don't think too much of him

badorties

11-28-2005, 12:49 PM

<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">So does this mean that Pete Rose will never be eligible for the Hall of Fame again?[/quote]he'll be eligible for the veteran's committe in 2007 ... not so sure how long he's eligible for once that voting cycle starts

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Bama

11-28-2005, 01:46 PM

DALE MURPHY 

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Bulldogcakes

11-28-2005, 02:04 PM

<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/28/D8E5K4107.html" target="blank"> Pete Rose's Ballot Eligibility Expires</a>I
wouldn't expect the veterans committee, which is now a ballot of
H.O.F.ers to do anything for him either. He's fucked, and its his own
fault. Fuck him. quote: To gain election, a player must be selected on 75
percent or more of the ballots. Sutter was on 66.7 percent of the
ballots last year, followed by Jim Rice (59.5), Rich Gossage (55.2) and
Andre Dawson (52.3). I'd
put Sutter and Rice in. Dawson's a maybe (400+ HR's/1500+ RBI's in the
70's and 80's) Only problem I have with Dawson is he only had 2 years
that really stand out as HOF years. Consistently hit 20-25 HR's and had
80-90 RBI's. Nice, but 87 is the only year that really knocks your
socks off. By comparison, every healthy year Albert Belle had
was HOF caliber, he just didn't do it long enough, like
Mattingly. Gossage is a no. I loved Jack Morris, but he wasn't a HOF type. And Bama, get a grip. He didn't even have 400 HR's or 1500 RBI's playing in a launching pad. Please. 

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Bulldogcakes

11-28-2005, 02:20 PM

Look at Albert Belle's #'s Played in 1539 games, which averages out to 10 full seasons381 HR's1239 RBI's389 Doubles.295 Lifetime BA So a AVERAGE year for Belle was 38 HR's, 124 RBI's 40 doubles 295 BA. He
plays two or three more years and its a no brainer. He was so
consistent I'd say Yes for him, just not on the first ballot. 


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ADF

11-28-2005, 06:54 PM

I wouldn't put any of those guys in.  It's watered down enough. 

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TheGameHHH

11-28-2005, 07:05 PM

BDC, do you realize Belle was a juicer?! I love how you're all 'fuck the guy who gambled, but let's put the juice head in the Hall.' Didn't Belle get caught corking his bat once too? 

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cougarjake13

11-29-2005, 01:13 PM

quote: BDC, do you realize Belle was a juicer?! I love how you're all 'fuck the guy who gambled, but let's put the juice head in the Hall.' Didn't Belle get caught corking his bat once too? <img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetGameHHH.jpg" border="0" /> he did get caught corking his bat and lets not forget the time "joey" threw a baseball at a fan in the stands

LordRuckus

11-29-2005, 03:36 PM

Yes Bama.  Atlanta Braves forever.  Oh yeah, and Free Pete Rose!

Bulldogcakes

11-29-2005, 03:49 PM

quote:BDC,
do you realize Belle was a juicer?! I love how you're all 'fuck the guy
who gambled, but let's put the juice head in the Hall.' Didn't Belle
get caught corking his bat once too? 

 The corking thing I
remember, and I dont take that seriously. Studies have been done (by
major universities) showing that corking has no effect other than what
you would get using a lighter bat. So if he thought it helped, it was
all in his head. I know its against the rules of baseball, but I
consider that a misdemeanor, Steroids and Gambling to me are felonies. 
 I've never heard him mentioned as a juicer. I'll need some more
proof (not rumor and speculation) to go with you on that. He was a
nasty S.O.B., and it wouldn't surprise me if there were rumors spread
about him just because people hated his guts. But if you're right and
he was, then his #'s mean nothing to me and he belongs nowhere near the
hall.If you have any proof, please post it. I honestly have never seen any.  

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TheGameHHH

11-29-2005, 06:59 PM

No, it's true I have zero concrete evident to support my claim that Belle's a juicer. However with what we know now about that era of baseball, through Canseco and that recent ESPN Mag article, I honestly find it rather safe to assume that Albert Belle was a part of those who turned to roids to help enhance their careers. Sure, it's nothing more than speculation but I honestly believe to deny it would be pure foolishness. Way more players than we have ever dreamed once were/currently are on steroids.    <img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetGameHHH.jpg" border="0" />

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cougarjake13

11-30-2005, 04:23 PM

regardless of whether he juiced or not his numbers dont add up to a hall of famer so it doesn't matter