Carnivale Season 2

[jocefus]

tonight at 9 on hbo is the premier of the new season.. can't wait been waiting awhile for this show to come back on.. wonder whats gonna happy with the crazy mom that torched the trailer...


few more weeks until deadwood comes back.. gonna be busy watching hbo the next few months on sunday..

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[angrymissy]

eh

Wierd Tree
Tattoos on man's back
Battle between good and evil
OMG Wierd Tree again!
Atomic Bomb
Cut on Preacher's hand
Wierd Tree AGAIN
Good!
Evil!
Devil!

Too much symbolism going on here and I can't follow it. I watched the whole Season last year hoping they'd shed some light on everything and they didn't.

This show just makes me feel stupid. I understand the whole good/evil thing but I feel like I'm not picking up on the big picture here.

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[TheMojoPin]

There's nothing to feel stupid over.

It's all empty symbolism.

They're trying to cover up nothing with a whole lotta window dressing.

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[LordJezo]

Looks like season 2 is off to a good start with more of the same from season 1.

I am still not convinced Brother Justin is evil and what's his face is good.. they might be playing some kind of trick on us.

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[BigKilla]

I missed part of it Monday, but I did catch that Management saying that he was the Russian soldier in Hawkins visions, but did they ever explain what that monster was?

Also, why do they need to find Stutter?

I'll never drink and try to follow that show again.

[LordJezo]

I missed part of it Monday, but I did catch that Management saying that he was the Russian soldier in Hawkins visions, but did they ever explain what that monster was?

Also, why do they need to find Stutter?

I'll never drink and try to follow that show again.




1) No, monster still a mystery.

2) Brother Justin needs to kill him so he can become "The Usher" which sounded like some kind of god like being.

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[BigKilla]

This is a quote from Samson from the original episode of Carnivale:

"Before the beginning, after the great war between heaven and hell, God created the earth and gave dominion over it to the crafty ape he called man....And to each generation was born a creature of light and a creature of darkness..... and great armies clashed by night in the ancient war between good and evil...There was magic then, nobility, and unimaginable cruelty......So it was, until the day that a false sun exploded over trinity and man forever traded away wonder for reason."


It looks like Hawkins and Brother Justin are the next generations Good v. Evil and Management and the Monster was the former.

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[Kevin]

I was wondering. Is Hawkins the kid from The Man Without A face?

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[TheMojoPin]

Yes. And "Terminator 3."

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[Kevin]

Thought so. Thanx Mojo.

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This message was edited by Kevin on 1-23-05 @ 9:50 PM

[Kevin]

Who is that peice of ass Blonde dancer/whore. has she done anything else?

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[LordJezo]

So, episode 3. What did everyone think?

This season seems to be moving a lot faster then the first season.

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[JustJon]

It's moving quicker because all the introductions were made last season, now we're getting to more story. I'm still digging this show.

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[Kevin]

I think The casting of Brother Justin was right on the Money. This dude is perfect for that role.

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[LordJezo]

I think The casting of Brother Justin was right on the Money. This dude is perfect for that role.

Brother Justin is getting creepier every episode.

I still wonder if he is working directly for the Devil or not. He seems to be trying to do good but has a very twisted side to him.

I wonder how he will turn everyone against God if he is indeed evil.

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[LordJezo]

Anyone still watching?

Episode 5 and that mask making dude was scary.. especially in his lab. That mask he was wearing creeped me out.

Still not 100% convinced Brother Justin is evil. He still seems to want to do some good.

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[JustJon]

The mask dude had me thinking of bad horror movies. But the question is was that really a dream sequence? If not, then how did he hide everything from Ben? IF so, how deid he make the mask?

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[FMJeff]

the last two episodes have really turned this series into overdrive...

the scene where he healed jonesey was SICK...not to mention the tar and feathering

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It made my heart sing.

[JustJon]

The girl peeling back the tar was just sick.

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[LordJezo]

The girl peeling back the tar was just sick.

Yeah! Real cringe moment there. Just the tarring itself was intense, especially them jamming the thing down his throat. But after the healing I was happy for everyone involved.

Only 3 episodes left! I am going to be sad when this great series is over. I also think they could not have cast a better person for Brother Justin. He's creepy as hell.

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[BigKilla]

are these going to be the final episodes or will there be another season?

[JustJon]

I thought they said when they renewed for a second season that they would be doing 3 seasons, but I could be remembering wrong.

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[Kevin]

Holy shit Scutter just ripped him apart. That was some crazy ass shit.

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[JustJon]

Two fucking episodes left. Both of them are at full power and Ben is in New Canaan. This is just gonna go fucking nuclear.

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[Donnielimes]

if the goal is to stop the bomb and we all know that we have used the bomb. does that mean that the good guy fails ultimately anyway? I mean we dropped the bomb so the kid from 'man w/out a face ' fails ultimately right?

"Good Times/Noodle Salad, Thats my story"

[NickyL0885]

i honestly dont get this show.I watched it one night and afterwords felt confused.

[angrymissy]

i honestly dont get this show.I watched it one night and afterwords felt confused.

You have the watch the whole thing - I was pretty damned confused myself until the last few episodes, they explained a lot in the past 3 or 4 episodes

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[Kevin]

Ok what the fuck she just shot jonesy. What the fuck does that mean? Did i miss somthing here?

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[HBox]

She had her eyes go black in that previous scene, or at least she saw a version of herself with her eyes black. And she is Justin's daughter. Gotta leave more for next season, if there is one.

What doesn't make sense to me is what she's doing in that last scene. isn't that Ben's power? What, does she have both now?

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[Kevin]

Leave it to this show to confuse the shit out of you again and again.

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[DeltaPin]

<P>"Sophie is the Omega"</P>
<P>Remembering Lodz wrote that in lipstick a few episodes back when he was possessing Ruthie (Adrienne Barbeau).</P>
<P>I guess forewarning that she has a lot more involvement in this story.&nbsp; Hawkins will need to kill her to end it.</P>

[angrymissy]

<P>Sophie is Justin's daughter which means she should be the new "bad guy".&nbsp; That's all I got</P>
<P>I don't understand why the cornfield started withering... was she healing Justin?&nbsp; Ben did that in an early episode and all the plants died in a field.&nbsp; Then wouldn't she be good?&nbsp; That's Ben's power... also, doesn't their alignment change each generation (Scudder was evil, Ben Good - Management good, Justin Evil)</P>
<P>I'm confused again</P>

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[WhistlePig]

Sophie screwed Ben, right? Could she be pregnant with his kid therefore have both powers?

Why the hell did she have to shoot Jonesy? He was my favorite..l

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[jocefus]

sophie has powers just like hawkins.. they were passed down in birth.. the reason the corn field turned black is because sophie healed and brought justin back to life.. lookin like next season is gonna be sophie and justin vs hawkins.. i bet hawkins knocked up soiphie and the kid will probably wind up being the anti-christ.. fun times

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[JustJon]

"Every prophet in his house"
"This is your house"

Now, was Sophie healing Justin or taking his power? We know she is his blood, and the power is inhereted (as Alexi/Justin and Ben have shown us), plus it's pretty obvious that she's going to be pregnant with Ben's child - a blood descendant of both powers.

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[Kevin]

God point on the Taking of powers Jon. I never thought of that. It sounded like she was being possesed.

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[HBox]

I hope she was healing him, for no other reason than Clancy Brown is the best actor on the show by far.

Also, Ben healing Balthus just so he can stand up, throw out a Exorcist line, and then die was a let down.

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[Kevin]

Yea i love Brother Justin. He is the best. He is basically the Al of Deadwood. To Carnivale.<BR><BR>
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[LordJezo]

Gahh.. I thought this was supposed to be the last season.

Now while I will be happy that there is more Carnivale coming, it is still annoying that the series is going on when I thought it was going to end.

Or something.

How much more can they have to do?

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