NFL Playoffs thread

[Snoogans]

i searched and didnt see one, so

i start this cause they start tomorrow, and i wanted to laugh at terrell owens.

i know its not funny when someone gets hurt, but damn if he didnt deserve it. he shoulda been a raven, and cried like a bitchy child until he got what he wanted, GOOD.

anyway, san diego, indy, st louis, and minnisota will win this weekend

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[WindowSill]

Indy and Rams sure. I just dont see the Vikings beating the Packers in Green Bay with the way they struggled this year. And I think if anyones got a chance for an upset this week, its the Jets over the Bolts.


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[FUNKMAN]

i'll take packers for 200 Alex

Indy
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[HBox]

but damn if he didnt deserve it.

Yeah, that damn drug dealing felon.

Oh, that's not him.

Oh yeah, the guy who watched somebody get murdered and didn't do anything

That's not him.

No, he's the guy who clotheslined that receiver and nearly paralyzed him.

Oh yeah, that's not him.

Oh, he the guy he walked off the field last week before the game was over.

No no, that's not him.

Oh yeah, he's the guy who snitched on his coach in training camp cause the drills were too long and hard.

No, that's not him.

He's the guy who satrted a riot because a beer was thrown at him!

Wait, that's a completely different sport.

I got it. He's the guy who killed some woman drunk driving, got off easy, came back to play and got caught drunk driving AGAIN! And he's still playing!

Nope, not TO.

Oh, he's the guy who dances.

Scumbag.



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[Snoogans]

no, he is the guy who FUCKED UP the paperwork, then got traded to baltimore, and instead of being a man and living with his mistakes, he cried like a little girl and whined and bitched until they couldnt take it and just gave him what he wants

i dont care what people do outside of football, and yes i think jamal lewis deserved a hell of alot more then he got. but thats not football business, and TO didnt handle his football business.

and no, i dont have any respect for the clothesline guy whose name escapes me at the moment

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[TheGameHHH]

I'll miss Law, but GO PATS! There's no way Denver is beating Indy, so I'm getting ready for the Patriots/Colts showdown in Foxboro. And once again Tom Brady will prove that he is able to get it done when it matters, unlike Mr. Manning.

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[BoondockSaint]

Well, I'll be rooting for the Jets tonight. I'd rather watch the Steelers beat the crap out of them then the Chargers.

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[DJEvelEd]

Why should T.O. go to the shitty ass Ravens? That team fell apart after Trent Dilfer left!

[Edit:] Excuse me, the Ravens CUT Dilfer!!

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[DJEvelEd]

The Broncos should have gone for 2 to make it 11 - 35.

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[DJEvelEd]

Now it should be:

Broncos 19
Colts 35

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[MHasegawa]

Bears 94....Bills -7.

Negative?

Watch Ditka find a way.

Who is Karim Garcia?? I no respect heem.
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[Bulldogcakes]

14-0 Minnesota. I hope we dont get 2 blowouts in one day after two great games yesterday. Fucking Moss is amazing. You can play like this guy you can do whatever you want.

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[HBox]

Tice fucked up. on that play where Minnesota it looked like Minnesota intercepted and then fumbled the ball back to the Packers, Minnesota should have challeneged. The guy clearly intercepted the ball than fumbled. The interception call is challengeable, but the fumble is not. If they challenged and it was upheld, the refs would have had to call the ball dead at the spot where the Minnesota player fumbled and they would have kept the ball, since the whistle blew. Complicated, fucked up, but true, as far as I know.

EDIT: This game is a fucking joke.



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[Bulldogcakes]

What is Farve fucking drunk? That's his 4th INT!

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[morecowbell11]

what did randy moss just do. i just tuned in after he caught a td and the announcer said he appologized for airing the "disgusting" act by moss. what the fuck did he do

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[HBox]

Moss took his ass and rubbed it all over the Packers goal post. Joe Buck made it sound like he actually took his pants down, but he didn't. He's overreacting; it wasn't that bad, I thought it was funny. Buck had no problem with Fox showing a montage of signs mocking Moss a couple plays beforehand.



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[morecowbell11]

thanks......the way buck was acting i thought he dropped a duece or something

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[curtoid]

Thanks for the recap - I turned away for a brief, brief second. They just reshowed it - oh, and now they are talking to Moss. Much ado about nothing. Yeah, the guy is a prick - he makes great plays but isn't a great player - he has no class - blah, blah, blah - but these guys can't stop talking about him.

Wish I had his hair.

Loved the games this weekend - not wild about most of the results.

Next week...

Saturday

Colts at New England

Rams at Falcons

Sunday

Vikings at Eagles

Jets at Steelers



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[FUNKMAN]

i'll take packers for 200 Alex

Indy
Seahawks
Chargers


lost 3 out of 4 - no surprise i have to work for a living



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[Snoogans]

and you all called me crazy for picking minnisota


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[FUNKMAN]

i think Favre had something on the under

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[Def Dave in SC]

Brett Farve suffers from what many in the medical community refer to as "Brett Farve Syndrome".

When Brett gets behind early in a game, or when hes playing in a high-stakes game, he tends to try and will his team to win by staring down recievers, trying to jam a ball into triple coverage or by firing a 95 mph laser beam to a wide open reciever who is 10 feet away.

This is why, as good as he is, he has never led a team back from a defecit of more than 14 points.

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[HBox]

I just read in an article on ESPN.com that Tony Dungy said that Green Bay fans traditionally moon the visiting team's bus on the way out. So now I have not even the slightest, itsy bitsyist problem with what Moss did.



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[DJEvelEd]

Green Bay fans traditionally moon the visiting team's bus on the way out.


Those crazy cheese...........butt.................heads!

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[BoondockSaint]

Bet Steelers. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1965467)

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[Hack89]

Vikings requested that Joe Buck not work Minnesotas next game because of his criticsms of Randy Moss. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1965529)

Im not sure if this has even been discussed on the board, but what Moss did with the whole mooning of the fans, was pretty fucked up. The 5 thousand dollar fine wasnt near anough what the NFL should have charged him. But w/e, this is pretty funny that the Vikings would want Fox to remove their top announcer from the broadcast, especially since just about everyone is down on Moss nowadays after the shit he's pulled in the last few weeks.

[FUNKMAN]

fuck joe buck

that guy has more forehead than any man on earth

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[Iamnotatool]

Dude, what Moss did was nothing.

Green Bay fans greet every visiting teams bus with bare asses when they leave Lamboo. It's a tradition, he was mocking it. People need to fucking relax, Joe Buck is ultra white. Ramalama Ding Dong or whatever he said in that dumb commercial.

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[Snoogans]

joe buck is a parrot, all he does is agree with the guys calling the game with him. Problem is, they usually dont know shit about anything either

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[Snoogans]

michael vick is insane. he does shit i can only do in videogames, and only when im playing fallon


in fact this looks almost identical to the rams vs falcons game fallon and i played the other day

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[Def Dave in SC]

Holy Shiznit! My heart dropped so suddenly that I actually crapped it out a couple times. I had to change the channel for Brien's final kick because I couldn't bear to see the Steelers lose again, and I'm glad I did--I probably would have passed out.

Now the only question is Indy or New England? Frankly I don't want to face either team, but I'm confident that whoever shows up next week is going to go back home with a loss.

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[Snoogans]

indy, i dont see NE stoppin them this year with all the guys they are missing. i know they are a team, but thats alot to overcome against the best offense ive ever seen live.

the way it looks tonight, indy atlanta in the superbowl, how fuckin great to watch would that be

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[PhishHead]

Indy is going to play against Falcons in SB and Colts will win.

NE aint going to do shit tomorrow when they have no DB's. They are all injured they just dont have the weapons this year to do it.

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[Jennitalia]

I was so excited over the pittsburgh win that i came in my pants

woo hoo, fucking pittsburgh!!!!


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[Fallon]

I will defeat you next time Snoogs!

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[Snoogans]

i think vanderjerk bets on NE, cause ive never seen a guy so stupid. keving garnett wasnt that dumb when he was gonna go after them with his tech's and clips and missles and what not

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[TheGameHHH]

It's pretty fucking funny to me how nobody on Minnesota wants to so much as lay a finger on Brian Westbrook.

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[DJEvelEd]

Mike Tice: "Gee it's 4th and 22 at the 31 yard line. What shall I do? I know! LETS GO FOR IT!!! What do you think Herm?"

Herman Edwards: "You shoulda knelt down on 3rd down you idiot!!!"


HAHA I used to play Madden against a guy who would go for it on 4th & long ALL the time.

I loved beating him!!!



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[Def Dave in SC]

indy atlanta in the superbowl, how fuckin great to watch would that be


That would fucking suck! I'm sorry, I'd take a defensive struggle over a shootout every day of the week. I really dont feel like watching a super bowl that lasts 7 1/2 hours.

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[Snoogans]

first off, Atl has a very good defense, and i like to watch them. but just to see peyton run and offense and get to watch miohael vick in the same game, thats amazing, i dont care who you are

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[DJEvelEd]

That would fucking suck! I'm sorry, I'd take a defensive struggle over a shootout every day of the week. I really dont feel like watching a super bowl that lasts 7 1/2 hours.



A 7 and 1/2 hour epic overtime football game would be awesome!!!
In the SuperbowlT, don't they keep doing overtime until someone scores? So in theory, a triple overtime SuperbowlT would indeed be a defensive struggle for the three overtime periods!!!

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[Fallon]

Pats are doing good against Manning so far. His best drive came at the end of the half, hopefully the Patriots shut him down again in the second.

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[keithy_19]

I hate the patriots.

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[FUNKMAN]

it's psychological with the Colts or

bad gameplanning? or

manning has no scrambling or 'throwing on the move' skills


the Colt defense has played a decent game but the offense has laid another egg

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[TheGameHHH]

For the last time, I'd really appreciate it if everybody on this board, the media, and football fans in general would finally GET OFF PEYTON MANNING'S DICK! He sucks, he can't win the big game when it matters. Let him throw for 500 yards every game in the dome for all I care. Once again Tom Brady proves who the better QB is, and he does it with class. FUCK PEYTON and FUCK THE COLTS.

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[Fallon]

Woooooooooooooooo!!!

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[Bulldogcakes]

Fallon, looks like a good year for you Bean-towners. First the World Series, now the Pats are on their way. I dont think the Steelers will beat you, either. Cower's not bright enough. Brains-wise, next week's coach matchup is a lion vs a housecat. And the Eagles couldn't beat ANY of the top 3 AFC teams. You're on your way.


Enjoy it while it lasts, because I expect my Yanks to bash your brains out this year, which will be sooo fun.



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[TheGameHHH]

I couldn't have said this better myself....

"I'm trying to think of what excuses they're saying in their locker room right now," Tedy Bruschi (two fumble recoveries) said afterward. "What rules do they want to change now? Maybe it'll be, 'We can't play a game if it snows.' I don't know. I was just tired of it. I was tired of hearing this and that, talking about the last game and how we didn't win the game, they lost the game by giving the ball away. Last time I checked, turnovers are when defenses take it away. And we just took it away again today. To hold that offense to three points, I mean, their players are great. I respect what Peyton Manning did this year. I respect those players. Sometimes you've just got to be quiet and play football."

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[Fallon]

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[BoondockSaint]

Well, I'm a Steelers fan and I see the Pats winning a close game, 24-20 or something like that. But now I'm hearing and reading that the Pats are going to destroy the Steelers, I don't get it.

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[Snoogans]

i liked them better when they were 1-15

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[walking joint]

For the last time, I'd really appreciate it if everybody on this board, the media, and football fans in general would finally GET OFF PEYTON MANNING'S DICK! He sucks


i'm not leaving his dick until you take back the part about him sucking. yes he lost and has had a tough time in the playoffs, but he does not suck.

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[Snoogans]

i'm not leaving his dick until you take back the part about him sucking. yes he lost and has had a tough time in the playoffs, but he does not suck.


Just because he isnt a bad quarterback doesnt mean he doesnt suck. I personally think Peyton manning does enjoy suckin, but not on the football field, only in the locker room

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[TheGameHHH]

OK, I take it back.......but now you need to get off his dick walking joint.

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[Def Dave in SC]

I think the Steelers match up very very well with the Pats. Both have big, physical defenses, power running games and smart, efficient QBs.

Whoever is able to get the earlier lead is the team that will win. The Pats like to throw lots of wierd looks, but usually not until they've gotten the lead.

The Steelers do a lot of zone blitzes, but they really start going after QBs once they jump out ahead.

The last meeting in terms of predicting power needs to get thrown out. The Pats had lost Poole only a week or so earlier and Ty Law went down in that game. Since then, their secondary has really played well and it really doesnt look like they're playing two rookie FAs, a reciever and a bunch of backup Safeties.

The bigger difference, of course, is Corey Dillon. He didn't play on Halloween and it really hurt the Pats; I think they only ran the ball 6 times.

This is going to be an awesome awesome game and I can't wait until Sunday.

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[Fallon]

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[Def Dave in SC]

It seems that everyone who has a voice is trying to equate what the Pats did to Indy into what their going to do to Pittsburgh.

"Well Manning is the MVP and he looked like a rookie, so how will they make Ben Roethlisbereger look?" seems to be the sentiment.

Thats false logic. Manning lacks the ability to win the close game. Some of this falls on Peyton and some of it falls on the defense; they just can't hold anyone to under 20 points.

That means that if Peyton can't effectively move the ball, or if he isn't on the field for 15+ offensive drives, he doesn't have a chance.

The Steelers, however are built to win close games. They run the ball well with up to 4 different backs, they throw well off the play action. Not to mention their defense. They've only allowed 26 TDs all season.

One problem though is that the Steelers let teams hang around a little too long lately, and you just dont do that to good teams.

These two teams match up much much better than the PAnts and Colts and it will be a much closer game than most people realize.

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[BoondockSaint]

I can't beleive what I'm hearing on the radio. Steve Serby of the post just said he thinks the Pats are going to shut out the Steelers. Joe Benigno said he thinks they may get a field goal. I understand that Roethlisberger is a rookie but when did the Pats defense turn into the '85 Bears? The Steelers offense is a lot more physical the the Colts. And I wouldn't be suprised to see the Steelers D make a big play to score or set up a touchdown. I said before that I can see the Steelers losing a close game but can the Steelers get a little respect?

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[Snoogans]

but when did the Pats defense turn into the '85 Bears


last week, when they made peyton look like Eli.

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[Iamnotatool]

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[fluffernutter]

but just to see peyton run and offense and get to watch michael vick in the same game, thats amazing, i dont care who you are


Michael Vick is an amazing ATHLETE. No question there but an amazing quarterback would mean that he can throw the ball right? Oh, I guess 82 yards passing qualifies as great.

I like Mike but I just don't see the whole package as far as what I see in a QB. Best scrambler I have seen though since Randall. Let Vick learn how to throw a bit more and have some accuracy and he WILL be "The Ultimate Weapon".

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[Snoogans]

how can you get on him for a blow out. he ran lights out, so did everyone else on his team, with rossum, they didnt have room alot of times to build up yards. ill judge his passing this game, cause they wont run like that

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[Kevin]

Vick is a great player. But he still is not a great QB Felix Herdia is more accurate then he is. He has a great arm. you just do not know where the fuck the ball is going.plus he still has not learned not to throw a 500mph fast ball on a 5 yd slant yet.

Say Somthing funny Mikey.

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[Snoogans]

thats not fair either, cause he also throws alot of great passes that are dropped. i watch falcons games and i cant believe how many balls they let hit the turf

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[Kevin]

he is still very raw as a passer snoogs

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[Snoogans]

he throws a better ball than eli, thats all i need, gimmie him on the giants ANY day


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[walking joint]

Vicks passing hasn't been good. he completes about 57% of his passes...not great. but his best receiver is his tight end. maybe he will do more with some better WRs. he also threw for only 2300 yards...Volek threw for more and he started 1/2 the games this year...he also threw 4 more TDs.

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[Kevin]

he throws a better ball than eli, thats all i need, gimmie him on the giants ANY day


You can't Judge Eli when he was on a team with an awful Oline a under acheiving Awfuly used TE two WR that could not catch a fing cold. when he had a wr who could actualy outrun some one in Taylor he deliverd 2 perfect bombs to him. So it is way to soon to judge ELI.

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[fluffernutter]

I threw in the 82 yards cause it was the last game and it was fresh in my mind. Yeah, he can run and scramble and do some amazing athletic things with his legs. I will not discredit him at all for that. But those qualifications also fall into the category of running back. Sure, his Tight End's and Wide Receivers don't set the world on fire and they do drop balls. I still have not seen him throw and pass the way a Quarterback should. I know he has got to grow and sure enough will.

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last week, when they made peyton look like Eli.


Look, your forcing me to use caps, because I have heard this too many times. Here goes.

PEYTON DOES NOT PLAY WELL UNDER PRESSURE. MAKE HIM SCRAMBLE A LITTLE AND HIS ACCURACY AND DECISION MAKING PLUMMETS.

NOT ONLY CAN ROETHLISBERGER THROW ON THE RUN, HE EXCELS AT IT.

PLUS ALL THIS "THEY MADE THE MVP LOOK LIKE A ROOKIE..." TALK IS BULLSHIT. PEYTON WON THE MVP BY RUNNING THE SCORE UP ON CRAPPY TEAMS. 45 POINTS AGAINST THE PACKERS? (TRUST ME, THEIR DEFENSE BLOWS). 35 AGAINST OAKLAND? 49 AGAINST HOUSTON? 41 AGAINST CHICAGO AND DETROIT? 51 AGAINST TENNESSEE? PLEASE THAT DOES NOT IMPRESS ME. PUT 35 UP ON PITTSBURGH OR NEW ENGLAND, OR EVEN JACKSONVILLE.





I like Mike but I just don't see the whole package as far as what I see in a QB. Best scrambler I have seen though since Randall. Let Vick learn how to throw a bit more and have some accuracy and he WILL be "The Ultimate Weapon".


Great scramblers rarely if ever develop into great QBs and heres why.

When a pass-first qb is in trouble, hes either going to stand and deliver knowing that a hit is comeing, or he is going to move around a little to b uy some more time.

When a scrambler is in trouble, hes going to take off. Now when your in high school or college, thats not a problem, but in the NFL, you cant just take off every time things break down. Defenses will kill you.

These scrambling QBs come to the NFL with run-first instincs and so so many of them just can't develop the skills they need to succeed in the NFL. Kordell Stewart is the best example, he was an absolutely awesome athlete, but he didnt have the ability to throw under pressure.

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PEYTON WON THE MVP BY RUNNING THE SCORE UP ON CRAPPY TEAMS.


Amen!

The one thing that Peyton has done except for "Cut that Meat!" has been when he helped bring the Colts back from what, down 21 in the last 2 minutes against Tampa last year. That was insane to watch.


These scrambling QBs come to the NFL with run-first instincs and so so many of them just can't develop the skills they need to succeed in the NFL. Kordell Stewart is the best example, he was an absolutely awesome athlete, but he didnt have the ability to throw under pressure.


I was waiting for the Kordell comparisons and you're right. He doesn't know how to stay in the pocket and let his O-Line do a little bit of work. When the play breaks down he doesn't try and make a slide or head out of bounds. He runs. He will surely get killed if he continues to do that. I bet my hands that in 5 years he will be done or backing up just like Kordell the Great is now.

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You Guys have to give Payton some slack. It took MJ a while. to get over the hump. He had to get by Det. People said he couldnt beat them. It took Elway untill his final 2 years to do it. Payton just has come across one of the greatest football minds in NFL History. Who elso has beaten the Pats in the playoffs in the past 3 years? NOBODY!!!. Bellichek is like 8-0. You guys feed us with this Tom Brady bullshit. He is like Derek Jeter. If nomar or arod was on the Yankees. They would have 4 rings. Has Jeter and Brady been fantastic Clutch performers? without any shadow of a doubt. But did Payton ever have the D that Brady has had? and the brilliant Minds of Bellichek and Weiss and Cronell? No. Did Arod and Nomar Ever have The supporting cast and sp that Jeter has? NO.What has Jeter done in the last 4 years wih a flawed Yankee Team? Im a yankee fan and i Love Jeter. But you have to be honest. Same thing happend with the most overrated Player in sports History. Scottie Pippen. He rode micheal Jorden like no one has ever ridden any one. He was a good player. But NEVER TOP 50. If Barkly Or Ewing Had MJ they would have won 6 rings. Payton is just getting into his prime. There is no shame in losing to Bill Belichek and the NE Pats. And BTW you have to start thinking about this. Was it really Bill Parcells that was really responsible for the Giant Pats and Jets success? Or was it Bellichek all along. Bellichek has done it without Parcells. Parcells Has not yet without Bellichek. If Parcells does not do anything with the Cowboys Next year. You really have to start wondering that.

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[Def Dave in SC]

Has...Brady been fantastic Clutch performer?


Hell yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Pats fan at all, but you have to respect what he's done. He drove his team down the field for winning FGs in both Super Bowls he played. If thats not clutch, please define exactly what clutch is.


Also, Pippen didn't ride MJ. MJ was the alpha male of that team. Every shoot-first guard/forward that is playing now is trying to do what MJ did.

MJ, and this is what sets him apart from Iverson and T-Mac and the like, was able to take all his teammates and bring out their bets qualities.

Rodman, Kukoc, Pippen, Horry, and everyone else played the best basketball of their careers. And with the exception of Horry never played as well after MJ.

Horry of course is the quintessential backup guy, winning titles in LA and San Antonio.

the reason Pippen was never as good, is because he necer got to play with anybody close to MJ.

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All i know dude is when MJ retired. Pippen had his shot at his own team. The same tem MJ won with. And what did he do? He whined like a little bitch when Jackson trusted Kukoc more then he did pippen. He refused to even go in the game. If Kokoc does not make that shot. Bulls go down in at most 5 games. Mj always let others take final shots like a Paxton and later on Kerr. Trust me. As a Knick Fan I hate MJ. Hate his guts. But you got to respect the man. And if you read my post correctly I gave Brady all the credit in the world for being clutch. But he isn't the main reason why the pats are the pats. He like jeter gets Wayyy to much credit for their team's success. The were both Huge parts. But not as big as they get credit for.

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[Kevin]

A weather guy was on the fan and said game time in philly it might be like -10 with 20-30mph wind. I think that helps the Falcons. Vick does not really throw anyway. The have 3 stud Runners in Dunn Duckett and Vick. Plus if they want to dink and dunk they have a stud TE in Crumpler.

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[Kevin]

Can Vick play a worse QB then he is playing? Throw the ball away and stop taking sacks. And stop throwing the ball right into the CB hands

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Vick has never been a good passer. That's why he can't and will never win when it counts. He keeps running like he does and he will be physically done before most young QB's really hit their stride.

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[Snoogans]

can you know anything less about football?

Everyone who watches falcons games wants to lay them all on vick always. Vick isnt always why they lose, and he isnt always why they win.

for one, how about someone on the D lay a hand on bryant westbrook. number 2, a block or blitz pick up on offense would help vick alot more. remember, he can dance around for 8 seconds, if he didnt leave the pocket, HE HAS TO TAKE THE SACK
and maybe the main point in this game, i havent seen philly cover recievers like this. the secondary for philadelphia has played amazing and so has donavon mcnabb. now maybe people will watch and realize why i would take him over peyton manning if i was starting a team.

and no matter who is QB, i feel bad for them tryin to throw into a 30 MPH wind.

has vick played good in this game, no not really, but give the guy a little credit, if he couldnt run around like he is, he would be having even a worse day. this is just an ugly game.

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[Snoogans]

Vick has never been a good passer. That's why he can't and will never win when it counts.


you guys are unbelievably knowledgless in football.

VICK IS 23 YEARS OLD

he played one full season before he got hurt last year. he is still learning to be a QB. Eli didnt look half that good this year, and dont say well the O line, cause no one is blocking for vick right now either.

also, he is in a system that he just started THIS YEAR. on top of that, its the wrong offensive system for a QB like vick, especially without a WR who can break a play.

and btw god'sfavoriteman, never win a big game. so its not big when you become the FIRST EVER qb to win a road playoff game in lambaugh field. YOU ARE RETARDED

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[Kevin]

Snoogs. Vick has to throw that ball away somtimes. He is taking 5-10 yd sacks out there.

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[Snoogans]

again, sometimes, but sometimes, if you are still in the pocket, YOU CANT.

its called intentional grounding, its a spot foul and a loss of down, THE SAME AS A SACK.

if he gets chased backwards, but stays in basically the middle of the field, he cant throw it away. also, yes it makes sense along the sideline to throw it away, but if you are down 10 in the 4th quarter of a playoff game, throwing a ball away sometimes is bad. maybe you make a play, maybe you dont, but wasting a down when you cant doesnt do any good either

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I don't know maybe you right Snoogs. Maybe im just frustrated at seeiing Awful Philly and their degenerate dirtbag Fans make it to the Super bowl.

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[TheGameHHH]

Snoogs, you know I got mad love for ya, but you really gotta get off Vick's cock. Yes, he can run. He can even run really fast. Good for him. That does NOT make him a good QB or a person that's able to lead a team to a Super Bowl victory. Michael Vick's style of play will never enable him to win the big game, especially against a team like the Eagles in the NFC.

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[Snoogans]

DO YOU READ WHAT I WRITE

i am so sick of sayin shit over, so this time, im done with this.
i never said he was a great QB, i never said he was a great anything. all i said was, TOO MANY PEOPLE put ALL the blame on him. their are 48 other guys minimum on that team. if he drops back to pass, and has to run away in half a second, is that cause he is bad, or cause somebody didnt block someone.

i already said mcnabb is better, the best. i dont even rank vick in the top 5 of QB's. but at the same time, if someone here is gonna yell that vick is bad cause he didnt throw a ball away and took a sack instead of INTENTIONAL grounding, that guy is an idiot. in fact, i already said


has vick played good in this game, no not really


HE HASNT PLAYED GOOD TODAY. BUT HE HASNT LOST THIS GAME.

no one has gotten open, no one has blocked, the TEAM got outplayed. the eagles won the game, they played great defense, and atlanta didnt play great defense.

and by the way, maybe this game is different when philly has to punt when its 14-10 except defense holding gave them a first down.

you guys gotta learn to read, no one is on vick's johnson, all i was sayin is IT ISNT ALL HIM

thats like sayin if the mets dont win the division next year, its all beltran's fault

thats retarded, vick didnt play great last week, and they won by 30, what happened then?

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[TheGameHHH]

I completely agree with you man. There's no way this loss should be pinned on him. But the way you believe people get on him too much for their losses, I think people give him too much credit for their victories.

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[Kevin]

Ok we have to stay away from a all PA superbowl.

GOOOOOO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Snoogans]

Michael Vick's style of play will never enable him to win the big game, especially against a team like the Eagles in the NFC.


oh no. michael vick's style of play has nothing to do with it. its tryin to take a guy like vick, and make him run the team like joe montana. he cant do that, he isnt that good a QB.
HE IS ALSO A KID. he doesnt know how to be a qb yet, and thats fine, he isnt good right now. but for you guys to sit and say never never never about a guy who has played 2 full seasons and neither one was under the same system, you just dont know football. take any qb, shit take peyton manning, and put him into the jets offense, and he would look stupid until he got comfortable.
you guys dont know that cause you are watching, pretend you are playin, and you had to learn 200 pages of offense. then 8 months later, guess what, here is a completely different 200 pages, after you finally just figured out the first 200

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[Snoogans]

I completely agree with you man. There's no way this loss should be pinned on him. But the way you believe people get on him too much for their losses, I think people give him too much credit for their victories.


and now for the last time game, until you read what i say, you cant talk about it.



Everyone who watches falcons games wants to lay them all on vick always. Vick isnt always why they lose, and he isnt always why they win.


you see that, HE ISNT ALWAYS WHY THEY WIN

i already said he wasnt why the won last week.

READ WHAT I SAY BEFORE YOU ATTACK WHAT I SAY

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[Kevin]

Hey Snoogs. Why do you give Vick the Benifit of the doubt beacuse he is young and has only played 2 years. But you have no prob with throwing Eli under the bus? For the exact sam reason.

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[TheGameHHH]

but i hate reading

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[Snoogans]

how did i throw eli under the bus. i used that to compare. everyone wants to get on vick about how bad a QB is, well guess what, ELI IS THE SAME AGE. neither of them are bad, they just dont know yet. that was the point.

i bring up that point, and the first thing people say is yea but no one blocked for eli.
did you watch this game, no one on Atl blocked either. i wasnt killing eli, i was just sayin it takes time. vick hasnt had alot, everyone acts like he has been playing like this for 7 years.

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(pre post note...Snoogans this is not in response to any of your posts, just my opinion...so don't yell at me)

at this point in time Vick is so overhyped/rated. maybe he will be good at some point, but not yet. he makes some really nice runs...and the media turns him into superman.

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[Snoogans]

he is physically superman, he isnt mentally, i agree he makes mistakes, all im sayin is everyone wants to judge him as a QB, but everyone acts like he has been one for 5-8 years, he only has been for like 2, 1 in the new system. you guys just dont seem to get how hard it is to do those things, you act like it takes a week to learn whats up

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[Kevin]

Overratedberger strikes again.

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Note to Doug Brian. THAT'S HOW YOU KICK A FG.

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WHAT A THROW.

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[walking joint]

uh oh...i hate the Pats, but i can't deny how good they are. that was a nice pass.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Is it possible for a game to be over in the first 5 minutes?
1st poss Steelers-INT
1st poss Pats-FG
2nd poss Steelers-Fumble
2nd poss Pats-TD

Belichek's a fuckin genius

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[walking joint]

things are getting better...they will at least get to punt this drive.

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looks like the bus has a flat tire

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Belichek's a fuckin genius


By far the best Coach in sports.

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[Snoogans]

i feel my pockets gettin fatter as i watch more and more of my $100 bet, i mean the patriots

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[Bulldogcakes]

Where the fuck is Staley? Is he hurt? He played last week against the Jets.

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Who is the sucker that you got to bet against the Pats snoogs?

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[Snoogans]

its called a bookie

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[Bulldogcakes]

There he is. Bout fuckin time.

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Oh i thought u just bet a freind.

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Who is the sucker that you got to bet against the Pats snoogs?



its called a bookie


not sure why, but that me me laugh alot..thanks.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Who is the sucker that you got to bet against the Pats snoogs?



its called a bookie


Snoog, Thats no way to talk about your bookie young man. Do you think he likes being referred to as a "sucker".

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[Snoogans]

maybe so, but being that i havent had to pay him once in these playoffs, it fits

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[TheGameHHH]

lucky for you it hasn't been hard to figure out who was going to win almost every matchup in the playoffs thus far.

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[Kevin]

How much would it suck for Staley to see his old team win without him the same day that he loses his 4th Conf title home game in a row.

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[Snoogans]

its not hard to pick winners, but you dont pick winners with a bookie. you pick with a spread, its not that easy. and i did lose 1 bet, the fuckin vikings didnt cover, but i didnt have to pay him cause i won the other 3 that weekend

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lambaugh field. YOU ARE RETARDED


I have just as much love & lust for Snoogans as anyone here, but people in glass houses SHOULDN'T GET STONED!!!


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[Snoogans]

another one of those rookie mistakes. god i love bookies

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Enjoy you $100 Snoogs.

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[Snoogans]

yea cause i give a fuck how they spell the stadium name. yea ed, way to be on top of things, i wish you put that much effort into your jokes

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[Bulldogcakes]

24-3 This is getting ugly, and I dont see Pittsburgh having the offense (re Rookie QB) to make up alot of ground.
Pats vs Eagles in Jacksonville.
A clean sweep for Beantown.
I cant fucking wait till opening day. Johnson vs (big fuckin mouth) Schilling

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HAHAHA, Big Ben just pooped himself.

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[Snoogans]

A clean sweep for Beantown.

man thats gonna shock people then, when the Celtics end up hoisting that NBA champ trophy

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Well, looks like I'm not going to watch the superbowl this year.

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[Bulldogcakes]

A clean sweep for Beantown.

man thats gonna shock people then, when the Celtics end up hoisting that NBA champ trophy[/quote]

In New York, no one gives a fuck about Basketball anymore. Or Hockey. If its played at MSG, no one cares.

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[DJEvelEd]

yea cause i give a fuck how they spell the stadium name


It's just funny how you were calling someone retarded while at the same time, misspelling one of the great historic landmarks of the NFL. (you know frozen tundr‘, Vance Lombardo, Bart Farr)

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[Kevin]

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[Snoogans]

ive never been there, so it dont matter. im sure i could misspell alot of stadiums around the league. like 3commercialstick park bell stadium or whatever they have decided to call it this week

i dont care about that, i know whats goin on inside it, and thats all that matters



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[FUNKMAN]

I wonder what Sgt Slaughter is going to tell is team at halftime


that he's gay

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[DJEvelEd]

i know whats goin on inside it,


I hate to call ya out Snoogs but Mr. Lambeau was a VERY important figure in NFL history...

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good one Bulldog!

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[TheGameHHH]

his knee was clearly down, they better overturn this

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DILLON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Kevin]

DANA.

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[Snoogans]

if pitt gets back within 3 im gonna kill someone

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[TheGameHHH]

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[Snoogans]

yea and then they kick a FG from the 2 like dumbasses. go for it, you dont get it, maybe you get a safety and the ball back.

awful

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[FUNKMAN]

gotta take the points... but then you're defense has to make some stops, which didn't happen

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[Snoogans]

WOOOOOOOOOOO


and you take the points if its the 3rd quarter, being down 2 scores in the 4th, esp against a team like NE, you gotta try to get the TD

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[Iamnotatool]

Rothlesburger is gonna be good, but you can tell he's a rookie today. Bravo, nice season, Pats-Eagles like it should be.

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[HBox]

and you take the points if its the 3rd quarter, being down 2 scores in the 4th, esp against a team like NE, you gotta try to get the TD

Not against New England. They are murder in those fourth and short situations. Pit went for it earlier on a 4th and 1 and were stuffed.



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[Snoogans]

you gotta think bigger than that HBox.

take 3 points, and give it to NE at around the 30(assuming the normal spot on kick returns), i think they actually started better than that.

or try for 7, maybe get 7 and give them the ball same spot. or get 0, but give them the ball at the 2, giving you a chance for 2 points, you know they are gonna run, and your front 7 is damn good. 3rd quarter i kick, 4th quarter, down 14, the way NE has moved the ball, i try for 7 or make them start at the 2

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[Snoogans]

and by sayin stuffed, you assume im running it on 4th and goal at the 2. i stack up like a run and use PA.

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[HBox]

or try for 7, maybe get 7 and give them the ball same spot. or get 0, but give them the ball at the 2, giving you a chance for 2 points, you know they are gonna run, and your front 7 is damn good. 3rd quarter i kick, 4th quarter, down 14, the way NE has moved the ball, i try for 7 or make them start at the 2

Even assuming you get a safety, and that is a HUGE if, 2 points does absolutely nothing. Taking the field goal made it 31-20. A field goal and a touchdown with two point conversion ties it. What does 31-19 do for you? You still need two touchdowns. Getting a field goal is so much easier than a touchdown. And there was so much time left. It was the very beginning of the fourth.

Bottom line is that Pit's defense stunk today.



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[Snoogans]

the patriots amaze me. its unfuckinbelievable.

everyone says tom brady is so good, he never makes mistakes. you could say that for the whole fuckin team it seems like. they are always where they should be, they just make plays, help out. its insane

its like a team of machines

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[Snoogans]

you havent stopped them all day, the bigger factor for me was field position. they lit up your D like no one else has, and you take 3, still a 2 score game, and give them good field position. at 31-17 its a 2 score game, ill be it slightly tougher scores, but they get it at the 2.

if you can manage to hold them and score a touchdown and a field goal the way the game had been goin, you shouldnt have much more of a problem just gettin 2 TDs. especially knowing that if you take the FG, they are prob gonna get one too, rather than playin conservative cause they have no space

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[Fallon]

Coming February 6th, part two of the complete destruction of Pennsylvania!

Roethlisberger looked like a rookie. Suck it once again Steelers!

Wooooooooooooo mutherfuckin hoooooooooooo!!!!!

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[Snoogans]

if the Celtics win the championship im gonna stop watching sports

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[FUNKMAN]

that might be a good thing since you don't seem to understand them...


take the 3

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[Snoogans]

you dont take the 3 funk, like i said, in the 3rd quarter i take the 3

stop coaching like billparcells, he sucks now

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[TheGameHHH]

On to Jacksonville baby, GO PATS!

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[PhishHead]

Did any of you play sports besides Snoogs and I??? You guys talking about takin a 3 instead of going for 7 is the worse thing I ever heard. It makes it 31-20. They havent stopped NE all day, so basically your saying ok give us our 3 it doesnt sweat you and youll take your usual 7 and we are still playing catch up. At least with going for the TD you might get it. Throw a HIGHER LOB to Plex on the Fade this time. If you dont get it, NE gets worse field position at least then with a kickoff. Cause Bethel Johnson wont burn your ass on the return.





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[TheMojoPin]

Did any of you play sports besides Snoogs and I???

Of course.

Bu what does me playing rugby, soccer and baseball have to do with me knowing how to play football?

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[Snoogans]

rugby is awesome

and soccer blows, decent concept, to big of a field

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[FUNKMAN]

Of course.

Bu what does me playing rugby, soccer and baseball have to do with me knowing how to play football?



don't sweat it Mojo.... you're talking to a guy who likes to blow the game sooner than later

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[PhishHead]

Mojo that wasnt aimed towards you because you werent even involved in the thread. I was speaking to the posters who were talking like they knew about footballl stragety.

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[PhishHead]

don't sweat it Mojo.... you're talking to a guy who likes to blow the game sooner than later



Blow what??? The game was already lost. They hadnt stopped NE offense all night long. they had nothing to lose already down 31-17. The 3 points did nothing just made it 31-20. It didnt make NE worry at all. You have a receiver who is 6'5 and can jump high and DBs who are tired and small and injured. How about throwing a LOB HIGHER this time instead of low. The game was already lost they had nothing to lose by going for it.

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[Snoogans]

ITS THE FOURTH QUARTER, YOU ARE DOWN 14

you havent stopped them all day. THE GAME WAS OVER. if you would ever take a shot, that is when you do it. it was a weak, spineless move to take 3

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[HBox]

Did any of you play sports besides Snoogs and I???

Obviously not. You meatheads do the dirtywork and us smart people tell you what to do. ;)

But what's this talk about not shutting down New England? Pittsburgh was doing well stopping them in the second half until that point.



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[TheMojoPin]

and soccer blows, decent concept, to big of a field

Ah, that's the beauty of it, esepcially since I was either a halfback or a defender. You still get the intense action, but then a few minutes to just chill in the bckfield with your teammates as the ball seemingly ends up miles away.

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[Snoogans]

yea tell me about it, the 2 years i played soccer i was a midfielder, that may be the sole reason i sit down so much today. it was like boot camp making kids run that much

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[whiteboy1457]

complete fucking bullshit. im so god damn pissed that the steelers lost.... of all nights tonight was not the night for rothesburger(sp?) to play like a rookie.... *takes deep breath* GOD DAMNIT!!!!

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[FUNKMAN]

you havent stopped them all day. THE GAME WAS OVER


being down two scores with nearly a whole quarter to play? the game is not over... unless you yourself would give up at that point, don't sound like you...

they stopped NE on several of their drives throughout the game.... they had a TD on a turnover so it could as easily been 24 to 14 at that point in the game



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[Snoogans]

funk, its the 4th, you have been outplayed the whole day, you need 2 scores. taking a FG means you need 3 total scores, you havent had many chances all day like that. FUCKIN TAKE IT

not taking it its a conservative move, i mean its like playin marty ball, and look where he always is

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[Snoogans]

ill try one more time to make it easier. a TD there MAKES it a 1 score game.

a FG makes it still a 2 score game.

if im a coach, goin for it isnt giving up, its having the confidence in my offense to make a play and get 2 yards, meanwhile taking the least risk cause you still need 2 scores, and now they have to go 98 yards to change it. its reverse of giving up the game, its tryin to TAKE IT BACK

its man style

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[FUNKMAN]

answer me this

what guarantees a loss more

> making the field goal
> not making a TD

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[DJEvelEd]

Shoulda went for the TouchDown Bill COWARD!!! Fuck a field goal!!!








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[Snoogans]

no funk, i get what your sayin, but thats not right, there are other factors that go into coaching decisions. making a field goal ensures you are 2 scores down and kicking the ball to one of the better kick returners in the league.

not getting a touchdown ensures you are 2 SCORES DOWN and they are guarenteed to have the ball inside their own 5. with this second one, comes the possibility of making the TD, and being 1 score down.

ITS A NO BRAINER

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[HBox]

Needing a touchdown and a field goal is so much easier than needing two tocuhdowns. No, I would not trust my rookie QB who was crapping the field today with the ball on a fourth down. I would trust my my number 1 ranked defense in the league who was doing a good job in the second half to force a punt.

Let me give a scenario: Lets say the Steelers on a drive later in the quarter face a 4th an 10 on the Pats 20. If they had gone for it and came short on that fourth and goal there is no choice here, they have to go for it. If they took the field goal, they can kick another one here and it's a one score game, 31-23. What would you want to do on that 4th and 10?



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[Snoogans]

i dont look at what if is gonna happen if we get stuck here and do whatever.

WHO GIVES A FUCK.
you coach then, its the playoffs, and any 2 scores, no matter what type, is easier than 3. thats common sense. 2 tds is 2 drives, 1 td and 2 fg's is still your qb, who is crapping you said, having to make 3 good drives instead of 2

you shot your own theory

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[FUNKMAN]

not getting a touchdown ensures you are 2 SCORES DOWN


wasn't it 31-14 before they made it 31-17?


where does this 2 SCORES DOWN come from?

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[Snoogans]

if its 31-17, you need 2 scores minimum to tie.

if its 31-20, you need 2 scores minimum to tie.

so 31-17 to 31-20 is one score, and you need 2 more, totalling 3.

31-17 becoming 31-24 means you need 1 more score, totalling 2




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[FUNKMAN]

OK

so would you have went for two?

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[Snoogans]

no, goin for 2 is dumb. you miss it, then if you do get the second td, you NEED a 2. kick the EP, go down 7, if you score another td, then decide if you have that kinda balls to try to win with a 2 or tie the game

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[HBox]

is still your qb, who is crapping you said, having to make 3 good drives instead of 2


No, it's a choice between trusting your defense or your QB. Can you honestly say you'd trust Big Ben over the Pit D? NO!

You are also really underestimating the Pat D in those situations? How many times have they stuffed the Colts over the years in those situations? How many times did they stuff Bettis up the middle today? These are the situations in which the Pats thrive. And what if they come up short. Even disregarding the bad situation the Steelers would be in, that would totally destroy any momentum they had.

Besides, Phill Simms agreed with me. Argument over.



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[FUNKMAN]

OK, now we're getting somewhere

actually I fucked up! i thought it was 31 -14 at that point

but i'd still have kicked the field goal...

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[HBox]

if its 31-17, you need 2 scores minimum to tie.

if its 31-20, you need 2 scores minimum to tie.

so 31-17 to 31-20 is one score, and you need 2 more, totalling 3.

31-17 becoming 31-24 means you need 1 more score, totalling 2


That's invalid. Needing a touchdown does not equal needing a field goal. Not even close. You're simplifying things way too much.



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[Snoogans]

phil simms also said on imus that terry bradshaw's singing is good. if thats the case, i win.

look, simply put, you said ben sucks, so its gonna be hard for him to get it back down that far 2 more times. if you take a chance and get the 2 yards, you only have to get the ball down the field one more time. kicking the field goal means a bad performing offense has to now move the ball back up field 2 more times.

you are sayin dont trust ben. im tryin the best way to make it least have to be on ben. you are forcing ben to have to do it 2 more times. im taking the chance at one, leaving only 2 more times if we dont get it anyway.

im tryin NOT to put it as much on Ben. you are doin exactly what you are tryin not to

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[Snoogans]

yea a TD is much harder than a FG. but if you are having trouble stopping them, AND having trouble moving the ball what the fuck. if you do stop them, you are still struggling to move the ball. id take the chance that if 1 drive gets goin, they can get a TD on that momentum, rather that tryin to have to get it goin 2 more times, and just not having to go as far. once drives get goin, they usually go, its the getting started part thats the hardest. its about flow.

plus, you kick the FG, you still have to go all the way and score. if you do get the TD, you do what you have to do anyway. its just a matter of style. i play to win, you play not to lose the game. i think we are seeing in this playoff which side usually wins the game cough jets cough san diego cough

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[FUNKMAN]

Pitt had 3 scores to NE's 1 in the second half and had momemtum

so they were stoppin them in the 2nd half

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[Snoogans]

at that point, NE was being pushed around, then they got inside the 5, and made bad plays. they already scored one td on that series except ben didnt throw the ball high enough

like i said, you guys are playin to stay in the game. im playing to win it

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[FUNKMAN]

that's cool... i'm gald you finally gave in

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[Snoogans]

what are you talkin about. with the arguments you guys are making, im thinkin i woulda went for the TD even late in the 3rd.

i play to WIN, you have to in the playoffs. havent you guys watched them.

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[FUNKMAN]

NEW ENGLAND or PHILADELPHIA


Phila by a field goal

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[Snoogans]

NE by 10

and thats not just to be a dick and disagree, the patriots just amaze me and i think they are gonna win every post season game they play until i actually see them lose one

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"Win today and we walk together forever." - Fred Shero

This is the greatest day of my life as the Eagles are going to the Super Bowl. As I sit there in tears,* I still cannot believe it. I was happy when my adopted Red Sox won the World Series but to have a hometown team do something as wonderful as this is amazing. Granted it is not the Super Bowl, it was just the NFC Championship but affter the last 3 years of suffering, anger and pain after the NFC Championship and to have it replaced with the vision on Donovan almost choking up and Brian Dawkins just lifting the city up on his shoulders is just great. Just great.

The Super Bowl will be a test to say the least as I have not seen a football team like the Patriots (Congrats again Fallon) since the 49ers Dynasty of the past but damn will it be sweet to just be there and to see Eagle green painted in the end zone.

Damn, Wing Bowl is going to be INSANE this year.

*I await the first fag comment. I have bet's down on who is first.

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[Fallon]

Pats are looking really good going into the Superbowl. Their last two games had them give up 3 points to the leagues best offense and score 41 on the leagues best defense.

It's a golden era in Boston sports and I fucking love it.

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[Tall_James]

"Win today and we walk together forever." - Fred Shero

This is the greatest day of my life as the Eagles are going to the Super Bowl. As I sit there in tears,* I still cannot believe it. I was happy when my adopted Red Sox won the World Series but to have a hometown team do something as wonderful as this is amazing. Granted it is not the Super Bowl, it was just the NFC Championship but affter the last 3 years of suffering, anger and pain after the NFC Championship and to have it replaced with the vision on Donovan almost choking up and Brian Dawkins just lifting the city up on his shoulders is just great. Just great.

The Super Bowl will be a test to say the least as I have not seen a football team like the Patriots (Congrats again Fallon) since the 49ers Dynasty of the past but damn will it be sweet to just be there and to see Eagle green painted in the end zone.

Damn, Wing Bowl is going to be INSANE this year.

*I await the first fag comment. I have bet's down on who is first.

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Fag.

Bet you didn't see that one coming.

NE by 2 touchdowns

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This message was edited by Tall_James on 1-24-05 @ 8:37 AM

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Bet you didn't see that one coming.


No I did not. I had you at a 3,000 - 1 odds.

And, yes, this is not the time to gloat at all about anything as I know that the Patriots are just an unstoppable machine. In fact, I think they will win. If it is a close game, I will not be upset about the Eagles losing but if it is a blowout, that will truly be our measuring stick as we may be the Monster of the NFC but look at the NFC. If it is a close game however, withing maybe 3 - 7 points, and we can give the Pats the kind of game the Panthers did last year to at least make you guys a bit nervous, the season will not be a wash for me.

This is still such an awesome feeling. I just wish so badly, I had someone in my family to share this with. To have a Dad or a grandfather that gave a damn about football, which has such a family tradition in this town, would be amazing. Oh well, at least I've got friends who bleed the green.


It's a golden era in Boston sports and I fucking love it.


I am so happy for you and all of New England's sports fans cause you guys deserve it so much. Enjoy it while it lasts and hold on to every memory so you can pass it down to the next generation just how great it was. I would sooner have one great golden era every 25 years and learn how to suffer and feel pain as a fan than to have it every other year or so and become complacent and just expect the silver spoon to stay in my mouth. These two working class towns represented in the Super Bowl have such a bond it is poetic in a sense.

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[Fallon]

Adding to the legend that is Tom Brady.
Brady was bed-ridden night before AFC championship game (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/01/25/2020.ap.fbn.patriots.brady.0133/index.html)

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[fluffernutter]

Yeah, Tom Brady is by far one of the most amazing QB's I have ever seen. A class act too. Just looks like the regular guy walking down the street and yet he is one of if not the greatest QB in the game today.



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[Snoogans]

amazing or not, he still carries a purse


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[fluffernutter]

Hey Fallon, I figured instead of asking via PM, I would just open it up here. What is the feeling in the greater Boston area about the Pats going to their 3rd Super Bowl in 4 years. Is the city really ablaze with a fever pitch or from what I heard down here, some of the Super bowl talk was pushed aside due to the Mientkiewicz trade and the fact that baseball rules Boston?

We are on so much fire down here in Philly cause we are quite the football town and it is just beyond crazy. Unfortunately the whole TO saga is a bit of a distraction. There is so much talk up here from so many fans who are going to Jacksonville (aka Phillyville as named by Ike Reese) we are just seemingly going to take over the town like we did in Miami last year for the Monday Night game. Hell, me and some friends are thinkng about just going down and being in the city and watching the game at some bars down there. Just to be there. Then again, we want to be here within reach of the first train into the city should the Eagles win. As far as we know now, our Sportstalk station, WIP is heading a caravan of some 600 fans down I-95 starting next Wednesday en route to J-Ville.

There is also such a respect (at least from what I have heard) for the Patriots and what they have done and how great of a team the are. We are not scared or anything and being the usual doom and gloomers but VERY confident the Super Bowl will truly be one for the ages. Most of the picks from fans so far is the game will be tight and decided on a field goal within the last 5 minutes of the game. I have truly never been involved in anything like this before as a sports fan and it is such a great feeling.

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[Fallon]

Well, nobody really cares about Mientkiewicz right now. We're pissed that Philly is saying they are cursed, they don't even have a reason to base that on (Babe). Most think TO is just a bluff and won't play. Nobody is concerned with the Eagles and expect the Pats to win. Belichick and Brady are gods.

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[TheGameHHH]

The one thing I love about being a Pats fan is the whole team keeps their mouth's shut and does all their talking on the field. Let Philly talk all they want about how it's their year, how they're underappreciated or cursed, and let the T.O. speculation run wild. I don't care if he plays in the Super Bowl or not. On Super Bowl Sunday we will all see who the better team is.

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[HBox]

I loved Tom Brady's Solid Snake look in the game Sunday. I'm surprised he didn't sneak up behind one of the Steelers backs, slit his throat and then break into a 30 minute solilquy on what it means to love on the battlefield.



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This message was edited by HBox on 1-27-05 @ 1:45 AM

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The only curse talk if any that has been going on is how there is some BS curse about how buildings were built higher than William Penn atop City Hall. I guess there has been a little talk about how there is the "feeling" like we are cursed like the Sox were but comparing 44 years to 86 years is a bit ridiculous.

If anything the confidence level is really high and the Eagles just really believe that they CAN win but it is going to be one hell of a struggle. The only shit that has been spoken about any other team was yesterday when Freddie Mitchell responded to the Carolina Panthers Steve Smith who really tore him apart on Sporting News Radio. I figure no one heard it cause their audience is about 10 people.

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[Crippler]

The one thing I love about being a Pats fan is the whole team keeps their mouth's shut and does all their talking on the field.
As much as I hate seeing anything good happen to a team from Boston, this fact does make them almost endearing. I still can't root for them, but since I can't root for Philly either, my enjoyment of the Super Bowl will be based on whether the game is entertaining overall and how much I bet on the coin toss & other ridiculous bets that are only available at Super Bowl time.

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[HBox]

Funniest Article I've Read In A While! (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/players/01/25/pile0131/index.html?cnn=yes)

Here's a sample from Ike Reese of the Eagles:

When we played the Patriots last year [Eagles running back] Brian Westbrook fumbled a punt, and we were all down there scrambling for it. [Patriots linebacker] Mike Vrabel had my testicles in his hand, and he was squeezing them. Where the football ends up depends on who has the strongest will or the strongest hands. Guys reach inside the face mask to gouge your eyes. But the biggest thing is the grabbing of the testicles. It is crazy.



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This message was edited by HBox on 1-28-05 @ 1:15 AM

[Fallon]

Freddie Mitchell is a fucking tool. For someone who only has 22 receptions and two touchdowns this season he sure likes to shoot his mouth off.

Eagles' wide receiver Freddie Mitchell riled up Patriots' defensive players by saying during a television interview that he "has something" for safety Rodney Harrison.

"Pretty funny for a guy who doesn't start unless someone goes down"-Rodney Harrison

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[TheGameHHH]

Fallon, I said it before and I'll say it again, let them talk all they want. I'm now even starting to hope T.O. plays because everything will be that much sweeter.

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[Kevin]

Dirtbag Eagle players and fans are in for a rude awakaning. I remember as a Giant fan in 2000 when we were saying. Oh yea we are going to win beacuse our Defense will stop their offense so our offense is going have a shot to win it for us. their is a bigger gap between our offense then thier d is to our D. We said all of that garbage. And what happend....... well i kinda blocked it out of my head really. And i really do not think the People's Jobber is to smart to be calling out harrison. This guy takes people out even when he likes them. Imagine what he will do to him. But then again Eagle WR arent man enough to go through the middle.

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This message was edited by Kevin on 1-28-05 @ 7:00 PM

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Freddie Mitchell is a fucking tool. For someone who only has 22 receptions and two touchdowns this season he sure likes to shoot his mouth off.


I was just waiting for him to shoot his mouth off. Yes, he is a tool and right now at least, is taking the brunt of the shittalk on WIP. You can't disrespect Rodney Harrison like that. For the most part the rest of the team has just been keeping it professional.

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[Snoogans]

i saw it on SC, and was wondering why Mitchell didnt like philly, cause he basically nailed their coffin.


i cant see the eagles even being in this game in the 4th quarter

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[FUNKMAN]

i cant see the eagles even being in this game in the 4th quarter


if they stay away from the turnovers they'll be there

this isn't snowy conditions and the Eagles ain't gonna go down like Indianapolis

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[Snoogans]

snowy conditions wouldnt effect philly that much anyway, but that has nothing to do with. the patriots are dominating, and dominated the best D in the league. i just dont think philly can keep up.

remember philly has also never seen this, indy has seen it a few times and STILL couldnt figure it out

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[FUNKMAN]

game tied or Phila ahead going into the 4th


take it to the bank

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[Snoogans]

that bank must be in paterson or something

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[walking joint]

the Superbowl is still a week away and i'm sick of hearing about it. lets play baseball already.

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[Fallon]

I'm sick of everybody on ESPN wearing ugly bow ties. Die! Freddy Die!

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[Kevin]

I think Dahani Jones is to blame for the Bow Ties Fallon.

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[DJEvelEd]

I remember when Charlie Daniels used to be a shock fiddler and say "son of a BITCH". Those were the days of wine and nipples...

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[DJEvelEd]

That Black Eye V is cute!!!

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[BoondockSaint]

He needs a bigger belt buckle.

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[DJEvelEd]

Unfunniness moved here (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/forum/82/topic/43737)

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