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Heavy

07-22-2005, 12:27 PM

First off the Schedual changes, which I love:From NHL.comNEW YORK (July 22, 2005) - The National Hockey League is returning with an exciting new regular-season schedule format that emphasizes division rivalries.Format <ul><li>Each club will play eight games against each of its four division rivals (32 total). </li><li>Each club will play four games against each of the 10 non-division clubs in its conference (40 total). </li><li>Each club will play 10 inter-conference games, hosting one game each against all five clubs from a designated division and traveling for one game each against all five clubs from a different division. For the 2005-06 season, Northeast Division clubs will host the Pacific Division and visit the Northwest; Atlantic Division clubs will host the Northwest and visit the Central; and Southeast Division clubs will host the Central and visit the Pacific. Division vs. division assignments will rotate annually. </li></ul> Features <ul><li>The new schedule strengthens division rivalries; division rivals played each other six times under the previous schedule. </li><li>The new schedule maintains integrity of the conference-based playoff format; each club continues to play 40 games against non-division, intra-conference opponents. </li><li>The new schedule allows for continued exposure of teams and star players from the other conference. </li><li>The new schedule allows for more compelling television matchups, thanks to the combination of stronger division rivalries with continued intra- and inter-conference play. </li></ul>Now I'm waitintg for them to update offically the changes on NHL.com, but I'm sure theyre available on someother place.  We have a shootout and ZERO ties they say, plus they moved the net back and resticted goalies somewhat from playing the puck back there.  I think they did away sith the red line too

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WhistlePig

07-22-2005, 12:33 PM

I love the new schedule changes! It'll be like the old Patrick division days again.

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Fallon

07-22-2005, 12:35 PM

I'm happy with all of that. 

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Heavy

07-22-2005, 12:46 PM

From About.com<li>The two-line pass is legalized. The red line at center ice remains, but will be used for icing calls only. A pass from the defensive zone all the way to the opposing blue line will be allowed. This is already the rule in the NCAA, international hockey and Europe. The Case: The dreaded neutral zone trap is used to clog the ice and destroy hockey's entertainment value. With the longer pass, defending the neutral zone becomes harder. The game needs more breakaway passes and more speed. Impact: It’s supposed to open up the ice. Longer passes favor teams will speed and skill, creating quick attacks and more end-to-end action in general. Down Side: Some who have played in Europe say the two-line pass actually leads to a more conservative game: the defending team abandons any attempt at forechecking and spreads its players throughout the neutral zone, turning many long pass attempts into icing calls.  </li><li>Goaltender leg pads, blockers, catching gloves and jerseys are all cut down in size. The Case: Compared to his forebears, today's goalie fills far too much of the net. The men themselves are bigger. But one look at old game tapes confirms that equipment has expanded as well. The leg pad limit was increased from 10 to 12 inches in 1989. This proposal reverses that move. Impact: Hard to say. The excellence of today's goalies is mostly due to athleticism and good coaching. But smaller leg pads could expose more of the bottom half of the net. After a couple of months, the NHL's best shooters should be asked if they see any more room down low. Down Side: Some goaltenders have complained that smaller equipment leaves them more vulnerable to injury. The move will also fuel a persecution complex among goaltenders.  </li><li>Goaltenders cannot handle the puck behind the goal line, except in a restricted area. The Case: Goalies have too much control in their zone. They play the puck like defensemen, handing it off to teammates, shooting it out, making forward passes. They do so with immunity, protected by goaltender interference rules. Any player making contact with the goalie risks a two-minute penalty. Many say the goalie should be declared "fair game" - outside his crease, he should be treated as any other player, open to bodychecking and puck battles. But NHL GMs will never support a proposal that increases the injury risk for their most important assets. The new rule is meant to assist forecheckers. Most shoot-ins go around the boards or into the corner. If the goalie can't play it, the attackers have a better chance to retrieve the puck. Impact: A serious restriction on goalies would change the flow of the game. Teams that shoot the puck over the blue line and chase it would love this rule. But the NHL rule still allows goalies to play the puck directly behind the net. The restriction is a minor one and its effect on scoring will likely be negligible. Down Side: Defensemen won't like it, as they count on the goalie to help them win races for the puck. This rule also encourages a dump-and-chase attack, not always the most exciting style of hockey. </li>

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Fallon

07-22-2005, 01:06 PM

Down Side:
Some who have played in Europe say the two-line pass actually leads to
a more conservative game: the defending team abandons any attempt at
forechecking and spreads its players throughout the neutral zone,
turning many long pass attempts into icing calls.Icing will be at the refs discretion. So that shouldn't be a problem.Down Side:
Some goaltenders have complained that smaller equipment leaves them
more vulnerable to injury. The move will also fuel a persecution
complex among goaltenders.Bullshit. It won't cause more injury.If a defenseman can dive in front of a 90mph shot and be okay a goalie should do fine with two less inches. 


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07-22-2005, 05:48 PM

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newport king

07-22-2005, 06:59 PM

every rule change seems to be THE EXACT OPPOSITE of how the devils play their game. haha. no more trap and brodeur can't play the puck as much.

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Snoogans

07-22-2005, 07:43 PM

yea, and the Devils will still win, cause they were the only team
that basically operated within the rules of the new agreement the whole
time. the biggest payroll i've seen them have was like 42 mill, and
lamorello is the smartest guy ever. and also, these
rule changes wont affect brodeur. You can still play the puck behind
the net, it just has to be like directly behind, which is most of where
broduer handles it. Otherwise, his breakout passes come from in front
of the line alot, and now he can send them even longer. as
far as defense, it hurts alot, but helps some guys. It hurts most
defensemen, but a guy like neidermeyer will thrive. He is one of, if
not the fastest skater in the league, and so he will get to play alot
more in his comfort zone. With rafalski too if he is still on the team
(who knows) our D is pretty able to handle it. Let the slow guy be D
and let the faster guy float around and make plays by center ice. thats
what the devils did anyway 

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newport king

07-22-2005, 07:54 PM

im a devils fan, but i understand why most people hate this team and think they're style of play destroyed the league.

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HBox

07-22-2005, 07:55 PM

Let's not forget though, around the time the Devils
won the cup against the Stars they had one of the highest scoring teams
in the league those few years, leading the league in goals scored one
year. 

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Snoogans

07-22-2005, 08:24 PM

yea, mogilny had 50, plus alot of new guys, you dont think Lou is gonna
tailor the team around the new rules? He is the smartest mind in hockey 

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newport king

07-22-2005, 08:27 PM

i was listening to him on the FAN last week, and he didn't seem concerned at all. francesca was throwing all the new shit at him he as as cool as ever and saying "yeah we'll adapt and we'll be fine." he seriously might be the best GM in sports.

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07-22-2005, 08:40 PM

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07-22-2005, 10:48 PM

Well I am so stoked about Hockey coming back they could make a rule change saying it is ok for goalies to throw bricks at the fowards and I would be ok with it.  But seriously...I like the rule changes...to a point. Right now the only man to challenge just about any and every goalie record is Marty Broduer. And it looks like the league is trying to shut that down.Shootouts...while being VERY exciting, is un-nessecary. I was ok with 5 minute overtimes with just 4 players. (remember...that rule is only several years old)Now they are doing away with the two line pass...THANK GOD...but all it seems to be is an attempt at just speeding up the game. They think that if fans watch more 5-3 games instead of 2-1, 3-1, 1-0 games they will be less bored and more inclined to tune in. I am with Snoogs with the defensive stance. Guys like Scott Neidermyer will flourish because he is more of a speedy defenseman but people like Scott Stevens will be more effected by this style of play.I wonder if Messier will come back for his last season.   And I really hope hockey has learned it's lesson, because if not...in 6 years we will be paying to go see IHL AHL games. (Did anyone notice that Trenton won the championship in May?)

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TheGameHHH

07-22-2005, 11:47 PM

It hurts most defensemen, but a guy like neidermeyer will thrive. He is one of, if not the fastest skater in the league i think when he's been clocked he falls somewhere around 3rd or 4th fastest, but pretty much everyone considers him to be the best skating defensemen in the league. 

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Snoogans

07-23-2005, 08:52 AM

i know he won the thing one year at the all star skills, so he can definately fly 

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Evilpete

07-23-2005, 10:23 AM

I wish they went without the shootout and went with 3 points for a win, one for a tie, none for a loss, and no OT. Shootouts are crap, I remember MLS had it for a couple years and everyone HATED it 

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Snoogans

07-23-2005, 10:36 AM

I wish they went without the shootout and went with 3 points for a win, one for a tie, none for a loss, and no OT.you
have to think when you talk. The whole point of rule changes was to get
more offense and flow to the game. making regulationg wins 3 points
would cause teams with a 1 or 2 goal lead to play ZERO offense the
entire 3rd period so they get 3 points. that would have been counter
productive. THINK PEOPLE 

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Evilpete

07-23-2005, 11:36 AM

But wouldn't it also force the losing team to play harder for the 3 points rather than just playing to tie the game up? 

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Snoogans

07-23-2005, 11:42 AM

the whole point was getting things opened up and not trapping. So one
team tries while the leading team put 5 guys at the blue line and says
try to get past us. It would kill it 

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AppleBoy

07-25-2005, 05:34 AM

I don't think a lot of the rules changes are going to make that big of a difference in play.  There's still going to be trapping, left wing locks, etc.  Everyone will be clutching and grabbing all over the place by December in spite of the so called crack down on enforcing obstruction penalties (again).If anyone remembers indoor roller hockey (New Jersey Rockin' Rollers, Philadelphia Bulldogs, Montreal Roadrunners, Ottawa Loggers, etc.), they tried to place an emphasis on offense.  The constant end to end play was just as boring and monotonous as a defensive game. Shoot outs are awful.  I can live with a tie during the regular season.  As Evilpete mentioned, MLS had shoot outs for a while and they were a terrible way to end a game.  This rule will be repealed before they start negotiating the next CBA.If the NHL really wants to improve the game, they should just admit that they expanded too quickly and contract 4-6 teams.  If the game grows sufficently enough, then they can add add new teams or re-start some contracted ones as conditions dictate.

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Heavy

07-26-2005, 11:33 AM

I think the shootouts are gay.  I mean no ties is great but  4-4, 3-3, 2-2 play in OT is better.

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terryc35

07-26-2005, 11:47 AM

As die hard hockey fan I agree.....but most people I speak to wh don't like hockey, their main complaint is that it is boring and there is no scoring.  So from that perspective, I think the shootouts will bring more fans to the game.

Snoogans

07-26-2005, 11:50 AM

i love watching shootouts, they are alot of fun. I just dont really
want them deciding who wins a game, but at least they wont be in
playoff games 

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Crippler

07-26-2005, 11:53 AM

I agree that shootouts aren't the ideal way to end a game, and that there is NOTHING better than playoff hockey EXCEPT playoff hockey that goes into overtime.  But, the worst thing about the old NHL (in my opinion) was the ties.  And, since you can't have triple overtime games all season long if you want your players to survive, I can definitely get on board with the shootouts as long as it never infringes on the Playoffs. And let's not forget...the penalty shot (and now shootout) is often referred to as the most exciting single play in sports, so it only stand to improve the game, especially for the casual fan. <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/71172486.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" />

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Heavy

07-26-2005, 12:30 PM

Yea dude but thats because you never see them.  I agree the ties are horrible and want them gone.  I just dont get why they cant have 4-4 then 3-3 and even 2-2, youll get your breakaways then and the goals can actually count on the players stats.  For the love of God I pray they go to the 2 points for a win and leave it at that.  Otherwise teams are going to be breaking records like crazy, and theres really no reason to change it

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terryc35

07-26-2005, 12:39 PM

the shootouts aren't going to happen as often as you make it sound.  Figure most teams finish overtime in a tie 6-8 times a year.....it is less than 10% of the time

Heavy

07-26-2005, 01:57 PM

The avg per team was 11.3 ties.  which is a tie every 7.25 games.  Some teams had 18-20 ties like Minn and phoenix.  No team had less then 7 ties and 2/3's of the league  had more than 10.  If this season is like the last, we'll see 340 shootouts.   thats like 2 a night, but of course with more scoring your less likely to have ties anyway so that number would go down even without a shootout.     <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=JohneeWadd" border="0" /> A proportionate amount of props are equally distributed to my nigga's Fluff, Alexxis, CanOfSoup15, WWFallon and Katylina HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! 

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