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HBox

10-18-2005, 12:22 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2195141" target="_blank">The NBA has instituted an off the court dress code.</a>I
FUCKING HATE DRESS CODES!!!!!!! And let's just be honest here, this is
completely and totally aimed at ridding the game of the culture of a
certain group of players. No judgements, but let's just be honest and
upfront about it. They think doing this will help them appeal more to
certain white people. 
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Snoogans

10-18-2005, 12:26 PM

"I don't see it happening unless every NBA player is given a stipend to buy clothes." 
-- Marcus Camby (who will make $7.15 million this season) on the NBA invoking a new dress code

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10-18-2005, 12:35 PM

I think Marcus Camby needs a stipend for shoes for all the times he puts his foot in his mouth.  I do not like the idea of a dress code either, however, I do hope that having these high paid young men wear suits and ties will present a better image to the kids that idolize them.  Anything would be better than seeing them walking around in jeans half falling off of their behinds and doorags.  Times may change but certain standards must remain.

DJEvelEd

10-18-2005, 12:39 PM

The whole "Thug mentality" and shitty attitude of players is why I stopped watching the NBA. It's no longer a team sport. It's all about me me me and talking in 3rd person. Fuck the NBA and I hope they fine the fuck out of these gangster rappers turned NBA stars.If the Yankees can look nice on team trips, ANYBODY can!CHRIST!!! One of the BEST dressed people on the planet is a black man going to church on Sunday! Can't they remember that far back?Fuckin overpaid assholes.

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10-18-2005, 12:40 PM

Man, I thought this was gonna say they were bringing back the short shorts.Nuts.AND HOW!!!

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10-18-2005, 10:48 PM

They think doing this will help them appeal more to certain white people. In the law enforcement community.ZING!

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10-19-2005, 03:58 AM

quote: doing this will help them appeal more to certain white people. <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2195141" target="_blank"></a>Seems like there has always been more white folk in the stands than black folk.Though I haven't been to an NBA game since the Washington Bullets played the Boston Celtics in 1982. So what do I know?I was at Redskins Park the other day & it occured to me that the darker players dress like hip hop stars off the field & the lighter folks dress like...normal.     

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El Mudo

10-19-2005, 07:00 AM

The players are blaming the wrong people....Its the fault of their own Union...who accpeted this as part of the collective bargaining agreement without complaint, and now thier constituents are pissed...But the NBA is now paying for embracing the hip hop culture....because its scared away the rich white people who they need to come to games...This isn't about race (sorry Stephen Jackson) its about the money...just like everything else...I'm white and I just like basketball...I could care less what the players look like...<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=BigCoop" border="0" /> Powered by <a href="http://www.cgispy.com/">CGISpy.com</a> .... We haven't seen the sun since '71Thanks Monsterone And Fallon

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Def Dave in SC

10-19-2005, 11:37 AM

The league (and its owners) try to sell the NBA and its several
hundred dollar floor seats to rich, usually white, men.  The idea
is that floor seats to an NBA game can be a great way to entertain a
client or to reward an exceptional employee, etc.  Basically they
sell the season tickets to the die-hards and to businesses. The
players are selling to the kids who listen to rap, and are into that
whole hip-hop/thug lifestyle.  These are not necessarily actual
thugs, just people who like 50 cent. Allen Iverson makes money when
kids buy his shoes and apparel.   The problem
is that Iverson makes his money, at least directly, when he sells his
gear, not when rich white people go to the game.  Although, these
people are the ones who actually pay his salary, he makes so much
fucking money outside of the arena, its disgusting.  His NBA
salary is only a small fraction of his yearly income.  His
argument is that by "selling out" or by not keeping it "real" he is
going to lose the image that has made him millions upon millions in
endorsements and whatnot. The league is absolutely
right, though, without the expensive floor/luxury suite tickets being
sold, eventually the game will face financial ruin.  The league is
only telling them to wear sportcoats when they are inactive due to
injury, no hats or sunglasses inside the arena or in the locker room,
and no garish chains worn outside the clothes.  Basically business
casual.   Yeah, it is going after a certain
culture which is predominantly black, but what is the worst that can
happen?  Hip-hop culture will not be destroyed because basketball
players have to wear a button-down shirt to work.  If anything, it
will show some of these kids that it is ok to assimilate into the
"white" world.  It will show them that in order to be successfull
in the world, at some point you have to leave the whole gangster
mentality behind.  Unless of course you are trying to be a
successful gangster. 


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10-19-2005, 01:58 PM

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mdr55

10-19-2005, 02:31 PM

David Stern don't care about Black People!

Papa_Burgundy

10-19-2005, 03:33 PM

quote: <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2195141" target="_blank">The NBA has instituted an off the court dress code.</a>I FUCKING HATE DRESS CODES!!!!!!! And let's just be honest here, this is completely and totally aimed at ridding the game of the culture of a certain group of players. No judgements, but let's just be honest and upfront about it. They think doing this will help them appeal more to certain white people.  i totally agree. this is fucking bullshit.  it's just one more way of the rich white guys trying to control their black workers.  who gives a fuck what they wear to the stadium?  who even sees them?  these rich owners love the money these guys bring in but they are scared of the people they're involved w/.  well fuck them.and people keep dropping the old, "it's their company so they can run it how they want.  if they don't like it they don't have to play for them"yeah that makes sense.  because if they don't play basketball in the nba they can play somewhere else for millions.  oh wait, they can't.  it's not like some corporate company that if they don't like it they can go work for another one, this is it.and the people who make the point that "their own workplace has a dress code why shouldn't they too" are morons.  they play fucking basketball.  have you ever been to a gym?  the people working at a gym don't wear fucking suits, they wear gym clothes.  because it's a gym.  these guys are going to play basketball, they should be able to wear whatever they want.i really hope someone fights this.  at the least they should follow the dress code but wear a sign that says "slave" or something just to piss off stern.  so yeah dress codes really piss me off.  they shouldn't be used in schools either, but i guess it's a great way to get kids to conform to what you want.

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mdr55

10-19-2005, 04:20 PM

If the players don't like it, they can go someplace else to work
where no one cares what they wear. Heck...they'll fit right in working
at Sports Authority or something. So stop their bitch ass crying! If
they want to work in the NBA they should toe the line. If
not....there's always Europe. 
 When I'm at the office wearing a suit and tie,
while I'm in the office I usually wear a sports jersey at the office.
When I go out of the office to meet people (like at the hospital or
court), you beat damn well I chuck that jersey and put my suit jacket
back on.

JPMNICK

10-19-2005, 05:05 PM

I HATE how sportcenter and ESPN is trying to turn this racial. If they made this rule for baseball or hockey, no one would bring up the black issue. Guess what, the white players have to follow the same rules! this is for everyone!

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HBox

10-19-2005, 05:38 PM

If they made this rule for baseball or hockey, no one would bring up the black issue.I
think that's one of the points. There isn't any kind of league wide
dress code for those leagues. It's no coinicidence that it's happening
to the sport most dominated by black athletes and black culture. I
don't think David Stern is out to get the black people, but the black
culture is a turn off to a substantial portion of the audience, and I
do certainly believe there is something racial there.BTW, has
anyone ever seen hockey players and how they dress off ice? If hockey
was more popular you'd see what kind of slobs they are. They generally
don't dress in any way that can be considered "classy" or "professional"
yet I'd be inclined to think that it wouldn't be a turn off. I'd
actually think it would be a positive with the general public, they'd
be seen as the "everyday man" and "blue collar." So what's the
difference? Of course, nobody likes hockey so it's a moot
point. 


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JPMNICK

10-19-2005, 07:23 PM

hockey all makes 1/10 less than basketball, so in terms of pro leagues, they are blue collar. if these guys had regular jobs like most people on this board, they would have a dress code. their union OK'd it. that should be the end of this.not to mention, a bunch of these guys went to private school where they had dress codes and they somehow managed to live through that. 

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HBox

10-19-2005, 07:33 PM

hockey all makes 1/10 less than basketball, so in terms of pro leagues, they are blue collar.The
minimum salary is still in the hundreds of thousands, and there are
hundreds of millionaires in the league. That is not blue collar, and
even if it was, is that an excuse? Dress codes are are only for the
rich? Then why are shlubs making $30,000-$50,000 having to wear a suit
everyday?their union OK'd it. that should be the end of this.Well,
that's why they'll have to deal with it. Doesn't make it right, doesn't
mean they have to like it, and doesn't mean they can't
complain.not to mention, a bunch of
these guys went to private school where they had dress codes and they
somehow managed to live through that.Yeah,
because they were children. But people get tired of being treated like
children while they are still children. 


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Papa_Burgundy

10-20-2005, 02:46 PM

quote: I HATE how sportcenter and ESPN is trying to turn this racial. If they made this rule for baseball or hockey, no one would bring up the black issue. Guess what, the white players have to follow the same rules! this is for everyone! hold the phone, there are white people in basketball now?  besides the coaches and ref's and owners you mean?  no, couldnt' be

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10-20-2005, 02:53 PM

I find this amusing.  It's still not enough to make me watch Basketball though.  What a bland sport.

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10-20-2005, 02:58 PM

you dont like any sports, Moe 

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Def Dave in SC

10-20-2005, 04:43 PM

The hockey argument doesnt really work for me 
 The NHL tried to appeal to the same crowd that the NBA is going
after and failed miserably.  The reason hockey fans like hockey is
because they can identify with the players.  The average
ticket-buying, jersey-wearing fan can connect with the guys who walk
into the arena in street clothes and play hard for 3 periods.  If
Khabibulin or Heatley start wearing extra long tees and gigantic
diamond encrusted chains, you better believe that the fans will demand
a similar dress code.  As far as the NBA, I can
definatley understand the argument.  These guys are grown men and
don't want to be told how to dress, and like I said, I can
understand.   But, I really can't get too upset by it. 
The dress code is extremely lenient.  Business casual can be nice
jeans and a polo with leather shoes, or shirt and sport jacket. 
Nobody is being forced (by the league) to wear a three-piece
suit.  Some indivdual teams require more, but thats only a few
teams.  Like I mentioned earlier, the reason
the NHL was in such trouble for so long was because the fans no longer
connected to the players.  The vast majority of ticket holders at
NBA games are professional white men, and they simply don't connect to
the players.  Its not racial, at least for most fans, its simply
cultural.   And lets not get too worked
up.  These are guys who are making hundreds of thousands if not
millions of dollars playing sports.  God forbid they have to wear
a jacket to work. 

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10-20-2005, 04:46 PM

quote: you dont like any sports, Moeyou dont like any sports, Moe  <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=Snoogans194" border="0" /> Yea, but even I can get interested in a Football game from time to time.  Maybe a Yankees game.  Basketball is just fucking boring.  Run over here, make a basket, run over there.  Yawn.  The whole game comes down to a few important steals and shit like that, which I could get in the Sports Highlights.No thanks, you can have it. 

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El Mudo

10-20-2005, 09:32 PM

I disagree Dave...Hockey hurt itself through greed...the owners got the brilliant idea it was a good idea to generate revenue through expansion, which only hurt the league, plus an out of whack salary structure where guys like Martin LaPointe were making like 8 milly and scoring 10 goals....Plus things like the neutral zone trap and the left wing lock slowed the game down so much and the players got so big it was hurting the game...The only way I can see where hockey fans lost a connection to the players was with all the rampant thuggery and overtly violent acts courtesy of guys like Marty McSorley and Todd Bertuzzi and Bryan Marchment, who really really hurt the game and its image majorly...The bottom line is...the are no "blue collar" sports any more, where the "average joe" can connect with the players...it costs a small fortune for a family just to go to a game...the only sport where a blue collar atmosphere really still exists is baseball...and that's cause you can to go a game and spend about 50 bucks in toto....The fans that fill arenas consistently are rich white guys, because they are the only ones who can afford to go to games on a regular basis....I was never really into basketball as a kid, i followed it occasionally, but with me now going to Maryland combined with last year's NHL Lockout and the reemergence of the Washington Wizards as a basketball team have all combined to make me one of the 16 remaining NBA fans on earth...

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10-21-2005, 06:48 AM

Your absolutely right, Mudo. And as one of the last 16 NBA fans on
Earth, I see your alos a Bill Simmons fan.  I check his page
religiously, even though I HATE all things Boston.   I
won't agree that the average family can't go to NHL games.  I
think it was true pre-lockout, but it has changed.  I have only
gone to games in ATL since the lockout so I don't know the price
structures of every single team, but on the whole the game has become
much more affordable.  In ATL they have a huge block of $10 seats,
and the $35 and $55 seats regularly have specials running that cuts the
price way down.While I'll agree that there are no "blue collar"
athletes, I do think that there are athletes that the blue collar fan
can relate to.  Most NHL stars, with some notable exceptions,
don't act like spoiled brats the way a lot of other pro athletes
do.  This isnt the only reason that I think these people relate to
the players, but I don't feel like writing a dissertation.  At
least not today. So look out for that sometime soon. 

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Knowledged_one

10-21-2005, 06:58 AM

For every Allen Iverson and Marcus Camby complaining there are more players who arent complaining.  Shaq will be in a suit, Antwaan Jamison will be in a suit, Jerry Stackhouse will be in a suit.These guys are in a business that is paid by advertisers, and the advertisers won't put out money for the thug image.  I like what Ron Artest is going to do, miss a game he's gonna be out there in garish suits and such.  Allen Iverson doesn't like it because he plays to his thuggish lifestyle but there really arent many more who do this.Why do these guys think Puffy and Jay-Z don't wear thug clothes out, becasue these guys are businesses and have to represent themselves.  And lastly is it such a bad thing to have to wear jeans and a button up collarred shirt for 3 hours.

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10-21-2005, 07:05 AM

quote:<a target="_blank" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2195141">The NBA has instituted an off the court dress code.</a>I
FUCKING HATE DRESS CODES!!!!!!! And let's just be honest here, this is
completely and totally aimed at ridding the game of the culture of a
certain group of players. No judgements, but let's just be honest and
upfront about it. They think doing this will help them appeal more to
certain white people. 
  Begin your response here... yeah, lets be honest...basketball is entertainment.  entertainment is money.  basketball is BUSINESS.if
you get paid millions of dollars a year, stop being a pussy and fucking
follow the rules.  if you're culture prevents you from being
mature in making business decisions, then there is something wrong with
your culture.  at that point, the culture that elevates "being
your true self" above earning your living, then that is a pretty
fucking short sighted culture.I'm sure there are a lot of people
that would love to go to work in san francisco with a dildo hanging out
of their ass, but it's not an appropriate way to drive a school bus now
is it?

Doctor Manhattan

10-21-2005, 07:21 AM

Good for Stern, Hoo Hoo.It's his league, there's a dress code for when you're on the court, so now there's one for when you're on the bench. If he's paying you to represent your team and your league, you play by his rules, you don't like it you aren't being forced to stay and get your millions. Fuck you!You can still wear your fucking chains when you're on MTV Cribs or on a date with Mary Carey.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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JimBeam

10-21-2005, 07:24 AM

The players and anybody else can cry all they want about who this benefits but it comes down to the fact that it is large corporations that advertise and buy seating happen to be lead by white guys that wear suits to work.So you can have it that Budweiser decides not to pay say 100 million a year to advertise, thus costing the NBA money, making them have to charge more for the seats that the normal fan buys because now the Bud reps arent there or you can lose that Bud money and not charge the fans more and have the players make $6.50 an hour.Personally I like the second idea.

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DJEvelEd

10-23-2005, 06:05 AM

Any NBA player with balls would get a tattoo of David Stern suckin a big cock.What could the league do about that? Make them cover it up? WWRD? (What Would Rodman Do?)Get more cocks! Cover your entire body with cocks and obscenity.

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10-23-2005, 07:11 AM

quote: CHRIST!!! One of the BEST dressed people on the planet is a black man going to church on Sunday! Fuckin overpaid assholes.

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