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Snoogans
06-22-2005, 04:23 PM
<p>yea, i figure its a good time to place some fake RFmoney bets.</p><p> </p><p>I set the over under for % of fly balls hitting the wall at 55% </p><p>also, the decrease in total home run over under is 73%</p><p> </p><p>the over under on broken bats revealing cork is 7</p><p>can
we at least let them use steroids for the derby, this is gunna blow,
especially when NY and boston vote everyone in so the derby ends up
with milar and giambi<br />
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Bulldogcakes
06-22-2005, 04:33 PM
I love that Home run derby. Beats the shit outta the all star game. <br />



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Snoogans
06-22-2005, 04:39 PM
yea but without the clear, it might be the warning track derby<br />


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Death Metal Moe
06-22-2005, 04:41 PM
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06-22-2005, 04:44 PM
I always did well on the video game versions with Jim Thome. Can I bet on him????

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Fallon
06-22-2005, 05:44 PM
Where is All-Star weekend this year? I hate when the derby is played during daylight. You can't even see the ball.<br />


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AppleBoy
06-23-2005, 04:54 AM
<p>The All Star festivities are in Detroit this year, Pittsburgh next year.</p><p>I'll put $100 fake RF dollars on Miguel Tejada to win the derby and $100 fake RF dollars on the under for fly balls hitting the wall.</p>

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Snoogans
06-23-2005, 07:04 AM
the tejada bet is fine, the wall balls was a joke. you could bet it, but im not about to figure out if you are right or not<br />


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AppleBoy
06-23-2005, 08:27 AM
<p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font></p>the wall balls was a joke <p>&nbsp;</p><p>It looked too good to be true and it was.&nbsp; I would have guessed about 5% for the wall balls but I wasn't about to sit around and figure it out either.</p><p>Instead, put the fake $100 on Alex Rodriguez to hit under 8 HR's in the first round.&nbsp; He's going to queef big time.</p><p>I think one of the Texas Rangers - either Kevin Mench or David Dellucci - will be the guy who hits more HR's than anyone expects.&nbsp; That is, of course, if they get invited.<br /></p>

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PhishHead
06-23-2005, 08:30 AM
<p>Depending on who is invited:</p><p>$100 on Teixeria</p><p>$100 on Dunn</p><p>$100 on Andruw Jones</p><p>If all 3 are invited, my money is on Teixeria.</p><p>If none of those are invited $100 on Arod.</p>

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Snoogans
06-23-2005, 08:31 AM
i hope someone plans to figure all this out, i was just tryin to make fun of roidless home run hitters<br />


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PhishHead
06-23-2005, 08:36 AM
i think it will be fine if you include Teix, Dunn, Jones, Derek Lee, Arod, Soriano,Carlos Lee&nbsp;and Pujols.&nbsp; All those guys are jacking the ball pretty well this year.&nbsp; <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=Phishhead" border="0" /> thanks to fallon and monsterone for the sigs.

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Snoogans
06-23-2005, 08:41 AM
assuming they all make it and want to compete. alot of guys dont always
wanna do it, like the dunk contest, and you have to actually make the
all star team, so im sure a couple guys we would wanna see may get
snubbed<br />


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Fallon
07-11-2005, 09:18 AM
<p>A. Jones</p><p><font color="#0000cc"><strong>D. Ortiz</strong></font></p><p>B. Abreu</p><p>J. Bay</p><p>H. Choi</p><p>C. Lee</p><p>I. Rodriguez</p><p>M. Teixeira</p><p>I gotta go with Big Papi tonight.&nbsp;</p>

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 09:32 AM
HEE SOP CHOI!?!?!?!?!&nbsp; are you fuckin kidding<br />


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JPMNICK
07-11-2005, 09:39 AM
<p>I am with Fallon, I think Ortiz is going to take it.</p><p>This years lineup is so boring though, so i may not even watch</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~nickcontardo/rfnetjp.jpg" border="0" /> Thanks to Reef for my sig. You rock. Love Your Grandson Frank</p>

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AppleBoy
07-11-2005, 09:57 AM
<p>I think Teixeira will take it this year.</p><p>That sucks that Tejada, Soriano and A-Rod got left out of it at the expense of promoting the upcoming World Cup of Baseball (or whatever they're calling it).&nbsp; Selig's gotta go.</p>

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WindowSill
07-11-2005, 01:16 PM
<p>Cant I just bet that everybody will have a good time?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Im
puttin $200 on Big Papi although Im going to be rootin for Mark
Teixeira all the way. Its pathetic to have Hee Seop Choi and Pudge
Version 2 (post-steroids) out there. Choi didnt even make the team, and
I believe Pudge only has 5 homers...&nbsp;</p>


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Bulldogcakes
07-11-2005, 01:38 PM
Not exactly Sosa vs McGwire this year, is it. <br />


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Heavy
07-11-2005, 02:56 PM
<p>the wall balls was a joke </p><p>Ok then be serious for a minute and tell the over/under for balls hitting your chin during the derby.</p>

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Bulldogcakes
07-11-2005, 04:32 PM
<p>Abreau just broke the record</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

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Duke
07-11-2005, 05:50 PM
<p>see we can still have a homerun derby minus steriods</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Abreau 24</p><p>Ortiz 17&nbsp;</p>

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07-11-2005, 05:54 PM
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ChickenHawk
07-11-2005, 06:04 PM
Well, at least steroids make for fun HR Derby's.

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 06:08 PM
<font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">the wall balls was a joke </font>

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Ok then be serious for a minute and tell the over/under for balls hitting your chin during the derby.</font></p>
<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>this from the guy who once claimed he &quot;doesnt stoop down to our level with the name calling and what not&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>it
goes from that to unprovoked name calling. i say shit to you all the
time, but only when you said something to cause it, and i dont sit and
act like i dont.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>GET A FUCKIN CLUE&nbsp;</p>

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HBox
07-11-2005, 06:12 PM
[color=navy]<font size="2">I'm really glad Bobby Abreu is gonna get some
attention now. He's the most under the radar superstar in MLB, and
deserves all the attention he's gonna get for this.</font><br />


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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 06:27 PM
<p>i hope he gets some attention from a Camden car thief</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>god i hate the phillies....and the eagles....and the flyers.....AND allen iverson&nbsp;</p>

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Fallon
07-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Damn Abreu, we're missing the softball game. I want to see Ruben Studdard run!<br />


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East Side Dave
07-11-2005, 06:58 PM
snoogans you have to be so embarrassed that johnny damon was prancing around on stage, trying to sing,&nbsp;with that awful band before the home run derby...same thing for piazza playing the air drums....douche chills to the max!!

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 07:04 PM
<p>Damon could be fuckin Millar up the ass for all i care, if he hits 360, put him in centerfield</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and
that crappy band is apparently creed with a new name and singer, and i
didnt know that til tonight, however i heard that song yesterday and
thought to myself how much it sounded like some creed song&nbsp;</p>

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East Side Dave
07-11-2005, 07:08 PM
<p>You would never see a Yankee All-Star up there....prancin' around like a little minx at happy hour....</p>

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 07:13 PM
i dont think any of them are on a 25 game hit streak either<br />


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East Side Dave
07-11-2005, 07:14 PM
<p>i'm gonna call him &quot;prancy-pants&quot; from now on...</p>

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 07:15 PM
im gonna call him johnny dimaggio<br />


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East Side Dave
07-11-2005, 07:17 PM
<p>i never saw joe d. on &quot;queer eye for the straight guy&quot;</p>

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 07:18 PM
<p>its dimaggio's fault that mantle's knees got fucked up</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

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07-11-2005, 07:21 PM
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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 07:23 PM
<p>i thought about that, but i just wanted to see if you would get it, and you did, so it kicked ass.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Joltin' Johnny Damon, so what if he's flamin'&nbsp;</p>

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07-11-2005, 07:26 PM
<p>Joltin' Johnny- The Red Sox Clipper. Of course by clipper I mean he styles the rest of the sox' hair...</p>

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07-11-2005, 07:29 PM
....i just realized that all these johnny damon insults will backfire on me&nbsp;since he's becoming a yankee next year...

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 07:33 PM
<p>he said himself he will never be a yankee, so yea</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>seriously
though, the only way the yanks get him is to be well over the next best
offer, and i dont think that will happen cause the sox could give him
just as much. you want him its gonna cost you 20 mill a year&nbsp;</p>

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Snoogans
07-11-2005, 07:38 PM
An amazing show by abreu. so amazing i hope he burned out and hits 3
HR's the rest of the season, even though that means he'll hit a ton of
singles and the douche will steal 50 bases<br />


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TheMojoPin
07-11-2005, 08:36 PM
<p>I'm sorry, the All-Star Break always has been, and always will be, SUPER-GAY.</p><p>I'm fiending for some real baseball, not this freakshow shit.</p>

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ChickenHawk
07-11-2005, 08:55 PM
I enjoy the All-Star Break... In a ridiculously long season where teams play 6 days a week, the players could use the break, and the guys who are involved in the activities are all having a good time. Although, I gotta say, I HATE the incorporation of lame-ass music, country bands, and guys like Uncle Kracker. That shit's just gay.<br><br>Also, Pedro is a massive pussy.<br><br>And Johnny Damon may be on a 25-game hitting streak, but he's not even HALF WAY to Joe D... Plus he bunted yesterday.

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Fallon
07-12-2005, 08:43 AM
<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">You would never see a Yankee All-Star up there....prancin' around like a little minx at happy hour...</font></p><p>At least Damon isn't a pretty boy fag like A-Rod last night. Not wearing his uniform like everyone else.</p><p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Also, Pedro is a massive pussy.</font></p><p>Why?&nbsp;</p>

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Snoogans
07-12-2005, 10:00 AM
pedro is a massive pussy cause he pitched 2 days ago so he doesnt wanna
go to the allstar game, and then have to wait longer to help his team.
If anything id say thats a guy you want, a guy concerned more with team
success then his own.<br />


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Snoogans
07-12-2005, 10:10 AM
<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">And Johnny Damon may be on a 25-game hitting streak, but he's not even HALF WAY to Joe D... Plus he bunted yesterday.</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>why
would it matter if he bunted? The whole purpose is to get on base, i
dont care if he throws a knife at the guy tryin to catch the ball to do
it. Also, i forgot you are so old you saw every game that Joe D played,
so you know 100% sure that he never had a bunt single or a ball that
shoulda been called an error or a straight up bad call help him. You
dont know that, these things are part of baseball.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>so i guess now Ichiro's hit record doesnt count cause he may have got some of those hits bunting&nbsp;</p>

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07-12-2005, 10:12 AM
and, as East Side Dave knows, Johnny Damon never caused the best player
on his team to have bad knees because he wouldnt go into the gap<br />


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terryc35
07-12-2005, 10:28 AM
<p>I saw that with A-Rod not wearing his uniform....there is just something about that guy that makes me hate him like fucking poison, and this dates back to way before he joined the dreaded Spankees.&nbsp; But I must say I never laughed as hard as I did when I was at game 6 last year and saw that half-a-fag bitch slap the ball out of Millar's hands....seeeing those 55,000 Yankee fans go nuts and knowing that it was going to be overturned was fantastic.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Snoogans
07-12-2005, 10:30 AM
i thought it was arroyo's glove, but yea that was funny. He even
slapped at it like a fag. I hadn't seen an athlete make such a pathetic
swipe at something since that larry johnson/alonzo mourning overhand
slap fest where each one connected on ZERO of the 5 punchslaps<br />


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terryc35
07-12-2005, 10:31 AM
you're right Arroyo came over to the line...my bad.

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07-13-2005, 05:44 AM
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Snoogans
07-13-2005, 08:08 AM
Yea ass. This was fake for 1, i only posted to make fun of what was supposed to be a sad, roidless all star game<br />


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Snoogans
07-13-2005, 08:46 AM
also, 60% of the bets i made the other day were the same bet, just with
multiple people. And i really thought i was gonna win darts, even
though it was fake darts. I only really bet on darts and major sporting
events<br />


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spoon
07-13-2005, 03:02 PM
<p>Too late to put some money on Jeter?&nbsp; Ooooppss!&nbsp; ahahahahahaah!</p><p>Then put my shekels on Joey Cora.</p>

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07-13-2005, 03:04 PM
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07-13-2005, 03:04 PM
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07-13-2005, 03:07 PM
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Bulldogcakes
07-10-2006, 04:14 PM
<p>ON right now ESPN. Anybody watching?</p><p>My $$ on Ryan Howard. Most underrated player in Baseball&nbsp;</p>

PhishHead
07-10-2006, 04:27 PM
<hr width="100%" size="2" /><hr width="100%" size="2" />Howard is very underrated, but I dont think he will win.&nbsp; Glaus or Dye will.&nbsp; Dye is the darkhorse i think.<br />

Tall_James
07-10-2006, 04:33 PM
<p>$5 says a dark skinned person wins it.</p>

cougarjake13
07-10-2006, 04:59 PM
<p>i dont know my boy david wright is killing this shit</p>

BoondockSaint
07-10-2006, 05:11 PM
<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i dont know my boy david wright is killing this shit</p><p>Damn straight.</p>

suggums
07-10-2006, 05:12 PM
ill bet a million dollars whoever i want to win will win<br />

stickyfingers
07-10-2006, 05:25 PM
umm...HR's carry over this year?&nbsp; Wright is in a good spot if Ortiz doesn't rattle off like 6 in a row here.

stickyfingers
07-10-2006, 05:28 PM
Berman,<br /><br />Its pronounced Pop-e not Pap-e.&nbsp; You are saying like you are talking 'bout your great grand pappy from tennessee.

cougarjake13
07-10-2006, 05:31 PM
<strong>stickyfingers</strong> wrote:<br />umm...HR's carry over this year?&nbsp; Wright is in a good spot if Ortiz doesn't rattle off like 6 in a row here. <p>yeh its a new rule and I like it b/c usually the guy who hits the most in the 1st round is tired and doesnt usually make it to the final or win</p><p>i dont remember many mets even being in th homerun derby... maybe straw ??? or hojo ?? or hundley ???</p>

cougarjake13
07-10-2006, 05:32 PM
<strong>stickyfingers</strong> wrote:<br />Berman,<br /><br />Its pronounced Pop-e not Pap-e.&nbsp; You are saying like you are talking 'bout your great grand pappy from tennessee. <p>i hate berman and his bermanisms .... how many homer calls are we gonna hear from him sayin he hit it to (insert pittsburgh landmark here )</p>

PhishHead
07-10-2006, 05:48 PM
anyone else catch harold reynolds saying feliz navidad to Ortiz for his Kids b-day??&nbsp; That was some funny shit!<br />

cougarjake13
07-10-2006, 05:51 PM
<strong>PhishHead</strong> wrote:<br />anyone else catch harold reynolds saying feliz navidad to Ortiz for his Kids b-day??&nbsp; That was some funny shit!<br /><p>damn i missed it, i was posting and not paying attention damn</p>

PhishHead
07-10-2006, 05:52 PM
<p>defintely the highlight of the entire show. </p><p>I was pissed Ortiz didnt correct him. I woulda been like &quot;Are you a fucking idiot?&quot; <br /></p>

cougarjake13
07-10-2006, 05:55 PM
he should have ... i hate it when someone says something wrong and no one corrects them.. it happens a lot on the radio and sometimes on tv...&nbsp;i get pissed when the guy on the other mic doesnt correct him and just lets it go like he never said it

cougarjake13
07-10-2006, 06:19 PM
<p>david wright vs ryan howard in the final</p><p>lets go david !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p>i hope ryan keeps wearing himself out here</p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>

HBox
07-10-2006, 06:43 PM
David Wright sounds like a gay.<br />

HBox
07-10-2006, 06:45 PM
Mastercard must be pissed right now.<br />

cougarjake13
07-10-2006, 06:45 PM
<p>howard wins it</p><p>i kinda like the NL and AL uni's with the pirates colors .. pretty cool</p>

Tenbatsuzen
07-10-2006, 07:14 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><font color="Navy"><font size="2">David Wright sounds like a gay.</font></font><br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>When I was watching it, it sounded like ESPN was dumping out because he was cursing every time he was out.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

spoon
07-11-2006, 01:31 AM
<strong>PhishHead</strong> wrote:<br /><hr width="100%" size="2" /><hr width="100%" size="2" />Howard is very underrated, but I dont think he will win.&nbsp; Glaus or Dye will.&nbsp; Dye is the darkhorse i think.<br /><p>Why the hell did people think Glaus would win this thing?&nbsp; He put up a donut last time and PNC was really setup for lefties all the way.&nbsp; Putting your money on Glaus in a home run derby is like taking me in a diplomacy contest.&nbsp; Just not smart.&nbsp; </p><p>Also, how the fuck in Howard underrated?&nbsp; This term is thrown around way to easily and way too much.&nbsp; The man won rookie of the year after getting a very late start on the season in 2005 and is in the all-star game in his first full season.&nbsp; Define underrated for me please?&nbsp; Last year Hbox claimed it was Abreu, WTF?&nbsp; And hell, reading this thread today, with most posts a year old, made me fucking die laughing.&nbsp; </p><p>First, ESD calling Damon out of the closet (&quot;prancy-pants&quot;) and then stating he should stop bc he'd be a yank in 2006.&nbsp; Then Snoogans followed up that it' would never happen bc Damon said, &quot;He'd never be a yankee.&quot;</p><p>Next, Snoogans posted that it was &quot;an amazing show by abreu. so amazing i hope he burned out and hits 3 HR's the rest of the season.&quot;&nbsp; Seriously folks, this pretty much happened.&nbsp; MLB players, don't get on voodoo Snoogans bad side.&nbsp; And why the fuck couldn't you jinx the spank players.&nbsp; Might I suggest Jeter and or Mo?&nbsp; How about that HGH moonfaced punk Giambi.&nbsp;&nbsp; Oh wait, I meant Giambino.&nbsp; Sorry Sterling!</p><p>Tell me that shit isn't hilarious!</p>

Don Stugots
07-11-2006, 02:21 AM
<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>howard wins it</p><p>i kinda like the NL and AL uni's with the pirates colors .. pretty cool</p><p>&quot;i invented the home run derby&quot; &quot;tell em fred&quot;</p>

PhishHead
07-11-2006, 02:21 AM
<p> </p><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PhishHead</strong> wrote:<br /><hr width="100%" size="2" /><hr width="100%" size="2" />Howard is very underrated, but I dont think he will win. Glaus or Dye will. Dye is the darkhorse i think.<br /><p>Also, how the fuck in Howard underrated? This term is thrown around way to easily and way too much. The man won rookie of the year after getting a very late start on the season in 2005 and is in the all-star game in his first full season. Define underrated for me please? Last year Hbox claimed it was Abreu, WTF? And hell, reading this thread today, with most posts a year old, made me fucking die laughing. </p><br /><p> </p><p> </p><p>He is underrated in my opinion, because when fans are talking about the best 1b's in the league his name rarely comes up. He obviously is no Pujols, but he is defintely one of the better ones in the league, and hardly gets any acknowledgement outside of the NY/NJ/PA area. Also you could say that the only reason he won ROY is because Barmes got injured and fucked up his shoulder and chances at winning it. Also being in the all-star game doesnt mean shit about being underrated or overrated. Look at who is in the game and who should be in the game. Hafner isnt in it and he has statisically the best hitting stats in the AL. Liriano only made it because Contretas pulled out 1 day before it. Schilling didnt make it at all, Chris Young didnt make it yet Oswa;t does (most likely because his manager is the manager of the NL team), Eckstein replaced Reyes, when Khalil Greene should have (even though his average is worse, his homers, rbis and defense is better then eckstein and Greene has also been very clutch this year). I mean fucking Ozzie took Magglio over Hafner that makes alot sense. Okay this post got totally derailed about Howard being underrated. <br /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by PhishHead on 7-11-06 @ 7:02 AM</span>

spoon
07-11-2006, 09:50 PM
You won't get an argument on the Hafner thing from me, just ask Snoogans.&nbsp; But Howard isn't underrated in any sense of the word.&nbsp; People get left off the all-star game roster all the time, so it just doesn't fit in the discussion on that end of it.&nbsp; However, making it without a full season in the league under his belt speaks volumes for him.&nbsp;

PhishHead
07-12-2006, 03:03 AM
I understand that alot of people are left off all star roster but its a good barometer to know if fans know about it.&nbsp; He wasnt even in the top 5 for 1b votes.&nbsp; Yea it does speak volumes for him to be on the all star team without a full season, and I am doubting that his awesome shit i wouldnt have drafted him on fantasy teams if i didnt think he was good.&nbsp; What i am saying was before the HR derby, he did not get the recognition or media coverage that Pujols, Berkman, Nomar, Konerko and even Morneau got.<br />

docgoblin
07-12-2006, 05:14 PM
The All-Star Game participants should be voted on by the insiders (players, coaches, etc...), especially now that the game actually means something. I'm a HUGE Mets fan, and was glad six guys made it, but there was a good argument for Michael Barrett being the starter instead of LoDuca. Travis Hafner should have been on the AL squad somehow. He's one of the best offensive players in the game.<br />

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by docgoblin on 7-12-06 @ 9:15 PM</span>