2004-2005 MLB Off-Season Moves Thread

[WindowSill]

I would honestly have no problem if they trade Floyd for nothing and have Victor Diaz playing left next year.

As far as Wright goes, heres a guy that in just 69 games hit 14 home runs and drove in 40. I think hes ready to bat 5th in a lineup and will be able to protect Piazza more so than Cameron who strikes out over 200 times a season.


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[WindowSill]

The Mets relievers need work, but theyre not as bad as youre mmaking them out to be.

Heath Bell didnt give up many runs in 24.1 innings pitched last year, had a 3.33 ERA and strikes out more than a batter per inning.

Mike Dejean was fantastic after coming to the Mets, in 21.1 innings pitched he sported a 1.69 ERA, struck out 24 and walked just 5.

Feliciano was very inconsistent but as far as lefty mop up guys go, he's alright...

This kid Fortunato they got along with Zambrano did alright. And Im not even sure if theyll have him on the 25 man roster.

Matt Ginter and Jae Seo are pretty good long relievers I think.

Tyler Yates has a ton of potential, I like him a lot.

And Branden Looper did great last year no problem there.

Heredia....ehhhhh....


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[Snoogans]

its not Brandon goddammit
its Braden, and thats not just to you, to everyone ive seen it from, and all the dumbasses that call the fan

anyway, aside from looper, the only other guy that even looks tempting is dejean, and he is like 90

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[WindowSill]

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[BoondockSaint]

And the Mets have a guy in the minor leagues named Yusmeiro Petit who you should keep an eye. At St. Lucie last year he had 62 k's and a 1.22era in 44 inn. Then he moved up to Binghampton at the end of the year and had 16 k's in 12 inn. And he has 53 k's 8 bb's in 50 inn. in the winter league this year. He just turned 20. He may start at Norfolk but I could see himm getting a shot at some point this year.

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[WindowSill]

Lets not forget about Royce Ring either. He probably wont get a shot this year, but I think theyll bring him up by 06...


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[Snoogans]

when are you silly bastards gonna realize that mets prospects only reach their potential if the mets trade them. the guys the mets keep suck

thats why i know Kazmir is gonna be a great one

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[WindowSill]

the guys the mets keep suck


You cant really say that considering the Mets never kept a top prospect...


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[Snoogans]

yea they have, and the current one cant play more than 20 games without gettin hurt.

izzy sucked with the mets, he is a good closer. burnitz sucked as a met, left and was great, came back and kinda sucked again. guess who blew ass as a met, JEFF KENT. goes to SF and wins MVP. many other guys who were never good, but alot more servicable on other teams then the mets. everyone who plays for the mets plays better on the other teams they played for sans piazza.

just like the rangers, sans messier

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[BoondockSaint]

Lets not forget about Royce Ring either. He probably wont get a shot this year, but I think theyll bring him up by 06...


What's the deal with him? The Mets left him unprotected for the Rule V draft and I thought he was gone. Then nobody picked him up.

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[WindowSill]

Jose Reyes, David Wright...oh yes, theyre terrible...


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[WindowSill]

What's the deal with him?


He wasnt all that great in 04, though thats not to say he was bad either. He pitched 28.2 innings in Binghampton. 2-2 with a 3.77 ERA, struck out 23 walked 11. I dont know the deal with them leaving him open but they are still pretty high on him.


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[Snoogans]

Jose Reyes, David Wright...oh yes, theyre terrible...


Wright played half a year, ill say you got a shot with himm, but you gotta keep him.

reyes, yea, ill say is fuckin terrible. he is a 20 year old kid who pulls more muscles than i do. he cant go 3 weeks without hurting something, and on top of that, seems to be afraid of playing hurt.

to me, thats even shittier then having a bad player. at least you know a bad player sucks, reyes is good, so you count on him being good, and then you dont know when the hell he is gonna play, fuck that

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[WindowSill]

Mets trade Vance Wilson to Detroit for minor leaguer... (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nym/news/nym_news.jsp?ymd=20050106&content_id=928185&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp)

Looks like theyre gonna keep Piazza and have him play catcher...


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[BoondockSaint]

Astros make final offer to Beltran. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1961124)

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[Bulldogcakes]

Reports are 84/6 from Astros. 14 per. So much for the 16, 17,18 we've been hearing. More Boras BS. If the Mets do 15/7 (105) I think it's a good deal. Little high, but not enough to go crazy over.

BTW Mets fans expect his #s to be a little less in Shea. They usually are for most hitters.

Yanks are out of this, and most reports will tell you that. If they signed Beltran for 16 mil, add to that the 40% luxury tax. So now he costs 22.4 mil per for the Yanks. PLUS they already HAVE a centerfielder in Bernie making ANOTHER 15 mil this year. So centerfield, for 2005, would cost the Yanks 37.4 mil. Not happening. Even George isn't that nuts.
Plus w/George the question always is "Will he help us win this year?" The answer w/ Beltran is no. They'll win w/or without him.

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[Crippler]

Yanks are out of this, and most reports will tell you that...So centerfield, for 2005, would cost the Yanks 37.4 mil. Not happening. Even George isn't that nuts.
When George covets a player as much as it was rumored that he did in this case, I find it hard to believe any financial consideration would stop him from signing him.

I'm not arguing that the Yanks are out of it, because I think the Big Ugly negotiations have appeased the master. But if those talks wrap in the next few days & Beltran is still out there, and the Mets are back page everyday with these talks, I wouldn't rule out a last minute offer from the Big Stein. And, as we all know, if it contains an extra $0.50 per year, Boras will be all over it.

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[Walrus622]

For once I would like to see boras do the best thing for his player by keeping Beltran in Houston. It makes the most sense for the team and the player. Going to shea to watch a game is hard enough, let alone having to work there(no matter how much he is paid).

[BoondockSaint]

When George covets a player as much as it was rumored that he did in this case, I find it hard to believe any financial consideration would stop him from signing him.


There was a very good article in the Times yesterday looking at the Yankees' finances.
Here's the link, (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/sports/baseball/06yankees.html?th) but I think you need to register.



Consider that in addition to a 2004 payroll of $187.9 million, Steinbrenner, the Yankees' principal owner, was saddled last year with two other large expenses: $63 million to be paid into Major League Baseball's revenue-sharing fund and $25 million in luxury-tax payments, a penalty that only the Yankees have paid in each of the past two years. That meant that $276 million went to players and less-wealthy teams, from total revenue estimated at $315 million to $350 million, before Manager Joe Torre, the coaches, the front office, the minor league system and the rent were paid.


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[Fallon]

Mientkiewicz is a dick! (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=531&e=1&u=/ap/20050107/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_world_series_ball)

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[HBox]

If the Red Sox start stinking up the farm for another 86 years, at least they have another excuse at the ready: The Curse of the Curse-Ending Ball.



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[Iamnotatool]

Good, maybe now they'll trade him to the Mets.

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[Crippler]

Take it easy, Tool, I don't think they're that mad at him.

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[Reephdweller]

I say let 'em keep it.

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[mdr55]

Fuck that. Let the guy keep the ball.

If it was some pitcher and his pitched something good like 3,000 K's, a no-hitter, would the club ask for the ball??

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Better yet. Did the Red Sox keep that ball that went through Bill Buckner's legs?? That's a part of history.

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[Walrus622]

The legacy of the idiots continues.

[BoondockSaint]

He should auction it off for charity and the Red Sox could win the bidding and then everyone looks good. To say you want to keep it so you can sell it when you already make a few million a year is a little classless.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Why is this anybody's business? He caught it, he keeps it and does whatever the fuck he wants with it. If he keeps it, auctions it, or has his boyfriend shove it up his ass every night why is this anyone's business?

John Henry has a few sheckles. If he wants it, he should work out a mutually agreeable transaction. Or maybe if this guy's stupid enough, he'll let everyone bullshit him out of this valuable piece of property. But acting like he has no "RIGHT" to do this is fuckin communist.

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[Bulldogcakes]

The team has an option to renew it at $4 million for 2006 but has said it intends to trade Mientkiewicz or its other first baseman, Kevin Millar, before spring training.

Geez, the guy plays half a season, now were trying to trade him, and he doesn't have an undying bond with the city of Boston? Go figure.

"Of course I want Red Sox fans to see the ball. The main reason why I hung on to the darn thing is because I want people to see it. "
- Doug Mientkiewicz

D.M."And you'll get the ball . . . . . . . . . FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND!!!"

Sox Fans "THAT CAN BE ARRANGED!"

So who owns it?

"This is a gray area as to what players think they can take with them," Lucchino said.

Carmine Tiso, spokesman for MLB, told the Globe that Mientkiewicz owns the baseball. Joe Januszewski, Red Sox director of corporate partnerships, said he thinks the team owns it.

Lets see. Who will I believe here. Someone from the impartial office of MLB, or Lucchino or someone else who works for the Sox. Hmmm. Give me a minute, I'm sorting through this. Hmmmmmm. . . . .



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[BoondockSaint]

Mets sign Cairo. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1961652)

I like it. I'm surprised he couldn't get a full time job somewhere but he is a better back up then Joe McEwing.

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[WindowSill]

I have no problem having Cairo. His numbers are pretty much average for a second baseman. And I mean, cmon, we know hes gonna get playing time when you got Reyes and Matsui in the middle...


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[jocefus]

Dodgers signed Derick Lowe to a 4 year deal worth about 36 million.. dodgers have made some pretty good off season moves this year.. so they lost beltre but picked up kent and jd drew to pick up the slack.. not sure where kent is gonna play because cora is such a better defensive 2nd baseman.. cora and izturis are one of the top double play combos in the nl..

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[WindowSill]

They could always play Kent at 3rd... The outfield looks good even without Green. They got 6 very solid pitchers in Weaver, Penny, Jackson, Ishii, Perez, and now Lowe. They have a good player at every position except left and catcher...bullpen is very good, capped off by gagne...I dont see how San Francisco or the DBacks will be able to compete with that...


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[jocefus]

la really needs to get a catcher.. im still pissed that they traded lo duca.. jason werth is pretty decent in left, plus he has a big bat and it showed in the post season.. hope milton can keep his cool this year so la doesnt have to look for another center fielder...

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[WindowSill]

Well if the trade for Navarro doesnt go through, it could still be a possibility for them to trade Green for Piazza since the Mets have yet to sign a first baseman, though this move has become more and more unlikely since winter meetings. I think itd work out for both teams...


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[BoondockSaint]

Green has already said he wouldn't waive his no trade clause to play in NY. Plus I wouldn't want to give him an extension anyway.

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[jocefus]

possibility for them to trade Green for Piazza

fuk that... i would protest next season if piazza is back with the dodgers...

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[ChickenHawk]

It's 20 minutes past the deadline, and no one knows shit about Beltran yet.

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[WindowSill]

Beltran will not be returning to Houston... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1962630)


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[Bulldogcakes]

WFAN's reporting The Mets and Beltran are working out final details, deal likely.

Congrats Sill, Tool and the rest of you Mets!

He's a real good player and a solid addition to any team. One of the best Centerfielders in Baseball. Between him and Cameron you'll have a great defensive outfield.
Just dont be upset and say he's a bust if he hits 26 HR's 100 RBI's and bats .280. Those are his career averages. Maybe even expect a little less in Shea, a tough hitter's park. Runs, steals bases, makes all the plays. No flaws in his game.
Again, Congrats!

Someone who knows more about the Mets than me please do a tentative lineup

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[BoondockSaint]

How's this:

Reyes
Matsui
Beltran
Delgado
Piazza
Wright
Floyd
Cameron

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[ADF]

I think Delgado might be overkill, but I certainly wouldn't complain. As a Dodgers fan, I'm glad the Green move didn't work out (at least so far, it hasn't).

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[Iamnotatool]

Fuck Delgado, he's an ingrate.


I'm officially erect. Beltran has been my boy for 3 years now, and if he's on the Mets I can die in peace. Now get me Mantkavich!

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[WindowSill]

They have been continually pursuing Delgado while workin shit out with Beltran. I think of all the teams trying to get him, the Mets probably have the best chance to sign him...

Im still pretty sure that theyre gonna trade Floyd, but either way, thats a hell of a line up to compliment that pitching staff...


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[Iamnotatool]

Source: Beltran and Mets agree to try to work out $119 million contract

NICE!!!!!! (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpNWZic251BF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=ap-mets-beltran&prov=ap&type=lgns)

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[BoondockSaint]

Newsday (http://www.nynewsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spbeltran0110,0,5244310.story?coll=nyc-homepage-breaking2) has a good article about it. This fucking rocks.

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[Snoogans]

when do you think George comes in with the 7 year 135 million dollar deal?

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[Iamnotatool]

SHUT UP SNOOGANS!!!!!!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

Fuckin' cheap-ass Cubs.

Beltran is exactly the kinda guy they should dive on if they wanna dump Sosa, and they weren't willing to go above $90 million for a multi-year deal with the guy.

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[mothershucker]

Beltran is a Met.

They will make the playoffs this year.

They will not sign Delgodo.

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

[Bulldogcakes]

They have been continually pursuing Delgado while workin shit out with Beltran. I think of all the teams trying to get him, the Mets probably have the best chance to sign him...

I keep hearing Baltimore, a great hitter's park. Geez the #'s he'll put up there.

I hope you get him. Not only a slugger, he also has a great eye, and .392 career OBP. He's actually a little odd in that he strikes out, but walks alot too. Mets get him and in that weak division, they just might be favorites. Still need some bullpen help.

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[BoondockSaint]

Still need some bullpen help.


Are you crazy? We signed Dae Sung Koo (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/269537p-230879c.html)! Dae Sung Koo! Who needs more then that?

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[Bulldogcakes]

Dae Sung Koo? Are you serious? Plan the parade!

In four seasons in the Japanese League, Koo went 24-34 with 10 saves and a 3.88 ERA

A losing record and a 4 plus ERA last year. Oh, by the way he did that IN FUCKING JAPAN! Can you find guys that suck in THIS COUNTRY PLEASE!

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[WindowSill]

Better than anyone that was in the Mets pen last year...


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[Iamnotatool]

The fact that our bullpen is now our biggest concern gives me another hardon

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[Bulldogcakes]

Throw in Felix Horrendous, I mean Heredia.
Felix "When you need two walks and a hit batsman, I'm your man!

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[WindowSill]

Right, because Heredia is a guy thats gonna be making 55 appearances this year...I mean really, how much of an impact do you actually think theyll have on this team? Im still not concerned with the bullpen.


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[Bulldogcakes]

Pedro-100 pitch pitcher
Glavine 39 years old
Trachsel-35 years old
Zambrano-Coming off elbow injury

You'll need a bullpen, Sill.

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[WindowSill]

I know...but Im not at all worried about it. They have solid guys in there and waiting to be called up from the minors...I personally think everyone is overreacting about how bad they may or may not be...


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[ChickenHawk]

The Mets officially get the award for Biggest Offseason In Baseball.

They hired a new manager from the Yankees in Willie Randolph.
Got one of the biggest names in pitching with Pedro.
Got the absolute premiere free agent in baseball with Beltran.
They scooped up Miguel Cairo, who had a pretty good season with the Yankees last year.
And there's still talks of Delgado.

The Mets have gone from a last place team to what could potentially develop into a playoff team.

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[Bulldogcakes]

The Mets officially get the award for Biggest Offseason In Baseball.

They hired a new manager from the Yankees in Willie Randolph.
Got one of the biggest names in pitching with Pedro.
Got the absolute premiere free agent in baseball with Beltran.
They scooped up Miguel Cairo, who had a pretty good season with the Yankees last year.
And there's still talks of Delgado.

Yanks
Signed Carl Pavano
Signed Jarrod Wright
Traded For Randy Johnson
Signed Tony Womack
Re-signed Tino Martinez
Traded for Felix Rodriguez

Yanks have had a pretty good off-season too. I'm happy.

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[BoondockSaint]

Minaya and Wilpon to meet with Delgado this week. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1963769) If this means they forget about Sosa, I'm all for it.

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[BoondockSaint]

Randy Johnson is a six foot ten inch barrel of fun. Article and video. (http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstoriesny_story_010111516.html) Way to get the media on your side.

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[Davios]

If I'm Randy I react exactly the same if not worse. They were just talking on the Fan about how this douchebag came running from like a block away towards Randy in order to catch a shot. If I'm Randy and I just get to New York and some maniac is running at me yeah I'm going to be a little on edge and pissed off.

[Iamnotatool]

Met's are gonna win the World Series this year, you bitches.

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[WindowSill]

Wow...if Minaya goes 3 for 3 with Pedro, Beltran, and Delgado thatd be awesome. If he could also trade Piazza hed win executive of the year for sure...


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[Walrus622]

Can they finish .500 before we even put them in the playoff's let alone winning the Yankee invitational?

[Fallon]

Randy is on Letterman Tuesday. Should be fun.

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Randy is on Letterman Tuesday. Should be fun.


Is letterman allowed to talk back to him? He's made it clear that cameramen can not.

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Randy Johnson, even before formally signing with the Yankees, has already had a run-in with the press. "Get out of my face," yelled Johnson, reaching out to block a TV cameraman as he left his New York hotel.


This seals it, Randy Johnson is done for. He already is fighting with the NY press. They will go for blood now and his whole season will be a cluster-fuck.

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[Iamnotatool]

Welcome to NY you fuckin ostrich.


Waaahhhhh. Big fucking baby.

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[BoondockSaint]

"Regarding the unfortunate incident that happened this morning as I was on my way to take a physical, I hope that everyone will understand that the past few days have been a bit overwhelming and I wish I had handled the situation differently," Johnson said. "I am very sorry it happened."


Overwhelming? Wait until opening night and he lays an egg against the Red Sox.

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[Walrus622]

I think he laid down the law for people who get in his face right off the bat. Welcome to NY big guy, any chance we can get him together with a camera holding sid rosenberg.



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[WindowSill]

Nice...only unbiased opinions here...


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[Walrus622]

Sill, if you werent my fiance I would slap you around like a channel 2 camera man.(jus playin)

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[Bulldogcakes]

Nice...only unbiased opinions here..

SILL YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS. I'm a Yankee fan,
you have yet ONE positive word about the Yanks in
ANY context, and YOU'RE talking about BIAS!
Bah hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Oh I cant breathe BAAHAaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHhaahha
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BTW So you are female. That explains everything!


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[Bulldogcakes]

I think he laid down the law for people who get in his face right off the bat. Welcome to NY big guy, any chance we can get him together with a camera holding sid rosenberg.

I love it when the pushy NY press types gets treated like the assholes they are. I like Randy even more now. A little piss and vinegar. Fuck that pushy prick.

PRESS RULE #1-The press can dish it out, but cant take it
They start crying like little girls the minute someone with a sack tells them to fuck off. GO RANDY GO!!!

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[WindowSill]

Im not female...what can I say, Walrus just wears the pants...




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[Bulldogcakes]

"Regarding the unfortunate incident that happened this morning as I was on my way to take a physical, I hope that everyone will understand that the past few days have been a bit overwhelming and I wish I had handled the situation differently," Johnson said. "I am very sorry it happened."


Overwhelming? Wait until opening night and he lays an egg against the Red Sox.

This guy has pitched brilliantly in some of the biggest spots imaginable. In 95, he practically single-handedly beat the Yanks, and even came in to close the final game. Something tells me Mr Boonie wouldn't put his money where his mouth is.


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[Bulldogcakes]

Im not female...what can I say, Walrus just wears the pants...

What are you saying, you're a "fiancee" like Fez's, in Niagra Falls Ontario Canada?

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[Walrus622]

Dog you hit it on the head, play ball.
( I think sill's a dude, if any chick could talk sport's like that she would she would be catching for the mets)

A man never stands as tall as when he kneel's to help a child.

[Bulldogcakes]

By the way, I think I posted this already, but congrats to you Metsies. I know things have been down for you guys for a while, and now you have something to look foward to. I hope you get Delgado. If you do, I say you're the faves in the NL east. And maybe you guys will be the ones who FINALLY beat the Bravos for the division. Fuckin Braves, division every year, then dick in the playoffs. Boring.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Dog you hit it on the head, play ball.
( I think sill's a dude, if any chick could talk sport's like that she would she would be catching for the mets)

AGAIN with the gay reference. Look I'm cool w/that. Where are you two guys getting married? Is it still legal in Boston? I thought I read it was overturned or something.
BTW Gay Marriage. I totally support it, but it will ruin the gay community. Marriage tends to make people more conservative. Can you picture a nation filled with gay republicans? Can you imagine Gay couples complaining about taxes and immigration? Uggh.

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[Walrus622]

No, my woman are usually more like Mrs. Paul O.

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[BoondockSaint]

This guy has pitched brilliantly in some of the biggest spots imaginable. In 95, he practically single-handedly beat the Yanks, and even came in to close the final game. Something tells me Mr Boonie wouldn't put his money where his mouth is.


What I meant was, if he can't handle the last few days what the hell is gonna happen if he blows a big game and the media is all over him? He's pitched in Seattle and Arizona, not exactly the media circus that's around here. And I'm not sure what I'm betting you on but I'm in for a kagillion dollars.

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[Walrus622]

He already fought a cameraman for crysake, you think you have seen schilling bleed?! Hope you enjoyed it cos' it is over!

"Greatest player I ever seen, Dimaggio (Joseph Paul)." Ted Williams- 1991

[BoondockSaint]

He already fought a cameraman for crysake, you think you have seen schilling bleed?! Hope you enjoyed it cos' it is over!


What does that even mean?

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[Walrus622]

Dont talk back!(you stole my thunder) That picture rules.

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[Davios]

I couldn't be happier with Randy's let me pitch and leave me alone attitude. In today's age of self-absorbed athletes :cough Schilling cough: who crave nothing but attention and cameras clicking away it's pretty refreshing in my opinion. And he's going to lay an egg why? Because the Mighty Media is going to impact his fragile weak mind to the point of causing him to lose all of his pitching ability? You're right, after all it's not like this guy isn't some veteran hall of famer he's a rookie just getting acquanted with the game after all. You can continue being a homer about your Metropolitans, that doesn't bug me. Please, however refrain from throwing all logic out the window.

Overwhelming? Wait until opening night and he lays an egg against the Red Sox.


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[HBox]

If anything is gonna fuck up Randy Johnson, it's gonna be his cartilage-free knee or his creaky back, not the media. That was some hilarious video. This guys a fucking dick, just the kind of guy I want going to the mound in Game 7. My favorite part wasn't "Don't talk back to me" its the last thing he said, "Or you'll see what I'm like."

EDIT:Correction, my favorite part wasn't the last line, it was the long silence between "Don't talk back to me" and "Or you'll see what I'm like." My second favorite part was the sheepish "Welcome to New York" the cameraguy spouted out as Johnson walked away. He didn't say much when Randy was in his face.



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[BoondockSaint]

Camera baaaaaaaaaaad!
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[BoondockSaint]

You're right, after all it's not like this guy isn't some veteran hall of famer he's a rookie just getting acquanted with the game after all.


No but that is exactly why he should have had a better reaction yesterday. He's been in that situation before.

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[A.J.]

With that trimmed-down mullet he looks a lot like Dale Earnhardt.

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[Davios]

You're right, after all it's not like this guy isn't some veteran hall of famer he's a rookie just getting acquanted with the game after all.


No but that is exactly why he should have had a better reaction yesterday. He's been in that situation before.

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Right well your original reaction to this whole situation of how Randy is going to lay an egg opening day really had no relevance to him getting in some camera man's face. Like somehow his relationship with the media was going deteriorate him as a player. You as a Mets fan should know about a guy named Willie Mays who wasn't much kinder towards any reporters or writers. How about Ted Williams, ever heard his name mentioned as on of the all time greatest players ever? What was his relationship with the media like? The fact that a player has experienced the media before doesn't change his opinion or perception of them. Did Ted Williams bat .072 because his relationship with the media was something like mine between rush hour traffic?

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[A.J.]

Wasn't Steve Carlton famous for hating the press/not giving interviews?

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[BoondockSaint]

Right well your original reaction to this whole situation of how Randy is going to lay an egg opening day really had no relevance to him getting in some camera man's face.


What I meant was if he doesn't like one camera on him what is his reaction going to be if he has a rough outing against the Red Sox and the fans boo him off the mound and there are 20 cameras and 50 reporters waiting for him, asking him what's wrong. I don't think it will effect his pitching, he should win the Cy Young. But I remember the Mets beating him up in a playoff game in 99, but Arizona's media isn't NY's. So, who knows? We'll find out soon enough. But you can't say you liked the way he reacted yesterday.

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[Crippler]

Wasn't Steve Carlton famous for hating the press/not giving interviews?
I didn't grow up as a Phils fan, so you may be right, but I remember him more as a loner & weirdo than a jerk. I can just imagine his preseason rituals being dissected by the modern day SportsCenter, etc. The guy used to workout in a vat of uncooked rice...yeah, today's sports journalists might have let that go with a polite, "Steve really doesn't want to talk about his workout habits."


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[BoondockSaint]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Carlton (http://)



Carlton slumped in 1973, losing 20 games. The media's open questioning of his unusual training techniques led to an acrimonious relationship between them and Carlton, and he severed all ties with the media, refusing to answer press questions for the rest of his career.


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[Iamnotatool]

Dallas newspaper reported today that the Rangers expect Carlos Delgado to sign w/ the
Mets for $12-14m, since TEX cant go more than $10M. And Sosa said he's
waive his 2006 option and approve a deal to the Mets for Floyd, since the
Cubs want Maggs badly.




Opening Day Lineup:

Matsui, Reyes, Beltran, Piazza, Delgado, Sosa, Wright, Cameron, Pedro

R U SHITTIN ME???


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[WindowSill]

Id prefer they didnt get Sosa. Hes the better player than Floyd, but I dont want to have what the Yankees have with their lineup. We need got the home run and RBI guys. Now we need guys to get on base...


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[BoondockSaint]

Yeah, I want nothing to do with Sosa especially if we get Delgado. He's over the hill and can't juice up anymore. And he has always hit like shit in Shea.

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[Iamnotatool]

I would tend to agree, but Sosa is a HELL of a lot more durable than Floys. Plus if he waives his option year, he'll be playing for a contract, which is always good.

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[Davios]

In my opinion the most likely scenario is that the Mets sign Olerud or trade for Minky from Boston and then trade for Sammy Sosa. Yes the Mets are going to have a good portion more to spend but I just don't see them now going on to picking up Delgado. In order to obtain Carlos he's probably going to have to be willing to give a hefty discount to New York and go down from his asking price. I think in the end he might very well end up with Florida once it becomes evident the Mets probably won't hand this guy 15-17 mil a year.


Delgado may be asking too much (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2005/01/11/a7c_marlins_0111.html)

[WindowSill]

12-14 million a year....

Im positive the Mets will get him over Baltimore or Texas or whoever else wants him...


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[ChickenHawk]

Wow... talk about getting ahead of yourself Tool...

Sosa and Delgado are NOT happening man. Pedro and Beltran are more than enough blockbuster signings for one off-season. Delgado at this point is a stretch. Sosa is out of the picture.

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[Davios]

Wow... talk about getting ahead of yourself Tool...

Sosa and Delgado are NOT happening man. Pedro and Beltran are more than enough blockbuster signings for one off-season. Delgado at this point is a stretch. Sosa is out of the picture.

I hoenstly believe Sosa's going to end up a Met and Delgado ending up with either Baltimore or Florida.

[Iamnotatool]

Hawk, I didnt say it wsa gonne happen, I merely read it.


I'd muchmuchmuchMUCHMUCHMUCH rather get the guy who I can't spell his name from Boston, Mentkevitch, and forget Delgado.

Sosa I personally cannot stand, but he is much more durable than Floyd. Plus, Floyd got a little mouthy last year, when he's played about half the games since signing his deal w/ the mets. I think he should prolly just shut up and play.

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[TheGameHHH]

Tool......you're calling a guy who missed time last season for sneezing durable?

And honestly, I do think the Mets made the right moves this offseason. But it still won't stop them from going .500. How pumped were all of you when Piazza arrived?

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[Bulldogcakes]

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But I remember the Mets beating him up in a playoff game in 99

Oddly enough, that team OWNED him. He killed the rest of the league, and if I remember correctly, gave up 7 runs to the Mets in one game, and lost all the others with them that year.
This, of course, means absolutely nothing. Dont draw grand conclusions about a player just because your team did well (in one year) against him. The KANSAS CITY ROYALS owned Mariano Rivera at his peak 96-2000. Slappy little team and nothing on the line. Mo went on to lead the Yanks to 4 rings.

So, who knows? We'll find out soon enough. But you can't say you liked the way he reacted yesterday.

I loved it.

1) Duke Castiglione, who no one ever heard of before yesterday (Nobody watches NY1) Wins the JIM ROME AWARD for obnoxious sports reporter. If you watched the press conference, Turns out they ABUSHED Randy. They jumped out from behind some bushes. He asked them not to take pictures. They shot numerous flashes in his eyes. Then Duke asked him for an interview (You know, since he approached him in the proper manner) and he said "No". THEN the cameras start rolling, and thats what everybody saw.

2) The fucking press MAKES THEIR LIVING ripping people to shreds. Then when someone stands up to them and says "Fuck you I'm not gonna put up with it" They cry foul. If you're gonna dish it out, take it. Dont be so thin skinned when someone tell you to take a hike if you run people out of town every day of the week.

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[Iamnotatool]

Tool......you're calling a guy who missed time last season for sneezing durable?


No. I'm calling him MORE durable than Cliff Floyd. My grandmother is more durable than Cliff Floyd is, and she's 139 years old and has rickity knees, arthritis, and bones made of chalk.

Sosa had a horrible, HORRIBLe year last year, yet still had 30+ bombs and 80-90 RBI. That right there is what Clilff Floyd calls a GREAT year. See my point?

Still, I'd rather start the year with super K Cameron in right, Mantkayvicch at first, and the rest status quo. Let Victor Diaz play right while Super K fixes his masterbatory injured hand.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Sosa's Dominican, Pedro's Dominican, Beltran and Delgado are Puerto Rican. There's about 800,000 Dominicans and 1 million Puerto Ricans in NY. Oh, Minaya's Dominican too. It's as much about marketing and building a future fan base as anything else.

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[BoondockSaint]

This, of course, means absolutely nothing. Dont draw grand conclusions about a player just because your team did well (in one year) against him.


My point was that he has been bad in big games before but he was in Arizona. If he does that this year against the Sox and then pulls some "I'm not talking to the media" thing, he will get killed in this town.


And if he was so right in his reaction yesterday, why did he apoligize like 5 times during his press conferance?

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[Bulldogcakes]

Because he had to. I'm sure the Yanks, he and everyone else wanted to put that behind them. Oh, except for Duke, who stood up, introduced himself as the guy "He met yesterday" and asked his stupid question. Duke. Guess what. YOU'RE not the story. Nobody gives a fuck about you.
Boonie, I actually agree that could have/should have been handled better. But there's TWO sides to every story. That was like the Rodney King video. When you first saw it, the cops looked like animals. When you saw the whole tape, it was still pretty rough, but more understandable.

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[Bulldogcakes]

My point was that he has been bad in big games before but he was in Arizona.

Boonie, what the fuck are you talking about? He was GREAT with the Mariners, in big spots. In the 95 playoffs, He beat the Yanks in his start AND came in relief to close them out in game 5. Boonie get your facts straight, please.

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[BoondockSaint]

Boonie, what the fuck are you talking about? He was GREAT with the Mariners, in big spots. In the 95 playoffs, He beat the Yanks in his start AND came in relief to close them out in game 5. Boonie get your facts straight, please.


WTF? I didn't say he's never pitched well in a bad game. In fact he's been overwhemingly good. But some people were acting like he's NEVER pitched bad in a big game when in fact he has and he was not creamed in the papers and on the radio over it but now he will be especially if he cops an attitude. What don't you understand?

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[Bulldogcakes]

But some people were acting like he's NEVER pitched bad in a big game when in fact he has

Regular season games against a .500 Met team aren't "big games". Postseason games are. And he's been great, as you and I both said. At 41 (BTW his new #) it remains to be seen how much longer he can keep it up. But based on last year (at 40, w/bad back+knee) He pitched a perfect game, and was a Cy Young finalist on an awful team. I cant wait to see him pitch. I cant wait to beat the living piss out of the Bosox this year, who I think are way down pitching wise.

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[BoondockSaint]

Regular season games against a .500 Met team aren't "big games".


Not just against the Mets in regular season games.
Postseason stats:
1997 Seattle Mariners 0 2 5.54
2002 Arizona Diamondbacks 0 1 7.50

Not exactly lights out those postseasons either. But yeah, he probably will win the Cy Young, but he's not unbeatable.

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[ChickenHawk]

Would anyone happen to know where I could find a video of Johnson putting his hand over the camera? I'd like to see that.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Article and video. (http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstoriesny_story_010111516.html)

Boonie already posted this, about 2-3 pages ago on this thread.

Boonie, Good stats on RJ. I didn't watch either of those series, so I didn't know about them. I'm still thrilled to have him, and can't wait for the season to start.

BTW The Texas Rangers are saying your Metsies are the front-runners for Delgado. If you get him, I think you're the faves in the NL east

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[WindowSill]

Sosa and Delgado are NOT happening man. Pedro and Beltran are more than enough blockbuster signings for one off-season.


Says the Yankee fan whos team just last year went and got ARod AND Sheffield AND Brown AND Vasquez...


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Farewell DLowe. Thanks and good luck in LA (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpcDBuM2RlBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=ap-dodgers-lowe&prov=ap&type=lgns)

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BTW The Texas Rangers are saying your Metsies are the front-runners for Delgado. If you get him, I think you're the faves in the NL east


I won't beleive that until we are 10 games up with 9 games left. And even then I'll worry.

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[WindowSill]

Raul Mondesi still getting work... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1967167)


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[Bulldogcakes]

Raul Mondesi still getting work... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1967167)

As a Yankee fan, I know how that story ends.
Why dont they pick up Ruben Rivera while they're at it. Just lock up your gloves, though.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Attn Sill, Tool, etc
Cameron wants out (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmside124112386jan12,0,6495025.story?coll=ny-mets-print)

Apparently Cameron's changed his mind about moving to left. Sucks, because they would have had a GREAT defensive outfield, which in today's game is more important than ever.

If the Mets are to add Carlos Delgado to their winter renovation, they'd prefer to clear some salary.


There is an upside. Could help them get Delgado. Need an outfielder to come back in a trade, unless you go w/kids (Diaz etc)

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[BoondockSaint]

There is an upside. Could help them get Delgado. Need an outfielder to come back in a trade, unless you go w/kids (Diaz etc)


The Post (http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/38552.htm) says it may be Eric Byrnes. I'd do that in a second.

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[WindowSill]

Id do it for Byrnes in a second as well. Cameron is very good defensively but Im not high on him at all offensively. Byrnes would be good in that lineup not being that big homerun hitter like just about everyone else in the lineup is.


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I hope it isn't Cameron that gets traded to the Cubs for Sosa, if the Mets still want Sammy.

Given Cameron's performance last year, it would be like trading Sosa for...Sosa.

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[Snoogans]

if the mets get eric byrnes, if the starters can stay even half decent, you guys will be very tough, especially in that notoriously dominating NL East

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[MHasegawa]

If this trade happens and we get stuck with Cameron, I'm not watching 1 game this whole year.


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[BoondockSaint]

Hmmm...

Reyes
Matsui
Beltran
Delgado
Piazza
Wright
Floyd
Byrnes

Not bad.

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[WindowSill]

Im thinkin more

Reyes
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Beltran
Delgado
Piazza
Wright
Floyd
Matsui

Byrnes has already proven himself, Matsui has yet to do so. And from we saw last year, I dont think he has done anything to earn the 2 spot. If that doesnt work out, you can always try Wright in the 2 hole, or even moving Beltran into the 2 hole and moving the entire lineup up...


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I just like the fact of three fast switch hitters at the top of the line up.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Id do it for Byrnes in a second as well. Cameron is very good defensively but Im not high on him at all offensively

Amen. They need to get away from these high strikeout guys. Delgado has a career OBP of .392, and has had years WAY over .400.

And Byrnes is a real good player. Scrappy guy. Met fans will love him.

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[HBox]

I hope for the Mets sake that Byrnes has matured a bit from that playoff game two years ago with the Red Sox when he was coming home, collided with Varitek, missed the plate while the ball went flying, and instead of touching the plate, or walking to the dugout if he actually did think he touched the plate, he decided to go over and gets in Varitek's face allowing him the easy tag and, of course, blowing the crucial run that would have turned out to win the game and the series for the A's.

That's the first and last thing I always think about when I see this guy.



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[WindowSill]

Reyes - .307 career OBP
Byrnes - .336 OBP
Beltran - 353 OBP
Delgado - 392 obp
Piazza - 385 obp
Wright - 332 obp
Floyd - 362 obp
Matsui - 331 obp

Looks good...


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[Bulldogcakes]

Best lineup they've had in years, maybe ever.

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[WindowSill]

Yeah but it is the Mets...it might look good, but Im not counting my chickens till at least the All Star break...


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[Bulldogcakes]

Shea's a tough park to hit in, so some of these guys might not do their lifetime avg's, but I think Reyes and Wright are on the way up. Matsui should be better w/a year under his belt (My Matsui was). Most years you'll have a few guys overachieve, a few under. If you have enough overall talent, it should all even out.

Plus I dont like what the Braves did. They lost two important pitchers (Wright/Ortiz) and replaced them with Smoltz and a reliever (Kolb). Smoltz became a reliever because of arm problems. He's cleared to start again, but why fuck w/ a good thing. He's one of the best closers in Baseball. Can effect more games that way. And the reliever they got from Milwaukee was a one year. . . . make that 1/2 year wonder. Great in 1st half, lousy in second. And strikes out NOBODY, which means if he's a little off, its batting practice.

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[WindowSill]

They also got Hudson....I take Hudson and Smoltz over Ortiz and Wright anyday, especially if I got a guy like Kolb to replace Smoltz in the pen...


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[Bulldogcakes]

Ooops! Forgot about Hudson. He should be good for them. He does have some sort of Hip problem, which has bothered him the last 2 years straight. But he's a top pitcher.

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[Snoogans]

smoltz didnt move to the pen cause of arm trouble. he had tommy john sugurgy, and came back as a starter. he moved to the pen cause at the time they didnt have a closer, and had 6 starters, and smoltz threw the hardest and is a team player.
alot of pitchers now had tommy john surgury, its not as big a risk as most people think, in fact you usually throw harder after cause its a stronger tendon.

the braves will be tough, but with this lineup, the mets SHOULD win the east, even without byrnes

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WFAN's Ed Coleman just announced that Mike Cameron and Omar Minaya patched things up. Cameron no longer wants to be traded.
Maybe a ploy. When a player demands a trade, his value goes down.

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[WindowSill]

Eh, I think Cameron is gonna stay. Would I rather have Byrnes? Absolutely. But I have no problem with Cameron so its just as well...


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[WindowSill]

Oakland send trade proposal to the Mets (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=fanball-athleticsbyrnescamer&prov=fanball&type=lgns)

If thats true, Minaya would be crazy to turn down both Byrnes and Bradford for a guy that isnt all that thrilled about switching positions and is gonna miss the first month of the season anyway...


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If the mets want bullpen help, the last place they should look is Oakland. I'm still gonna puke if this deal happens...

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[Bulldogcakes]

Good link Sill. When a team feels the need to so publicly announce that they are OK with a player, its seems weird. Chances are they are talking to Oakland, and they (Oakland) are dragging their feet about something, and the Mets think Beane figures "He said he wants out, why should I give up this much". Then the Mets announce with Cameron there "Everythings fine" Meanwhile, a deals on the table. He'll be traded.
nice that they get some bullpen help too.
Chad Bradford #'s (http://bigleaguers.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/6061/)

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Cameron has a limited no trade clause that includes Oakland. I know one of the reasons he signed with the Mets was because he wanted to be on the east coast. There was a thing in the paper today that said they were also looking into trading him to Baltimore for Jay Gibbons.

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[HBox]

A-Rod rips Schilling. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6854097/)

"To me it was just odd, because I mean we beat him a couple of times during the year and he was crying on the bench," Rodriguez said of Schilling. "And then he lost Game 1 and he wouldn't talk or anything. And obviously, he wins Game 6 and then he's still talking 'till today. So it's just something we as players have been accustomed to. But it's something I'm not worried about."

Nice. Now just learn how to hit in Games 4-7, and you'll be alright.



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[Bulldogcakes]

H-Box, please. Schilling hasn't shut his mouth since 1999, if ever. Schilling has been going around saying A-Rod isn't a "true Yankee", A-Rod has "no class", A-Rod's not a "winner", Yanks "will never win w/him on team", etc. So he (A-Rod) responds one time, in fairly tame language (compared to what Schilling said about him) and you make him the bad guy.

Baseball wasn't a big enough forum for big mouth Schilling, so he felt the need to campaign w/G.W. Bush.



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Though I don't think A-rod is the right person to speak regarding this topic, he certainly does have a point. Schilling acted like a little bitch when he was getting the shit kicked out of him. But the bottom line is Schilling won, and when you're a winner you can talk all the shit you want because you're the best.

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Schilling vs Johnson opening day. I cant fuckin wait.


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[Kevin]

he was jumping around pretty good in that WS celabration for a guy who could barley walk and needed major surgury to fix a nerve. Schilling is an attention WHORE. he went as far as wearing all the pats opponent jerseys. last week he had a Colts jersey. Now he has a rothsliberger jersy. just so people can say ooohhhhhhh look what he is doing. Enough with that fat basterd. I hope RJ finaly shuts him up opening day. But knowing him. He will fake another injury or say the ankle is still not healed.

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[HBox]

I was completely serious in everything I wrote. I like that he said it. Schilling is a grandstanding asshole who is getting way too much credit for the World Series championship, and he has no fucking business deciding who is a true Yankee. I wouldn't even be surprised if that wasn't blood on his sock, and he just squirted some red food coloring on the sock before the game just so he could bask in the grand New England circle jerk that followed the championship.

That being said, A-Rod, along with the rest of the batters, didn't do shit after Game 3. So he'd better back this up on the field in October.



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Ya No Yankee can say shit this year. When they win then they can talk.

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[Bulldogcakes]

and he has no fucking business deciding who is a true Yankee.

Amen. Sorry, I misunderstood your post.

That being said, A-Rod, along with the rest of the batters, didn't do shit after Game 3. So he'd better back this up on the field in October.

True. And A-Rod didn't make any friends on either side with his little slap move.

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[Kevin]

Tom Hicks is at it again.. They said that the Rangers have offer Delgado alot more then anyone has. How about overpaying for some SP for a change. Lets see if Omar's "Latin" connection works now.

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[WindowSill]

As much as i want Delgado, I dont see any point in starting a bidding war with Texas and Florida for this guy. Dont overpay him just because another team offered him more money...


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[BoondockSaint]

Hey Sill, what do you think of the Cameron for Jay Gibbons trade? It's not as good as the one for Byrnes but Cameron hasn't blocked Baltimore from what I've read.

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i would drive camron to balt if i can get gibbons for him.

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[WindowSill]

I do like Gibbons. Hit 23 homers and drove in 100 a year ago before hitting 10 and driving in 47. The average is definitely a turn off as he has a .256 career BA. And he never steals either. If they do get him, they should definitely get someone like Todd Williams or John Parrish to help out in the pen in addition...


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[BoondockSaint]

He was hurt last year, only played in 97 games, so that explains the 10HRs. But the .256 avg may be low but you're not going to get much higher on a good year anyway. He can also fill in at 1st base. He only made 3mil last year, so you take some of the difference between him and Cameron and give it to Delgado. I think you have to think about it even without the releiver thrown in.

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[WindowSill]

The salary relief would be helpful. And you would be dumping a guy who doesnt wanna be here, and would miss the first month anyway. However before I even consider this move, I try really hard to make the Byrnes move go through...Oakland seems to want to do it. Try to make Mike want to do it as well. If not, its always good to have a Jay Gibbons type option to fall back on...


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[ADF]

Gibbons would hit .219 with 19 homers in Queens... in a good year.

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[Kevin]

He is better then you give him credit for ADF

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[ADF]

Cameron is as good or better than Gibbons in every stat, plus he plays defense.



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[Kevin]

not last year he didn't

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[WindowSill]

Oh yeah, cause a .978 fielding pct for a centerfielder is terrible...


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he dropped alot of flyballs including game changers.

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[WindowSill]

Nevertheless, he better than the majority of outfielders in the league and a 2 time gold glover...


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oh yea he is a great glove. Maybe even better then Beltran. All im saying is he had an off year last year.

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[ADF]

And his off year is better than Gibbons' best year.

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[WindowSill]

Look, you cant deny that Cameron is better than Gibbons, but there are other factors like injuries, money, and additional players that could make it work. I really doubt that Minaya would just give up Cameron straight up for Gibbons...


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[Iamnotatool]

Oh yeah, cause a .978 fielding pct for a centerfielder is terrible...


Yep, it's fucking brutal. Cameron sucked last year, was a total me player, and collected garbage homers when noone cared. Now he wants a trade? Fuck him, trade him to Baltimore where he'll never make postseason. Take Gibbons back, or a bag of hardballs, I don't care, I'm done with Super K Mike Cameron.

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[Crippler]

I think trading Cameron to Baltimore is brilliant if you get someone to go in the pen, along with Gibbons.

Gibbons' numbers will suffer in Shea, but I think he's the type of player Mets fans will wind up loving anyway. And Cameron's HRs when the team is up (or down) by 8 runs that no one cares about will increase, the smaller outfield will make him look like a Gold Glover again, and he gets the ego stroke of staying in CF. Plus, there's no worries about vacation planning or anything like that...he'll get to pack up his things on September 30th every year.

I think that if the Mets want to change their image of "the same old Mets," taking care of potential troublemakers like Cameron is a good place to start. You already got Leiter out of town (doesn't matter if it wasn't your choice), Johnny Franco will hopefully not be doing anything more than emptying garbage cans in the clubhouse, so the "commitee" is gone. Now start fresh & cut any additional problems.

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[Kevin]

Gibbons was turning into a very nice young player before he got hit with nagging injuries. Like tool said 978 is awful for a CF. You do not get that many chances a game. 978 is good for an INF but not an OF. A good CF should have at least a 990.

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[WindowSill]

Gibbons numbers in Right the last 2 years are .984 and .983...in right....not center....


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[Bulldogcakes]

Attn Mets fans.
Try to hold back the tears (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1973717)

I'm amazed anyone gave him a job. Especially in the NL

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700k for a done John Franco. This is a great country.

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Report: Mets opt for 1B Mientkiewicz

January 26, 2005

BRISTOL, Connecticut (Ticker) - The New York Mets, spurned by free agent slugger Carlos Delgado, reportedly have wasted little time addressing their hole at first base.

According to an ESPN report, the Mets and Boston Red Sox have agreed on a deal that would send slick-fielding Doug Mientkiewicz to New York for a Class A player and cash.

Less than 24 hours after Delgado opted to sign with the Florida Marlins, the Mets acquired a player that is solid but unspectacular.

The 30-year-old Mientkiewicz had a rough 2004 campaign, getting dealt to Boston at the non-waiver trade deadline. He batted .215 with a homer and 10 RBI in 49 games for the world champion Red Sox after hitting .246 with five homers and 25 RBI in 78 games with the Minnesota Twins.

A career .272 hitter with 44 homers and 276 RBI in 692 games over seven years with Minnesota and Boston, Mientkiewicz was slated to split time in Boston - a scenario that did not appeal to him.

Mientkiewicz further alienated Boston fans by saying he was going to hold on to the ball that represented the final out of the World Series.
Management was hoping to put the ball on display and what initially began as a lighthearted story grew more and more serious.

The Mets had been hoping to add Delgado in what already has been an active offseason. Mientkiewicz does give
the team a much-needed lefthanded bat and the 2001 Gold Glove Award winner should solidify a young infield that
will undergo a bit of change in 2005.

The departure of Mientkiewicz leaves Kevin Millar as Boston's starting first baseman.

I don't like this. The whole point of trading Nomar was to improve the defense. Mientkiewicz brought that -- he gave the Sox a true first baseman. His bat may not have been as good as Millar's but I'll take his defense anyday. Now the Sox are back to where they were last year at first: Millar, with Ortiz and McCarty as the backups.

I hope Theo knows what the fuck he's doing.

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The Sox were trying to deal either Doug or Millar. Doug had to be a dick about the ball and pissed off management, so he's gone.

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The Mets and Boston Red Sox completed a deal Wednesday that sends slick-fielding Doug Mientkiewicz and cash to New York for minor league prospect Ian Bladergroen.

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[Iamnotatool]

Ian Bladergroen.


Osn't he the new OC of the NYJ

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[Bulldogcakes]

Good for the Mets. He hit .300 in 2001 and 2003. Career .272. Great glove. The Mets have only won twice, in 69 and 86, and both teams were pitching and defense teams. They tried to do it with hitting in 2003, and it was a disaster. Shea's a tough hitter's park. Delgado, who was much better box office, could easily have been a flop in Shea/NL. They now have a team that could surprise everyone. Still hope they do Byrnes/Cameron.

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[Snoogans]

too bad you bitches are still tryin to get Sosa

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[walking joint]

it looks like Sosa is going to the Orioles for prospects and Hariston Jr

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Thanks to Mikey. Joint wins in the sosa announcement race.

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[Snoogans]

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[Kevin]

http://www.freewebtown.com/baseballstars/sosa3.jpg

TO


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Are you sure Snoogs? Beacuse....... I can't tell the difference. :quest:

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I was pulling for you Scoop!

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[TheMojoPin]

EEEEEET'S NOT SO REEEEEEEAL!!! (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/chc/news/chc_news.jsp?ymd=20050128&content_id=936733&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp)

I just want him gone, dammit! That bitch move during the last game last season was just pathetic. But the ORIOLES?!? Ech.

Oh, and this COULD ahve gone in the Cubs' thread, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Bitches.

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[Kevin]

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You fucking scavenger hunting squirrels. You Ruin everything.

[WindowSill]

And all for the low low price of Jerry Hairston Jr. and 2 prospects....


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[TheMojoPin]

Pathetic.

Officially, there's no deal...but this sounds exactly like the kind of fuck-up the Cubs would go for.

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[Bulldogcakes]

And all for the low low price of Jerry Hairston Jr. and 2 prospects....

And a lovely parting gift from Balco Labs.

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[Kevin]

What do you expect Mojo? You could not give this guy away. Be happy that you got anything for him.

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You fucking scavenger hunting squirrels. You Ruin everything.

[Snoogans]

trade him for piazza

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[TheMojoPin]

Actually, I'm feeling better about this.

The Cubs might just have the most solid infield in the NL, if not all of baseball.

And hey, it's their pick of prospects. Could be worse. Could have been for a Met.

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[Kevin]

Actually, I'm feeling better about this.

The Cubs might just have the most solid infield in the NL, if not all of baseball.

And hey, it's their pick of prospects. Could be worse. Could have been for a Met.


Slow down there Mojo. Its no where near the Marlins INF Of Lowell Gonzalez Castillo Delgdo.

Or the Yankee INF

Or the Sox INF

Also You HAVE to now take a Flyer on Ordonez. You now have Lost Alou and Sosa and Your OF is now God Awful. I woulda at least asked for Gibbons back also.

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[TheMojoPin]

I didn't say "best." I said "solid." It's not flashy, but they've got solid starters AND backup in the infield. They're basically set in those positions if ANYONE is injured, which is something they desperately needed. The Cubs got killed by WAY too much sloppy infielding during the end of last season.

The OF isn't as dire as you make it out to be. Sosa and Alou were good, but they weren't the end-all-be-all when it comes to outfielders. When they were out, the positions were covered without any trouble.

You're right about the Marlins, though. They're gonna be beast. They're basically this year's Cardinals.

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[Bulldogcakes]

You're right about the Marlins, though. They're gonna be beast. They're basically this year's Cardinals.

Marlins-
Replaced Pavano w/Al Lieter
Replaced Benitez w/Mota
Added DelGado

2 steps down, 1 step up.
They may win the East, but I cant call them favorites

Braves
Added Smoltz as Starter
Added Hudson as Starter
Added Kolb as Closer

Smoltz has bad elbow, Hudson has a bad hip, Kolb has a bad fastball. If they stay healty, should be good. Possibly favorites

Mets
Replaced Lieter w/Pedro
Added Beltran
Added Mentkiewitz on 1st and Cairo as backup infielder
Look as good as anyone else to me

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And hey, it's their pick of prospects.


Have you seen the Orioles farm system? :(

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[TheMojoPin]

I know, I know...I'm TRYING to be positive...

I was already pissed they didn't sign Alou for one last year because I liked the guy so damn much...this deal just makes that SO much worse.

My eyes, and hopes, are on Aramis Ramirez to help fill that big hitting gap.

And this does leave the Cubs open to some big deals DURING the season...aw, fuck...I WEEP!

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[WindowSill]

Well its not JUST Aramis Ramirez...I mean, you guys got um...Blanco...and um....well yeah I guess besides Hairston that was your one off season aqcusition...in which you replaced Michael Barret, a guy who certainly did not need replacing and all because Greg Maddux is a little bitch and will now probably only have Blanco catch for him like the fucker did in Atlanta...

Losing Alou and Sosa hurts, but they still have some solid players. If they can get Magglio that would help a whole lot. Guys like Lee and Patterson and Nomar are gonna have to step up and take on a lot of the slack...


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[TheMojoPin]

If Maddux keeps pitching like he does, he can have whoever the fuck he wants behind the plate.

The only TRUE upside I see to this is the Cubs have the basis for a semi-longterm contender team...even if they don't make it all the way this season or the next, they have the foundation to keep things going for the next 3-5 years and not fall all the way off again.

They don't have a flashy team of the moment, but they've got a lot of good young players.

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[Kevin]

If Prior and Wood can stay healthy at the same time and Zambrano pitches up to his stuff. Then you have enough to be fine. The A's won divisions with much less offense. You do however need a closer other then awful Hawkins. Id rather have Hawkins from Carnivale Close games then him.

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[WindowSill]

The Cubs are reportedly close to signing Jeromy Burnitz to replace the gaping hole in the outfield...guess this also means the Tigers get Magglio by default...


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[Iamnotatool]

If Prior and Wood can stay healthy at the same time
If the queen had balls...


The Cubbies are good enough to be thisclose to contending every year, just close enough to break Mojo's heart.

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[TheMojoPin]

And really, if they weren't doing that each year, the world wouldn't make any sense.

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[Kevin]

Cubs are rarley good enough to do anything but lose 95 to 100 games. I can count in one hand the amount of times the Cubs were a decent team since i started watching baseball.

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[TheMojoPin]

Whoopdy-shit, hot stuff.

Basically, that's applicable to anyone who's probably 25 or younger and has zero sense of history, and only knows of how they've done in the last 10-15 years.

They haven't had a series in about a damn century, but they've had plenty of seasons as a decent, good and great team, so fuck off.

They've had a long tradition of great players AND great seasons...they just can't seal the deal.

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[Snoogans]

didnt the cubs make the playoffs a couple years ago as well

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[TheMojoPin]

Yeah. It was when the Braves were hot shit, and they got knocked out by them.

They went a couple times in the 80's, too.

The Cubs are what they are. Sometimes they lose, sometimes they win, but the fans still love 'em.

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[Kevin]

With all the Money the Cubs make with their Loyal Fans and other stuff they own Mojo. They should have had much more success then they have had. Its embaressing that they wont spend the money and reward the fans. Why should they have to trade Sosa to compeat for Beltran? Tribune has more money in their back pocket then George has in everything he owns.

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[TheMojoPin]

You're right...but at the same time, a big part of their appeal is that they're NOT a money-machine when it comes to loading up the players.

What you're not understanding is that the fans don't feel we need to be "rewarded." We love the Cubs no matter how well they do. It's for the love of the game, dammit...it's just the kind of team they are and the kind of fans we are.

It's hard to explain to a Yankees fan.

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[Snoogans]

what i wanna know is, how the fuck do those guys keep goin to games everyday without a fuckin job. every afternoon those drunk bastards are there......drunk

if you did that at yankee stadium or fenway youd be down about 3 grand in a week

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[Kevin]

Na man thats Bullshit. Im not saying spend 500million like we do. But the Cubs know that other then Redsox NY Giant fans. Cubs fans are the most Loyal Fans in sports. Cubs know that no matter What. Wriggly is a great place to go. And the fans show up Win or lose. So why spend Money. And thats fucked up. The Redsox found out You have to spend SOME money to spend. They went and got Damon Manny Schilling and others. And low and behold what happend? THEY WON. this curse shit is Garbage. Spend the money build the team and you will win. And BtW Snoogs. there was a Cub manager that went on a tirade and said somthing like that right? About the fans drinking and going to Cub games all day, and not having jobs.

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[Snoogans]

Redsox NY Giant fans


that looks fuckin weird


and yea i like them both. cubs fans arent loyal, im sure by the 3rd inning, they just dont remember they went to a baseball game.

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[TheMojoPin]

The curse thing is more of a joke. The goat comes up, but it's nowehere near the fever pitch of the curse "legend" in Boston. Cubs fans, for the most part, realize that when the Cubs suck, they just suck. There's nothing magic to it.

And how much more money do they need to shell out? We almost made it two seasons ago. We have a real shot of going this year. Having 2-3 super-expensive players last year wouldn't have fixed how the team was just poorly organized in the ending weeks of last year's season.

When the Cubs win, they'll do it their way. And it'll take however long it takes. We're in no hurry.

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[Snoogans]

when i win powerball, im gonna buy the cubs, move them to NJ, blow up a 300 mill payroll, win the series, then sell everything off like the marlins, and not win for another 100 years

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[Crippler]

It's hard to explain to a Yankees fan.
Always with the jabs at Yankees fans, though!

You know, there are some of us who lived through the lean years & were still die-hards. We may have been more boistrous in our displeasure than Cubs fans, but that don't make us bad people.

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[Snoogans]

that means you are a lifetime fan of satan himself, crippler

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[A.J.]

Always with the jabs at Yankees fans, though!

You know, there are some of us who lived through the lean years & were still die-hards.

Unfortunately, folks like you get overshadowed by the pain in the ass bandwagon-jumpers.

I understand if these are younger fans but if you don't know who Mel Hall or Butch Wynegar are then shut the hell up.

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[Iamnotatool]

What you're not understanding is that the fans don't feel we need to be "rewarded." We love the Cubs no matter how well they do. It's for the love of the game, dammit...it's just the kind of team they are and the kind of fans we are.



This is the reason to love the Mojo. I couldn't agree with you more.

And you're right, that little paragraph above is Greek to the Yankee fans.



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[TheMojoPin]

It's hard to explain to a Yankees fan.
Always with the jabs at Yankees fans, though!

Honestly, it wasn't!

I think Cubs fans and Yankees fans have completely different mindsets when it comes to what they expect from their teams (BESIDES the obvious comparison when it comes to World Series rings), and how they expect them to be run...

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[Snoogans]

Butch Wynegar


Wynegar.......BUTCH WYNEGAR

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[Iamnotatool]

Unfortunately, folks like you get overshadowed by the pain in the ass bandwagon-jumpers.


Very true. Crips is one of the rare Yankee fans that has a basic sense of reality, got no problem w/ guys like him.

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[Crippler]

Unfortunately, folks like you get overshadowed by the pain in the ass bandwagon-jumpers.

I understand if these are younger fans but if you don't know who Mel Hall or Butch Wynegar are then shut the hell up.
Agreed...for every true die-hard, there's the guy who looks at monument park & says things like, "That Babe Ruth, old #4, he sure was somethin' wasn't he?" I actually know a Yanks fan who I had almost that exact conversation with a few years ago.

And it's all about Pat Sheridan...the original Paul O'Neill.

This is the reason to love the Mojo. I couldn't agree with you more.

And you're right, that little paragraph above is Greek to the Yankee fans
I love the Mojo, too, but would it kill you to put "most" in front of Yankees fans before an insult?

ps: eat me!

Honestly, it wasn't!
You're right...and you make a good point. I think I'm just shell-shock from the sweeping genaralization & constant barrage of insults. I was a little jumpy...I need to mellow.






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[Crippler]

Very true. Crips is one of the rare Yankee fans that has a basic sense of reality, got no problem w/ guys like him.
Aww!...now I feel guilty about telling you to eat me. I withdraw that "eat me."

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[Snoogans]

dont worry Cripps, ill save mine for saturday

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[Kevin]

Snoogs. Your owners are not Angels either. They have done some very shaddy business things. I think Henry is a very good guy and a great owner. Warner fucked the padras and nearly bankrupt them. But Luccino takes the cake as being one of the most Dirtbag people in sports.George and Henry are good freinds. Henry loves George so does Wilpon. NOBODY likes Luccino. I also like Epstein also. But Luccino is awful. And why are we Satans team? Beacuse we follow the Rules of baseball? We pay every bill Luxuary Tax Rev sharing. And the Yankees are the biggest Charity giving teams in sports. Whos the only team that Matched MLB donation to the Tsunami fund? The Yankees. Yea George does some stupid things like the dental insurance thing. But he is known throught the world as a great humaiterian. He has help a whole lot of worthy causes.

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[Iamnotatool]

. I withdraw that "eat me."


Liar, you could have edited it out and noone would have known your vile comment. Just for that, I'm gonna go poop on the Yankee thread.....again!

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[Crippler]

dont worry Cripps, ill save mine for saturday
I would expect no less...just don't show up with a Red Sox hat and expect to be invited in.

Liar, you could have edited it out and noone would have known your vile comment.
I thought that would be cowardly if someone else had seen it before I got a chance to edit.

Just for that, I'm gonna go poop on the Yankee thread.....again!
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[TheMojoPin]

I think the main difference between the Cubs and other longrunning "legacy" teams is that the Cubs really don't have a "nemesis" team...a rivalry like the Red Sox and Yankees do, or the Yankees and Mets...not even with the White Sox.

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[Snoogans]

Cubs really don't have a "nemesis" team


thats cause the whole league just whips on you

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[badorties]

Cubs really don't have a "nemesis" team



i always thought the cubs and cardinals had a bit of a rivalry ...



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[Iamnotatool]

With free agency there aren't any real "rivalry' games as there were in the past. Except Yanks-Bosox of course. Other than that, the rivalries are whatever 2 teams are playing well. The Cubbies and Astros have had some good games as well as the Cards.

Any combo of Braves/Cubs/Cards/Astros have been quality baseball the last few years. I hope to add the NY Muts to that list this year!

I'd hate to have the Cubs in a best of 5 right now though, with Wood and Prior healthy? Damn.

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[Snoogans]

braves mets is kind of a rovalry even though it kinda died around 2002

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[Iamnotatool]

True, but Armando Benitez nearly singlehandedly killed that rivalry.

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[Kevin]

That died when Kenny Rogers could not find the strike zone.

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Jimmy Fallon kissing Drew Barrymore -- on the field, on live TV -- right after the Red Sox won their first World Series in 86 years. In fact, they were shown in a closeup within 60 seconds of the final out. And every Red Sox fan is determined to pretend that this never happened, and that it didn't taint the moment even a little bit ... so it wasn't a huge deal.

[Snoogans]

yea but tool, the braves brought back your favorite player, BRIAN JORDAN so maybe he can finish the murder against looper

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[Bulldogcakes]

Very true. Crips is one of the rare Yankee fans that has a basic sense of reality, got no problem w/ guys like him


Agreed...for every true die-hard, there's the guy who looks at monument park & says things like, "That Babe Ruth, old #4, he sure was somethin' wasn't he?"

You Crippler are a motherfucking disgrace to all Yankee fans, Baseball, and Humanity itself. BABE FUCKING RUTH WAS #3!! REPEAT #3!!!!!!! HOW CAN YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO BREATHE AS A YANKEE FAN AND FUCK THAT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Snoogans]

he was sayin for every fan thats real, there is a fake fan who would say the wrong number, he put the 4 in on purpose.

READ SON

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[Bulldogcakes]

#1 Billy Martin
#2 Derrick Jeter
#3 Babe Ruth
#4 Lou Gehrig
#5 Joe DiMaggio
#6 Joe Torre
#7 Mickey Mantle
#8 Yogi Berra/Bill Dickey

If you cant do 1-8 off the top of your head, then you are a Yankee fan without a clue

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[Bulldogcakes]

he was sayin for every fan thats real, there is a fake fan who would say the wrong number, he put the 4 in on purpose.

READ SON

Oops! I didn't get that. My bad. Sorry Cripp
I thought he meant guys that were more old school than him

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[Iamnotatool]

Bulldog my good man, breathe. Crips was pointing out the bandwagon fans who wouldn't know jack about the Yanks or their tradition.

While I do put you there with crip as a good fan, I think the reading skills need work. This is not unusual for a Yankee fan. ZING!

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