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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:19 PM
with all this discussion about the nineties being "old school" and whatnot i suppose my question is Who killed kurt cobain? personally i wouldnt consider 10 years to be old school but millions of vh1 viewers cudnt be wrong i suppose, so what is everyones opinion on this? i read this book on the subject and i honestly dont think he killed himself...who did?
furie
10-31-2004, 07:21 PM
he shot himself in the face. accept it.
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10-31-2004, 07:22 PM
exactly as furie said. Move along.
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ChickenHawk
10-31-2004, 07:23 PM
who killed kurt cobain
His big toe.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:24 PM
thats what i used to think but the fact is he didnt..when he died he had 1.52 mg per liter of opiate in his system an amount that woulda had even the most tolerant addict unconsious in five seconds how cud he then roll down his sleeve put away his syringe in a box as he did and then shoot himself in the face without leaving fingerprints?
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10-31-2004, 07:24 PM
Uncle Hulka?
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furie
10-31-2004, 07:25 PM
who killed kurt cobain
His big toe.
I tip my hat to you, sir.
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mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 07:26 PM
but the fact is he didnt..
Fact? Hardly. All of the conspiracy theories have been shot full of holes. Stop believing half-baked theories.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:29 PM
id hardly call a bestselling book based on 10 years of research half baked...speak not of what you do not know
lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:36 PM
ok i got 33 views why is no one posting if youre so right tell me why i am so WRONG
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 07:40 PM
What was the last thing on Kurt Cobain's mind?
His teeth.
...
The "who killed Kurt Cobain" theories are pretty ludicrous, and don't really hold up to much scrutiny. They involve little to no evidence, and a whole lot of theories and guesses, and not much of anything else.
The heroin issue is the closest to potential "proof" that he couldn't have shot himself, but nobody can really say for sure. Cobain was a smack junkie of disgustingly high proportions, and it's very possible that even a dosage that high would not have incapacitated him as quickly as it would a "lesser" user. In short, the guy was a rich smackhead, and he had a really high tolerance. All he had to do was shoot up, put the equipment away, stick a large gun in his mouth and fire...we're talking maybe a minute or two, tops, and that's being generous.
Besides, look at the guy's history. He had suicide in his blood...literally.
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mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 07:42 PM
id hardly call a bestselling book based on 10 years of research half baked
Hiw exactly do "best seller" or "10 years of research" make something correct. Popular and overly researched crap is still crap.
And what Mojo said.
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fluffernutter
10-31-2004, 07:42 PM
Care?
It's not like it will bring him back to life anyway if someone did kill him he's still dead.
Thank goodness cause then he would just put out more garbage.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:46 PM
i understand where you are coming from and why there is probable cause to believe he killed himself, but i gotta tell ya he didnt. when interviewed, all of his friends and family thought he wasnt suicidal. The common misconseption is that the last year of his life escalated into a sadness he couldnt handle. the fact of it was that he was actually happy the last year. his chronic stomach pain had gone away, he had a new baby daughter, he was indeed very happy. one of the last places he was seen alive was a rehab center..he was obviously coming off of heroin...besides the fact that you are WRONG he would not have had time to shoot himself, experts say he had 5 seconds TOPS after that syringe went into his arm, it was pure barely diluted heroin, and anyway why would he blow his head off? why would he haunt his daughter with those images when he could easily OD on heroin. and thats not even touching on the fact that the only part of his "suicide note" that mentions suicide is the part that experts have conclusively stated wasnt written by him READ IT http://cobaniac.tripod.com/josh/id4.html
tell me that the last few sentences were written by him..its BS!
lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:47 PM
Care?
It's not like it will bring him back to life anyway if someone did kill him he's still dead.
Thank goodness cause then he would just put out more garbage.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:48 PM
dont you think the killer should be brought to justice...who ARE YOU to say that it isnt wrong to murder?
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 07:50 PM
There are even more "experts" that claim he DID write the note, and he COULD kill himself after shooting up.
Which do we believe?
Cobain fit the psych profile of a suicide to a tee.
And seemingly newfound happiness is actually typical of someone who has decided to kill themself. In the weeks leading up to his death, you're right, most people around said he "suddenly seemed much happier."
And if he WAS killed...who did it? And please don't say Courtney. That idiot was just as bad a junkie as he was half the time...suddenly she's some criminal mastermind?
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Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 07:51 PM
I think the Shadow Government shot him from one of their Black Helicopters right before they gave AIDS to the gay community.
Now adjust the tin foil hat and go out in the sunshine again.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:53 PM
well you make a good point, suicidals usually do show optimism the last few weeks of life but i didnt say last few weeks i said last YEAR... by the way i am not going to say who i think killed him im just gonna say i dont think he killed himself...what are these experts you are speaking of that say he did kill himself..have you researched the topic at all or are you merely speculating
lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:56 PM
by the way were you all aware that kurt and courtney had signed a prenup? were you aware that they were on the verge of divorce? courtney woulda gotten nothing...yet when he died she inherited his entire estate
Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 07:57 PM
Oh JESUS! RESEARCH?!?! Yea, let's see all your INDEPENDENT RESEARCH!!! You're just stating what you heard other say, just like Mojo was. PLEASE don't act like you have your own research info. We're all going off what people tell us.
YOU just happen to want to believe a minority of people with conspiracy theories instead of believeing what most likely happened. You're the kind of person who walks out of a Michael Moore movie shaking his head in agreement with everything.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 07:59 PM
first off michael moore is a liberal retard, second i didnt claim the research was mine, no idiot would, im claiming that i base my speculation on the solid ten years of an investigators life and work...what are you basing yours on...The Star?
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:00 PM
I've read the "Who Killed Kurt Cobain" book, and followed the Tom Grant "case" with mild interest in the late 90's/early 00's when I hit Nirvana fan sites looking for decent bootlegs. Oh, and of course, I've seen "Kurt & Courtney." Best laugh I had over a movie in years!
I wasn't impressed.
Like I said, mostly speculation and theories...not much to back them up.
Now let's cool it out, folks...everyone can have their fun. There's enough dead Kurt Cobain here for everyone.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:01 PM
if you really read "who killed kurt cobain" you'd know it doesnt accuse anybody it merely circles the theory
JohnnyCash
10-31-2004, 08:02 PM
Kurt killed himself.
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Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 08:02 PM
Uhhhhh, you know what. You continue to swallow the lie. What the fuck do I really care?
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fluffernutter
10-31-2004, 08:02 PM
Quite a compelling website.
Is it yours?
...and no mention of Kurt's involvement with The Melvins? Some of Kurt's best work was on Houdini.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:03 PM
if you didnt care you wouldnt be posting...you continue to call my theory bullshit yet you fail to counter my evidence with fact..interesting
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:03 PM
if you really read "who killed kurt cobain" you'd know it doesnt accuse anybody
I didn't say they did.
I posed the general question to all...if Kurt didn't kill himself, who did it?
In a criminal investigation, the answers tend to come together to answer the bigger questions. You don't have that here...the questions tend to lead ONLY to more questions...perhaps because the actual answer is already known?
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:04 PM
are you aware of the eldon hoke story?
lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:07 PM
basically there was a guy eldon "el duce" hoke who claimed that courtny love offered him 50 grand to off cobain and he took a polygraph which said that it was 99.91 percent shore he was telling the truth..although the fact she tried to hire someone doesnt necesarilly mean she did it, it certainly is suspicious is it not
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:07 PM
El Duce?
Yes.
It was in "Kurt & Courtney."
And there's a reason polygraph results are inadmissable in criminal investigations. They're not reliable.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:08 PM
whats your explanation for that
fluffernutter
10-31-2004, 08:08 PM
El Duce? El Duce of The Mentors El Duce?
Just out of curiosity and not trying to start shit but your first night posting here, ok, cool, all right with that, welcome. Why all of the Cobain Conspiracy Theory off the bat out of the blue?
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:09 PM
the same
lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:09 PM
i believe he was found dead either directly before or directly after he was scheduled to do a tv interview on it...suspicious
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:11 PM
Polygraphs are TEH SUCK! (http://antipolygraph.org/)
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Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 08:12 PM
So Courtney Love, the tallentless whore. The woman so whacked out she can't keep it together so she can keep her child. The woman rumored to be getting her music from Kurt. The woman you wouldn't fuck with a STOLEN DICK.
This woman had her husband kill, then had a guy who might have squealed killed too.
Wow, I feel burned.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:12 PM
whats your explanation for that? are you saying that 10 years of research and a polygraph are not enough for you to even consider the fact that he DID NOT KILL HIMSELF?
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:12 PM
i believe he was found dead either directly before or directly after he was scheduled to do a tv interview on it...suspicious
Yes, someone murdered him by hitting him with a train.
It's not a "fact" Cobain didn't kill himself.
It's not even a "fact" he DID kill himself.
Both are theories.
The latter is actually supported by far more evidence, and that the victim was an emotionally fucked-up junkie with suicide in his family, and constantly brought it up in his life and work.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:13 PM
read the headline
Spies, Saboteurs, and Terrorists
Can Easily Beat the Polygraph
After 9/11, isn't it about time our government woke up?
it says spies saboteurs and terrorists...eldon hoke was none of these things..he was a drunk
mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 08:14 PM
Everytime you post, you kill your own credibility.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:15 PM
not anyone is capable of murder, but anyone with a 100 G is capable of hiring a hitman
did i say that courtny love went in there with the gun and shot him? not even SHE is stupid enough to do that
mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 08:16 PM
If this gets even close to as annoying as the "no plane ever hit the Pentagon" thread, I'm banning on principal.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:18 PM
hahahahahha
Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 08:18 PM
Whoever you are sir, I want to thank you. The 1st time I post in MONTHS here, and there's some new guy posting something so utterly stupid and annoying that I can't help by respond and ridicule.
Amazing.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:20 PM
and youve backed yer ridicule with such solid evidence like "youre wrong" and "youre a conspiracy theorist" and "kurt killed himself" that i just cant help but bow down you the obvious superiority of your intelligence
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:22 PM
YOU'RE NOT PRESENTING ANYTHING THAT "PROVES" ANYTHING.
Get off the high horse.
I THINK he killed himself.
You THINK he was murdered.
That's all either of us has in the end.
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Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 08:22 PM
Damn right you bow.
HEY! Get away from my mule you freak!
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mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 08:23 PM
and other than the bit about what was in cobain's system and the polygraph (both ably answered by Mojo), you've offered nothing. Shocking, I know, but I remain unconvinced.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:24 PM
ive presented plenty...youre the one who has failed to show any counter evidence besides to ridicule and insult me..why do you post when you arent really SAYING anything
lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:26 PM
i told you the polygraph test results were conclusive..he was not lying, and coincidentally enough he died after disclosing this information. as to cobain system, it is fact that 5 seconds and NO later after that he was unconscious, the question is, in those five blurry darkening seconds did he take out the syringe roll down his sleeve put the syringe in the box put the lid on the box put the gun in his mouth and pull the trigger? chances are slim to none
Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 08:27 PM
Oh I get it now! He's Hypocritical Humor guy!
Bravo!!
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mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 08:27 PM
your "proof" is uncompelling. Your "facts" aren't facts. There's no need to offer anything in response.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:28 PM
on what basis do you say with authority my facts arent facts?? if they arent facts, WHY?!?!?
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:31 PM
Because they're just not facts.
A fact is something 100% correct or accurate.
You've not presented anything like that.
Like I said, I think Cobain killed himself, and back that theory, but I'm not gonna claim it's a "fact"...because it's not.
NONE OF THESE THEORIES ARE!
The "five second" theory is a THEORY. It's not a medical fact.
Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable. They are NOT "fact."
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mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 08:31 PM
You use the word "fact" repeatedly, with no real basis to claim them as facts. Therefore -- not facts.
edit: and what Mojo said
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Death Metal Moe
10-31-2004, 08:32 PM
The only fact here is that some guy with like 30 posts has totally HOOKED 2 Mods on this board.
Just have fun with it now. I gave up trying to disprove his retarded viewpoint posts ago.
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:34 PM
i told you countless times i base my speculation on 10 years of research of course it is not FACT per se but it is no less of fact that your supposed fact that he killed himself..the only reason we think he killed himself is that the investigators dismissed it as a suicide before they even considered murder... if they had realized the overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary of their ruling it would have been further investigated. the fact that the case is still closed is a matter of pride for the seattle police department
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:35 PM
Just when I think I'm out...
CURSE HIS CRAFTY HIDE!
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mikeyboy
10-31-2004, 08:37 PM
Moe killed him. He knew that if he had any chance of getting Unhallowed briefly mentioned on MTV, he'd have to get MTV's golden boy out of the way.
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10-31-2004, 08:37 PM
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lithium083189
10-31-2004, 08:38 PM
lets agree to disagree i didnt mean to get into an argument over this obviously youre never going to convince me im never going to convince you
TheMojoPin
10-31-2004, 08:41 PM
Works for me.
Besides, you made Moe kinda come back...that's MOST impressive.
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10-31-2004, 09:21 PM
Kurt Cobain was hired by LBJ to be killed by the Teamsters Union.
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fluffernutter
10-31-2004, 09:44 PM
i base my speculation on 10 years of research
Now I don't feel so bad about wasting the last hour with my Bang Bros Trial Subscription.
I'm all down with your research and your "theories" that Mr. Cobain was killed. Go with it because it is something you are obviously passionate about and we all have to be passionate about something. I like French Onion Soup. It's what I live for. I am just still wondering what brought you here to up and start this big Kurt Cobain thing out of nowhere. To be honest I haven't even thought of him for years. Come to think of it, I had to even remember the fact that he was dead he was so far out of my memory bank.
The 1st time I post in MONTHS here, and there's some new guy posting something so utterly stupid and annoying that I can't help by respond and ridicule.
Ironic? Don't you think?
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morecowbell11
10-31-2004, 10:36 PM
who killed kurt cobain. maybee we all did. he didnt ask to be the voice of dejected youth. he didnt ask to be the poster boy for grunge rock that explained his generations agonizing apathy. who killed kurt cobain my friend, well maybee you should take a good long look in the mirror
please stop that, your hurting me
Mike Teacher
11-01-2004, 01:17 AM
A little semantics, and protocol for claims:
Speculation isnt facts and arent based on a decade of research. Speculations are guesses, often wild guesses. Theories are based on evidence.
A claim is made: 'Soomeone Killed Cobain'
Claims require evidence for said claim; the burden of evidence is on the person who makes the claim to provide the evidence.
Here's where it falls apart for most. Showing that the 'current theory' may not be 100% accurate is not evidence For a claim, saying 'this or that' wasnt right/didnt fit; this isnt evidence For a theory.
People can scream from the rooftops as to any one of a million conspiacies: Look! the data doesnt fit! Look at these numbers! This here!
Thats nice; but until one provide Evidence For their claim, they are providing no evidence whatsoever.
This may even fall into Sagans 'Extraordinary Claim' status: ya know, JFK,UFOs, Bigfoot; his challenge: Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence may be somewhat flawed, but for a Theory to be put forth, a real theory, it cant be "He didnt killed himself because the current theory has holes in it."
Burden of Evidence is on the person making the claim. I say I got a pink Unicorn in my garage eating all my good garbage? That my problem, to show the police, not the police's to search for.
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TheMojoPin
11-01-2004, 05:46 AM
Burden of Evidence is on the person making the claim.
Exactly.
See? He's a teacher for a reason.
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furie
11-01-2004, 05:51 AM
Mein Kampf was a bestseller. so what does that prove?
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badorties
11-01-2004, 06:01 AM
he had a history of depression and suicide in his family ...
he was fixated with guns, and was photographed with an assault rifle in his mouth ...
he was a junky that clouded his self image and perception of things ...
he wrote a song called, "i hate myself and want to die" ...
he penned lyrics, "if you kill yourself, you'll make them happy" and "i don't know why, but i'd rather be dead than cool" ...
his released diary has notes wishing he'd become a huge rock star and kill himself ...
of course someone murdered him ....
i think people watch too many cop and forensic shows thinking that there must be some twist or angle to a death ...
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Mike Teacher
11-01-2004, 07:02 AM
he was fixated with guns, and was photographed with an assault rifle in his mouth ...
Another was in a Mag recently [Blender?] I hadnt seen; him with a handgun, in his mouth, looking at the camera. Mikeyboy, you saw it last time I was on-air.
Oh, and about Mein Kamph; it shows you what a Prick Hitler was. No dedication!
Wow I love to rip off comics.
Now, about that grassy knoll...
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Freakshow
11-01-2004, 07:11 AM
Who killed kurt cobain
It was you and me.
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TheMojoPin
11-01-2004, 07:59 AM
he had a history of depression and suicide in his family ...
he was fixated with guns, and was photographed with an assault rifle in his mouth ...
he was a junky that clouded his self image and perception of things ...
he wrote a song called, "i hate myself and want to die" ...
he penned lyrics, "if you kill yourself, you'll make them happy" and "i don't know why, but i'd rather be dead than cool" ...
his released diary has notes wishing he'd become a huge rock star and kill himself ...
of course someone murdered him ....
i think people watch too many cop and forensic shows thinking that there must be some twist or angle to a death ...
He also made short films when he was a teenager, and at one point he and his buddies made one that details Kurt killing himself by slicing open his wrists with a shredded soda can.
Yeah, he was perfectly fine. Not suicidal AT ALL.
That, and both his uncle and grandfather killed themselves, two events he dwelled over often.
Not exactly the recipe for mental health, y'know?
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Iamnotatool
11-01-2004, 09:22 AM
I think it was the butler in the dining room with the candlestick.
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11-01-2004, 10:18 AM
Hey Mikeyboy,
No plane ever hit the pentagon!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-01-2004, 10:25 AM
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lithium083189
11-01-2004, 12:48 PM
www.cobaincase.com
read it with an open mind
and tell me kurt cobain killed himself
badorties
11-01-2004, 12:58 PM
i might entertain yer case ... but listing 'kurt & courtney' as a legit source really hurts any viable credibility ...
broomfield made one of the most unfounded, pointless, god awful pieces of shit for a movie i've ever seen ...
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furie
11-01-2004, 12:58 PM
kurt cobain killed himself
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lithium083189
11-01-2004, 01:10 PM
was i advertising "kurt and courtny" i dont even recall mentioning it
GodsFavoriteMan
11-01-2004, 01:20 PM
It's very rare that I assert my special privelege with God, but I figured he's the only one who could really answer this and end this gay ass debate.
What happened was Kurt Cobain did actually kill himself, but not because of drugs or Courtney. He apparently had been receiving a deluge of creepy calls from a man with a vibrator offering sexual favors with a falafel "thing" and just simply couldn't take it anymore.
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badorties
11-01-2004, 01:32 PM
was i advertising "kurt and courtny" i dont even recall mentioning it
the website you quoted has it listed ...
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keithy_19
11-01-2004, 01:34 PM
Kurt Cobain choked on a piece of pie and the Courtney shot him for laughs cause she was high.
Or, she had someone kill him for her. Or she did it herself.
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furie
11-01-2004, 01:35 PM
Lane Staley killed Cobain and then out of guilty, killed himself.............8 years later.
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11-01-2004, 01:39 PM
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11-01-2004, 02:53 PM
Marq Torien killed Kurt Cobain? Makes sense now.
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11-01-2004, 03:06 PM
who killed kurt cobain
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badorties
11-01-2004, 04:30 PM
rather that wallow in all this pointless, salacious gossip -- here's some info on the new boxed set coming out later in the month ....
Here is the track list for "With the Lights Out":
"Heartbreaker" (1987)
"Anorexorcist" (1987)
"White Lace and Strange" (1987)
"Help Me I'm Hungry" (1987)
"Mrs. Butterworth" (1987)
"If You Must" (1988)
"Pen Cap Chew" (1988)
"Downer" (1988)
"Floyd the Barber" (1988)
"Raunchola/Moby Dick" (1988)
"Beans" (undated)
"Don't Want It All" (undated)
"Clean Up Before She Comes" (undated)
"Polly" (1988)
"About a Girl" (1988)
"Blandest" (1988)
"Dive" (1988)
"They Hung Him on a Cross" (1989)
"Grey Goose" (1989)
"Ain't It a Shame" (1989)
"Token Eastern Song" (1989)
"Even in His Youth" (1989)
"Polly" (1989)
Disc two:
"Opinion" (1990)
"Lithium" (1990)
"Been a Son" (1990)
"Sliver" (1989)
"Where Did You Sleep Last Night" (1989)
"Pay To Play" (1990)
"Here She Comes Now" (1990)
"Drain You" (1990)
"Aneurysm" (1990)
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991 demo)
"Breed" (1991)
"Verse Chorus Verse" (1991)
"Old Age" (1991)
"Endless, Nameless" (1991)
"Dumb" (1991)
"D-7" (1990)
"Oh the Guilt" (1992)
"Curmudgeon" (1992)
"Return of the Rat" (1992)
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991 Butch Vig mix)
Disc three:
"Rape Me" (1992 acoustic version)
"Rape Me" (1992 electric version)
"Scentless Apprentice" (1992)
"Heart Shaped Box" (1993)
"I Hate Myself and I Want To Die" (1993)
"Milk It" (1993)
"Moist Vagina" (1993)
"Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through the Strip" (1993)
"The Other Improv" (1993)
"Serve the Servants" (1993)
"Very Ape" (1993)
"Pennyroyal Tea" (1993)
"Marigold" (1993)
"Sappy" (1993)
"Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam" (1994)
"Do Re Mi" (1994)
"You Know You're Right" (1994 home demo)
"All Apologies" (undated)
DVD:
"Love Buzz" (1988 rehearsal)
"Scoff" (1988 rehearsal)
"About a Girl" (1988 rehearsal)
"Big Long Now" (1988 rehearsal)
"Immigrant Song" (1988 rehearsal)
"Spank Thru" (1988 rehearsal)
"Hairspray Queen" (1988 rehearsal)
"School" (1988 rehearsal)
"Mr. Moustache" (1988 rehearsal)
"Big Cheese" (1989)
"In Bloom" (music video, 1989)
"Sappy" (1990)
"School" (1990)
"Love Buzz" (1990)
"Pennyroyal Tea" (1991)
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991)
"Territorial Pissings" (1991)
"Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam" (1991)
"Talk to Me" (1992)
"Seasons in the Sun" (1993)
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11-03-2004, 07:30 PM
El Duce?
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reeshy
11-03-2004, 08:31 PM
I heard tha Bush might have had something to do with it....after all....he's blamed for everything else!!!!
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my.pig.is.pete.
12-02-2004, 02:52 PM
Yeah. I hate how some people just dont want to beleive that kurt killed himself. he was an unhappy, depressed guy and anyone who has read the kurt cobain journals would be able to see things a little more from his point of view. Also, anyone who blames courtbey, i hope you know that kurt would beat your a** and that no matter what he is going to be dead and remain that way.
suedeface
12-02-2004, 03:23 PM
What makes everyone so sure he's dead. I swear I saw him walking on the side of the road one day.
Bulldogcakes
12-13-2004, 02:31 AM
id hardly call a bestselling book based on 10 years of research half baked
Trust me. I know half baked when I see it. I own a bakery.
Just be glad he died when he did. Or by now he might be at Camp Daltry and Kulick
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Walrus622
12-13-2004, 10:36 AM
"Just be glad he died when he did. Or by now he might be at Camp Daltry and Kulick" Or worse, touring with john cougar mellencamp and pearl jam trying to get frankenstien elected!
Walrus622
12-13-2004, 10:37 AM
"Just be glad he died when he did. Or by now he might be at Camp Daltry and Kulick" Or worse, touring with john cougar mellencamp and pearl jam trying to get frankenstien elected!
Walrus622
12-13-2004, 10:40 AM
Horrible editing. I suck, sorry.
keithy_19
12-13-2004, 11:55 AM
Didn't he use a shot gun? I dunno about you, it seems to me though that it's hard to use a shot gun to kill yourself.
I'm not entirely sure about anything with the story by the way. So there ya go.
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ChildofFez
12-13-2004, 12:01 PM
Well I always said Kurt Cobain's best career move was committing suicide. go out on top and bang instant legend.
no pun intended
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Snoogans
12-13-2004, 12:01 PM
who killed kurt cobain
it was fuckin Suge Knight, now can we let it go
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Bulldogcakes
12-14-2004, 06:08 PM
Horrible editing. I suck, sorry.
Your editing sucked, but it was a pretty good come back! I laughed.
Your editing was pretty funny too.
BTW
Look for"{quote}" . . . .the actual quote you want . . . . then look for"{/quote}" and clean up the crap you dont want (pics, sigs)
Then put your comments here
You'll figure it out
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furie
12-14-2004, 06:48 PM
kurt cobain killed himself because of your editing
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12-14-2004, 06:59 PM
Haha. It's true.
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Snoogans
12-14-2004, 07:02 PM
bret michaels and sabastian bach killed him for ruining their careers
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01-16-2005, 04:24 PM
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02-20-2005, 04:57 PM
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02-20-2005, 05:00 PM
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Heavy
04-01-2005, 10:58 PM
His daughter should be of age pretty soon. I bet she's a lot o fun.
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badorties
04-13-2005, 03:31 AM
<p> </p><p><font size="1">His daughter should be of age pretty soon.</font></p><p>she's twelve, so it's another six years for ya to wait ...</p>
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monsterone
04-21-2005, 10:11 PM
let's weigh the options- she has cooourtney's looks or kurt's. check the gene pool thread.
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Batch^Master
12-04-2005, 12:58 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>with all this discussion about the nineties being "old school" and whatnot i suppose my question is Who killed kurt cobain? personally i wouldnt consider 10 years to be old school but millions of vh1 viewers cudnt be wrong i suppose, so what is everyones opinion on this? i read this book on the subject and i honestly dont think he killed himself...who did? A little man called herion addiction, he is a nasty sort...<br />
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