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F1Gm3nT
12-08-2004, 08:31 PM
I for this to be my first post in maaaaaaaaad long
but I think Pantera would like to hear it from me first

guess no reunion (http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3983630/detail.html)

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Gmann
12-08-2004, 08:35 PM
I posted this first



LOCK IT UP!


:p

F1Gm3nT
12-08-2004, 08:36 PM
yeah but you just aren't as rico as I am kiddo remember that

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TheMojoPin
12-08-2004, 08:40 PM
That's so unbelievably fucked up.

Man, talk about shitty club security...

Any word as to which other member of the band was killed?

Just awful. Truly awful. Dimebag rocked.

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SuperClerk
12-08-2004, 08:40 PM
holy fucking shit....

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F1Gm3nT
12-08-2004, 08:41 PM
think Bobby is crying right now?

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Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 08:43 PM
Bet it was Vinny who was killed and it was some obsessed Pantera fan.





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Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 08:44 PM
Meh, never mind.... double post.



This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 12-9-04 @ 12:45 AM

Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 09:03 PM
Metal messageboards from the show are saying it was indeed Vinnie Paul who was killed.

From another post I saw on FARK -

This is bad for metal in several ways:

1) Bad reputation increasesgo to metal shows and get shot.
2) Insane concert security with intrusive searches and fans not allowed near the stage.
3) Bands are scared of touring America.
4) Pantera gets the Nirvana treatment.


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Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 09:06 PM
Coincidence: John Lennon's death anniversary.




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TheMojoPin
12-08-2004, 09:08 PM
This MSNBC article has the most info by far at this point...

Witness makes it sound like the guy was after Dimebag. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6683479/)

The witness, 22-year-old Chris Couch, said the shooting occurred about 30 seconds after Damageplan, had begun playing. Couch, who was standing about 30 feet away from the stage, noticed a man wearing a hooded sweatshirt and hockey jersey walk up to the stage, followed by a bouncer and another club employee.

The man in the jersey climbed onto the stage, started yelling and shot the guitarist five or six times at close range, Couch said. Couch said the gunman also shot a bouncer who pulled him off the musician.

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fluffernutter
12-08-2004, 09:10 PM
WYSP here in Philly was just playing Walk and the On-Air DJ's just came on and said it was Dimebag and his brother Vinnie who were shot. This is really surreal and of course MTV doesn't have anything on as of yet. Damn, I'm shaking a bit. Fuckin' A.

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Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 09:11 PM
Is it true that Dimebag and Vinny are brothers? If that's the case, then chances are Vinny's NOT dead... just because the police don't confirm deaths until next of kin are notified, and if Dimebag and Vinny are related, then the kin would have known in Vinny's case as well...



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TheMojoPin
12-08-2004, 09:12 PM
None of the three major music channels have anything on...and doubt they will until tomorrow, and even then it'll just be a 30-second "news" report during a commercial break.

Weak.

Even though Damageplan weren't huge, PanterA is pretty legendary, and an incident like this is pretty serious for ALL music genres...

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Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 09:15 PM
WYSP here in Philly was just playing Walk and the On-Air DJ's

Matt and Huggy?

Like I said, Dimebag is dead, but Vinny is probably the one injured...


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TheMojoPin
12-08-2004, 09:16 PM
None of the local "rock" stations here in DC are saying anything.

WEAK!

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fluffernutter
12-08-2004, 09:16 PM
I remember even after the Great White concert fire that there was footage on at least the morning after that.

Yeah, Matt & Huggy. Douchebags I know but till, Matt & Huggy. I'm gonn check around to some of the other metal boards I frequent and see whats up.

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Just when you think it can't get any worse, U2 puts out another album. Terrible.

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Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 09:27 PM
Great White - the audience dies, it's the band and club's fault.

Damage Plan - band dies, it's the audience and club's fault.



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fluffernutter
12-08-2004, 09:31 PM
Anything on FUSE? I take it Mojo was referring to MTV, MTV2 and VH1 as the 3 channels of music choice.

You know, and not to name any names but if it was a Mainstream Artist it would be ALL OVER MTV. A bit obvious yes but still.

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Heavy
12-08-2004, 09:32 PM
I heard this from the news by the jews on Seton Hall radio a tad before 12 and they said it was just a rumor so i flipped to the Hofstra station to hear this awful awful college kid announcing it as fact then taking it all back about 7 minutes later sayin nothins confirmed. Anyway I dunno shit, but you can get updates from that dude on 88.9 if the signal reaches ya.

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TheMojoPin
12-08-2004, 09:36 PM
Nah, nothing on FUSE...I don't count MTV2. Hopefully the next "Headbanger's Ball" episode will be a tribute...

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Tenbatsuzen
12-08-2004, 09:40 PM
Guaranfuckingtee MTV's lead story tomorrow it's Britney's stomach at the Billboard awards and how OMG SHE'S IS PREGGERS!!! SOOOO CUTE!!!!!11111

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fluffernutter
12-08-2004, 09:55 PM
From CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/09/nightclub.shooting/index.html)

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Just when you think it can't get any worse, U2 puts out another album. Terrible.

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fluffernutter
12-08-2004, 10:39 PM
This pic here found on Zakk Wylde's site just about brought me to tears.

http://www.zakkwylde.com/dimezakk.jpg

The Zakk Wylde Message Board is going apeshit.

Bobby, I sure hope you are doing ok my friend.

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ChickenHawk
12-08-2004, 11:20 PM
FUCK man, this is some FUCKED UP SHIT. I'm really upset/pissed off right now.

Dimebag was the shit. This is really fucking sad.

I am gonna listen to Eddie Trunk this Friday. Him and Dimebag were friends and he would come to the studio every now and then. He's probably gonna do a tribute show.



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Fallon
12-09-2004, 01:04 AM
I don't like the tease my local NBC channel just used.

"...also today a shooting at a night club that ends with the killing of a guitarist you may have heard of."

Six minutes later you find out who died.

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Crippler
12-09-2004, 02:33 AM
HOLY SHIT...not the first or last time it'll be asked, but how the fuck does this happen?

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12-09-2004, 02:34 AM
Unfucking real! This sucks.

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PanterA
12-09-2004, 02:55 AM
what the fuck?

This is insane....

I cant believe this right now.

Guys I'm seriously upset. I cant believe this is real.

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BoondockSaint
12-09-2004, 04:19 AM
Oh man. This is like a punch in the fucking gut.

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Aggie
12-09-2004, 05:48 AM
Wow, Figment comes out of the woodworks to post! :)


Bobby, I instantly thought of you. People are flipping here in Dallas since it's their hometown. I'm sick of speculation. I just want the cops to hurry up and tell us what happened.

FYI: I heard that guy Couch who was at the show on the radio this morning. He said the same thing Mojo posted. This is really sad.

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Hottub
12-09-2004, 06:17 AM
Tragic and Disturbing. I was a big fan.


Rest in Peace, Cowboy.

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PanterA
12-09-2004, 06:53 AM
It's unreal how this guy can not only get into the venue with a gun, but was able to get on stage, shoot Dimebag 6 times, then turn on the other band members and the crowd.

I been to many concerts, the majority being PanterA shows, and couldnt get into the venue with a pack of cigarettes without security openning the lid to check inside.

I'm still in shock. I was hoping all morning that it was a fake story. I didnt want to believe it. I still dont.

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12-09-2004, 06:53 AM
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Doctor Manhattan
12-09-2004, 08:47 AM
White musicians are always stealing from back ones.

Rappers were the ones getting shot a long time ago. Heavy Metal guys are supposed to OD and stuff.

<b>But, seriously, my <u>thoughts and prayers</u> to his family, friends and fans. I hope there is some justice served out of this mess. I'm not a huge Pantera fan, but I've liked some of their music.</b>

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Walrus622
12-09-2004, 09:40 AM
Perhaps the best of his generation on the ax. The 8th has been strawberry fields and John Lennon for 20 years. The irony is sickening. Another gun death of a legend. Once on the daily show i saw Senator Mcain and he was asked where we are as a nation. He said these were bad times for America.His honesty has stayed with me. War, steroids, murder, fan riots......Where have you gone Joe Dimaggio?

Iamnotatool
12-09-2004, 10:06 AM
Wait.....Britney is Pregnant???!!! How cute!!!1!!!!


Can we ease up on the "Dimebag Darryl"/John Lennon comparisons?



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GodsFavoriteMan
12-09-2004, 10:17 AM
As a former metal head myself, I'm sad to hear about this insanity. And I don't mean to diminish anyone's love for Darrel, but I have to agree with Tool. The date of the death is just a coincidence.

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badorties
12-09-2004, 10:59 AM
never really cared too much for pantera, but this story is just too fucked up ...

i read on yahoo that the shooter got on stage, and started saying something about pantera and began firing ...

has anyone heard what his gripe was, or has there been any indication of what drove him to kill four innocent folks ...





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GodsFavoriteMan
12-09-2004, 11:02 AM
This is second hand info, but apparently he was pissed that Pantera had broken up. Somehow shooting Darrell was the best solution. That's why these guys are nutjobs, if they thought rationally, shit like this wouldn't happen in the first place.

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Walrus622
12-09-2004, 11:08 AM
Could you miss the point of my last post anymore? If a rockstar bieng shotdown in the prime of his life on the same damn day than what do you say about Waco, columbine and hitler's birthday all on the same day, happy accident? I was in central park last night singing give peace a chance with 20 other people when thios was happening so dont tell who to compare John's life to, no offense.

GodsFavoriteMan
12-09-2004, 11:17 AM
Could you miss the point of my last post anymore? If a rockstar bieng shotdown in the prime of his life on the same damn day than what do you say about Waco, columbine and hitler's birthday all on the same day, happy accident?


I'd probably say something like: I am the eggman. I am the eggman! I am the Walrus! Coo Coo Cachoo!

It's no secret that the Columbine kids were fans of Hitler, so no, that wasn't a coincidence, but it wasn't a cosmic intervention, either.

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Walrus622
12-09-2004, 11:40 AM
It is a total coincidence, I agree. I can put the 2 in perspective, I am just saying we are not getting better we are getting worse, as a nation. Can we agree at least that they are now both dead? If anyone else is feeling homicidal stay away from rock stars and direct your hate towards the real enemy, Micheal Moore. LENNON IS GOD BUT I'M NO DAMN HIPPIE!

Iamnotatool
12-09-2004, 12:09 PM
I was in central park last night singing give peace a chance with 20 other people



HAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!

Were they family? Who are these people singing?

I'm sorry, but if I was in the area, I'd probably have been throwing apples at y'all. That's just silly.

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PanterA
12-09-2004, 12:22 PM
enough of the thread derailment discuss this matter in private messages.

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Walrus622
12-09-2004, 12:27 PM
Apple's? Another irony for you Beatle fans, conspiracy I say! Yesterday was the anniversary of the day Lennon was killed, so every year for the past few decades we silly New Yorkers get together in the park by where he was shot to sing songs of peace and love.It may sound cheesy but it is a very cool atmosphere. So this is Christmas, and what have YOU done?

Walrus622
12-09-2004, 12:29 PM
You are right Pantera, I aploigize.

FUNKMAN
12-09-2004, 12:30 PM
Bobby, sorry for your loss " in a musical sense"


guess i would be a little upset if Mark Farner got murdered but i just keep it in perspective. I thank him for the music which has brought me alot of enjoyment but i didn't know him personally and plus now i have Avril Lavigne...

not kidding, i like her music alot

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Iamnotatool
12-09-2004, 12:45 PM
It's a shitty thing that happened. I'm just not sure I get the Lennon crossover.


RIP pothead.

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Walrus622
12-09-2004, 12:51 PM
December 8th 1980 Lennon shot by deranged fan, December 8th 2004- Dimebag shot by deranged fan, ever heard of another rock star being shot and killed let alone the same day in history?

Walrus622
12-09-2004, 12:55 PM
I guess that hero cop instituted the Instant Death Penalty on that a-hole. There was no chance for DD but i hear he may have saved alot of other people.

SatCam
12-09-2004, 01:49 PM
Jesus that fucking sucks! A buddy of mine told me about this and I couldn't believe it.
Not a fan of Pantera but its just unreal that someone could get up on the stage and start firing.

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LiquidCourage
12-09-2004, 02:26 PM
Pantera was one of my favorite bands. I'm so bummed.

whorehay
12-09-2004, 03:44 PM
just about every show i go to, theres someone off stage with the band or whatever videotaping. so has there been any word of a video yet?
not to be sick, and i wouldnt want to see it, but it might give closure for the victims families, in a weird way.

and who was the other band member that was killed??
i heard the singer, then the drummer.. no real confirmation

Iamnotatool
12-09-2004, 03:46 PM
now that you mention it, I kinda want to see it.

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BooBooKittyFuck
12-09-2004, 03:52 PM
My husband is a big fan of Pantera and this is very hard for him, we went to go see the Damageplan concert in the city when they did the headbangers ball concert.

As for Vinny Paul according to damageplan.net, he was not killed.

"There are reports on various news organizations that Vinnie is dead, they are all not true. Dime is the only one of the band members who got shot."

I send my support to all of you and if you need to talk Bobby, we are here for you.

I do not think showing the video tape is a good idea, people are so hurt right now that the videotape would drive them to rage.

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BoondockSaint
12-09-2004, 03:55 PM
From here (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/10379692.htm)



Also killed in the shootings were Erin Halk, 29, a club employee who loaded band equipment; fan Nathan Bray, 23; and Jeff Thompson, 40, who was a bodyguard for the band.


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Iamnotatool
12-09-2004, 03:57 PM
http://damageplan.net/600Img_2648.jpg

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Bulldogcakes
12-09-2004, 04:13 PM
Folks, there's 365 days in a year. Shit happens on every one of em.
There's nothing cosmic going on here.
Sorry for your loss Pantera.






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12-09-2004, 06:33 PM
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BoondockSaint
12-09-2004, 06:37 PM
from metallica.com

{quote]RIP DARRELL
12/9/2004 [ back ]


This is unbelievable. To sit here and talk about Darrell in the past tense seems so wrong, so unfair, so unjust, I don't even know what to say. My heart goes out to Vinnie, to their families, to the other band members, and to the families and friends of the other people that were killed or injured, in this fucking senseless act of selfishness and stupidity.
In 1985 I was fortunate enough to meet both Darrell and his brother in Dallas on tour. The first thing me and my friend did as soon as that tour was over, was to head straight back to Dallas and hang out with Darrell and Vinnie for a long time, cuz they were the coolest muther fuckers that we had met after criss-crossing the states for three months. That was the beginning of a friendship that was anchored in love, respect, fun, outrageousness, music, booze, sweat, late nights, early mornings, hangovers, headaches, pounding eardrums, sore bodies... the list goes on.

There's a tendency in these fucked up moments to use the word "I" a lot and focus on one's own feelings of pity and shock... so instead let it just be known that thru these eyes Darrell was incredibly warm, open, fun, nutty, forthcoming, talented, embracing, unpretentious, accommodating and he always had a very attractive innocence about him that obviously made him never threatening and always welcoming.

Darrell and his brother were the cornerstone of musical adventures that were always groundbreaking, pushing boundaries, challenging to themselves and to their fans, respected by their peers and always true musicians' musicians, and today the rock world is worse off because of this untimely and senseless waste.

Much love and respect and thanks for letting me be a small part of your life and I know you are already having fun and throwing it down with Bon Scott, Keith Moon, John Bonham, Jimi, Cliff B., and the rest of the musicians and troublemakers that you are hanging with so prematurely.

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fluffernutter
12-09-2004, 06:46 PM
Just thinking of that lethal combonation of Dimebag and Cliff rocking out.

It is just so surreal the whole thing as I could not get the horrific images out of my head. Trying to think of what happened. It doesn't really screw me up it just makes me think. Makes me think about how in a fucking blink of an eye, someone who is close or once was close could be gone. Makes me think how there are so many of us out there and so many people who have petty shit going on with one another that may cause schizm and I wonder how often we think of the one we have a rift with we may never see again because of unforseen events. I have people like that in my life who I have pissed off or have had broken ties with and although we don't speak no more, I still care quite a bit and just want to pick up the phone and say "Hey bro, I hope you're well", even though there may be a fuck you or a hang up on the other end.

Not trying to be overly deep but I just think about this shit sometimes. Time here is so short.

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fezident
12-09-2004, 06:49 PM
This is an upsetting turn of events.
I wasn't at all a fan of Pantera music specifically but, I am a fan of other heavy bands.
This tragedy is going to re-inforce the notion that Metal (and it's fans) is for "devil worshipers" or, at the very least, "dirtbags".

Sure, it's been a while since Right-wingers blamed Manson and/or Ozzy for violence but, THIS event will probably wake up a lot of sleeping giants.

Sucks.
Sucks for Dimes family, friends, and fans.
Sucks for fans of the genre that have to deal with the aftermath.

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Walrus622
12-09-2004, 08:17 PM
It's the tough days like these that make us miss the show in NYC even more.

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12-09-2004, 08:37 PM
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Stars shine like eyes
The black night sighs
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Falls down in tears
Light of the night
The earth, a purple blaze
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While down below the trees
Bathed in cool breeze
Silver starlight breaks down the night
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God's ultimate heavy metal band just got it's lead guitarist. RIP Darrell Abbot. AKA Diamond Darrell AKA Dimebag Darrell

What kind of asshole does this? hops on stage and shoots a man 5 times in the chest? then shoots into a crowd of people? WHAT THE FUCK!!! he was one of my musical idols, and i hope an out pouring goes out for him like it did for Cobain.

Dimebag didn't choose to lose his life, some dickhead with a gun ended it for him. there was no hatred of life, there was no end in sight for the man (all specualtation, i did not know the man, or even pretend to) but from interviews i've read, heard or seen the only thing the guy wanted to do was make music and have fun.
so in honor of Dimebag Darrell Blast any project he's worked on (Pantera, Damage Plan) Kiss, or Sabbath (his favorite bands) so loud he can hear it in heaven.

not to compare deaths of rockstars, but this is the man who should be put on a pedestal, not the guy who kills himself through his own self destructive methods, (drugs, guns) I hope pantera, damage plan make millions off new record fans, just so that Dimebags name lives on forever, and his family (i don't know if he has kids or not) can be taken care of for the rest of there lives.



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fluffernutter
12-10-2004, 02:52 AM
not to compare deaths of rockstars, but this is the man who should be put on a pedestal, not the guy who kills himself through his own self destructive methods, (drugs, guns) I hope pantera, damage plan make millions off new record fans, just so that Dimebags name lives on forever, and his family (i don't know if he has kids or not) can be taken care of for the rest of there lives.


Excellent point.

While all death is tragic it stings a little more when the good guys who are always having a positive effect go. I am sad when a rock star takes their own life due to a suicide or drugs or whatever self-inflicting damage he/she causes themself but it is really hard for me to give them any kind of pity. You have the world in your hands so to speak and your slowly killing yourslef? I don't get it. Man I would take that ball and run with it and try to bring others out of the shit they are in instead of driving people into more of a fuckdom.

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Iamnotatool
12-10-2004, 05:05 AM
Nice job by security at the show. 1st guy gets in with gun, then guy in hooded sweeatshirt strolls up to the stage w/ a gun, then jumps on stage and has time to bitch about the Pantera breakup WITH THE GUN, then has time to blast 4 people WITH THE GUN.


Damn. It takes one rotten apple to spoil....other apples.

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fezident
12-10-2004, 06:04 AM
You can't blame the security at the venue.
Not every venue has metal detectors and I dont expect the staff to pat down every inch of every person that walks through the door. I mean... it's a rock club not an airport.
We've all seen it a million times: a fan jumps on stage, makes a stupid face, and then dives into the crowd. No harm there.
Hell...I was just a Hall and Oates concert and some fat lady in her 40ies rushed onstage to hand Darryl a teddy bear!
People can bypass security. It's just not that hard.

My point is:
It's a rock concert! The fans are granted a certain level of freedom and accessibility.
To say that "this incident could've been prevented" is proving that hindsight is 20/20.

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Iamnotatool
12-10-2004, 06:18 AM
Waitwaitwait. You went to a Hall and Oates concert????

a) Who knew they were still doing concerts?
b) You went to a Hall and Oates concert????

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Freakshow
12-10-2004, 06:35 AM
The thing with the venue you have to remember is it's Ohio, so it's a bit of a different mindset.

Down here in DC, security varies widely from club to club. Nation you can't get in without them patting you down, and even checking your cigarettes like Pantera said. The 9:30 club, where Damage Plan played/was going to play on this tour, they don't give you a second glance, they are more worried about your age.

On top of all that, some shows let you stage dive. It's pretty much up to the band and the club--Black Cat is a no, the Ottobar in Baltimore it's pretty hard to stop it, even if they tried. I don't know if Damageplan is a stage-dive friendly band, but i'm going to guess that it happens from time to time.



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angrymissy
12-10-2004, 07:17 AM
The thing with the venue you have to remember is it's Ohio, so it's a bit of a different mindset

I went to a Down concert in Ohio (I believe it was Phil Amselmo's band way back in the early/mid '90s)

First, someone got stabbed during the opening band.

Second, I literally got my entire shirt ripped off of me in the crowd and the guys that did it followed me around until I went to security. Security didn't do shit and I ended up having to buy a $30 T-shirt so I wouldn't have to walk around topless all night.

Third, glass bottles were being thrown on the stage during the whole show and shattering everywhere.

I saw Pantera a few times in NYC and the security was really really tight. They went through everything, pockets, purse, they even opened up one of my makeup compacts to make sure there was nothing inside of it. No glass bottles inside the venue, drinks were sold in plastic cups.

I hate Ohio.

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TheMojoPin
12-10-2004, 08:19 AM
The thing with the venue you have to remember is it's Ohio, so it's a bit of a different mindset.

Down here in DC, security varies widely from club to club. Nation you can't get in without them patting you down, and even checking your cigarettes like Pantera said. The 9:30 club, where Damage Plan played/was going to play on this tour, they don't give you a second glance, they are more worried about your age.

On top of all that, some shows let you stage dive. It's pretty much up to the band and the club--Black Cat is a no

Dude, how could you even stage dive at the Black Cat in the first place? The stage is, what, a foot off the ground?

And you're right about the 9:30 Club on MOST nights...but they do switch up the security depending on the type of act. I've never seen metal detectors, but I've seen plenty of pat-downs and searches at the hip-hop shows I've been to there. I've never seen a metal show there, but I wouldn't be suprised if they did the same thing, since at this point in the club's history, it's more of an "indie" club, and their typical acts don't usually attract an audience that ISN'T a bunch of hipster pussies.

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Hottub
12-10-2004, 10:34 AM
More information. Apparently, this guy was a complete nut-job! (http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=041210&cat=entertainment&st=entertainmentd86su4r00&src=ap)

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12-10-2004, 06:57 PM
RIP Dimebag. This really sucks.


Only saw the end of it, but looked like Uranium tonight was a tribute to Darrell.

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ChickenHawk
12-10-2004, 07:13 PM
Apparently, this guy was a complete nut-job!
Ya don't say!

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al885
12-10-2004, 08:06 PM
Private Pyle/Kane came to mind when they described the guy that shot Dimebag

whorehay
12-10-2004, 09:25 PM
well Kane would have an excuse.. the mystery of his parents murder, but then realizing paul bearer is his real dad. his on again/off again relationship with his brother the undertaker. his impotence problem with tori, then xpac stealing her from him. being a one day only world champion, having to use that damn voice box to talk back in the day. having DX call him the "big red retard" on a daily basis, losing his mask in public and the humility of having to show his face every monday night. and let's not forget Katie Vick...

Iamnotatool
12-16-2004, 09:53 AM
The Columbus Dispatch wrote:
Mitch Carpenter, an Alrosa security guard working in the parking lot, said he encountered Gale before the concert and asked him to "park his car and buy a ticket or leave." Gale parked behind the building near the band's bus and was asked to move his car, which he did. The next time Carpenter saw Gale, he was in the club. "He had hopped the fence at the patio," Carpenter said. "He was walking really fast toward the stage and I followed him. "I thought he was going to get up there and stage dive or something during the first song. I figured he was just a guy who didn't have any money to buy a ticket so he got in the way he did. "I've been going over it in my mind, but when he came in I didn't want to tackle him. He was a big guy."






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12-16-2004, 09:56 AM
Columbus, Ohio's NBC 4 is reporting that police have video from inside the Alrosa Villa club that captures the entire shooting incident Wednesday that resulted in the death of DAMAGEPLAN/ex-PANTERA guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott and four others. Meanwhile, NBC 4 has posted a brand-new video report featuring an interview with a Central Ohio man by the name of Travis Burnett, who claims that he tried to get the gun away from Dimebag's suspected killer, Nathan Gale, before Gale fired at him, grazing Burnett's arm. Also featured in the report is an interview with Gale's former employer, Rich Cencula, the owner of Minit Lube in Marysville, who said that he considered Gale "like a son" and who described the shooter as "a very good worker." Watch the video report here... (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=30267)

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12-16-2004, 10:05 AM
Singer Mike D. Williams of EYEHATEGOD, which features in its ranks SUPERJOINT RITUAL guitarist Jimmy Bower, has posted the following message at his Southern Nihilism Front web site:

"I know by now you've all heard this bullshit [about Dimebag being shot to death]... It's sad as fuck. I can't even put into words the scope of the violence involved in this... A couple of my other friends were shot as well.

"The fucked up thing is that the shooter was apparently pissed 'cos PANTERA broke up... The goddamn irony of it all is (nothing was set in stone), but they were just starting to talk about doing some reunion shows and put all their petty differences aside.

"What a fuckin shame... I got tons a stories about how much fun we had whenever we hung w/ Dime, staying at his house, BBq'ing and generally getting blitzed, cuttin' up and talkin' trash... Blasting D.A. COE and KISS with that freakin dry ice machine/light show in his living room(!!) and even going fishing w/him in Arlington. We'll never forget all that. The dude lived to have a good time.

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PanterA
12-16-2004, 11:56 AM
Here's a great tribute put together for Dimebag.

This is how I like to remember the man, rocking out and always, ALWAYS having a blast!

Thanks to Uranium and Fuse for putting this together (http://www.fuse.tv/content/uranium/php/videotop.php?aid=&media_url=http://mfile.akamai.com/2838/wmv/cablev.download.akamai.com/2838/fuse/uranium/dimebagtribute_hi.asx&clip_id=1645&media_type=win_hi)

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Iamnotatool
01-02-2005, 09:10 AM
This was posted elsewwhere and closed, figured I'd put it in the right thread (http://mfile.akamai.com/2838/wmv/cablev.download.akamai.com/2838/fuse/uranium/2004-12-28_anselmo_hi.asx)


Maybe it's just me, I don't claim to know the dynamic of Pantera or any of the bands involved. However, this guy Phil seems to be laying it on kinda thick here. Again, no offense intended, but this guy seems kinda douchy/pissed that DD's family kept him out of the funeral. They musta done it for some good reason, no?

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Snoogans
01-02-2005, 10:27 AM
he is a heroin adict, im sure he meant everything he said, but im sure he was also so high. and thats probably why the family didnt want him there, and he knows that had reason cause he said he understood

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Iamnotatool
01-02-2005, 10:29 AM
See that would make sense, thanks Snoogs. He looked to be a little fucked up, and I hope he gets his head on straight before we have another unecessary tradgedy.

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Snoogans
01-02-2005, 10:30 AM
i have a feeling that might be why we wont hear about him for a long time, he should probably take a little trip out to hazelton

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BoondockSaint
01-02-2005, 10:34 AM
Also, there is a theroy going around that the kid who shot Dimebag had read an article that came out a week earlier where Phil said about him, "He deserves to be severely beaten". He also said it was Dimebags fault that Pantera broke up.

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01-02-2005, 12:13 PM
sorry i posted it incorrectly and thank you tool for re posting.8)

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TheMojoPin
01-02-2005, 02:00 PM
It's obvious to me why the family didn't want Phil there, even before this video.

The guy has had serious addiction problems for years now, and it's made his behavior and performances erratic at best, and downright dangerously insane at the worst.

I honestly don't think the "feud" made the family call him off...shit like that gets tossed out the window when something this horrible happens. They didn't want him because of shit like this video, which just shows off how messed up this guy is.

Phil needs help, and pronto.

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Iamnotatool
01-02-2005, 02:03 PM
Werd.

Sorta like when someone says it ain't about the money, it's ALWAYS about the money. Phil says it ain't about him, yet it seems it is in his mind.

Again, this shit ain't my type of music, but, I know about drugs, and that guy is fucked up.

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old-fan
01-03-2005, 07:59 AM
i was a big pantera fan, never met the guys backstage or anything but their music was awsome.

i was listening to late night talk radio when the host came back and announced what happened, i was in shock and i still dont want to believe it.

i dont watch mtv or mtv 2 etc does anyone know what if any coverage this received?

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Hottub
03-05-2005, 06:37 PM
I recently got my hands on some awesome PanterA cover tracks.

I found "Seek an Destroy" A bit muffled, but still worthy of listening to.

An excellent cover of "Paranoid"

and PanterA rockin' "Cat Scratch Fever"
This one in particular is a gem. Dimebag, not over-doing what Ted has done, but a complete homage to the Mad-Man.

Outstanding!!!

I currently cannot host these tunes, but if there is any interest, I will mail you a CD.
Unless someone can help me host, then they are free to all!!

RIP, you crazy bastard!!


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fluffernutter
03-05-2005, 06:41 PM
Got the new BLS tonight and damn, what a tribute on there. Man, it's been 3 months or so now since. Zakk's on Headbanger's Ball and just waiting to see if he has anything to say.

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Hottub
03-05-2005, 06:45 PM
I'll put my life's savings on Zakk stepping up!!

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