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WRESTLINGFAN

11-27-2005, 02:00 PM

Former Atty Gen under the Carter Administration Ramsey Clark is in Baghdad to be part of Saddam Husseins defense team. His reason is to ensure his human rights arent violated and for a fair trial. He thinks he will be some part of a 21st century dream team like in the OJ trial.Lets face it Saddam has a snowballs chance in hell if he thinks his life will be spared

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11-27-2005, 02:35 PM

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Sheeplovr

11-27-2005, 03:54 PM

why wouldn't he have a snowball chance in hell not getting a death penalty whats he being charged with?as i see it he has a case to counter sue for the murder of his horible sons what a stupid mock trial it will turn up to be 
 also like Slobodan Milosevi? isn't even convicted yet so how come saddam would zip right up like a hooded sweat shirt 


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WRESTLINGFAN

11-27-2005, 04:10 PM

quote: why wouldn't he have a snowball chance in hell not getting a death penalty whats he being charged with?as i see it he has a case to counter sue for the murder of his horible sons what a stupid mock trial it will turn up to be  also like Slobodan Milosevi? isn't even convicted yet so how come saddam would zip right up like a hooded sweat shirt <a href="http://suchsome.somesuch.org/"><img src="http://suchsome.somesuch.org/RFBHsigger.jpg" border="0" /></a> number 333 its the way to be Milosevics traial is in the Hague. There is no capital punishment for his case if I am correct O and A... PARTY ROCK!!!!!

This message was edited by WRESTLINGFAN on 11-27-05 @ 8:11 PM

mdr55

11-27-2005, 04:11 PM

Can't wait for Hollywood to come out and support Saddam like there are trying to do with the Crips leader out there in Cali.

Recyclerz

11-27-2005, 04:15 PM

Ramsey Clark was AG under LBJ for a couple of years, not during Carter's term.  Ol' Jimmy has enough to be sorry for without hanging Clark on him.

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TheMojoPin

11-27-2005, 04:48 PM

Interesting how Saddam isn't being fully charged over the gas attacks (there are charges related to the attacks, but he's not being directly charged) that the pro-war faction was screaming about back in 2002 and 2003.  In short, it's not a main focus.Wonder who doesn't want what to be known...<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> Dancing with the women at the bar... << He knows his Claret from his Beaujolais >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

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WRESTLINGFAN

11-27-2005, 04:54 PM

quote: Interesting how Saddam isn't being fully charged over the gas attacks (there are charges related to the attacks, but he's not being directly charged) that the pro-war faction was screaming about back in 2002 and 2003.  In short, it's not a main focus.Wonder who doesn't want what to be known...<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> Dancing with the women at the bar... << He knows his Claret from his Beaujolais >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..." This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 11-27-05 @ 8:52 PM Youre right on that. Wasnt the gas attack on the kurds in 88-89? They are charging him with killing shiites in 82 

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TheMojoPin

11-27-2005, 05:04 PM

A preliminary <a title="Defense Intelligence Agency" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Defense_Intelligence_Agency">Defense Intelligence Agency</a> (DIA) study at the time concluded, apparently by determining the chemicals used by looking at images of the victims, that it was in fact Iran that was responsible for the attack, an assessment which was used subsequently by the <a title="Central Intelligence Agency" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency">Central Intelligence Agency</a> (CIA) for much of the early 1990's. The CIA's senior political analyst for the Iran-Iraq war, Stephen C. Pelletiere, co-authored an unclassified analysis of the war <a title="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/docs/3203/" href="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/docs/3203/">[1]</a> which contained a brief summary of the DIA study's key points. In a <a title="January 31" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/January_31">January 31</a>, <a title="2003" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/2003">2003</a> New York Times <a title="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60816FC3D5C0C728FDDA80894DB4044 82" href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60816FC3D5C0C728FDDA80894DB4044 82">[2]</a> opinion piece, Pelletiere summarized the DIA's findings and noted that because of the DIA's conclusion there was not sufficient evidence to definitively determine whether Iraq or Iran was responsible. Pelletiere also felt that the administration of <a title="George W. Bush" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/George_W._Bush">George W. Bush</a> was not being forthright when squarely placing blame on Iraq, since it contradicted the conclusion of the DIA study. However the DIA's final position on the attack was in fact much less certain than this preliminary report suggests, with its final conclusions, in June 2003, asserting just that there was insufficient evidence, but concluding that "Iraq ..used chemical weapons against Kurdish civilians in 1988" <a title="http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Pentagon/us-dod-iraqchemreport-060703.htm" href="http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Pentagon/us-dod-iraqchemreport-060703.htm">[3]</a>. The CIA altered its position radically in the late 1990s and cited Halabja frequently in its evidence of WMD before the 2003 invasion <a title="http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq wmd/Iraq Oct 2002.htm#01" href="http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm#01">[4]</a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack" target="_blank">Hmmmmmmmmm...</a>Of course, that's not to say Iraq wasn't responsible.  But if they were...[QUOTE]Another extensive analysis of the incident is contained in a post <a title="http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2002/msg00034.html" href="http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2002/msg00034.html">[5]</a> to the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq <a title="Listserv" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Listserv">listserv</a> by Cambridge political theorist Glen Rangwala. Rangwala describes how the attack followed the occupation of the city by Iranian and pro-Iranian forces, leading to the conclusion that the gassing was an attack on these forces by the Iraqis. Rangwala also cites studies done by non-governmental organizations that concluded different chemicals were used than the ones cited in the DIA study, although a 1991 DIA report stated that Iraq did also possess Hydrogen Cyanide gas supplied by the US. Rangwala's analysis effectively sums up the current prevailing view of the event, that Iraq was indeed responsible for the attack on Halabja, and that the DIA analysis is in error. This evidence backed up by extensive witness testimony gathered by organisations like <a title="Human Rights Watch" href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Human_Rights_Watch">Human Rights Watch</a><a title="http://hrw.org/reports/1993/iraqanfal/ANFAL3.htm" href="http://hrw.org/reports/1993/iraqanfal/ANFAL3.htm">[6]</a> and Indict (www.indict.org.uk), has, more recently, added to the growing evidence that the initial DIA a

TheMojoPin

11-27-2005, 05:08 PM

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujail" target="_blank">WF, this is the event you were talking about...</a>Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's not an evil bastard.  It's just sad so many other people happily enabled him to be the most evil bastard he could be.

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Yerdaddy

11-28-2005, 06:27 AM

quoted Saddam as saying, "Reagan and me, good.... The Clinton, he's okay. The Bush father, son, no good."Saddam Husssien is Superstar????? Who'd a thunk?!

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Bulldogcakes

11-28-2005, 03:46 PM

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Bulldogcakes

11-28-2005, 03:55 PM

quote:<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujail">WF, this is the event you were talking about...</a>Don't
get me wrong, I'm not saying he's not an evil bastard. It's just sad so
many other people happily enabled him to be the most evil bastard he
could be.

 Yes, absolutely. And they did so because . . . .  . .  . ?  

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TheMojoPin

11-28-2005, 08:33 PM

Because such support in theory helped our short term goals in the region with zero thought to the longterm consequences.The countries with the most to lose from a Saddam trial that REALLY breaks down his behind the scenes deals?  The US, France and Russia.  Their governments backed Hussein like it was nobody's business, from cash to training to weapons to chemicals to nuclear power...

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Se7en

12-06-2005, 02:51 PM

At first I was distressed when I heard Clark had joined Saddam's defense team.  I thought to myself, "THAT asshole?"  And then I thought, "Well, Saddam's pretty anti-American himself, so Clark is a good fit...."  And then I thought about how the terrorists are killing off Saddam's defense team, and that gave me hope.

Bulldogcakes

12-06-2005, 04:27 PM

quote:Because such support in theory helped our short term goals in the region with zero thought to the longterm consequences.The
countries with the most to lose from a Saddam trial that REALLY breaks
down his behind the scenes deals? The US, France and Russia. Their
governments backed Hussein like it was nobody's business, from cash to
training to weapons to chemicals to nuclear power... Mojo, mention the key name in relation to your previous post. I'm not letting you off the hook that easy.   Iran.  And they're no problem whatsoever, even now. Right? 

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TheMojoPin

12-07-2005, 06:23 AM

I have no clue what you're even attempting to ask or point out.

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Yerdaddy

12-08-2005, 04:59 AM

I think he's trying to tell you that, although he's not gay, he does find you, like this photo: <img height="216" src="http://www.x-entertainment.com/stuff/monkey5.jpg" width="288" border="0" /> oddly hot.

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high fly

12-18-2005, 10:22 AM

Things in this trial would sure go into the shitter if it turns out that when Saddam was using the WMD so thoughtfully provided by Ronald "Dutch" Reagan to gas his own people, that Saddam had executive immunity.  

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