Don's Wife Killed In Car Accident [Archive]

curtoid

07-11-2005, 07:27 AM

From dcrtv.comReports: Geronimo's Wife Killed In Car Wreck - 7/11 - Wild rumors going around. We have not been able to confirm them. But we have heard them from several independent sources. That Freda Source, the wife of WJFK-FM afternoon man Don Geronimo, was killed in an auto accident on Route 90 near Ocean City MD on Sunday. Apparently, neither her husband, whose real name is Mike Sorce, nor their son, Bart, were with her when the tragedy occurred, our sources say. Before marrying her husband, the then Freda Wright had worked at a number of radio stations in the DC area. More as we hear it..... Holy crap - I really hope this isn't truth. I had the pleasure of working with her back in 1992 when she volunteered with the Northern Virginia chapter of the Amercian Cancer Society and I thought she was very funny and very cool.

mikeyboy

07-11-2005, 07:37 AM

DCRTV just posted a confirmation.  Very sad.  My heart goes out to her family.Geronimo's Wife Killed In Car Wreck - 7/11 - Confirmation. Freda Source, the wife of WJFK-FM afternoon man Don Geronimo, was killed in an auto accident on Route 90 near Ocean City MD on Sunday. Apparently, neither her husband, whose real name is Mike Sorce, nor their son, Bart, were with her when the tragedy occurred, our sources say. She was traveling westbound on 90, and a vehicle avoiding an eastbound accident swerved into the westbound lane hitting her Lexus head-on. Mrs. Source was taken to University Of Maryland's Shock Traunt Unit in Baltimore where she died. She was 50. Before marrying her husband, the then Freda Wright had worked at a number of radio stations in the DC area. More soon..... 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy"> Ron & Fez Show Log (http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm); Daily News Scratch N' Match is the Devil The Music Mikey Likes Show on RadioBBQ, weekdays 11:00 am - 1:00 pm (http://www.radiobbq.net) Now with new theme song (http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3) by BoBoGolem

JPMNICK

07-11-2005, 07:46 AM

That is horrible news. My condolences to the whole family and all fans of the show

http://home.comcast.net/~nickcontardo/rfnetjp.jpg

Thanks to Reef for my sig. You rock. Love Your Grandson Frank

paul201

07-11-2005, 07:47 AM

Very sad indeed. Don has always been good to R&F. Hate to hear news like this.

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 07:48 AM

Oh, man, that is absolutely horrific news.  My heart really goes out to Don and his son...nobody should ever have to deal with a tragedy like that.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

Dirtybird12

07-11-2005, 07:49 AM

our prayers are with the Sorce family and all the fans. <a href="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fakeband.jpg" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by CircusFreak on 7-11-05 @ 12:48 PM

curtoid

07-11-2005, 07:50 AM

just found this on radiogodsforum.com:<a href="http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3578160">http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3578160</a> quote:  OCEAN CITY- A major road to the beach was temporarily shut down Sunday afternoon after a series of accidents left one woman dead. The Maryland State Police say the accidents happened at about 1:56 p.m. on westbound Route 90 near Saint Martin's Neck road. One car slammed on its brakes but the cars behind it did not. This resulted in a 10-car pile up. In a separate crash, the police say Freda Wright-Sorce, 50, of Great Falls, Va., was killed after a head-on collision. The police say it happened when an eastbound Ford Explorer, in an attempt to avoid the above mentioned pile-up, crossed the median and struck Freda's Lexus SC430. westbound car.  Freda was flown to Shock Trauma in Baltimore where she died from her injuries. The driver of the eastbound Ford Exploer, Jevgenijs Dunajevskis, 22, of Berlin, Md., was treated and released from Peninsula Regional Medical Center in Salisbury. The police are continuing to investigate that crash. 

This message was edited by curtoid on 7-11-05 @ 11:51 AM

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 07:51 AM

Edit, I didn't see the confirmation. <strike>I hope this isn't true because</strike> I can already hear the Jokes from Jim Norton and Anthony.If it is true, my feelings go out to the Sorce Family.I checked the offical website for D&M (Always thought having the word "website" in the url was retarded, Kind of like Mikey D's Game Show's having the word's "Game Show" in the title)<a title="click to enlarge" href="http://s2.imagesubmit.com/donandmikewebsite.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://s2.imagesubmit.com/donandmikewebsitesm.jpg" border="0" /></a>click to enlarge<strike>Doesn't look good...</strike><a href="http://s2.imagesubmit.com/donandmikewebsite.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 1:11 PM

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 07:55 AM

Come on, O&A must have a LITTLE class.  Wasn't Opie's dad killed in a car wreck a year or so ago?  Unless D&M tastelessly mocked that on-air (which I highly doubt), what kind of animal sees the humor in something like this?I'm already sorry for starting this tangent, but fuck O&A and anyone who has anything to do with them if they make fun of this.  No stupid "radio war" is worth it.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

bobrobot

07-11-2005, 07:55 AM

What a terrible tragedy, sad beyond words. My sincerest condolences.

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 08:02 AM

quote: Come on, O&A must have a LITTLE class.  Wasn't Opie's dad killed in a car wreck a year or so ago?  Unless D&M tastelessly mocked that on-air (which I highly doubt), what kind of animal sees the humor in something like this? I'm already sorry for starting this tangent, but fuck O&A and anyone who has anything to do with them if they make fun of this.  No stupid "radio war" is worth it.  I'm sorry for starting the Tangent. But after all the time they spent on Don's Dog and Jimmy calling Freda a "Cunt" I think they'll take a couple shots. They did that about Linda Lovelace's sister, and they had no bad feeling towards her before hand, they HATE Don, Jimmy Hates him more than O&A.They don't seem to hold back on much (they didn't make fun of Opie's Dad's death but did mention it a few times.)<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 12:27 PM

Bob Impact

07-11-2005, 08:04 AM

I would doubt that even O&A would touch this one.  You would have to be a sociopath.I'll send my condolences to D&M as well.  There's nothing worse that losing a loved one in this manner.

canofsoup15

07-11-2005, 08:04 AM

This very sad and I hope that Don and Bart are doing alright. I wonder
if Don and Mike can come back from this, his family played a somewhat
significant role in the show. And O&A aren't THAT heartless. 

<img border="0" src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=Canofsoup15" /> 


I got the glass, I got the steel. I got the love to hate.
 All I need is your head on stake.

This message was edited by canofsoup15 on 7-11-05 @ 12:06 PM

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 08:08 AM

I wonder if Don and Mike can come back from thisIt may be a while (I don't expect them to be on today) but I'm sure Don will be able to come back, He's been through a lot of bad stuff in the time I've known about that show. This is probably the worst thing yet, but I think he'll be able to maintain his show.

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

JPMNICK

07-11-2005, 08:09 AM

I wonder if they are going to prosecute the guy who hit her head on. I also hope O&A do not tool on this. this is not joking type material, no matter how much you hate someone

http://home.comcast.net/~nickcontardo/rfnetjp.jpg

Thanks to Reef for my sig. You rock. Love Your Grandson Frank

torker

07-11-2005, 08:15 AM

My sympathies to all those affected.  Tragic.

[center]<IMG SRC=http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/torker1313/vdtr.jpg>[center]

[i][center][center][i]

DJEvelEd

07-11-2005, 08:16 AM

Do you all really believe that the kings of cringe humor will stay away from this one? They are sitting in a round table discussion right now thinking of attack angles. My condolences to all those affected by this tragedy. I like the Don & Mike Show. Hey where's MOE?Oh MOE?Moe?

:) FLING :) :) FLING :) ........... :gasp: SPLATT :gasp: :gasp: SPLATT :gasp:
PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS
SPONSORED BY:"THE F’CESTOF C’SAR" BY ’SOP c464 B.C.
<img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg">

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 08:16 AM

quote: I wonder if they are going to prosecute the guy who hit her head on. I also hope O&A do not tool on this. this is not joking type material, no matter how much you hate someone I'm sure they will prosecute this.I also hope O&A leave it be. But as someone who's heard a lot of their shows, they do a lot of stuff on "not joking type" subjects. Usually Opie plays the good cop while Anthony and Jimmy beat something into the ground: L'll Connor Peterson for example... <img src="http://s2.imagesubmit.com/fredawebsite.jpg" border="0" />Freda was really good looking too. I didn't hear her on the show very much (not a regular listener, usually just hear the end of the show before R&F)<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 12:47 PM

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 08:19 AM

I'm just gonna stay the hell out of this thread.  There are many things I could say that might be taken as me being a dick.  I never wanted to see this guy's wife dead, so I'm sorry to hear she died.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 08:19 AM

quote: The driver of the eastbound Ford Exploer, Jevgenijs Dunajevskis, 22  I hope this guy can speak english, or I'm gonna be pissed. There are a lot of licensed drivers who can not read their own license.I'm just gonna stay the hell out of this thread. So you had to let us know about it?<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" />Do you all really believe that the kings of cringe humor will stay away from this one? They are sitting in a round table discussion right now thinking of attack angles.The only good thing is that the news about this came out after their show (at least I hope it did, I can't listen live from work) so it will give them a bit of time to think about it, maybe they'll let it be.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 12:22 PM

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 08:21 AM

this is not joking type material, no matter how much you hate someone Well, they do have horrible sense of humor.  I mean they say they could laugh at a train wreck, could they laugh at a car wreck?  Only time will tell.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Netzy

07-11-2005, 08:24 AM

quote:just found this on radiogodsforum.com:<a href="http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3578160">http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3578160</a> quote: OCEAN CITY- A major road to the beach was temporarily shut down Sunday afternoon after a series of accidents left one woman dead. The
Maryland State Police say the accidents happened at about 1:56 p.m. on
westbound Route 90 near Saint Martin's Neck road. One car slammed on
its brakes but the cars behind it did not. This resulted in a 10-car
pile up. In a separate crash, the police say Freda
Wright-Sorce, 50, of Great Falls, Va., was killed after a head-on
collision. The police say it happened when an eastbound Ford Explorer,
in an attempt to avoid the above mentioned pile-up, crossed the median
and struck Freda's Lexus SC430. westbound car. Freda was flown
to Shock Trauma in Baltimore where she died from her injuries. The
driver of the eastbound Ford Exploer, Jevgenijs Dunajevskis, 22, of
Berlin, Md., was treated and released from Peninsula Regional Medical
Center in Salisbury. The police are continuing to investigate that crash. 

This message was edited by curtoid on 7-11-05 @ 11:51 AMI'll keep my eye on her blog Web site to see if we get one about her and Rudy being reunited.

fezident

07-11-2005, 08:27 AM

Just terrible.  Really.I don't at all enjoy the D&M show and one of the reasons was that Mike was ALWAYS talking to (or about) his wife.  I would literally say to myself "enough already...we get it...your wife is very important to you...".So, to hear that he lost her in such a sudden and terrible way makes it all the more tragic.  I'm sure he's devastated but, he IS a professional and I'm sure he will return in the future.  I highly doubt that this event will become radio fodder for OnA, Stern, or anyone else for that matter.  <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> "Jam out with your clam out"

This message was edited by fezident on 7-11-05 @ 12:27 PM

curtoid

07-11-2005, 08:29 AM

SKW - you bring up O&A, and then apologize for starting the tangent, and then keep it going and making it worse by going into the details of a ridiculous DJ "war"...wtf???I can't even imagine how someone can bounce back after something like this. I would not be surprised if Don did not come back at all and instead do what he's been threatening doing and going to work behind the scenes. I hope their family are with him and their son now - anyone who has lost someone like this knows the abruptness of such a loss. Especially if you have been with someone for more than half your life.

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 08:34 AM

quote: SKW - you bring up O&A, and then apologize for starting the tangent, and then keep it going and making it worse by going into the details of a ridiculous DJ "war"...wtf??? Okay, Then I'm not sorry. At least I didn't say I'm not going to post here and then post multiple times.I didn't think I was making it worse. I'm just stating what's been on the air for years now. It's not really a "DJ" War. the war ended and there are still bad feelings on both sides.I can't even imagine how someone can bounce back after something like this.People do loose family members all the time. I don't think this automatically means the end of the Don and Mike show. If they do end the show. WJFK is screwed earlier than I thought! <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 12:36 PM

JPMNICK

07-11-2005, 08:35 AM

The difference between Conner Peterson and Don's wife is that they actually know her, and used to work with him. Either way, I can not imagine how Don is going to be able to come back to work anytime soon. 

http://home.comcast.net/~nickcontardo/rfnetjp.jpg

Thanks to Reef for my sig. You rock. Love Your Grandson Frank

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 08:38 AM

The difference between Conner Peterson and Don's wife is that they actually know her, and used to work with him. Does O&A and Jimmy really know Freda? Did they know Linda Lovelace's sister?

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

JPMNICK

07-11-2005, 08:51 AM

This is just to END the O&A stuff in this thread. This is from Anthony from a messageboard, in response to some of the people posting.  <div>Call me a hypocrite all you like. I don't give a fuck. But this shit's gotta stop. Radio is radio but this is shit I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Some of you motherfuckers are brutal for no other reason but to be brutal. Again, call me a hypocrite, don't listen to the show, throw your XM away, I don't care. The shit being posted here ain't fucking right.</div>

http://home.comcast.net/~nickcontardo/rfnetjp.jpg

Thanks to Reef for my sig. You rock. Love Your Grandson Frank

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 08:56 AM

Well there ya go.  I guess they are human after all.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 09:02 AM

That's really cool of Anthony and I'm really glad to see it. I do feel bad that he's visiting wackbag after work, I thought he'd be playing games or doing something fun.<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">quote: I don't give a fuck. But this shit's gotta stop...Some of you motherfuckers are brutal for no other reason but to be brutal...The shit being posted here ain't fucking right.  [/quote]And such saucey language!<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 1:11 PM

ChickenHawk

07-11-2005, 09:03 AM

This is horrible. I can't imagine the grief him and his family must be experiencing. Shit like this shouldn't happen.

<IMG SRC="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk"> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> <marquee behavior=alternate>EMFA</marquee>[color=white]

KC2OSO

07-11-2005, 09:05 AM

That's very sad news.  I can't imagine what I'd do.  My sincere regrets. 

http://www.njmikec.com/Fester1.jpg

ChildofFez

07-11-2005, 09:09 AM

thats such a horrible thing for Don. i wish all the best for his family.

http://hometown.aol.com/metllicat3/images/sig.jpg

You know you want to click do it I dare YA!!!!!!!! (http://www.myspace.com/drummerisme).

JPMNICK

07-11-2005, 09:19 AM

While I do feel bad for Don, I feel worse for his son. I can not imagine losing my mom, especially so suddenly in a car accident. 

http://home.comcast.net/~nickcontardo/rfnetjp.jpg

Thanks to Reef for my sig. You rock. Love Your Grandson Frank

mikeyboy

07-11-2005, 09:19 AM

<a href="http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?p=476621" target="_self">from Norton:</a> quote:  *>Op, Ant, myself and the rest of the show staff learned about Freda Sorce’s death this afternoon as did most of you. We are obviously stunned by it. We’ve all lost people we love and it’s never supposed to happen so unexpectedly. People you love are supposed to grow old with you and fade slowly, not kiss you goodbye and never come home. I am sure the listeners understand that when something horrible like this happens, all meaningless radio squabbles prove to be exactly that; meaningless. 99% of the listeners will know this intuitively; I am explaining this to the 1% who may not. Freda was part of a radio show we went back and forth with, but more importantly, she was a wife and a mother. Don, Bart and the rest of their family have had their lives completely and irreversibly altered. We can control the way we handle and address things on the air, but we cannot control the way listeners respond. I am asking on behalf of the show that all of you display the same respect for Don and his family that we intend to. Not because it’s ‘politically correct’ or for fear of corporate retribution, but because on a human level, it’s the way any of us would want to be treated if it were our own families. jim <div />  <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm" target="blank">Ron & Fez Show Log</a>; Daily News Scratch N' Match is the Devil <a href="http://www.radiobbq.net/" target="blank">The Music Mikey Likes Show on RadioBBQ, weekdays 11:00 am - 1:00 pm</a> Now with new <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3" target="blank">theme song</a> by BoBoGolem

This message was edited by mikeyboy on 7-11-05 @ 1:20 PM

Netzy

07-11-2005, 09:28 AM

You think this is the end of the D&M show?One can only hope some good will come from this tragedy.

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 09:30 AM

quote: <a href="http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?p=476621" target="_self">from Norton:</a>  Wow. That is really well said. I'm very happy that they are doing this.I also feel bad that they have to spend time at Wackbag and try to calm those animals down. You thought my posts were "making it worse"? I can't imagine what those fuckers were writing. (I can't get to the site from work, blocked by Websense)Jim Norton is just making me love him even more. He's the best comedian out there now!<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 1:38 PM

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 09:30 AM

quote: You think this is the end of the D&M show?   I don't think so. But I don't think they'll be on today, maybe not until next week or later. People do loose loved ones and they do go on with their lives. Don is a professional. He may not be my favorite radio guy, but he's very successful and I don't think that's just luck.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" />

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 1:36 PM

booster11373

07-11-2005, 09:40 AM

Terrible loss for anyone to endure.going to wackbag is like walking thru Times Square when i was kid, kind of scary

When i first arrived you were all such jerks

But now i've come to love your quirks

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 09:47 AM

Hey netzy show some class.I have never been a big fan of O&A but what they have said and their actions to try to stop the people who have no class at all, has given me new respect for them.  I am glad that they understand the difference in what to joke about and what not to.And to those who post tasteless things about this.  Take a look in the mirror and see if this is how you really want to live your life as a shallow lame piece of s**t.  I for one can't fathom posting anything negative no matter what your feelings on any show about the death of both a wife and a mother.

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

Netzy

07-11-2005, 09:53 AM

quote:Hey netzy show some class.I
have never been a big fan of O&A but what they have said and their
actions to try to stop the people who have no class at all, has given
me new respect for them. I am glad that they understand the difference
in what to joke about and what not to.And to those who post
tasteless things about this. Take a look in the mirror and see if this
is how you really want to live your life as a shallow lame piece of
s**t. I for one can't fathom posting anything negative no matter what
your feelings on any show about the death of both a wife and a mother. I can find humor in tragedy, even if O&A don't say it's OK. Also, I'm perfectly happy and look myself in the mirror everyday.

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 09:53 AM

I'm totally in agreement with O&A and Norton's sentiments but I don't blame the fans for being morally confused as to how to act here. The hard core O&A fans worship O&A and the lack of tact and compassion they show for a number of horrible tragedies. This is coming from a huge fan too...All I'm saying is while I appreciate Anthony's defense and Norton's sentimentality, I feel they should have shown Don this same level of respect when he ran over his dog. They lost thier ability to use the excuse of "we can make fun (insert victim of tragedy here) b/c we didn't know them personally" when they spent three days of show on Don running over his own dog. Make fun of thier ratings, call them fat, but when someone runs over his dog, jesus christ...draw the line...I know his dog and his wife are two completely different galaxies emotionally but still, when someone dies, pet or not, leave the guy alone...especially if he did it himself accidentally. I thought that was a real low point for them, and this moral altruism seems a little too late for me. 

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

terryc35

07-11-2005, 09:55 AM

there is absolutely nothing funny about any of this...and to post things that mock this situation on a fansite of a show that is run by guys like R&F is just wrong.   I am constantly reading posts on this sight saying how much of a class act R&F are, let's try to conduct ourelves in the same manner.

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 09:56 AM

quote:  quote: Hey netzy show some class.I have never been a big fan of O&A but what they have said and their actions to try to stop the people who have no class at all, has given me new respect for them. I am glad that they understand the difference in what to joke about and what not to.And to those who post tasteless things about this. Take a look in the mirror and see if this is how you really want to live your life as a shallow lame piece of s**t. I for one can't fathom posting anything negative no matter what your feelings on any show about the death of both a wife and a mother. I can find humor in tragedy, even if O&A don't say it's OK. How about this?  DON'T.Leave it alone or get the boot.  It's that simple. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 09:59 AM

quote: there is absolutely nothing funny about any of this...and to post things that mock this situation on a fansite of a show that is run by guys like R&F is just wrong. Do you mean this site? Ron and Fez don't run it (Am I wrong?)And to those who post tasteless things about this.Has anything tasteless been posted here? <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 2:00 PM

terryc35

07-11-2005, 10:00 AM

give him the boot, please....neither this sight nor R&F need a "tough guy" like Netzy posting....I just you never have to experience any loss like this in your life netz.  If you do you will realize how truley sad you sound.

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 10:00 AM

Amen mojo - Netzy take you and your 38 posts somewhere will people appreciate them.....oh yeah i don't think anyone appreciates that kind of thing <img src="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg" border="0" /> "Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

This message was edited by Knowledged_one on 7-11-05 @ 2:01 PM

Produceher

07-11-2005, 10:01 AM

<blockquote style="">quote:I'm totally in agreement with O&A and Norton's sentiments but I don't blame the fans for being morally confused as to how to act here. The hard core O&A fans worship O&A and the lack of tact and compassion they show for a number of horrible tragedies.[/quote] <div>That's elitist. If you get it on a human level, than all humans should get it.</div>

Netzy

07-11-2005, 10:01 AM

I also respect moderators, and site ops. If they'd prefer no posts on the subject, then fine. I'm done.But, I can still see humor in the situation. *EDIT:
Buddies, chill out. I have seen tragedy like this in my life, and
that's probably why I choose to look for humor instead of post a
"thoughts and prayers" kind of message. I'm here because I'm an R&F
fan. 

This message was edited by Netzy on 7-11-05 @ 2:04 PM

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 10:03 AM

Explain to me the humor because i am sure there a bunch of people here who find no humor in her death.  So please show us you wisdom

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

terryc35

07-11-2005, 10:04 AM

SKW - I meant the show was run by R&F, not the site

mikeyboy

07-11-2005, 10:04 AM

quote: Explain to me the humor because i am sure there a bunch of people here who find no humor in her death.  So please show us you wisdom  " ...or don't.  This doesn't need to turn into a debate on whether an awful tragedy is funny.  If you would like to discuss it further, take it off board.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy"> Ron & Fez Show Log (http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm); Daily News Scratch N' Match is the Devil The Music Mikey Likes Show on RadioBBQ, weekdays 11:00 am - 1:00 pm (http://www.radiobbq.net) Now with new theme song (http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3) by BoBoGolem

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 10:06 AM

Netzy, thanks for taking the high ground.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

DJEvelEd

07-11-2005, 10:08 AM

I would like to call him out also. WHY IS THIS FUNNY? PLEASE SHOW ME THE FUNNY PART! I'll laugh at almost ANYTHING so show me what I missed there funnyman...

:) FLING :) :) FLING :) ........... :gasp: SPLATT :gasp: :gasp: SPLATT :gasp:
PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS
SPONSORED BY:"THE F’CESTOF C’SAR" BY ’SOP c464 B.C.
<img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg">

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 10:10 AM

quote: quote: I'm totally in agreement with O&A and Norton's sentiments but I don't blame the fans for being morally confused as to how to act here. The hard core O&A fans worship O&A and the lack of tact and compassion they show for a number of horrible tragedies. *>That's elitist. If you get it on a human level, than all humans should get it. <div />What??? 

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 10:11 AM

Mikey, i agree with you.  My point is that so many people here strive to be above the bs that gets put on wackbag and to have someone come here and show no class, rightfully angers people.  I think it is mostly incoceviable to 99% of the board that people make jokes or find humor in her death. 

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 10:17 AM

<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">quote:<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">[/quote][/quote]<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">quote: [/quote]<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">quote: I'm totally in agreement with O&A and Norton's sentiments but I don't blame the fans for being morally confused as to how to act here. The hard core O&A fans worship O&A and the lack of tact and compassion they show for a number of horrible tragedies.[/quote] *>That's elitist. If you get it on a human level, than all humans should get it. * /> What??? [/quote]O&A won't make fun of Freda's death because she's rich I guess. 

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 10:20 AM

Explain to me the humor because i am sure there a bunch of people here who find no humor in her death. You know what? at first I didn't even see where the alleged joke was. A couple of other people asked the same question before hand and the second line looked like his signature to me. I even asked the question as if it were legitimate.

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

terryc35

07-11-2005, 10:21 AM

quote: I would like to call him out also. WHY IS THIS FUNNY? PLEASE SHOW ME THE FUNNY PART! I'll laugh at almost ANYTHING so show me what I missed there funnyman...  I am sure Netzy is probably under 20 years old and thought he could get a cheap laugh, and is now sitting at his computer feeling bad about himself and re-assuring himself that he is indeed a good person and did not mean any harm by his completely tasteless post.  He is just to stubborn to admit to us that he does not see any humor in this, he was just trying to impresss the big kids.  If this is the case Netzy, I understand that.....if not though, please show us how callous you are and outline the humor in the sudden death of young woman with a husband and an adolescent son.

ChickenHawk

07-11-2005, 10:21 AM

Kind've unrelated, but now that this story is legit... If anyone has control of editing thread titles, perhaps we should drop the word "Rumor."

<IMG SRC="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk"> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> <marquee behavior=alternate>EMFA</marquee>[color=white]

JustJon

07-11-2005, 10:25 AM

I may not be a fan of D&M's show, but no one should have to deal
with such a tragedy.  My condolences to Don and his family. 

<img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/bans/rfjustjon11.gif"> <A href="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com">Chaotic Concepts</a>

KennethC

07-11-2005, 10:28 AM

What an awful and surreal tragedy. My deepest condolences to the Sorce family and their friends.I seem to have some sort of genetic defect that allows me to enjoy Ron and Fez, Opie and Anthony and Don and Mike. I've never felt the need to be a radio partisan - radio "wars" have always seemed pretty bush league to me. Bravo to Anthony and Norton for recognizing the fine line between class and crass. Had they made comedic hay of this, there's no way I could have stomached  their show anymore.

http://www.myimgs.com/data/kennethc/ken.jpg

Produceher

07-11-2005, 10:32 AM

<blockquote style="">quote:Had they made comedic hay of this, there's no way I could have stomached  their show anymore.[/quote] Agreed.

Produceher

07-11-2005, 10:40 AM

quote:<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; ">quote:<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; ">[/quote]<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; "><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; ">quote: [/quote]<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; ">quote: I'm totally in agreement with O&A and Norton's sentiments but I don't blame the fans for being morally confused as to how to act here. The hard core O&A fans worship O&A and the lack of tact and compassion they show for a number of horrible tragedies.[/quote] *>That's elitist. If you get it on a human level, than all humans should get it. * /> What??? [/quote]O&A won't make fun of Freda's death because she's rich I guess. [/quote] Forgive me for not being clear. (I'm not attacking you at all)<div> </div><div>To think that you get it but others don't, is to be an elitist. As if you know better. You have a heart. So do I. If others don't, that is not O&A's fault. The line is obvious. </div><div> </div><div>It's kinda like the politicians who want to ban Grand Theft Auto because they fear that kids will start running over people. The politician wouldn't go crazy in the streets, so why would little Johnny? </div><div> </div><div>Peace</div>

This message was edited by Produceher on 7-11-05 @ 2:41 PM

Netzy

07-11-2005, 10:41 AM

quote:I am sure Netzy is probably
under 20 years old and thought he could get a cheap laugh, and is now
sitting at his computer feeling bad about himself and re-assuring
himself that he is indeed a good person and did not mean any harm by
his completely tasteless post. He is just to stubborn to admit to us
that he does not see any humor in this, he was just trying to impresss
the big kids. If this is the case Netzy, I understand that.....if not
though, please show us how callous you are and outline the humor in the
sudden death of young woman with a husband and an adolescent son.
 I'm plenty older than
20, and I'm plenty done with pursuing the topic (as the mods asked). I
find humor in it the same as I find humor in the death of Lacy
Peterson, Andrea Yates and the London terror attack. Some things are
just so awful you have to figure out ways to pick them apart and make
them funny. Let me try and steer this thread back on track: IF
Ron and Fez are back on tonight at 8 p.m., how do you think they'll
handle it? I expect some kind words at the beginning and end of the
show.

Produceher

07-11-2005, 10:43 AM

I tried posting this on Wackbag but they locked the thread.<div> </div><div>First off, I believe there is nothing wrong with discussing this topic. It should not be closed. </div><div> </div><div>People want to talk about it.</div><div> </div><div>Why is Freda's death different than everythng else they attack:</div><div> </div><div>1. Freda was a part of the show. A regular. Just like Patty or Pat from Moonachie. If this happened to Howard it would be just as off limits. Some unknown DJ would probably be fair game.*> *>2. As mentioned, they knew and met her.*> *>3. Don and Mike are aware of O&A's show. So it gets back to them. Terry Sciavo and Paul McCartney do not know or care about O&A. So making fun of them won't really get back to them. No real harm is done. Kinda like me making a black joke without anyone around.*> *>4. And there is that guilt factor. When you wish your enemies dead, it throws you if they actually do.*> *>5. There is a bond among enemies. It makes for good radio.*> *>By the way, why isn't anyone taking O&A to task for not bringing the funny during 9/11? They could have gone nuts on those firefighters looking for moving bodies. *> *>Sometimes it's just too close to home. Even if it's your nemesis.*> *>Peace</div>

This message was edited by Produceher on 7-11-05 @ 2:45 PM

curtoid

07-11-2005, 10:47 AM

quote: What an awful and surreal tragedy. My deepest condolences to the Sorce family and their friends.I seem to have some sort of genetic defect that allows me to enjoy Ron and Fez, Opie and Anthony and Don and Mike. I've never felt the need to be a radio partisan - radio "wars" have always seemed pretty bush league to me. Bravo to Anthony and Norton for recognizing the fine line between class and crass. "Surreal" is the best word to describe it for me. I just can't imagine what they must be going through - so damn sad. Among the many things that I think about, I think about my own mother, and all of the years I would have lost out if she had died when I was 20. And as far as Don and his life, I can't imagine the level of devistation. DCRTV's mailbags have exploded today - Dave wrote this after one of the letters, which (to anyone who listened over the years) seemed appropriate. quote: Dave's response: I agree. You could tell that Freda was "more than a wife" to Don. She was his "soulmate" and "guardian angel" in many respects.....  Ken - thank you for outing your "gentic defect"! I think there were actually more of you than ever admitted it. I really liked what Anthony wrote, but what Norton wrote blew me away - so well said - so appropriate - so kind and considerate. Good for them both for being so outgoing with their compassion. It may not mean anything to Don, but to all the people who like both shows, or (at the very least) don't blindly hate one show or another, it hopefully will go a long way. 

This message was edited by curtoid on 7-11-05 @ 2:50 PM

terryc35

07-11-2005, 10:48 AM

Enough said...They will definitely address it in the beginning of the show and I imagine they will be pretty broken up about it.  Ron especially.  Although he does not discuss his family much, it is clear how much of a family man he is and he has metioned the birth of his children being a likfe changing experience....so to hear that the wife and mother of a colleague was killed suddenly will shake him to the core. 

ChickenHawk

07-11-2005, 10:48 AM

I find humor in the death of Lacy Peterson, Andrea Yates and the London terror attack.
You belong in jail.

<IMG SRC="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk"> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> <marquee behavior=alternate>EMFA</marquee>[color=white]

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 10:48 AM

quote: Forgive me for not being clear. (I'm not attacking you at all)*> <div />*>To think that you get it but others don't, is to be an elitist. As if you know better. You have a heart. So do I. If others don't, that is not O&A's fault. The line is obvious.  <div />*> <div />*>It's kinda like the politicians who want to ban Grand Theft Auto because they fear that kids will start running over people. The politician wouldn't go crazy in the streets, so why would little Johnny? <div />*> <div />*>Peace <div />e·lit·ism or ‚·lit·ism   <a href="https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3 Fq%3Delitist"><img alt="Audio pronunciation of "elitist"" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg" border="0" /></a> ( P )  <a title="Click for guide to symbols." href="http://www.ronfez.net/help/ahd4/pronkey.html" onclick="ahdpop();return false;">Pronunciation Key</a>  (<img height="15" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gif" width="7" align="bottom" border="0" />-l<img height="15" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gif" width="7" align="bottom" border="0" /><img height="22" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gif" width="4" align="bottom" border="0" />t<img height="15" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gif" width="7" align="bottom" border="0" />z<img height="22" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/lprime.gif" width="3" align="bottom" border="0" /><img height="15" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gif" width="6" align="bottom" border="0" />m, <img height="15" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/amacr.gif" width="7" align="bottom" border="0" />-l<img height="15" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gif" width="7" align="bottom" border="0" /><img height="22" alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gif" width="4" align="bottom" border="0" />-) n. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.  I thought Anthony and Jimmy just felt it was a bad situation and they wanted to let the Wackbaggers know it wasn't cool to make fun of in their name.

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

Heather 8

07-11-2005, 10:59 AM

quote: You think this is the end of the D&M show?   No, I don't... but it's definitely going to be a very different show from now on.As much negative stuff as I've said about the show (and, I admit, Freda) in the past, no one deserves to go through this hell.  My condolences to her family.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/RFPeachy/RFnetPeachy.jpg
Thanks WWFallon!

You can be disappointed, but you cannot walk away. This fight has just begun.

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 11:03 AM

This is the kinda stuff I didn't want to get into in this thread, but I have to stick up for Netzy here because it's already been started.We laugh at HORRIBLE things all day, and NOW you all want to take the moral high ground?  Kids getting molested, accidents around the world, poverty, disease.  Don't forget who you are.I do not in any way want to begin joking about this, but I can't believe you're all dog piling on Netzy because he's being honest. I don't see humor in this, but we all laugh at horrible jokes, don't act like you're better.  You should either remember how this one made you feel next time something horrible happens and someone cracks a joke, or just deal with the fact of who you aren and get off Netzy's back.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 11:03 AM

They are live today, with Mike, Buzz and Rob.Mike sounds really really choked up about this, he is reading a statement about the incident.  What really sucks is that he has to break this news to all the other areas they broadcast to.  

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 11:07 AM

quote: I'm just gonna stay the hell out of this thread.  There are many things I could say that might be taken as me being a dick.  

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 11:07 AM

Moe, I think the difference is and judging from what i have read on Dcrtv is that people who listen to the shows for long lengths of time feel like they know the people they listen to so to make light of the situation to some people is like making fun of their family.I freely admit that i smirked about the Aruba T-shirt i posted about last week.  But again i have no ties to that girl and her misfortune but having grown up in DC and having heard D&M for so long you feel for his loss on a more personal level then something that happens to people we have never met or heard of.  Not to mention that guy also finds humor in the london bombings and other misfortunes that is not good that is sadistic and there is a difference

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

ChickenHawk

07-11-2005, 11:07 AM

Yeah, but Moe, there's also people like me who never found terrorism and miscarriages funny in the first place.

<IMG SRC="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk"> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> <marquee behavior=alternate>EMFA</marquee>[color=white]

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 11:08 AM

quote: quote: I'm just gonna stay the hell out of this thread.  There are many things I could say that might be taken as me being a dick.  <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a> I stayed out until I saw people being hypocrites. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 11:10 AM

quote: Yeah, but Moe, there's also people like me who never found terrorism and miscarriages funny in the first place. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk" border="0" /> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> EMFA You NEVER laughed at something inappropriate?  That's bullshit man, or you wouldn't be a fan of Ron and Fez.  Not to say they will make fun of this because they won't, but they've done bits on different topics and we all laugh. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

booster11373

07-11-2005, 11:10 AM

I cant believe there broadcasting today.

When i first arrived you were all such jerks

But now i've come to love your quirks

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 11:11 AM

quote:  They are live today, with Mike, Buzz and Rob.   I would have really expected them to take a few days to process this. They are professionals. (maybe not Rob, who is that?) 

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 11:12 AM

The bottom line is this.  Like or hate the show, this guy is allowed to have a personal life, and we all feel bad for him.  No one it going to disrespect him or drag their problems with his show into this sad topic.Just don't act like all of a sudden you're all above laughing at tragedy when we do it all the time.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Reephdweller

07-11-2005, 11:12 AM

I feel awful about this news which I just heard. It's horrible and I send my deepest condolences to Don and his family. I myself was never a fan of their show except for the time when they were on the air during 9/11, I thought they were outstanding and it certainly helped me through the whole mess.I haven't really read any of the previous posts in this thread, though I did see Norton's comments on wackbag and I agree with him. On-air squabbles aside this is a tragedy and we need to treat this with humanity. My prayers are with their families.

<center><IMG SRC="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=3">

Reefy's website... (http://www.osirusonline.com/)</center>

<center>Check out The Ron and Fez Show Logs...UPDATED!!!!! (http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm)</center>
<marquee behavior=alternate bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Right now you could care less about me...
but soon enough you will care, by the time I'm done</marquee>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 11:13 AM

They're broadcasting?  Didn't see that coming.  What kind of show is it?

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

ChickenHawk

07-11-2005, 11:13 AM

Of course I've laughed at inappropriate things, everyone has. But when I say "inappropriate", I'm talking about catholic priest jokes and anorexic celebrities... Not death, terrorism, or car accidents. Those things are just off limits, and they've always been off limits as far as I'm concerned.

<IMG SRC="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk"> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> <marquee behavior=alternate>EMFA</marquee>[color=white]

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 11:14 AM

quote:   I stayed out until I saw people being hypocrites.  You posted within 2 minutes of saying you wouldn't post. I'm just busting your balls, don't take it too personally.  <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 3:17 PM

celery

07-11-2005, 11:15 AM

Mike, Buzz and Rob are giving their condolences.<a href="http://www.luckyriverpoker.com"> 
</a>

This message was edited by celery on 7-11-05 @ 3:16 PM

canofsoup15

07-11-2005, 11:15 AM

Good idea broadcasting today, Mike and the gang is handling it very
well so far. Hearing them like this is very sad though, my condolences
most certainly go out to all of them. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=Canofsoup15"> 

<marquee behavior=alternate>
I got the glass, I got the steel. I got the love to hate.
 All I need is your head on stake.</marquee>

mdr55

07-11-2005, 11:16 AM

mikeyboy

07-11-2005, 11:16 AM

quote: They're broadcasting?  Didn't see that coming.  What kind of show is it?  Just tuned it in.  They are on without Don and they are talking about Freda.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy"> Ron & Fez Show Log (http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm); Daily News Scratch N' Match is the Devil The Music Mikey Likes Show on RadioBBQ, weekdays 11:00 am - 1:00 pm (http://www.radiobbq.net) Now with new theme song (http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3) by BoBoGolem

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 11:16 AM

Mike said Don asked them to do the show today, the feeling was they would have to get the show about her death out of the way sooner or later so they figured that it would help ease the pain rather then dredge the pain up a week from now.  They are going to play some clips that they put together of some of Freda's calls to the show.  They may or may not open the phone lines.they are imo hinting around the radio wars by saying that its hard to make friends in a business where you constantly rip others down.  But down deep they appreciate the outpouring from the radio community and the class/respect being shown from others.

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 11:18 AM

quote: What kind of show is it?  They do a Radio Show, on the Radio. You can listen on line or with a RADIO!<img height="317" src="http://www.mbzponton.org/images/mb_radio_Blaupunkt_219.jpg" width="388" border="0" />again just playing...

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 11:19 AM

quote: quote:   I stayed out until I saw people being hypocrites.  You posted within 2 minutes of saying you wouldn't post. I'm just busting your balls, don't take it too personally.  <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>This message was edited by SKW on 7-11-05 @ 3:17 PM OK, I won't, and I'm staying out of this thread for good now unless I have something to ask or add to the discussion about his wife dying.  I recognize that I can sometimes steer a topic to being all about me even when I don't want it to, and I shouldn't make this one about Moe.  Pease. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Crippler

07-11-2005, 11:19 AM

quote: Mike, Buzz and Rob are giving their condolences.<a href="http://www.luckyriverpoker.com/"> </a>Wow...just an AWFUL situation, and it takes a lot of guts to broadcast today.  Props for even thinking about going to work today and dealing with this.

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/71172486.jpg
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 11:21 AM

quote: quote: <blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">quote: <blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">quote:  [/quote]<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px">quote:  I'm totally in agreement with O&A and Norton's sentiments but I don't blame the fans for being morally confused as to how to act here. The hard core O&A fans worship O&A and the lack of tact and compassion they show for a number of horrible tragedies.[/quote] *>That's elitist. If you get it on a human level, than all humans should get it. * /> What??? [/quote]O&A won't make fun of Freda's death because she's rich I guess. [/quote] Forgive me for not being clear. (I'm not attacking you at all)*> <div />*>To think that you get it but others don't, is to be an elitist. As if you know better. You have a heart. So do I. If others don't, that is not O&A's fault. The line is obvious.  <div />*> <div />*>It's kinda like the politicians who want to ban Grand Theft Auto because they fear that kids will start running over people. The politician wouldn't go crazy in the streets, so why would little Johnny? <div />*> <div />*>Peace <div />This message was edited by Produceher on 7-11-05 @ 2:41 PM [/quote]Well yes and no. I for one am of the opinion that one cannot live in a bubble, and if you are in a position to exert influence over a person or a group of people that you should try to define the same boundaries of behavior that you feel people should treat you with. By relentlessly attacking the death of Don's dog over a three day period, laughing at the witty dead dog jokes, sending thier fans on a mission to mock him on thier own show, and generally giving the impression that they could care less about a death in Don's life that meant a lot to him and his family, they basically set the standard by which thier fans should behave. Call me crazy, but I think one HAS to take SOME responsibility for that. I mean, you can't go around mocking tragedies like the Peterson drowning, The London Bombing, etc. and expect people to find your heartfelt sympathies sincere when the man you lambasted for weeks on the air loses his wife. It's just disingenuous, regardless of whether or not they actually mean it, which I wholeheartedly think they do. Their ACTIONS have proven time and again that even the most horrific of tragedies have some comedic value to them. There's nothing elitist about that. I don't pretend to be morally superior in anyway. I have laughed along with the Connor Peterson jokes like many other fans. I just know what's off limits. Pets and family members belong to PEOPLE YOU KNOW that suffer an awful and untimely death are not funny. Ever. 

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

Doctor Manhattan

07-11-2005, 11:28 AM

quote: OK, I won't, and I'm staying out of this thread for good now unless I have something to ask or add to the discussion about his wife dying.  I recognize that I can sometimes steer a topic to being all about me even when I don't want it to, and I shouldn't make this one about Moe.  Pease. Moe, please don't get upset. I was nervous, I make fun of stuff sometimes when I get scared. /sheepish Norton bit 

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 11:41 AM

and let me just say this...for the FUCKS on wackbag that felt the need to say "i wonder if bart's gonna make it to the end of the year" you should kill yourself because you lost all of your humanity...

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 11:42 AM

Jeff, that implies that they had some humanity to begin with

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

walking joint

07-11-2005, 11:43 AM

I freely admit that i smirked about the Aruba T-shirt i posted about last week.  But again i have no ties to that girl and her misfortune but having grown up in DC and having heard D&M for so long you feel for his loss on a more personal level then something that happens to people we have never met or heard of. so being i don't live in DC and have no real ties to the Don and Mike show and never met them, I'm allowed to find his wife being dead funny?  i think its a tragedy for Don and his family, but like people have said most of us have laughed and joked about things in the past just as tasteless.  i'm not going out of my way to make jokes about this situtation, but i'm not going to kill someone for doing so and if its funny, i'll laugh like i always do.  i'm surprised you would jump all over Netzy, but then admit that you found a joke about the girl killed in Aruba funny because you had no ties to her.   

<img src="http://hometown.aol.com/satelitecam/images/sig_wk.jpg">
thanks for the sig SatCam...and thanks for bringing it back Furie

DJEvelEd

07-11-2005, 11:44 AM

Moe, I would laugh at ANY tragedy buy there was NO JOKE EVER MADE! Show me the joke and I MAY laugh. Netzy had nothin!!!

:) FLING :) :) FLING :) ........... :gasp: SPLATT :gasp: :gasp: SPLATT :gasp:
PUTTING THE FUNNY IN PRESENTLY SEEN DEPTHS
SPONSORED BY:"THE F’CESTOF C’SAR" BY ’SOP c464 B.C.
<img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/shockposters.jpg">

FlashVirus

07-11-2005, 11:46 AM

The fact that Norton and anthony had to actual go on to wackbag and
tell them to stop is just horrible. Its horrible that they couldn't
figure out that what they were doing was wrong.  Those F'en mods wouldn't lock the thread until Jim Norton made his posts.

Knowledged_one

07-11-2005, 11:49 AM

Walking Joint please do not attempt to pick out minor things and then twist them to say that that is what i meant.  That is plain pathetic if you do not understand the gist of my post then i don't know what to tell you.  I wasn't just saying the D&M show, the same outpouring would be shown and expected if someone on the R&F show passed, its the fact that you listen to the people for so long you begin to feel like family with them and when one dies it is just as shocking as if you knew them.  And not once did i say what happened to Natallee Holloway is funny.  People getting murdered or deaths as sudden as these are not funny plain and simple

<IMG SRC="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg">
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." -- John Wayne

Produceher

07-11-2005, 11:50 AM

<blockquote style="">quote:and let me just say this...for the FUCKS on wackbag that felt the need to say "i wonder if bart's gonna make it to the end of the year" you should kill yourself because you lost all of your humanity...

 [/quote] I totally agree. All I was saying in my elitist comment was that you sounded like you understood the confusion of the O&A pests even though you knew better.<div> </div><div>We are all human beings. If you can't see where the lines get drawn, than you are a complete waste of skin. You don't get a pass just because you laugh at O&A.</div><div> </div><div>Peace.</div>

Mike from Bklyn

07-11-2005, 11:55 AM

I'm no D&M fan but I feel for the family. 

<IMG SRC=http://home.nyc.rr.com/pbvg/rfsig.JPG>

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 11:57 AM

I totally agree. All I was saying in my elitist comment was that you sounded like you understood the confusion of the O&A pests even though you knew better.*> Oh i thought you were calling me an elitist...

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

freedarocco

07-11-2005, 12:00 PM

It makes me sick to read some of the threads that have been posted today.  Who in the fuck cares what O & A will say?  Who cares Howard will spew?  This is something much deeper than a stupid radio squabble.  Have you no soul? This is a tragic loss of life, that I wouldn't wish on ANYONE.  Whether you like them or not, please show some decency and respect for this tragedy.  Radio is great but it doesn't warrant this bullshit. Please grow up.On a side note, the responses from both Opie and Norton were very sincere and heart felt.  Props to both of them for being professional.

mdr55

07-11-2005, 12:04 PM

curtoid

07-11-2005, 12:11 PM

I listened to the first segment, and may listen again later on. There is often comfort to be found in shared grief, but the combined nature of her being a pseudo-public figure, and the private aspects of their lives, it was just too uncomfortable for me. Mike did say some good things, though, about grief and how it's obviously something not exclusive to what they are going through now. I'm sure to the listeners who got to feel like they knew her over the 20+ years she's been part of Don's shows will feel it good to work through this on the air. I didn't listen that much the last few years, but enough to know she wasn't as intertwined with the show as she had been when Bart was growing up. I know I'm in the minority, but I often (not always, but often) found the he said/she said segments to be funny. Especially when they would come back from vacations or trips. I remember a trip to europe they took with Robb and his wife, and the two very different recaps afterwards; I also liked the story of Don coming home after the show one night in the summer, and she is skinny dipping with a hot MILF from down the road in the back yard pool, after having too much wine. The shit between her and Bart when he got older and went to college made for some good cringy radio in the last couple of years - the two would be on the radio at the same time, but neither would speak to the other. The tapes of her early career on radio, and them busting on her "grown up" voice she was putting on, and even the recent stuff I would hear about her mother ("Big Freda") moving in and the issues that was presenting. I can't get the WJFK website to load up right now,, but I did see this from the Junkies official website:Monday, July 11 Our deepest prayers - We did not do the show today due to the passing of Don Geronimo's wife Freda. Our sincerest, deepest condolences go out to Don and his family. Please pray for the entire Sorce family.  Since Mike, Robb and Buzz decided to come in and be the first to officially break the news to most of the listeners, it makes sense.

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 12:20 PM

quote: It makes me sick to read some of the threads that have been posted today.  Who in the fuck cares what O & A will say?  Who cares Howard will spew?  This is something much deeper than a stupid radio squabble.  Have you no soul? This is a tragic loss of life, that I wouldn't wish on ANYONE.  Whether you like them or not, please show some decency and respect for this tragedy.  Radio is great but it doesn't warrant this bullshit. Please grow up.On a side note, the responses from both Opie and Norton were very sincere and heart felt.  Props to both of them for being professional.Well I for one care what O&A (or more specifically O&A fans) say about this incident, specifically when some of these scumbags treat this tragedy as just another opportunity to mock someone who's died and spit on the ones they left behind. (Not to say O&A would ever do that, but its clear some of the fans have,  I mean i read the posts)I just wanted to take the opportunity to point out something that has been bothering me since the whole Don's dog incident...the direction the show is going toward the tactless and unsympathetic of people they actually know...I remember when they re-played the Fez audio...I mean we all know WHY they played it...it was good radio...but the guy's grandmother died...they walked a dangerous line of mocking his crying and applauding his courage...it was very uncomfortable...I just wanna be one of the few fans that actually say the things that most fans don't...that sometimes I really don't approve of some of the things they or thier fans do...and in the end it means nothing but i felt the need to say it....that the cool/funny/witty manner in which its done doesnt' excuse the person from the violation of good taste...its a moral tripwire really....people are so detached yet so close b/c of television and the internet...like i can do terry schiavo jokes when im on stage but i recognize morally that its wrong...maybe the distance is what makes it ok for me to do it, because im not affecting anyone directly related to the tragedy...but never in a million years would i do schiavo jokes if i worked with her...or she was in my family...and i wouldnt do dead dog jokes either...they know the guy for christ's sake...how can some of these O&A fans not recognize that...how can they post pictures from the dead dog series with freda underneath a wheel with the caption "i trusted you you fat fuck"...how can they get death pools going on when bart's going to die...what the hell is the matter with some of these people...? 

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

ChickenHawk

07-11-2005, 12:28 PM

what the hell is the matter with some of these people...?
That's easy... Their parents fucking HATE them.

<IMG SRC="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk"> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> <marquee behavior=alternate>EMFA</marquee>[color=white]

terryc35

07-11-2005, 12:29 PM

Although I am on your side with a lot of points Jeff...playing Fez clips was not at all inappropriate.  Ron himself asked Tender to write a song making fun of it.  I think you are being a little unfoir to O&A.  If Anthony ran over his dog, D&M would definitely have mocked it.  A human life cut short is a lot different than a dog or a woman who has lived to 7 years old. (97 years old)

This message was edited by terryc35 on 7-11-05 @ 4:30 PM

FlashVirus

07-11-2005, 12:34 PM

Well
I for one care what O&A (or more specifically O&A fans) say
about this incident, specifically when some of these scumbags treat
this tragedy as just another opportunity to mock someone who's died and
spit on the ones they left behind. (Not to say O&A would ever do
that, but its clear some of the fans have, I mean i read the posts)I
just wanted to take the opportunity to point out something that has
been bothering me since the whole Don's dog incident...the direction
the show is going toward the tactless and unsympathetic of people they
actually know...I remember when they re-played the Fez audio...I
mean we all know WHY they played it...it was good radio...but the guy's
grandmother died...they walked a dangerous line of mocking his crying
and applauding his courage...it was very uncomfortable...I just
wanna be one of the few fans that actually say the things that most
fans don't...that sometimes I really don't approve of some of the
things they or thier fans do...and in the end it means nothing but i
felt the need to say it....that the cool/funny/witty manner in which
its done doesnt' excuse the person from the violation of good taste...its
a moral tripwire really....people are so detached yet so close b/c of
television and the internet...like i can do terry schiavo jokes when im
on stage but i recognize morally that its wrong...maybe the distance is
what makes it ok for me to do it, because im not affecting anyone
directly related to the tragedy...but never in a million years would i
do schiavo jokes if i worked with her...or she was in my family...and i
wouldnt do dead dog jokes either...they know the guy for christ's
sake...how can some of these O&A fans not recognize
that...how can they post pictures from the dead dog series with freda
underneath a wheel with the caption "i trusted you you fat fuck"...how
can they get death pools going on when bart's going to die...what the hell is the matter with some of these people...? 

<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif" />
 
It made my heart sing. I read that post too about the tire with freda under it saying that.  After
that thread was locked and deleted, Jim Norton made a new thread which
got off track and turned into a " should we make fun of a dead person"
debate thread.

Keotok

07-11-2005, 12:41 PM

Justice4all

07-11-2005, 12:42 PM

I am listening to the show via online thread. Don is obviously not there, the rest of the crew is and they are letting callers pay respects on the air and also playing best of bits with Frieda. I truely feel bad for Don and Bart. This is a loss they will feel for many years to come. I wish I knew something I could tell them to make them feel better.Just gonna pray for them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/j4a3_sig.gif
"Did you catch all of that in your mouth??"
"You betcha!!!!!"
"That's disgusting"
"Shut up and keep sucking!"

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 12:44 PM

quote: Although I am on your side with a lot of points Jeff...playing Fez clips was not at all inappropriate.  Ron himself asked Tender to write a song making fun of it.  I think you are being a little unfoir to O&A.  If Anthony ran over his dog, D&M would definitely have mocked it.  A human life cut short is a lot different than a dog or a woman who has lived to 7 years old. (97 years old) This message was edited by terryc35 on 7-11-05 @ 4:30 PM No like i said before, the dog death and freda's death are in two different ballparks emotionally, im fully aware of that...its the precedent...when you say this is ok, the less intelligent of fans will say...well isn't this ok too? Is O&A responsible for that? I argue yes...when you cross the line with someone you KNOW...you can't seek the high ground without being criticized for it...

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

terryc35

07-11-2005, 12:49 PM

I see your point but I do not think that O&A are responsible for the very small number of fans thast do not have the intelligence to decipher the immense differences in these situations

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 01:00 PM

quote: I see your point but I do not think that O&A are responsible for the very small number of fans thast do not have the intelligence to decipher the immense differences in these situations When I say responsibility i don't mean they have to ANSWER for it...but to recognize the influence, i think, would be honest. Yes, RockStar games isnt responsible for someoen running someone over in the name of GTA, but making killing the primary audience draw is certainly influential...just recognize it...yes, we make games where you can kill imaginary people...we influence people to laugh at murder and death... 

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

curtoid

07-11-2005, 01:07 PM

Jeff - I really like much of what you said. It is good at times to just be that one voice out there, for whatever it's worth IF to just have to say the unpopular opinion. Not to flame, or hurt people's feelings, but just get another perspective out there on the table. At least for all the dozens of people who don't post, but who might feel the same way.I actually agree with you on the Fez audio - yes, I know Ron played it, and they had a song done about it, but I really felt it was something that was best left in house, and in context with the Ron and Fez Show. I even said as much at the time, I believe.Don's dog I differ with you only slightly, just because Don did make it public knowledge. That accident could have happened and no one would have been the wiser - i think by bringing it up, Don (in his own way to deal with things) had to have known that it would be grist for the mill. Even though this is a time of grief for him and his family, he knew how that game was played, and (in some respect) must have known about it. I do agree, however, with the people that pointed out that what the O&A fans did with that was never really funny because it wasn't like they were really getting anything over on them. Anyway - this has freaked me out more than I thought it ever could. It's got to be the combination of my cat dying, me being in a car accident less than a month ago where someone spun me around after running a stop sign, the memory of my friends who have died too young and in car accidents, the thought of my godsons (all around Bart's age) and what hell their lives would be like if their mom or dad died suddenly, the fact that I have met people with the show & station over the years - including Freda (I think I still have a hand written thank you note from her somewhere), and just how fragile life is. Just terrible.

PapaBear

07-11-2005, 01:11 PM

This is terrible. I feel bad for his family. I'm surprised Channel 4
news hasn't mentioned this. Then again, Don & Mike are not fans of
that station. 

<center><img src="http://www.geocities.com/pauleight/pb_sig.gif"></center>
<center>Get Small</center><center>LENNY IS</center>
<center>Thanks Monsterone for the sig!</center>

terryc35

07-11-2005, 01:12 PM

like I said, I get your point....I know you are not implying that they have to answer for it.  I completely grasp what you are saying.  And I think if you do read Norton's response to the threads he does address the fact that on air shit is on air shit.  It seems to me they do realize their influence and addressed it tastefully.

IamFogHat

07-11-2005, 01:16 PM

Hey I just want to say that this has been a wierd two weeks of mortality lessons for me as well, my friends father died at a fairly young age (and fairly suddenly) and my best friend and someone who I love more than anything in the world was in a car accident in south carolina in which the car flipped over and she could have easily been killed.  I know it's unpopular here but I have been a D&M fan for a long time and this is very very odd, because unlike other celebrities who I would say, 'oh wow so and so is dead,' something like this for some reason feels more real to me. Maybe cause i listen to them every day, maybe cause i drove past the station on my way to school every day for a lot of years, I don't know, it's another lesson to me about how precious life is and how it should be cherished.  I am Bart's age by like a month apart I think (twenty) and I cannot imagine losing my mother so suddenly like this.  My uttmost thoughts and prayers go out to Don, and Bart, and their family, and everyone on the show.  She will be missed, if not by radiophiles, but by her family, and that's what's really important here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/foghat_sig.gif

The Dude abides
...And I killed Laura Palmer

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 01:19 PM

I actually agree with you on the Fez audio - yes, I know Ron played it, and they had a song done about it, but I really felt it was something that was best left in house, and in context with the Ron and Fez Show. I even said as much at the time, I believe.Don's dog I differ with you only slightly, just because Don did make it public knowledge. That accident could have happened and no one would have been the wiser - i think by bringing it up, Don (in his own way to deal with things) had to have known that it would be grist for the mill. Even though this is a time of grief for him and his family, he knew how that game was played, and (in some respect) must have known about it. Well I can make the arguement than that like the Fez Audio, the dog stuff could've been best handled in house and in context with thier show. They USED to audio to make fun of Don, to trash thier show, to show that thier show was superior, that they are the kings of radio, ...we all know what they used it for...it was reprehensible...make fun of them when thier ratings tank...use that...make fun of Don being fat or whatever....why use the dog as an attack on another show...its so stupid...

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

freedarocco

07-11-2005, 01:26 PM

quote: quote: It makes me sick to read some of the threads that have been posted today.  Who in the fuck cares what O & A will say?  Who cares Howard will spew?  This is something much deeper than a stupid radio squabble.  Have you no soul? This is a tragic loss of life, that I wouldn't wish on ANYONE.  Whether you like them or not, please show some decency and respect for this tragedy.  Radio is great but it doesn't warrant this bullshit. Please grow up.On a side note, the responses from both Opie and Norton were very sincere and heart felt.  Props to both of them for being professional.Well I for one care what O&A (or more specifically O&A fans) say about this incident, specifically when some of these scumbags treat this tragedy as just another opportunity to mock someone who's died and spit on the ones they left behind. (Not to say O&A would ever do that, but its clear some of the fans have,  I mean i read the posts)I just wanted to take the opportunity to point out something that has been bothering me since the whole Don's dog incident...the direction the show is going toward the tactless and unsympathetic of people they actually know...I remember when they re-played the Fez audio...I mean we all know WHY they played it...it was good radio...but the guy's grandmother died...they walked a dangerous line of mocking his crying and applauding his courage...it was very uncomfortable...I just wanna be one of the few fans that actually say the things that most fans don't...that sometimes I really don't approve of some of the things they or thier fans do...and in the end it means nothing but i felt the need to say it....that the cool/funny/witty manner in which its done doesnt' excuse the person from the violation of good taste...its a moral tripwire really....people are so detached yet so close b/c of television and the internet...like i can do terry schiavo jokes when im on stage but i recognize morally that its wrong...maybe the distance is what makes it ok for me to do it, because im not affecting anyone directly related to the tragedy...but never in a million years would i do schiavo jokes if i worked with her...or she was in my family...and i wouldnt do dead dog jokes either...they know the guy for christ's sake...how can some of these O&A fans not recognize that...how can they post pictures from the dead dog series with freda underneath a wheel with the caption "i trusted you you fat fuck"...how can they get death pools going on when bart's going to die...what the hell is the matter with some of these people...? <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif" border="0" /> It made my heart sing.

curtoid

07-11-2005, 01:33 PM

<a href="http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2005_07_11/radiohost.asp">http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2005_07_11/radiohost.asp</a>Monday, July 11, 2005  Radio Host Don Geronimo's Wife Dies In Car Accident     Freda Wright-Sorce, the wife of 23 years of Westwood One-syndicated Don and Mike Show co-host Don Geronimo (a.k.a. Mike Sorce), died late yesterday from injuries sustained in a head-on collision on an Ocean City, MD highway. She was 50. According to Maryland State Police, Wright-Sorce was traveling westbound when she was struck by an eastbound SUV that crossed the median in an attempt to avoid a 10-car pileup that had already occurred. Wright-Sorce was flown to a shock trauma facility in Baltimore, where she died. The 22-year-old male driver of the SUV was treated and released."[Freda] was such an integral part of this program and an integral part of our lives," a subdued Mike O'Meara told listeners at the beginning of today's show, based at Infinity FM Talker WJFK-FM/Washington. "We're all in shock today. You do not realize -- you cannot possibly realize -- how fragile life is until something like this happens so close to home. We're in a very awkward situation, and we will try to do the very best we can. We will try to play some tapes of Frida, if we find that we can. And we'll just go on and do a show." Don and Mike news anchor Buzz Burbank (a.k.a. Mike Elston) added, "[Don and Freda] were both a really great match. Their strengths really complemented each other."WJFK-FM SVP/GM Michael Hughes told R&R that information on where condolences may be sent is still forthcoming. He added that it was Geronimo's idea for O'Meara, Elston and show producer Rob Spiwack to go on the air today to talk about the tragedy and share their feelings with listeners.Besides Geronimo, Wright-Sorce is survived by the couple's college-aged son, Bart.

Dexter_In_DC

07-11-2005, 01:47 PM

O and A having class?  That's like saying Al Queda likes Americans.  I can already hear the jokes from O and A as well as Big O And Dukes in B-more.  O and A could not cut it on real radio, so they had to go to XM.  Rather you like Freda or not, her death is really not something to be poking fun at and of course, those two degenerates will poke fun at anyone or anything if they think it will get them listeners.

freedarocco

07-11-2005, 01:51 PM

Sorry, my fingers are a tad chunky....FMJeff, your post was right on and true to life.  Don't get me wrong, I love the inappropriate jokes, comments, stick, whatever you want to call it, but there is a line that you shouldn't cross, no matter what the circumstances.  Being a fan of O&A, I'm not surprised that some of their mongoloid listners would post such attrocities.  Some of them are defintily hell worthy offenses...it's depressing.  I'll say it again but the O&A response to this awful incident was extremely sincere and kinda tugs at your heart strings...especially Lil Jimmy.  I just hope that people take this for what it is and realize that this is not fodder for a zany post... it's not a laughing matter.  Once again, grow the fuck up and show some respect for the fallen.R.I.P. Freda Scorse

Heather 8

07-11-2005, 01:57 PM

quote: O and A having class?  That's like saying Al Queda likes Americans.  I can already hear the jokes from O and A as well as Big O And Dukes in B-more.  O and A could not cut it on real radio, so they had to go to XM.  Rather you like Freda or not, her death is really not something to be poking fun at and of course, those two degenerates will poke fun at anyone or anything if they think it will get them listeners.Apparently you didn't bother reading the earlier posts... the ones quoting Anthony and Jim Norton as giving their condolences and severely admonishing some of their fans for their heartless celebration.But why bother?  Why shatter your view of a show you clearly despise? 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/RFPeachy/RFnetPeachy.jpg
Thanks WWFallon!

You can be disappointed, but you cannot walk away. This fight has just begun.

ozzie

07-11-2005, 02:01 PM

I listened to the D&M show almost daily for many years in the early and mid 90's, and sporatically since then (they were taken off the air down here and I've only caught them every now and then online).  As with many "Talk Radio Personalities" that I listen to, it was impossible not to become interested in their personal lives as well, and tune in daily for updates, and wait for them to come back from vacation, and look forward to their stories as I would a friend.  I listened to Bart "grow up" on the air, and anyone who listened to the show regularly couldn't help but learn about Don's personal life and family (whether you liked it or not).  I was going through my divorce around the same time Mike (O'Meara) was, and it became almost comforting listening to the show, and I was even motivated to call and email a few times, and I've never done that before or since.  As Ron and Fez fans, I'm sure that most of you can relate, and my heart went out to Fez the same way after his grandmother died and he went through his "breakdown".  These "personalities" eventually feel like "friends", especially the ones who "let us in" and really let us get to know them, personally.I really don't know what my point here is, I guess I'm just rambling because I'm at a loss for words, and surprised (and a little embarrassed) how sad this news makes me.  I would be sad at the news of hearing that anyone lost their wife, or mother, but the fact that I knew a little more about how much Don loved her, and what a great mother, and close relationship Bart had with his parents, makes it even worse.My thoughts and prayers are with Don and Bart, and the entire Don and Mike show family and friends.

Dexter_In_DC

07-11-2005, 02:02 PM

Why would I listen to O and A?  I can hear the same stuff from two drunk men at a bar.  O and A are a joke. And of course those simpletons are gong to say nice things, their handlers told to cut back on the jokes or they would have listeners mad.

FlashVirus

07-11-2005, 02:05 PM

quote:O
and A having class? That's like saying Al Queda likes Americans. I can
already hear the jokes from O and A as well as Big O And Dukes in
B-more. O and A could not cut it on real radio, so they had to go to
XM. Rather you like Freda or not, her death is really not
something to be poking fun at and of course, those two degenerates will
poke fun at anyone or anything if they think it will get them listeners.

read this: "Op, Ant, myself and the rest of the show staff learned about Freda
Sorce’s death this afternoon as did most of you. We are obviously
stunned by it. We’ve all lost people we love and it’s never supposed to
happen so unexpectedly. People you love are supposed to grow old with
you and fade slowly, not kiss you goodbye and never come home. I am
sure the listeners understand that when something horrible like this
happens, all meaningless radio squabbles prove to be exactly that;
meaningless. 99% of the listeners will know this intuitively; I am
explaining this to the 1% who may not. Freda was part of a radio show
we went back and forth with, but more importantly, she was a wife and a
mother. Don, Bart and the rest of their family have had their lives
completely and irreversibly altered. We can control the way we handle
and address things on the air, but we cannot control the way listeners
respond. I am asking on behalf of the show that all of you display the
same respect for Don and his family that we intend to. Not because it’s
‘politically correct’ or for fear of corporate retribution, but because
on a human level, it’s the way any of us would want to be treated if it
were our own families. jim " 
 

This message was edited by FlashVirus on 7-11-05 @ 6:05 PM

celery

07-11-2005, 02:09 PM

quote:Why would I listen to O and A? I can hear the same stuff from two drunk men at a bar. O and A are a joke. And
of course those simpletons are gong to say nice things, their handlers
told to cut back on the jokes or they would have listeners mad.

 
If you can't see that this goes beyond any radio war, you have a very twisted perspective of the world. 


This message was edited by celery on 7-11-05 @ 6:10 PM

HBox

07-11-2005, 02:09 PM

Why would I listen to O and A?  I can hear the same stuff from two drunk men at a bar.  O and A are a joke. 
And
of course those simpletons are gong to say nice things, their handlers
told to cut back on the jokes or they would have listeners mad.
Here's an idea! Let's not use a fucking thread
about a man's dead wife to push your agenda about a radio
show! 

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3254/sig7oo.jpg

mikeyboy

07-11-2005, 02:10 PM

quote: quote: Why would I listen to O and A?  I can hear the same stuff from two drunk men at a bar.  O and A are a joke.  And of course those simpletons are gong to say nice things, their handlers told to cut back on the jokes or they would have listeners mad.  Here's an idea! Let's not use a fucking thread about a man's dead wife to push your agenda about a radio show! Agreed.  Knock it off. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy"> Ron & Fez Show Log (http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm); Daily News Scratch N' Match is the Devil The Music Mikey Likes Show on RadioBBQ, weekdays 11:00 am - 1:00 pm (http://www.radiobbq.net) Now with new theme song (http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3) by BoBoGolem

whitefolks

07-11-2005, 02:21 PM

As a fan of both O&A and R&F I was reading through most of
the readers rants at one of the O&A message boards, and reading
some of them make me sick to be part of the human race.

ADF

07-11-2005, 02:40 PM

That really sucks.  It's terrible when these things happen. 

<center><a href="http://somesuch.org" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="http://www.somesuch.org/sigpics/safetyadf.png"></a> And that's the end of my show.. donk.</center>

Heavy

07-11-2005, 02:47 PM

Well First off I'll say that I'm saddened by the news and wish her family and friends the best.Now how the fuck is this discussion more about O&A and whats funny or not funny?  The people in here are the ones deciding what they type and theyve took this off in a shitty direction.  If youre so proper and realize right from wrong, then take all these debates and arguments somewhere else.  Even if youre right and the other person is wrong youre still wrong for taking a death thread and talking about all sorts of other shit in here.  SKW, you needed to post 30 times in here asking random questions and answering hypothetical ones.  I didnt read shit past what was posted around 2 or 3 today so i dont know whats yall are talking about now, but im sure it isnt about her death

http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=JohneeWadd

A proportionate amount of props are equally distributed to my
nigga's Fluff, Alexxis, CanOfSoup15, WWFallon and Katylina

HORDE KING FOREVER!!!

ORACLE NEVER!!!

scorpion

07-11-2005, 02:51 PM

WOW I have listned to Don and Mike and their show is not much to my liking.  But that is my taste only.  Others I am sure enjoy the show or it would have been gone a long time ago.With all that said I am deeply sorry to hear of the trajedy and my heart goes out to Don and Bart.  I wish as much comfort and hope in this time of need.Take care and God be with you..

<img src="http://www.healthytraining.com/rf/kittycar.jpg">

Now I'm starvin

FMJeff

07-11-2005, 02:56 PM

I just wanted ot say I was NOT pushing an agenda, was merely shocked by the fan reaction to her death and what I felt were the motivations behind it....this had absolutely all to do with her and not some alterior motive of mine...i dont think i have to prove im a fan of both shows and have been for quite some time...

<center><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif">
 
It made my heart sing.

Reephdweller

07-11-2005, 02:56 PM

Now how the fuck is this discussion more about O&A and whats funny or not funny?  The people in here are the ones deciding what they type and theyve took this off in a shitty direction.  If youre so proper and realize right from wrong, then take all these debates and arguments somewhere else.  Even if youre right and the other person is wrong youre still wrong for taking a death thread and talking about all sorts of other shit in here.  Wadd, I completely agree. I also don't really get why people feel the need to argue about every thing there is and pit one thing against another, especially in light of everything that has happened. I'm listening to the show right now, I'm pretty sure it's a really tough one for Mike and the guys to do, though I commend them for being really great friends and doing the show in her honor. I mean I'm still stunned like everyone else about hearing this.

<center><IMG SRC="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=3">

Reefy's website... (http://www.osirusonline.com/)</center>

<center>Check out The Ron and Fez Show Logs...UPDATED!!!!! (http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm)</center>
<marquee behavior=alternate bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Right now you could care less about me...
but soon enough you will care, by the time I'm done</marquee>

blacknoi

07-11-2005, 02:58 PM

My condolences to the family and the show.

I think this issue, has been handled appropriately by this board.

_____

http://tinypic.com/6itqno.jpg

..and BOOM goes the dynamite!

FIG

07-11-2005, 03:02 PM

very sad news. I didnt listen to Don and Mike that much on WNEW but they had some funny moments the few times i listened. I cant even imagine the hell Don and bart are in right now, it must be devastating. youre used to coming home and seeing someone there waiting for you every night to not have that now will most likely be very difficult.

Tenbatsuzen

07-11-2005, 03:05 PM

It's times like this when I'm ashamed to be a fan of the O&A show when other mindless zombie assholes act like this.I put this on Postwhores, and I'm probably going to put it on OAU, but this is for everyone at Wackbag, dot net, and ANYONE who finds any sort of humor in this situation: Let me humanize this for a lot of people, so people see the utmost stark reality here... There is a fine line between the RADIO world - and the REAL world. Yes, Don and Mike and O&A don't like each other.  There are people in your job you don't like.  But do you really wish, deep down, inside, that the person you don't like goes home tonight and finds out that their wife or mother was in a car accident - a head on collision with an SUV when she's driving a sports car? That the accident is so bad that she'll probably need a closed casket funeral because probably most of her face and chest is missing? Think about that.  Do you really wish that on someone?  Because if you do, then you don't belong to the human race.My condolences to the Sorce family.

<center><img src="http://img227.echo.cx/img227/2240/ollie11po.jpg"></center>

Stomper90

07-11-2005, 03:14 PM

I suggst everyone goes to realradio.fm The Hideout is doing a fantastic tribute to Don and Freda and Bart.

Burntrail

07-11-2005, 03:17 PM

it's been 24 hours...   too soon?

Dirtybird12

07-11-2005, 03:22 PM

Yeah the Hideout is doing a classy job with this. I also thought it was a classy job RonFez.net did with the homepage 

<a href="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fakeband.jpg" border="0"></a>

PapaBear

07-11-2005, 03:30 PM

The Hideout is showing true class. It can't be easy considdering most
of their Orlando listeners probably don't know who Don is. Very good
job, boys! 

<center><img src="http://www.geocities.com/pauleight/pb_sig.gif"></center>
<center>Get Small</center><center>LENNY IS</center>
<center>Thanks Monsterone for the sig!</center>

TwiztidRock

07-11-2005, 03:41 PM

I am as hardcore of an OnA fan as there is.  I was totaly on thier side when they battled Don and Mike.  I never thought DnM were funny.  However, this is truely a sad day in the world of radio.  Whatever negative stuff you can say about DnM, and I can make a list, you also have to be fair, and say they did REAL radio.  They put themselves out there, and didn't hold back.  They put thier personnel lives on the radio on the air for everyone to listen to.  They didn't do fake bits, and they had a loyal following.   When OnA did the "what is on your local radio station" bit a few months ago, it made me realize how much fake garbage is out there.  While I can never truley say I would listen to, and enjoy the DnM show, I can also safley say it is one of the 10 best radio shows I have personally heard.  That says alot for the state of radio today.  I would even put the DnM show above Howard at this point.  When somehting like this happens, no matter show you are a fan of, you have to be sad for those affected.     The one day I listened to an entire DnM show was 9-11.  I just wanted to hear familiar voices giving me the news, and thier opinions.  Even though I was not a fan, DnM were at least familiar voices, and on that day, I was a fan.  Today I listened to the end of DnM show, and again, maybe only for one day, I was a fan again.  I hope Don can somehow recover from this, and see his way back to the Mic, and entertain those who do enjoy him, and the entire show.  I know OnA can be punks, and do a lot of tasteless stuff, but I know they are human beings, with feelings.  In my heart, I know they will do the right thing tomorrow morning, and pay proper respects to a member of the radio fratenity.     Also, mad props to the Hideout, who are doing one hell of a show right now.  _____________________ I got nothing, I can't spell, I'm not funny, I'm not Interesting, I suck, Big Ass Card #439, BAN ME!!!

This message was edited by TwiztidRock on 7-11-05 @ 7:43 PM

curtoid

07-11-2005, 04:07 PM

quote:I
listened to the D&M show almost daily for many years in the early
and mid 90's, and sporatically since then (they were taken off the air
down here and I've only caught them every now and then online). As with
many "Talk Radio Personalities" that I listen to, it was impossible not
to become interested in their personal lives as well, and tune in daily
for updates, and wait for them to come back from vacation, and look
forward to their stories as I would a friend. I listened to Bart "grow
up" on the air, and anyone who listened to the show regularly couldn't
help but learn about Don's personal life and family (whether you liked
it or not). I was going through my divorce around the same time Mike
(O'Meara) was, and it became almost comforting listening to the show,
and I was even motivated to call and email a few times, and I've never
done that before or since. As Ron and Fez fans, I'm sure that most of
you can relate, and my heart went out to Fez the same way after his
grandmother died and he went through his "breakdown". These
"personalities" eventually feel like "friends", especially the ones who
"let us in" and really let us get to know them, personally.I
really don't know what my point here is, I guess I'm just rambling
because I'm at a loss for words, and surprised (and a little
embarrassed) how sad this news makes me. I would be sad at the news of
hearing that anyone lost their wife, or mother, but the fact that I
knew a little more about how much Don loved her, and what a great
mother, and close relationship Bart had with his parents, makes it even
worse.My thoughts and prayers are with Don and Bart, and the entire Don and Mike show family and friends. Actually,
you did make a good point - a show like theirs, or like R&F, that
has been part of your life for so long that you take it for granted,
becomes a benchmark of your life. Back in 1992 I lost a good friend to
cancer, and I remember the first laugh I had was listening to them; I
also remember hearing Bart grow up, and have laughed at the white
trashiness of his family. Even if you weren't married with kids, there
were real life things that you could relate too. I'm sure them
doing the show today helped the listeners that got to know Freda
through the show, but I'm sure it also helped people who are just
dealing with loss in their regular lives. Sort of like you and the
divorce, etc. One of the calls in the last hour was from someone who
lost his wife in the last year - he had no advice, just wanting to give
his sympathy.God damn - I miss the Hideout. What classy, great guys.

mcsushi99

07-11-2005, 04:37 PM

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"><tr><td>Well, I just want to post how sad it was to hear that Don Geronimo's wife, Freda.When you listen to people every workday and they share so much of their lives with you, it's amazing how much you become part of the radio family. Freda was a welcome voice on the show and I'll miss her. I'm truly heartbroken for Don, their son Bart, Mike, Buzz, Rob A., and everyone that was close to Freda. We'll miss you sweet lady.    </td></tr></table>

www.dvdinmypants.com

Dirtybird12

07-11-2005, 04:45 PM

And btw the D&M show today was really moving.  They did a great job..considering the situation. Norton & Anthony showed a lot of class today. I have a new respect for them. I know it won't last, and they will piss me off again but still ...for today...they showed some class. 

<a href="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fakeband.jpg" border="0"></a>

rgar71

07-11-2005, 05:16 PM

unlike most, I read the entire thread before posting.  I don't post often but have to say that I am really quite proud to be R&F fans and a part, while small, a part of this website.  I've been a D&M fan since I was in middle school....when they first started on WAVA.  The news about Freida really struck me.  My prayers go out to her family and her radio family.  Also, believe it or not, I kinda get what Moe and Netzy were trying to say and without getting too wordy (like this post <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" />) it's hard to get across your whole point and do so without sticking your foot in your keyboard.  Anyway, I just wanted to say my part. BTW - I missed The Hideout's tribute. Any idea how I might get a copy?  I just put them on and you forget what a good show they put on.  I miss Dubs, especially.

Virginia fan from day one on JFK

JohnnyCash

07-11-2005, 05:22 PM

Im sorry to hear about this. Its very sad news.

<img src=http://www.christpuncherrecords.com/sigs/cash_monster.jpg>
Thank you Freakshow.

Potso-Mektoub

07-11-2005, 05:25 PM

R.I.P.

<img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/Potso-Mektoub/cap044s.png" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

Netzy

07-11-2005, 05:31 PM

Good D&M show today. I actually listened after dusting off the FM radio. (I may not have used that thing in over a year!)Believe
it or not, I do feel for the Sources (and did at the moment I first
heard it), but as Mike said today on the show, sometimes it's the fact
that you're tooling on something so awful that makes it funny. Although
I'm not a D&M fan (or listener for that matter), it's cool to see
so many fans so passionate about the show. Radio is a frigging powerful
medium.

El Mudo

07-11-2005, 06:11 PM

I lost my grandfather in December, and I remember how hard that was on my Gramma.  I remember how she didnt want to leave the cemetery and how painful that was.....I'm really at a loss for words, because I guess there's really nothing you can say to someone who loses a spouse, but situations like this remind us how important it is to tell the people you love how you feel about them every single day....Say it now because you never know....<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/sad.gif" border="0" />

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/elm_sig.gif
<marquee>....We haven't seen the sun since '71 </marquee>
Thanks Monsterone!!

Dale

07-11-2005, 06:48 PM

The bottom line is this: some of you are anti-social miscreants who crave attention by posting shocking comments. You guys need to grow up, and to get professional help. Death is never funny, and no matter how you felt about Don and Freda, this is a horrible tragedy and yes, even on a messageboard, you should show some class and show some respect for the dead. How did O&A get into this thread anyway? Some of you should look in the mirror and think about what you posted. Kudos to Mikeyboy, Mojo and the other Mods for stepping in and calling out the jerks.

MrMarcus

07-11-2005, 07:26 PM

This story has emotionally torn me up all day.  I wasn't a big fan of Don and Mike, but I did like his segments with Freda and Bart. When I heard about the accident, it almost felt like I lost a friend, even though I only knew of her from the show.  But what really got to me was what Bart must be feeling.  I too lost my mother at around the same age as Bart.  My mother was also the same age as Freda when she died.  I too was in college when it happened.  My life and family were changed forever.  My heartfelt condolences to Don, Bart, and their family.

WhistlePig

07-11-2005, 07:42 PM

[quote]quote:<hr color="cococo" align="left">This story has emotionally torn me up all day.  I wasn't a big fan of Don and Mike, but I did like his segments with Freda and Bart. When I heard about the accident, it almost felt like I lost a friend, even though I only knew of her from the show.  

I've been feeling the same way! And the worst is thinking of how he's going to feel after he finally falls asleep tonight but then wakes up and remembers she's gone. What a horrible, horrible feeling. My heart goes out to his family.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/WhistlePig/WhistlePigSig2.jpg

You don't know me man! You don't
know me man.

Evilpete

07-11-2005, 07:52 PM

As much as I think Don and his show is nothing more than a hokey
morning Zoo on Steroids, my prayers and thoughts go out to him.  I
know how it is to lose someone suddenly in an auto accident (i saw my
aunt get hit and killed by a speeding car on a major roadway before my
eyes).   I'm sorry I didn't go looking through
the other pages of this thread, but did they give any more details on
the other driver other thanhis name and age (drunk, etc.) and what
charges have actually been charged to him? 

http://members.aol.com/evilpete66/rfnetsigpic2

IM: Evilpete66
<li><a href="http://www.troubleintheterraces.blogspot.com/
">My Pathetic blog, read it and feel better about your life</a></li>

Tenbatsuzen

07-11-2005, 07:56 PM

quote: I'm sorry I didn't go looking through the other pages of this thread, but did they give any more details on the other driver other thanhis name and age (drunk, etc.) and what charges have actually been charged to him?   Apparently, he wasn't drunk, and he was barely injured.  He just swerved to miss a 10-car pileup accident on his side of the road, crossed the median, and hit Freda.  Haven't heard anything about charges.  

<center><img src="http://img227.echo.cx/img227/2240/ollie11po.jpg"></center>

Produceher

07-11-2005, 08:04 PM

<blockquote style="">quote:<blockquote style="">quote: And the worst is thinking of how he's going to feel after he finally falls asleep tonight but then wakes up and remembers she's gone. What a horrible, horrible feeling. My heart goes out to his family.  [/quote] [/quote]<blockquote style="">I know just what you mean. You wake up and your first thought is that it was just a dream. Than it sinks in that it wasn't. She's really gone.[/quote]<blockquote style="">This is definitely the weirdest feeling I've had for some time. I actually hated that damn show. When they (WNEW) sent R&F back to nights, I was stuck listening to D&M on my hour long commute in Middays. There was nothing else on so I listened every damn day. But I hated it. But I still got to know these people. And although the show didn't bring the funny (for me) it was a real show with real people. Who up until now, I thought I didn't care about. But I was wrong.[/quote]<blockquote style="">They did do an excellent 9/11 show as mentioned. My heart really goes out to ya Don and Bart. God Bless.[/quote]

fluffernutter

07-11-2005, 08:08 PM

My condolences and prayers to Don and his family during this time. God Bless. 
I always enjoyed hearing the calls in from Freda on the air and
you could just hear the love between them coming over the
airwaves.  I cannot even magine what he must be going through.It
is things like this that make me just want to make amends with those
from the past whom I may have had fallings outs with. It just makes one
realise how precious life is and how you just don't know what tomorrow
may bring. 


http://www.pleaseforgetme.com/SIGS/FRANCH.gif

Go eat one. While your at it put some new clothes on your dog. Asshole.

The Fluffy Planet (http://fluffyplanet.blogspot.com/)

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 08:19 PM

quote: The bottom line is this: some of you are anti-social miscreants who crave attention by posting shocking comments. You guys need to grow up, and to get professional help. Death is never funny, and no matter how you felt about Don and Freda, this is a horrible tragedy and yes, even on a messageboard, you should show some class and show some respect for the dead. How did O&A get into this thread anyway? Some of you should look in the mirror and think about what you posted. Kudos to Mikeyboy, Mojo and the other Mods for stepping in and calling out the jerks. To be fair, pretty much everyone here acted with some dignity and respect.  A few shots here or there at best, but let's not start laying any kind of blame.I'm really impressed with those statements I read by Norton and Anthony.  Not to continually degarde this monstrous issue with a radio "war," but that's pretty classy, given what some of their "fans" are clamoring for.The details Tenbats brought up about the other driver are personally depressingly familiar.  My older cousin Denny has been in a Florida jail on manslaughter charges for almost 3 years because of a similar incident.  He was driving home on the highway late at night, came over a hill to encounter a 4-car pile-up over the traffic lanes, swerved to the median to get out of the way, and ended up hitting a mini-van there emergency parked (it had been rear-ended by one of the other cars, very minor).  My cousin escaped any major injury, but tragically killed the baby strapped into the mini-van when he hit it (the van had parked maybe a minute, tops, before my cousin hit it).  Awful, awful situation, and the only reason he didn't get MORE time was because the parents of the child didn't want to push for it.  It was the state that got him the time he's served thus far.Scary, scary stuff...it's one thing when you've got a drunk driver out there, but when these things just...happen, it's goddamn terrifying.  So random and senseless.  

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

SLCRagu

07-11-2005, 08:20 PM

quote: 
This
is definitely the weirdest feeling I've had for some time. I actually
hated that damn show. When they (WNEW) sent R&F back to nights, I
was stuck listening to D&M on my hour long commute in Middays.
There was nothing else on so I listened every damn day. But I hated it.
But I still got to know these people. And although the show didn't
bring the funny (for me) it was a real show with real people. Who up
until now, I thought I didn't care about. But I was wrong. 
     
My sentiments exactly, I never really hated the show but the Don and
Freda segments used to get on my nerves to the point where I'de have to
turn off the show.  Yet, the empathy I'm feeling for Don and Bart
is unbelievable considering I've never met these people, and if you
asked me a few days ago I would've said I could'nt stand them. 
She was a strong, vibrant woman who seemed like a good person most of
all. 

<img width="227" height="127" border="0" src="http://greg.org/images/sforza_mission_accomplished.jpg" />

mothershucker

07-11-2005, 08:59 PM

Well, I can honestly say this does not effect me in any way. I do not feel saddened as I did not know this woman. Being a hard core O and A fan though, did not in any way make me happy when I heard the news this woman had passed. Anyone who did get any joy out of her passing, is, well, quite ill. I don't know if I am a stone hearted man, because even when I found out Opie's Dad died, and Fez's Grandma had passed, I did not really feel sad, even though these people have entertained me for over six years now. If someone I know dies, it sure as hell affects me, but I am sorry, an entertainer who I do not know loved one passing does not make much of an impact on me. That being said, respects to the family go out from my drunk ass.

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:04 PM

quote: Well, I can honestly say this does not effect me in any way. I do not feel saddened as I did not know this woman. Being a hard core O and A fan though, did not in any way make me happy when I heard the news this woman had passed. Anyone who did get any joy out of her passing, is, well, quite ill. I don't know if I am a stone hearted man, because even when I found out Opie's Dad died, and Fez's Grandma had passed, I did not really feel sad, even though these people have entertained me for over six years now. If someone I know dies, it sure as hell affects me, but I am sorry, an entertainer who I do not know loved one passing does not make much of an impact on me. That being said, respects to the family go out from my drunk ass. I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker Glad someone finally said it.  Hope it doesn't get edited. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

SilentSpic

07-11-2005, 09:11 PM

I don't give a shit nor do I care.... When I die...fuck... it's
life...!  Search my previous posts... I don't give a fuck!   COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production <a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"></a>

This message was edited by SilentSpic on 7-12-05 @ 1:16 AM

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 09:13 PM

Come on, man.  There's no point to be made.  All he said is he doesn't feel sad, and last time I checked, nobody was saying anyone HAD to be sad over this...just to show a little respect or keep on walking.  That's it.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

OABooger

07-11-2005, 09:17 PM

Entertainment is entertainment.  To be stuck in this radio war when something so real and tragic has happened is quite pathetic.  They are all great entertainers, like em or not (AFRODM).  <div> </div><div>Lets not divert attention from what happened.  A life was ended and its just FUCKED up no matter how you try to measure it up.  A young child to go through life without the the presence of his mother, A man stripped of his soul-mate, A radiant woman abruptly taken away.  These are the things that matter.</div><div> </div><div>I too feel saddened but not greatly affected, like the last two posters.  BUT, I feel empathy for a man and child in grief, regardless of who they were.  </div><div> </div><div>I know that the bboys are going to make a beautiful tribute to this tragedy like our sadistic boys in Florida did today.  </div><div> </div><div>And yes, today the OA fans are not pests, but animals (the 1% of them) that are too stupid to disassociate entertainment from reality.  To wackbag... FUCK YOU.</div><div> </div><div>Finally, grave condolences to Don And Bart.</div>

SilentSpic

07-11-2005, 09:19 PM

Show a little respect? Fuck that!  Don and Mike or Who ever are
never going to show respect to my family nor I...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... HAHAHAHAH....HAHAH... 

<center><a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" border="0" title="Opie & Anthony at Boston"></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production</center>

Tenbatsuzen

07-11-2005, 09:21 PM

quote:    The one day I listened to an entire DnM show was 9-11.  I just wanted to hear familiar voices giving me the news, and thier opinions.  Even though I was not a fan, DnM were at least familiar voices, and on that day, I was a fan.  Today I listened to the end of DnM show, and again, maybe only for one day, I was a fan again.  I hope Don can somehow recover from this, and see his way back to the Mic, and entertain those who do enjoy him, and the entire show.  I know OnA can be punks, and do a lot of tasteless stuff, but I know they are human beings, with feelings.  In my heart, I know they will do the right thing tomorrow morning, and pay proper respects to a member of the radio fratenity.  That sums up my feelings exactly.  I wasn't a huge fan of D&M, but them closing their show with Ray Charles' "America the Beautiful" on that awful day gave me a little sembelance of that things might get back to normal.I was a complete basket case that day, and D&M brought a bit of normalcy.  I guess?  I don't know.

<center><img src="http://img227.echo.cx/img227/2240/ollie11po.jpg"></center>

OABooger

07-11-2005, 09:21 PM

yeah, but we pay respect for pple not because we would want them to do that for us, but because it is the right thing to do.  Remember learning right vs wrong?  That's just fucked up man... cmon...

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 09:25 PM

quote: Show a little respect? Fuck that!  Don and Mike or Who ever are never going to show respect to my family nor I... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... HAHAHAHAH....HAHAH... <a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img title="Opie & Anthony at Boston" src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" border="0" /></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production Feel better, big man?Let it go.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

SilentSpic

07-11-2005, 09:27 PM

I can hold a grudge... it will never go away! 

<center><a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" border="0" title="Opie & Anthony at Boston"></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production</center>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:30 PM

OK, for the record again, I don't want to disrespect his wife or make light of the situation.  I just found myself agreeing with mothershucker.  I don't want to laugh at their tragedy but I don't know the people, I feel kinda bad for them but it doesn't effect me.  No one did a goodbye show for my Aunt who died at 29 with Cystic Fibrosis or my grandfather who died a confused old man gasping for air over 3 torturous days.I understand your point Silent Spic.  No one's going to be doing a Farewell show for Death Metal Moe either, but there's little to be gained by running in here and saying all of that right now.  That's why I'm laying low during this.  Let everyone say whatever respectful thing they want and maybe we should all open another thread to talk about the other topics that have come up in here.  I'd love to discuss it.  I don't even want to get into it in here for fear of looking like I'm trying to derail an otherwise calm thread.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

SilentSpic

07-11-2005, 09:34 PM

Well said!  Well said, Moe!!! 

<center><a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" border="0" title="Opie & Anthony at Boston"></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production</center>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:38 PM

Thanks bro.  I am REALLY feeling the other side of this topic, and I want to make sure people like you aren't just disregarded as "uncaring assholes" and dogpiled on.  You make a great point, and I just think the laughter might have been over the top, but that's none of my business.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:39 PM

quote: I can hold a grudge... it will never go away!I can hold a grudge... it will never go away!  <a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img title="Opie & Anthony at Boston" src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" border="0" /></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA ProductionYes.  Never..... 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 09:43 PM

What point?  Jesus Christ...of course none of us expect a "memorial show" when we or our loved ones die.  The lengths people are willing to go to to find SOME way to criticize the people involved in this situation are just ridiculous.Two words...SELF CONTROL.  Do you NEED to be critical of Don, his show or his wife in a thread like this, at a time like this?  Of course not.  What's wrong with acting like adults and showing some dignity?  The world will get by without snide little "points" being made.  Nothing is lost if it's not preached to the board.And SS...you hold a "grudge?"  Over what?  Did D&M key your car or something?  Grow up.Just try and push me on this.  Wise up and move along.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 7-12-05 @ 1:45 AM

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:45 PM

The world will get by with whatever points we see fit to bring up without being disrespectful.  We're not tearing anyone down, so put your ULTRA SENSITIVE RADAR away and stop trying to make us seem like monsters because we're not responding with the standard "My Condolnenses, it really makes you thinkg" response.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

SilentSpic

07-11-2005, 09:49 PM

What I have previously posted is not for laughts!I actually do not care! Life is Life... its bound to happen..Sorry if you are a radio personality, Don, but that's not going to change my feelings! I do apologize for derailing the thread! Edit:
Push you on what, mojo!  I am just telling all of you my
feelings!  Am I doing something wrong?  This is an opening
forum.  I am not agreeing with all of ya... that happends! 


<a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img border="0" title="Opie & Anthony at Boston" src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" /></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production

This message was edited by SilentSpic on 7-12-05 @ 1:53 AM

Tenbatsuzen

07-11-2005, 09:49 PM

And SS...you hold a "grudge?"  Over what?  Did D&M key your car or something?  Grow up.Growing up is all his sub-five-foot frame could hope for.SS, you are completely classless in this case - heed what Mojo says and knock it off.  You're not cool and original.A little more perspective:You know Ron reads this site and you know Ron has a friendship with Mike.  Every time you disrespect what's happened, you're pissing on a friend of Ron's.  

<center><img src="http://img227.echo.cx/img227/2240/ollie11po.jpg"></center>

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 09:50 PM

I'm not trying to "paint anyone as monsters."  In fact, I've gone out of my way to suggest that nobody should do that to anyone in this thread because nobody has really crossed that line.  My only point is what I just said...do you feel some need to bust in here and disrupt the parade of condolences?  Maybe that's all people WANT to post or read during all this.  Think twice, move on and let it go.  Nobody's stopping you guys from having it in for D&M...I'm no fan myself.  This simply isn't the thread or the time to try and skillfully sneak those sentiments in (or bash us over the head with them, like SS did).Let's just all step back, myself included, and let this one drop.  I'll be the bigger man and punch out first. Tenbats, you too.  This isn't the place to get an even bigger argument going.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 7-12-05 @ 1:52 AM

ChickenHawk

07-11-2005, 09:53 PM

SS, you don't HAVE to care. But if you don't care, don't bother weighing in on it. You don't show up at someone's memorial to let the people there know how little you give a shit... Granted, this message board is far from a memorial site, but it's the same concept.

<IMG SRC="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=ChickenHawk"> HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <strike>Shock</strike> <marquee behavior=alternate>EMFA</marquee>[color=white]

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:54 PM

Actually my feelings on the Don and Mike show haven't been mentioned once.  It's was always more a discussion about how we laugh at tragedy and now we're supposed to be nice during this one, and then the fact that some of us just don't feel all broken inside when people we don't know die.  And if you want to see a REAL interruption in the thread go look at that bullshit  that popped up when people misjudged who was calling who an elitest.  I think our points have taken up far less room and interrupted far less respectful posts.  Either way, I don't care.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:54 PM

Uhh, you people make my fucking head hurt sometimes, you know that? 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

valhallan

07-11-2005, 09:55 PM

I haven't even read through all the crap in this thread, but the apparent fact that some are making light of this situation makes me want to puke.  Of course, how could I expect anything less from a bunch of f-ing innernet losers?RIP Freda... you were far too young

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 09:57 PM

quote: I haven't even read through all the crap in this thread, but the apparent fact that some are making light of this situation makes me want to puke.  Of course, how could I expect anything less from a bunch of f-ing innernet losers?RIP Freda... you were far too young Shut your mouth.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

TheMojoPin

07-11-2005, 09:59 PM

quote: I haven't even read through all the crap in this thread, but the apparent fact that some are making light of this situation makes me want to puke.  Of course, how could I expect anything less from a bunch of f-ing innernet losers?RIP Freda... you were far too young Easy there.  This whole thing has been very civil, despite some disagreements here and there.  Don't jump to conclusions.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

SilentSpic

07-11-2005, 09:59 PM

quote:quote: I
haven't even read through all the crap in this thread, but the apparent
fact that some are making light of this situation makes me want to
puke. Of course, how could I expect anything less from a bunch of f-ing
innernet losers?RIP Freda... you were far too young Shut your mouth.  THANK YOU, MOE! <blockquote />

<center><a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" border="0" title="Opie & Anthony at Boston"></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production</center>

valhallan

07-11-2005, 10:01 PM

quote: quote: I haven't even read through all the crap in this thread, but the apparent fact that some are making light of this situation makes me want to puke.  Of course, how could I expect anything less from a bunch of f-ing innernet losers?RIP Freda... you were far too young Easy there.  This whole thing has been very civil, despite some disagreements here and there.  Don't jump to conclusions. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..." Apparently I didn't.

Death Metal Moe

07-11-2005, 10:05 PM

Beh, some guy pops his head in here and accuses people with some different opinions on the topic of being fucking animals?  Whatever Mr. 4 posts.  No one has disrespected the family, but I don't have to validate myself or my position to you.  Do some research before you open your yap, and make sure you understand all the big words we type.Good Night.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

HBox

07-11-2005, 10:09 PM

Nobody is saying that some of you are horrible
for not feeling anything about this. But why post that in this thread
this soon? Can't wait a couple of days? Just out of courtesy to the
people who DO care. Have some constraint for a little while. Just avoid
the urge to hit that reply button if you have nothing nice to say.We can have a civilized, controlled dialogue about this when emotions aren't so high. 

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3254/sig7oo.jpg

OABooger

07-11-2005, 10:13 PM

bravo hbox.  Excellent point.  If Moe was talking about my "animals" comments i made about wackbag fans, the 1% of them, making light of this, i was talking about them not you guys.  But if you did not misunderstand me and still made that comment... go fuck yourself fuckface.  *> *> 

This message was edited by OABooger on 7-12-05 @ 2:13 AM

OABooger

07-11-2005, 10:16 PM

and just because you have 4, i mean 5 posts... it don't make you a bad person...

spoon

07-11-2005, 10:23 PM

Seriously people shut the fuck up!  I can't believe some people have to constantly make things about themselves, their agenda or start a idiotic debate in an inappropriate place.  Nobody gives a fuck about your points in here.  Move the fuck on!  If you have to be an asshole, why don't you show up at that funeral and see how you are received.  To turn this around and say nobody will do a radio show about "your" death is plain idiotic.  This is an awful way to lose a loved one, no question about it.  If you feel the need to be a total ass, go post on another site.  I'd rather talk to someone else if that's the case any way.  Fan or not, why even mention it.  As a person, I'm sorry for the loss of a mother, wife and friend to many others.  My condolences to all hurt by this. 

<img src="http://members.aol.com/dxixrxt/spoon2.jpg">

Get your balls out of your purse and step up to flavor!
With whale cancer!
F yeah!

SilentSpic

07-11-2005, 10:25 PM

quote:and just because you have 4, i mean 5 posts... it don't make you a bad person...

 Evidently with you, it does! 

<center><a href="http://silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=69"><img src="http://silentpix.com/images/mysigs/rotate.php" border="0" title="Opie & Anthony at Boston"></a> COS15, Freakshow, Kevin, M1, & PanterA Production</center>

OABooger

07-11-2005, 10:26 PM

i've read the last two pages over again... and ... moe and ss, go fuck yourselves.  this isn't the place for that shit.<div> </div><div>I think we should just say a prayer and go to sleep.</div>

OABooger

07-11-2005, 10:29 PM

in light of whats going on... <div>i'll just back out.  Some a-holes just want to make everything about themselves.  You both prove it over and over again, thread after thread.  </div><div> </div><div>Can't you just say something nice about freida and move on?  I'm this close of wishing the same on you... this close...</div>

SatCam

07-11-2005, 10:38 PM

My condolences to Don's family

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/SatCam/sig95_general_martha.jpg" align="right" alt="I'd hit it" />

[ X ][color=white]

King Imp

07-11-2005, 10:43 PM

quote: I can hold a grudge... it will never go away! A grudge, huh? Enlighten us Angel Cordero Jr., what exactly did Don & Mike SPECIFICALLY do to you to justify a grudge?

PapaBear

07-12-2005, 01:54 AM

I love this quote. It represents what anyone, who has ever had this in a loved one, cherishes."It
would always be Freda who would be the great arbiter of what would be
done on the show," O'Meara said. "If  we were going down a road
where we would be going too far, she would call in and say, "What are
you doing?"    

<center><img src="http://www.geocities.com/pauleight/pb_sig.gif"></center>
<center>Get Small</center><center>LENNY IS</center>
<center>Thanks Monsterone for the sig!</center>

Death Metal Moe

07-12-2005, 03:11 AM

quote: i've read the last two pages over again... and ... moe and ss, go fuck yourselves.  this isn't the place for that shit.*> <div />*>I think we should just say a prayer and go to sleep. <div /> Well I'm up again and you can eat me.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

curtoid

07-12-2005, 04:01 AM

Washington Post ran a brief blurb this morning; Baltimore Sun,
WUSA-TV and WTOP all ran the Associated Press article. The DC Examiner,
however, did write an original article (I'm having linking issues; I'll
link it later - it was pretty good).Really impressed to hear
that the Hideout did what they did last night. D&M really liked
them, and tried to do whatever they could "for Alex and Justy." Not
quite the mentors that Ron and Fez were, Don and Mike did enjoy seeing
themselves 20 years ago in Jefe &  Dubs.  You
didn't have to know her to relate to the story - take away who she was
married to, and it's simply one more example of how fragile life is. We
have these stories everyday. And of course, if we let ourselves get
burdened with grief at every accident we read about in the news,
there's no way any of us would be able to function. That's no reason,
imo, to try and take away someone else's feelings or emotions over
this. There were calls into their show yesterday from people who
related to what happen because they have lost a wife, or a mother, or a
loved one. There was a woman who met Freda once years ago and was
struck by her kindness. In the DCRTV mailbag, there are people
obviously working through their own emotions, and something public and
communal like this happen, and they feel they can participate, because
hopefully it will make them feel better. It might be easier for some
people to finally let out their hurt over someone they only knew as a
voice on the radio than it was for someone in their real life.  To
revisit something i wrote yesterday, last night I couldn't help but
think of myself when i was 20 and 21 - maybe my most fucked up time in
my life. Really at a crossroads; really uncertain of everything; really
a mess and potential embarrassment to my family. And the only way I
made it out of that time was because of my mother. I was always a
Mama's boy growing up, but then i went away to boarding school and
became a snotty, self absorbed teenager and pushed them away, and even
though i was slowly growiing up in collge, I made some horrendous
choices. I am not sure if i would have been able to have made it
without having her unbending support.

curtoid

07-12-2005, 04:02 AM

eh 


This message was edited by curtoid on 7-12-05 @ 8:06 AM

Doctor Manhattan

07-12-2005, 05:07 AM

quote:  ...No one's going to be doing a Farewell show for Death Metal Moe either, but there's little to be gained by running in here and saying all of that right now.   <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe" border="0" />  I'll do a Farewell Show for you:<img height="546" src="http://s1.imagesubmit.com/deadmetalmemorial.jpg" width="440" border="0" />I hope it doesn't happen soon, but I thought you'd like a peak while your still with us... 

<a href="http://www.xmradio.com"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border=0></a>

angrymissy

07-12-2005, 05:14 AM

A mature, tactful, respectful adult would know that it's extremely uncouth to post here just to say you don't care.  There's nothing more shameful than trying to draw attention to yourself when someone else has experienced a tragedy.My respects go out to the family.  I lost my mother suddenly when I was a teenager and it is one of the hardest things someone can go through to lose someone in the prime of their life.  I can only imagine the hell that Don is going through right now, when I heard about this it brought back memories of my father on the day my Mom died, and how unbelievably desperate he was in his grief and disbelief   <img height="100" src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/tiggy.gif" width="300" border="1" /> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." [ Theodore Roosevelt ]

This message was edited by angrymissy on 7-12-05 @ 9:17 AM

Death Metal Moe

07-12-2005, 06:07 AM

quote: I'll do a Farewell Show for you:<img height="546" src="http://s1.imagesubmit.com/deadmetalmemorial.jpg" width="440" border="0" />I hope it doesn't happen soon, but I thought you'd like a peak while your still with us... <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a> That's awesome man, thanks.  We should all be so lucky to get a sailor's send off when we go. 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Death Metal Moe

07-12-2005, 06:09 AM

So back on topic for a change.  On the Don and MIke show, did they say they were going to take some time off now that they were on and talked about her death or are they planning on doing shows without Don?

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

TheMojoPin

07-12-2005, 08:09 AM

quote: So back on topic for a change.  On the Don and MIke show, did they say they were going to take some time off now that they were on and talked about her death or are they planning on doing shows without Don? <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.unhallowed.com/">www.unhallowed.com</a> <a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</a> It wasn't very specific, but it seemed like Don wanted them on yesterday to talk to the listeners...I can't imagine them being live again today, though we'll see... 

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

Dirtybird12

07-12-2005, 08:16 AM

tho Mike did say a few times yesterday something to the affect of " myself, Buzz, Rob, BA and Joe are going to try and steer the ship until Don is ready to come back" 

<a href="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fakeband.jpg" border="0"></a>

TheMojoPin

07-12-2005, 08:24 AM

Right...I can't imagine Don being back for at least a couple of weeks, so the rest are gonna have to do shows without him.  I just figured they'd all be off the rest of this week since they were so close.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin">

1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

curtoid

07-12-2005, 09:16 AM

It sounded like they didn't have a real plan on what they were doing, and might even try to continue on this week. Since they don't do interviews with the media anymore, the best way to get the offical word out was to do their statement and move on with the show, and let people grieve with them. To people who knew her from the show, she was like their wife, mother, sister, best friend, so it made sense.

Dirtybird12

07-12-2005, 11:05 AM

Mike and Buzz have done shows before without Don and I thought they were really entertaining to listen to. And who knows, Don may be back sooner than we all think. I think everyone reacts/grieves differently. I DO think a lot of people choose to distract themselves by trying to stay busy. by the way - D&M are live today One of the worst times in dealing with the death of a loved one, is having to pack things away. Or deal witih the guilt of having to throw stuff away.  death sucks

<a href="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fakeband.jpg" border="0"></a>

Netzy

07-12-2005, 11:10 AM

I'm not a D&M fan in the slightest, but I'll be listening for the
next few days. I think it will be a good stretch of radio for the guys.
And I'll listen again for a few days whenever Don comes back.

Keotok

07-12-2005, 12:11 PM

I've been listening for the past hour or so, and the consensus is that
they will stay on the air without Don, and slowly turn the show back to
where it was.  They will continue to take the
grief/support/sympathy/homage calls, but will also at some point start
to do bits and interviews again soon taking everything one step at a
time.

Duke

07-12-2005, 12:27 PM

sad news.....my prayers go out to don 

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/duke799/PadresSig.bmp" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

saveopieanthony.net

07-12-2005, 02:15 PM

I feel for Don and his family and I'm sorry for their loss.  I know what it is like to lose a family member suddenly. I'm a big O&A fan and enjoyed the radio war between them, but this isn't part of the radio war.  I commend O&A this morning for not only eliminating any hijacks or comments that they could've been made, but for degrading listeners and messageboard people (yes, i'm starting to realize some people on wackbag are animals and should be treated as such) for making comments.  Also they defended the situation when a few fans called them hypocrits for NOT making jokes at this situation.  Some people were expecting some, but I wasn't due to the sudden nature of the situation.  O&A are self admitted scumbags, but somehow they discovered the "line".

Oavirus.com.

"None on us" O&A

"Billy Staples is a big waist" R+F

curtoid

07-12-2005, 03:53 PM

From the D&M Website: In Lieu of flowers please make a donation to the
Worcester Humane Society
P.O. Box 48
Berlin MD 21811They are accepting sympathy cards at the station, made out to "The Sorce Family."  I really liked what R&F had to say during their opening segment.

Death Metal Moe

07-12-2005, 03:55 PM

I guess this might put me out there again to look like a scumbag, but I am SO HAPPY they didn't make the whole show about Freda.  I don't want to hear that, and for people in the DC area, Don and Mike's show is the place to call in to talk about it.Thanks for being funny buddays.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

nik2k385

07-13-2005, 03:27 PM

Big Ass 14188  HOO AHI was really surprised to hear about it.  I heard on O and A's show.  They were very nice about the whole thing.Anyway
it comes as a bit of a shock because I used to listen to them every day
on 'NEW and I've been listening to them via the Undergound.  But
thats useless now since it's streamed legally.

old-fan

07-13-2005, 03:58 PM

i guess ill be the prick here.it surprised me O&A didnt do anything, but after hearing them i understood it because they knew her. ive
listened to the don and mike show for quite awhile, especially when
they were in ny with O&A and R&F. and ive heard them say the
most horrible, cruel things that only some douchebag like hoo hoo would
say about people wishing bad things on them and their families. so all i have to say to don is a big fuck you, karma is a bitch, now you reap what you have sown. 


 

This message was edited by old-fan on 7-13-05 @ 7:59 PM

bobrobot

07-13-2005, 04:05 PM

quote: karma is a bitch  Just wait til Karma runs over your Dogma, lowlife... 

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/bobomtnbanjo.jpg
"The book above all others which should be forbidden is a catalogue of forbidden books"

-Lichtenberg

Hottub

07-13-2005, 04:06 PM

guess ill be the prick here. Mission accomplished Ass-Wipe!

<img src=" http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/artemisentreri/hottub.gif"border=0 align=right>
so does that mean that it was
"THE ORANGE BOWL OF FAILURE?"
Staples
See The Cruising Vessel (http://www.silentpix.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Myalbums&file=thumbnails&album=41)
Check out silentpix.com

Tall_James

07-13-2005, 04:12 PM

so all i have to say to don is a big fuck you, karma is a bitch, now you reap what you have sown.You are a piece of shit without an ounce of compassion.  Your heroes (O&A) have gone as far as to call you and your types assholes for your lack of humanity in this matter.  So, how does that make you feel?  Do you feel betrayed?  If indeed Karma is indeed a bitch you'd best prepare for the shitstorm that is about to hit your own life.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=tall_james"> 

The Cheese-Eating Bird (http://cheeseeatingbird.blogspot.com)

FlashVirus

07-13-2005, 04:14 PM

why the fuk r u guys talking about karma. Karma doesn't even exist. Don will come back on the air when he is ready, That is what mike said. It will ofcourse take a while.

mikeyboy

07-13-2005, 04:20 PM

If you think someone deserves to have something this awful to happen to them, you are a complete ass.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=mikeyboy"> Ron & Fez Show Log (http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm); Daily News Scratch N' Match is the Devil The Music Mikey Likes Show on RadioBBQ, weekdays 11:00 am - 1:00 pm (http://www.radiobbq.net) Now with new theme song (http://www.ronfez.net/mediastorage/mikey/mikeyshowtheme.mp3) by BoBoGolem

old-fan

07-13-2005, 04:30 PM

quote: Your heroes
(O&A) have gone as far as to call you and your types assholes for
your lack of humanity in this matter. So, how does that make you feel?
Do you feel betrayed?<a href="http://cheeseeatingbird.blogspot.com" target="blank"></a> O&A are just entertainers if you think people on the radio are your heroes your an idiot, your nothing but a rating to them. thats
like saying the cast of friends are your heroes because you watch the
show and think its funny....go swallow some drano you ass.    and
if you constantly wish for tragedy to strike other people like don and
mike have you cant be surprised when it happens to you. 
 

This message was edited by old-fan on 7-13-05 @ 8:33 PM

Tall_James

07-13-2005, 04:45 PM

[EDIT]  fuck it.  you're not worth the response.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=tall_james" border="0" /> <a href="http://cheeseeatingbird.blogspot.com/" target="blank">The Cheese-Eating Bird</a>

This message was edited by Tall_James on 7-13-05 @ 8:46 PM

eldangerosso

07-13-2005, 04:46 PM

quote: quote: Your heroes
(O&A) have gone as far as to call you and your types assholes for
your lack of humanity in this matter. So, how does that make you feel?
Do you feel betrayed?<a target="blank" href="http://cheeseeatingbird.blogspot.com"></a> O&A are just entertainers if you think people on the radio are your heroes your an idiot, your nothing but a rating to them. thats
like saying the cast of friends are your heroes because you watch the
show and think its funny....go swallow some drano you ass. and
if you constantly wish for tragedy to strike other people like don and
mike have you cant be surprised when it happens to you. 
 

This message was edited by old-fan on 7-13-05 @ 8:33 PM  You are definitely someone who doesn't get it.  It would have been best for you not to say anything. 
<blockquote />

<img src="http://www.nuclearblender.com/images/sealab/sl_sparks.jpg">
Oops. Dart in your neck.

Bulldogcakes

07-13-2005, 05:15 PM

Radio "wars" among DJ's are one of the oldest bits in the business.
Notice how they're usually between hosts who work (or worked) for the same company?
Think thats an accident? Dont take these things too seriously. Glad to
see O& A showed a some class on this one. Good for them. 

<img border="0" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Kevin2700/cakescopy.jpg" />

<a target="blank" href="http://bulldogcakes.tripod.com/index.html">My brand spankin new site Bully Baby</a>

Do Siamese twins have to file seperate tax returns? Or do they file jointly?

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 7-13-05 @ 9:16 PM

O&AVIRUS&MORE

07-13-2005, 05:21 PM

quote:I
wonder if they are going to prosecute the guy who hit her head on. I
also hope O&A do not tool on this. this is not joking type
material, no matter how much you hate someone
<img border="0" src="http://home.comcast.net/%7Enickcontardo/rfnetjp.jpg" />

Thanks to Reef for my sig. You rock. Love Your Grandson Frank Begin your response here... They didnt and they really ripped Whackbag.com! 

LETS GET RETARDED IN HERE!

XM ONLINE, IT'S SWEEPING THE NATION: http://xampd.imomo.net/tracker/fsrfan142/EAB4BC1C8FE148FE111F13FC8DEDD93D/tracker.png

bobrobot

07-13-2005, 07:30 PM

Old-fan <img title="coat hanger" height="156" alt="coat hanger" src="http://www.designboom.com/history/wirehangers/h12.gif" width="275" border="0" />

This message was edited by bobogolem on 7-15-05 @ 9:36 PM

Duke

07-13-2005, 07:43 PM

shit i messed up this post lemme try this again

This message was edited by Duke on 7-13-05 @ 11:45 PM

samnyc

07-13-2005, 07:50 PM

damn that must have hurt.  your girl could have been smushed. a head on collision!  sorry man

Duke

07-13-2005, 07:51 PM

quote: i guess ill be the prick here.it surprised me O&A didnt do anything, but after hearing them i understood it because they knew her. ive listened to the don and mike show for quite awhile, especially when they were in ny with O&A and R&F. and ive heard them say the most horrible, cruel things that only some douchebag like hoo hoo would say about people wishing bad things on them and their families.so all i have to say to don is a big fuck you, karma is a bitch, now you reap what you have sown. This message was edited by old-fan on 7-13-05 @ 7:59 PM   thats super harsh...just because Don and Mike are corny (no offence to the listenrs who love them) doesnt mean Don doesnt have a heart he loved her a lot..thats just rude what you said...you wouldent want someone saying that to you if one of your loved ones died or maybe its that you have no family...no friends..nothing..and u turned into a bitter person...you know what u basically said "Don SUCK IT UP YOUR WIFE DIED BIG DEAL" and thats just rude...... 

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/duke799/PadresSig.bmp" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

O&AVIRUS&MORE

07-13-2005, 08:07 PM

quote:quote: i guess ill be the prick here.it surprised me O&A didnt do anything, but after hearing them i understood it because they knew her. ive
listened to the don and mike show for quite awhile, especially when
they were in ny with O&A and R&F. and ive heard them say the
most horrible, cruel things that only some douchebag like hoo hoo would
say about people wishing bad things on them and their families.so all i have to say to don is a big fuck you, karma is a bitch, now you reap what you have sown. This message was edited by old-fan on 7-13-05 @ 7:59 PM thats
super harsh...just because Don and Mike are corny (no offence to the
listenrs who love them) doesnt mean Don doesnt have a heart he loved
her a lot..thats just rude what you said...you wouldent want someone
saying that to you if one of your loved ones died or maybe its that you
have no family...no friends..nothing..and u turned into a bitter
person...you know what u basically said "Don SUCK IT UP YOUR WIFE DIED
BIG DEAL" and thats just rude...... 

<img border="0" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/duke799/PadresSig.bmp" />    Wow. Some people are true jack offs!  Not you, duke, but that idiot you quoted! 
<blockquote />

LETS GET RETARDED IN HERE!

XM ONLINE, IT'S SWEEPING THE NATION: http://xampd.imomo.net/tracker/fsrfan142/EAB4BC1C8FE148FE111F13FC8DEDD93D/tracker.png

curtoid

07-13-2005, 08:09 PM

I believe it was mentioned earlier, but I believe it's been buried
do to nonsense, but Mike mentioned today that Don said he would be back
on the show "sooner than people think." They mentioned they have a time
table, but right now was not the appropriate time to mention it. Don
talked with Rob about still wanting to do an open and honest show with
the listeners, but now the difference would be he is a widower and
dealing with all that he is dealing with. They also mentioned that Bart
is helping his father through this - really stepping up and helping him
make the tough decisions of where to go next.They made the
decision to go forward with the show to help the listeners who felt
they got to know Freda grieve as well - that it's helped them as much
as it's helped listeners. Mike is not comfortable running the ship, but
he's going to do the best he can. Everyone on the show appears to have
stepped up and is doing what needs to be done.In the time Don is
off the show, they are spending the first segment of the show talking
about things and letting callers call in on this topic. Then they try
and move on and do a "normal" show. To keep Don's pressence on the show
they devote one segment to a best of featuring Don - today's was a
pretty funny one from 2003 with their long time "wacky
listener/regular" Dennis Murphy, who has one arm and half a tongue, yet
felt the need to record an album ("One Arm / One Heart"). I
would love to have heard the Hideout segment from Monday, and find out
what the Junkies had to say. I did listen to the O&A opening
segment, and I still feel the best thing from that was Jim Norton's
really outstanding letter.  Very beautiful. Ron & Fez's first
segment yesterday was also brilliantly handled - that could not have
been a good time or place to have to come back and do that. So damn
sad. 
I think the reason it has affected people is not only because
people felt they knew her, but because it reminds them of situations
they have had to deal with, or situations they would never want to deal
with. Opie talked about how all day Monday he kept thinking of his
father's death, and the call he received. I know I empathized by
remembering friends who died in car accidents, by imaginging where I'd
be without my mother if I had lost her at a young age, and even of my
own god children and how it would ruin their lives if either of their
folks had a terrible accident.  Bottom line and above all,
though, Freda was a pretty cool woman. I always sort of pictured her as
the mother on "Home Improvement," but really she was much more than
that to a lot of people - as I said earlier, she was like a wife,
mother, daughter, sister, friend, aunt, neighbor. As R&F mentioned
on yesterday's show, for no reason what-so-ever, this last spring she
saw a throw-back Bucs jersey and bought it for Fez because she thought
he would like it. There wasn't a big thing made about it on either show
- it was just something nice a decent person does from time to time. I
apologize for keep coming back to this thread - things just come back
to me, and this is the most convenient place for me to vent and let go.

Death Metal Moe

07-13-2005, 09:08 PM

Ya know what, I defended a few people in here that I thought brought up good points in a respectful discussion on topics related to the death of Don's wife even when the sensitivity police tried to call me and them innature, uncaring, combative monsters, but old-fan, you're on your own.I HATE Don and Mike, but they're radio talk show hosts.  Of course they're gonna come off as assholes a lot.  They have to think things are stupid to talk about them, create controversy and keep their ratings up.  I hate the show's content, but as I've said over and over again in here, the man is entitled to a personal life.  And in that life he's sufferd a great loss.You know next to NOTHING about him personally, so for you to hate him based on his on air persona is so fucking stupid I can't think of things to type about it.  I fear you are one of these misguided fans who hate Don and Mike just because O&A hate them.  Its misguided hate and that annoys me.  Because Hate is such a natural, strong, almost beautiful human emotion that it shouldn't be wasted here on some radio personality.  Save your true HATE for those people and things that deserve it.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Death Metal Moe

07-13-2005, 09:10 PM

maybe its that you have no family...no friends..nothing..and u turned into a bitter personCareful little man, you're young and you don't know how easy it is to become bitter and hateful of even the most beautiful things in the world.  You don't know where people are coming from sometimes bro.

<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe">

<A HREF="http://www.unhallowed.com">www.unhallowed.com</A>
<A HREF="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</A>

Dale

07-13-2005, 09:21 PM

Prayers for Don and Bart.

danwrightlive

07-13-2005, 09:34 PM

quote: 
I think the reason it has affected people is not only because
people felt they knew her, but because it reminds them of situations
they have had to deal with, or situations they would never want to deal
with. 
 
very well said curtoid. all week my head has been clouded with the
memories of all the friends and family that i have lost in my life. as
a decade long listener i think back of all the days i spent more time
listening to freda talk than i did my own wife. this type of radio is
so personal and along with that comes passionate listeners. as we see
in this thread, that passion can breed love, hate and ignorance. the
love part of it is easy to understand and identify with. the hate and
ignorance part i will never understand, nor do i ever want to
understand it.