2004-2005 MLB Off-Season Moves Thread

[Crippler]

You Crippler are a motherfucking disgrace to all Yankee fans, Baseball, and Humanity itself. BABE FUCKING RUTH WAS #3!! REPEAT #3!!!!!!! HOW CAN YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO BREATHE AS A YANKEE FAN AND FUCK THAT UP!!!!!!
Wow, my head just almost exploded...glad you re-read it before I got to respond. :)

This is not unusual for a Yankee fan. ZING!
I knew it wouldn't take long...bite me!

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[TheMojoPin]

Cubs really don't have a "nemesis" team



i always thought the cubs and cardinals had a bit of a rivalry ...

Nah. Maybe a bit during the home run race a few years back...but it's nothing serious. I guess I'd have to pick the Reds more than anything else. The only time I've seen a decent amount of opposing team fans show up at Wrigley is when the Reds play there. Those people are loyal!

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[Bulldogcakes]

Cubs really don't have a "nemesis" team

Too busy fighting themselves, no room for "external" enemies.

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[BoondockSaint]

Burnitz signs with the Cubs. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1982551)

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[Kevin]

Decent signing. Ordonez would have been better but the Tigers seem insane enough to give him 55mil

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[TheMojoPin]

Nice pick up.

Not spectacular...but it goes a long way in helping to fill up the outfield, and bringing some solid hitting.

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[Iamnotatool]

Great sign for the Cubs. Burnitz hits for every team he plays for except the Mets. And even though he had a rough time here, he always came to play and gave 100%. He'll hit 30 bombs for the Cubbies and he's a good clubhouse guy. I'd rather have him than Sammy Sosa.


Also, regardless of how he's hitting, he's a top notch rightfielder with an absolute gun for an arm.
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[Bulldogcakes]

Nice pick up.

Not spectacular...but it goes a long way in helping to fill up the outfield, and bringing some solid hitting

Mojo, he'll hit his 30 HR's for you. And strike out his 150 times. I hate players like that. Make contact you shmuck. You'll love the long balls but when there's a runner in scoring position and you're a run down with 1 or 2 outs, this guy will do nothing for you. Not move the runner, not shorten the swing for a single. Nope. It's either the 30 HR or the 150 SO. Guess which one you'll see alot more of.

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[BoondockSaint]

Sosa: Greatest Cub ever? (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=1982179) I always thought it was Steve Trout.

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[Fallon]

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[TheMojoPin]

Nice pick up.

Not spectacular...but it goes a long way in helping to fill up the outfield, and bringing some solid hitting

Mojo, he'll hit his 30 HR's for you. And strike out his 150 times. I hate players like that. Make contact you shmuck. You'll love the long balls but when there's a runner in scoring position and you're a run down with 1 or 2 outs, this guy will do nothing for you. Not move the runner, not shorten the swing for a single. Nope. It's either the 30 HR or the 150 SO. Guess which one you'll see alot more of.

Great, sounds just like Sosa...

Nah, I think he'll do alright, and like Tool said, he's a fantastic fielder, FAR better than Sammy ever was out there.

And Sammy as the greatest Cub of all time?!? What, was Ernie Banks wiped from existence?!? This shit is ridiculous...and an insult to players like Banks, Billy Williams, Sandberg...horseshit.

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[Kevin]

I think it was a pretty damn good move.

He basicly avg 254 31 96 avg is bad but when you put into it that his on base is 351 thats fantastic for a guy whos avg is 254 and his slugging is 492 and ops 842. Not to shabby

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[A.J.]

Greatest Cub ever?

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

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[BoondockSaint]

Tigers sign Ordonez for five years $75 million. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1985108) The contract is voidable if his knee acts up.

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[WindowSill]

Wow, thats a huge amount of money. I personally dont think Ordonez brings enough to the table to command 15 mill per year...


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[Bulldogcakes]

Wow, thats a huge amount of money. I personally dont think Ordonez brings enough to the table to command 15 mill per year...

Amen. And thats if HEALTHY. But it's not guarenteed, so its like an NFL deal. That knee acts up and they don't pay a dime.
So the deal is worth anywhere from $0 to $75 million
I wish ALL Baseball contracts were like this

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[BoondockSaint]

Cubs trade Farnsworth to Tigers. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1987747) I don't know what it is with him but if he could ever figure it out he could be a dominating releiver.

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[Fallon]

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Man, he's getting ripped...

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[Bulldogcakes]

Cubs trade Farnsworth to Tigers. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1987747) I don't know what it is with him but if he could ever figure it out he could be a dominating releiver.

Dont let a 100 mph fastball fool you. There are guys that throw that hard who cant get anyone out (Jose Mesa/Scott Proctor, etc) Then there are guys that throw 93-95 who've been unhittable (Mariano Rivera). Its more about movement, especially LATE movement. Hitters will tell you they can time ANY fastball if it doesn't do much.

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[TheMojoPin]

When Farnsworth was on, he's be devastating. He'd come in in the 8th or 9th and just shut down 3-6 batters in a row. But games like that were too rare. More often he'd completely fuck up and allow multiple runs. There was no middle ground with him...he was either phenomenal or a disaster.

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[Reboot]

Jose Mesa?

not to mention the fact that he's like 50 but I'm rather certain he might hold the career saves record...how can you say he can't get people out? He can't get people out NOW...but he's fuckin ancient.

[BoondockSaint]

I'm rather certain he might hold the career saves record


He's 17th all time. He has had 4 or 5 good years. One was dominant: 46 saves 1.13 era in '95 for the Indians.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Jose Mesa?

not to mention the fact that he's like 50 but I'm rather certain he might hold the career saves record...how can you say he can't get people out? He can't get people out NOW...but he's fuckin ancient.

Wow, wrong on every point. He's 38. 17th all time in Saves. He's actually been BETTER in recent years. Started out as a mediocre starter. He was an unhittable closer in 95, good in 96, then awful for the next 4 years. In 2001 he regained his form and has been good since.

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[WindowSill]

In 2001 he regained his form and has been good since.


Except of course 2003, when he went 5-7 with 24 saves and a 6.52 ERA which is why not a single team wanted any part of him until the Pirates finally picked him up very late in the offseason....


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[Snoogans]

how does someone on this board not know the saves leader is lee smith. you all know cause somehow, john franco is second

jose mesa sucks donkey dick


I'm rather certain he might hold the career saves record


rather certain that he might, what the fuck kinda psycho babble is that

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[Iamnotatool]

Jose Mesa sucks donkey balls, he cant get an out in a big spot.

He had 1 good year, so have lotsa guys.

I sorta kinda think Lidge will be FILTHY this year.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Lidge is the man.
I'm beginning to wonder how much Mo has left for the Yanks. He was great last year, but he is 35. He cant last forever.

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[Iamnotatool]

Johan Santana signed a 4 year extension with the Twins. Good for them for being able to keep him for a while.

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[Kevin]

Yea good for them.

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[TheGameHHH]

Santana is nasty.....he scares me every time the Yankees have to face him.

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[Crippler]

I'm sure that doesn't make the Big Stein all that happy, but I'm glad. It's about time certain teams started locking up their franchise players, rather than letting them walk or trading them in the middle of their last season of their rookie deal, etc.

Now if someone would just send a memo to those a-holes in Oakland.

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[Kevin]

Lidge is the man.
I'm beginning to wonder how much Mo has left for the Yanks. He was great last year, but he is 35. He cant last forever.


I heard That Mo has developed a Nasty Changeup. Now if thats true, He is going to be insane.

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[WindowSill]

Yankees took the word "steroids" out of Giambis contract because they "thought it was protected by broader language" (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1991608)

Deeks...


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[TheGameHHH]

I heard That Mo has developed a Nasty Changeup. Now if thats true, He is going to be insane.

just out of curiousity, where did you hear this?


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[Kevin]

Miked Up. Mike Francessa said that Mel told him.

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Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.

[TheGameHHH]

That news gives me a 3 inch boner.......I hope it turns out to be true.

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[Fallon]

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[Kevin]

Mojo.........You may not want to see this......... (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/03/10/bc.bba.cubs.wood.ap/index.html)

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Big Thanx to Fallon.

Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.</center>

[Iamnotatool]

Another reason to avoid Cub pitchers in fantasy drafts

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[Kevin]

Or hitters.......

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Big Thanx to Fallon.

Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.</center>

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, I saw that earlier today when I was checking the score while the game was going on.

Bummer, but it doesn't sound too serious.

*Knock on wood*

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[Kevin]

Ah those Cubbies (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2012934)

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Big Thanx to Fallon.

Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.</center>

[WindowSill]

Jesus, its like the exact same shit as last year...except now theyre missin the noticible bats of Sosa and Alou....and now, instead of Matt Clement, the 5th starter is Glendon Rusch...


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[BoondockSaint]

It only gets worse for the Cubs. Borowski out for six weeks. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2018952)

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[TheMojoPin]

*Dies*

Well, at least Wood and Prior are improving.

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