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asayresk

11-21-2005, 04:16 PM

I personally think its a joke.

Evilpete

11-21-2005, 07:14 PM

they used to have a policy that was really strict in the 90s, but
they claim they got rid of it when "busines went down and it got too
expensive" (AKA HHH was going to get caught and that couldn't happen) anyone notice it wasn't testing immediatly, since everyone but the women division would be in big trouble 

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King Imp

11-21-2005, 08:44 PM

Here is the video if you haven't seen it yet. WWE drug policy (http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/494606/1515310/1620152/drugpolicy?section=/) Personally, I think it's a joke as well. Especially the steroid part. I mean, come on! Half the roster is on that shit, including Vince himself and considering how Vince loves the huge guys there is no way he gonna let them stop doing it.

JustJon

11-22-2005, 09:18 AM

I think the policy reads "We got busted in the 80s, cracked down in the 90s, ignore it in the 00s" 

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King Imp

11-23-2005, 10:34 AM

Okay, let me ask this here since I basically got ripped a new one for even suggesting it elsewhere. Do you guys believe Batista is taking steroids or not? Personally, I just can't imagine anyone getting that big and ripped without some sort of "assistance."

JustJon

11-23-2005, 11:30 AM

Anyone who says Batista isn't on the juice is either ignorant or stupid.  You don't get that big without enhancement. 

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King Imp

11-23-2005, 03:12 PM

Thank you! Finally, a voice of reason.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-23-2005, 03:53 PM

HHH Was probably on the juice, look at him in 96-97,  and look at him now. It looks like hes gettin a bit pudgy around the waist

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marcpsych

11-23-2005, 03:53 PM

I definitely think that Batista is on steroids, along with a significant portion of the rest of the roster.  Why are we to think that the steroid problem has subsided, esp. since everyone fits into that "huge and ripped" mold now more than ever before? Batista is ridiculously huge, as was Hulk Hogan, as was Sid Vicious, as was Lex Luger...you get the picture.Also, it is my opinion that the back muscle tear that Batista suffered after being chokeslammed by both Kane and Big Show at a recent Smackdown taping and that will likely keep him out of Survivor Series (WWE does not want to admit this because of potential loss of PPV revenue, so they are having him now injured in the storyline as well and will likely pull him out at the very last minute) was actually due to muscle tearing that is common to steroid users, where the muscle becomes too large and heavy for the bone structure to support (the bone frame is too small for the chemically enhanced muscle).  This sort of thing was described at length in the current issue of ESPN Magazine, where there is a huge expose of the steroid problem in baseball and how deeply it really runs.It really seems that steroid use is a huge problem in professional wrestling, esp. with wrestlers trying to live up to Vince McMahon's "look and style over substance" approach.  Even the smaller guys are not exempt from scrutiny - look at what happened to the Dynamite Kid because of prolonged steroid use.  Even Ric Flair admitted in his book to taking steroids for multiple years bak in the day, to "get that look."  Sakes, even Harly Race tried steroids for a short time while in the WWF (and then stopped taking them when he realized that the risks outweight the benefits).  I really hate to say this, and it hurts to say this when you are a fan of certain wrestlers and wrestling as a whole, but no one is beyond suspicion for me in WWE at this point.I hate saying this (and I know I may be condemned as a heretic for even entertaining these thoughts), but even Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle look like they're on The Juice.  They probably feel that they need to do it to stay competitive in the land of the giants.  If you look at Benoit, while he is still an awesome performer and not a giant by any means, he definitely appears more bulky and "inflated" than he has in the past (look at a closeup of his face and head, and take a listen to how defensive Benoit got when Josh Matthews commented about how much bigger he is now during the DVD commentary for one of his Japan matches).  Also, Kurt Angle looks like a monster compared to how he looked when wrestling as an amateur, or during his 1996 ECW appearance.This whole new policy thing definitely seems like a sham to appease those calling for increased scrutiny after Eddie Guerrero's unfortunate death.  They will probably crack down on street drugs and prescription abuse, but I can't imagine them really doing anything about performance enhancers, unless they are ready for much smaller wrestlers, which I doubt.<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetmarcpsych2.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

Evilpete

11-23-2005, 07:26 PM

well said, Benoit and ANgle do look like they are on the juice, and
it sounds dumb but it could to help build up the muscles around their
fragile necks.  And can you blame the guys, they aren't pushed and
are the two best wrestlers in the company, but dunbases like orton (who
looks like he went off the juice since his shoulder surgery-look at the
pics), Masters(bater) get handed high spots on teh roster. even
snitsky was clearly on the juice, the zits on his back, and now he
looks mushy and not solid like he did when he started in the fed.   

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NITRON

11-23-2005, 09:16 PM

I first noticed this story on the wackbag.com under the "Sports" message boards...I wanted to post this as a new discussion titled "unofficial deathwatch"...Kind of taken aback since it wasn't mentioned on this site, but since a related issue is being discussed, the two seem to have some connection. quote: -- In the latest PWTorch newsletter, editor Wade Keller states quite bluntly that there is apparently a top wrestler wrestling in the WWE today who’s considered to be on an “unofficial death watch”. He doesn’t go on to further elaborate on who this wrestler is, but he does go on to mention how people need to do what it takes to keep him alive, even at the “expense of box office receipts, storyline interruptions” and more. -- The deathwatch, which is apparently no secret to most within WWE, is still possibly unknown to Vince McMahon, who would need to be informed. The un-named wrestler, should he pass away, would make the coverage of the shocking and tragic news this week of the passing of Eddie Guerrero look minor by comparison, due to his credentials. -- This has been my first news post since the passing of Eddie Guerrero, and I would like to personally send my condolences to Eddie’s family and friends, both in and out of wrestling.*-- stopprint -* I'm curious who this person could be...There's a morbidness to this considering recent tragic events...and the steroid controversy...This person must have been/is dominant enough to have held either of the WWE Championships is my guess <img src="http://www.geocities.com/nitron11226/voltron1.jpg" border="0" />

This message was edited by NITRON on 11-24-05 @ 1:28 AM

CYYYFYYY

11-24-2005, 08:56 AM

<div>Most of these guys are on the juice.  They are constantly on the road.  It is impossible to keep up such physiques when you are constantly on the rode.  You do not have to be as big as Masters to be on the juice.  Look at Beniot, he has veins coming out of his head.  This is not normal uncles you are on the juice</div>

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cougarjake13

11-24-2005, 09:03 AM

my first thought was that it would be hogan but the article mentioned disrupting storylines so it couldn't be him so my next guess would triple h

DarkHippie

11-24-2005, 10:38 AM

Flair has got to be on the death watch.  He looks like he's dying every time he wrestles

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Dirtybird12

11-24-2005, 07:30 PM

flair wont die until vince tells him to. I bet Ken Patera never juiced. 

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DJEvelEd

11-24-2005, 07:35 PM

Iron Mike Sharpe never took a shot in the ass...

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marcpsych

11-24-2005, 07:50 PM

Iron Mike Sharpe was definitely not on the Juice, cause if he was, his injured forearm would have taken less than 10 years to heal, and he would not have had to wear that black forearm cast all the time.Chances of Ric Flair speaking his mind about the true state of the WWE...0%.Chances of Ric Flair ultimately coming out on top of his feud with HHH...0%.Chances of Vince McMahon seriously confronting the schedule and steroid issues at the present time...0%.<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetmarcpsych.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

CYYYFYYY

11-24-2005, 09:20 PM

I was reading a magazine of Wreslting Illustrated.   There was a pic of Snisky.  He has more pimples on his back than a teenage nerd.

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Crippler

11-24-2005, 11:17 PM

My guess for wrestler on the death watch is Angle.

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NITRON

11-25-2005, 05:33 AM

I've been to a few websites where Angle was got suggested a few times. I'm wondering if you're just  "guessing". 

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King Imp

11-25-2005, 09:29 AM

Personally, I don't think Angle is considered to be "bigger" than Eddie in the pro wrestling world, so that wouldn't make sense to say it would make Eddie's death pale in comparison. I originally thought it might be Austin considering he's always drinking, but the part about storyline interruption wouldn't make sense. Flair though, that definitely makes sense. After Hogan, he is probably the biggest name in wrestling and considering he always looks like he's about to drop dead when he gets worked up and turns purple, I wouldn't be surprised if he is the one on the death watch. 

This message was edited by King Imp on 11-25-05 @ 1:29 PM

asayresk

11-25-2005, 09:43 AM

It can't be Ric Flair, it has to be someone in there prime.

JustJon

11-25-2005, 12:35 PM

quote:HHH Was probably on the juice, look at him in 96-97, and look at him now. It looks like hes gettin a bit pudgy around the waist

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you do steroids and don't work out as much, you gain flab like HHH
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Personally, I
don't think Angle is considered to be "bigger" than Eddie in the pro
wrestling world, so that wouldn't make sense to say it would make
Eddie's death pale in comparison. 
 See, the problem is you are limiting yourself to the
business.  Imagine if you were at a newspaper and Angle
dies.  Your headline "WWE Kills Olympic Gold Medalist" would
destroy the business. 


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WindowSill

11-25-2005, 03:03 PM

If its not Kurt Angle, Im gonna guess John Cena...no evidence or nothing, just if were goin on clues alone... 

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cougarjake13

11-25-2005, 04:09 PM

quote: -- In the latest PWTorch newsletter, editor Wade Keller states quite bluntly that there is apparently a top wrestler wrestling in the WWE today who’s considered to be on an “unofficial death watch”. He doesn’t go on to further elaborate on who this wrestler is, but he does go on to mention how people need to do what it takes to keep him alive, even at the “expense of box office receipts, storyline interruptions” and more. -- The deathwatch, which is apparently no secret to most within WWE, is still possibly unknown to Vince McMahon, who would need to be informed. The un-named wrestler, should he pass away, would make the coverage of the shocking and tragic news this week of the passing of Eddie Guerrero look minor by comparison, due to his credentials. -- This has been my first news post since the passing of Eddie Guerrero, and I would like to personally send my condolences to Eddie’s family and friends, both in and out of wrestling.*-- stopprint -*   “expense of box office receipts, storyline interruptions The un-named wrestler, should he pass away, would make the coverage of the shocking and tragic news this week of the passing of Eddie Guerrero look minor by comparison, due to his credentialsif this story is to be true then there's only a select few who fit the phrase above in redTrip H, Flair, Batista, Cena, Angle, HBK, and Benoitangle and benoit are obviously bigger then they used to be and really who isn't but they're not huge or ripped like a batista or trips so i'm still going to go with Trips being the guy. Cena and batista are still young and probably haven't been using the juice for as long as say trips has.unfortunately this will all be speculation until the guy mentioned eventually dies, hopefully he won't but the odds aren't good

cougarjake13

11-25-2005, 04:17 PM

i didnt think it was necessary to start a new thread sowith the injury to Batista and the rumors that guerrero was supposed to take the belt from him is there any chance that orton wins the belt tonight in the no holds barred match??i know a few days ago they had a pic on wwe.com of kane and big show chokeslamming him near ringside at the smackdown tapings on tuesday so i guess it's possible they interfered and helped orton win the belt

cougarjake13

11-25-2005, 04:37 PM

man i'm starting to feel like spoon here with post after post but another best of series for the usa title with booker t. will they ever stop rehashing old storylines ? and my guess is that booker t will lose this series too.

Dirtybird12

11-26-2005, 12:50 AM

Scott Steiner Found dead in Seattle-not really. but i could see that headline and not really be shocked.

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11-26-2005, 07:33 AM

quote: Scott Steiner Found dead in Seattle-not really. but i could see that headline and not really be shocked.<a href="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fr.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.perrynoid.com/" target="blank">Perrynoid</a> you could pretty much say that about 99% of the wwe

DirtyJersey

11-26-2005, 09:34 AM

HHH is definately not as cut as he used to be. Although he always struck me as the kind of person who never really got completely off the juice.  Also, Ric Flair should be cloned.

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King Imp

11-26-2005, 04:38 PM

Maybe Vince is on the death watch.

WindowSill

11-27-2005, 04:26 AM

I just dont see the son in law of Vince McMahon being THAT guy. Is Batista really that big already? Bigger than Eddie? 

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cougarjake13

11-27-2005, 06:21 AM

quote: Maybe Vince is on the death watch. its a possiblity but if you go by the article it says at the risk of box office receipts and current storylinesvince is not part of any storyline and I doubt that any one would consider vince a huge box office draw so its gotta be a everyday wrestler that currently involved in storylines and is considered a huge box office draw that would dwarf eddie's death, as i said before that's a very short list.

NITRON

11-27-2005, 06:45 AM

I know Eddie Guerrero was WWE champion once. So this wrestler must have been WWE champion more than once and a main eventer.

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cougarjake13

11-27-2005, 07:10 AM

quote:  I know Eddie Guerrero was WWE champion once. So this wrestler must have been WWE champion more than once and a main eventer.<img src="http://www.geocities.com/nitron11226/voltron1.jpg" border="0" /> and the only ones that fit that mold are trip h , flair, hbk, or angleand to a lesser extent because of their current popularity cena and batista

NITRON

11-29-2005, 07:15 AM

I am more doubtful of HHH as this person and think he should be eliminated. With his influence in WWE,  I think there is less pressure on him to act self-destructively. 

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cougarjake13

11-29-2005, 12:07 PM

true trips has been looking flabby lately 

ShelleBink

11-29-2005, 12:16 PM

quote:Cena and batista are still
young and probably haven't been using the juice for as long as say
trips has. 

 Just a minor point
out of this.  Cena is young, but Batista is pushing or already is
forty.  *IF* Batista is the one juicing, he might have been doing
it as long as Trips.

cougarjake13

11-29-2005, 12:20 PM

damn batista is pushing forty??? shit he doesn;t lokk it i was thinking late 20's early 30's but if that is the case then he could definitely be the guy

King Imp

11-29-2005, 12:47 PM

Based on this news (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/66/Topic/47698/page/Woooooooooh.htm), I definitely am leaning towards Flair as being Mr. Death Watch.

NITRON

11-30-2005, 06:36 AM

you're saying Ric Flair's the one because of this non-wrestling incident? He's not the only wrestler to ever get arrested. Explain more.<img height="145" src="http://www.geocities.com/nitron11226/voltron1.jpg" width="190" border="0" />

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King Imp

11-30-2005, 07:42 AM

quote:  you're saying Ric Flair's the one because of this non-wrestling incident? He's not the only wrestler to ever get arrested. Explain more.   No, I'm not saying it's because of this one incident. I'm adding that to the list of other factors. - He's always blading and juicing heavily in his matches, which as proven by an Eddie Guerrero match where he went into shock because of major blood loss had to be rushed to the hospital, is not healthy for one's body. - He always looks like he's about to have a stroke or heart attack in the ring when he goes nuts and turns purple. - He's obviously got some rage issues as shown by that article. -He's not exactly young.  Hell, it's all just a guessing game at this point, but I still say Flair is a more logical choice for this Death Watch than Batista or Cena. They are nowhere near considered as big as Eddie, so it wouldn't come close to making the same kind of news. 

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cougarjake13

11-30-2005, 03:26 PM

one person that hasn't been mentioned as a possiblity is the Undertaker he is big enough in the wrestling world maybe bigger then guerrero

AngelofLight

12-01-2005, 12:04 PM

Trust me Taker does not need roids. He is big enough as it is. He does not show veins coming out of his head. He is just huge.

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Iamnotatool

12-01-2005, 12:30 PM

Flair's wife is accusing him of abusing roids, alcohol, and her.  Could be Natch.

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cougarjake13

12-01-2005, 12:44 PM

quote: Trust me Taker does not need roids. He is big enough as it is. He does not show veins coming out of his head. He is just huge. UNDERTAKER RULES!!! REST IN PEACE! i wasn't necessarily saying that it was him just merely saying that he has the stature to overshadow guerrero he doesnt look like he has massive veins on his body but he is heavily tatted so it might not be noticeable.but my point was merely that no one had mentioned him yet and not that it definitely had to be him

ADF

12-01-2005, 01:45 PM

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NITRON

12-02-2005, 04:14 AM

I know agree that Flair is a "candidate" for this..."observation". He was a 16 time NWA/WCW/WWE Champion and been in the industry for at least 30 years makes him a bigger name than Eddie Guerrero.

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asayresk

12-08-2005, 03:37 PM

I believe the wrestler that is on the death wacth is Kevin Nash, he did have a recent heart problem.

cougarjake13

12-09-2005, 01:24 PM

nash may have the noteirity to be the guy but he hardly wrestles and as far as i know he isn't in any storylines

Crippler

12-09-2005, 03:54 PM

nash may have the noteirity to be the guy but he hardly wrestles and as far as i know he isn't in any storylines...nor is he in the company in question. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=spe5150" border="0" />

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AngelofLight

12-10-2005, 04:34 PM

Having seen those Tatoos arms up close..Again I say no.

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cougarjake13

12-11-2005, 04:39 AM

once again it's sad to say but we might never know who this person is until he dies

cougarjake13

12-21-2005, 02:15 PM

it may or not be related to steroids but could ted dibiase be the next to go???<a href="http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/dibiase">http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/dibiase</a>