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Recyclerz
10-19-2004, 01:52 PM
I think you'll all enjoy this. Apparently, The Guardian, a (liberal, I deduce) newspaper in the UK has started a project wherein interested Brits "adopt" a voter in Clark County, OH and try to cajole him/her into voting against Bush. While I'm down with the cause, as an American I'm also kinda proud of some of the responses they got back. Enjoy!
America speaks (http://talk.workunlimited.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1329728,00.html)
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East Side Dave
10-19-2004, 02:28 PM
Have you not noticed that Americans don't give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don't give a rat's ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don't. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.
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silera
10-20-2004, 04:55 AM
Please be advised that I have forwarded this to the CIA and FBI.
Genius!
I'll be forwarding all my emails straight to the top from this point forward.
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I find it funny that someone from Kentucky would bring up capped teeth.
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CaptClown
10-20-2004, 05:44 AM
I can see this backfiring on them in a very big way.
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Crippler
10-20-2004, 07:42 AM
I find it funny that someone from Kentucky would bring up capped teeth.
I find it odd that someone from Kentucky would have a computer with which to communicate with said limey ***holes.
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10-20-2004, 09:08 AM
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blakjeezis
10-20-2004, 09:12 AM
If I created a post that was titled "Dear Nigger ***holes" and was full of nothing but racial slurs against Blacks, would it be tolerated?
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Sheeplovr
10-20-2004, 09:23 AM
They need to recheck there undecided voter lists cause those people sound really damm decided
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jeffdwright2001
10-20-2004, 11:09 AM
If I created a post that was titled "Dear Nigger ***holes" and was full of nothing but racial slurs against Blacks, would it be tolerated?
Probably only if you title it "Dear "N" word ***holes.
It probably should have been "Dear "L" word ***holes.
I'm sure both are far less offensive.
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Recyclerz
10-20-2004, 12:08 PM
If I created a post that was titled "Dear Nigger ***holes" and was full of nothing but racial slurs against Blacks, would it be tolerated?
Fair point, I guess. I lifted the thread title directly from the Guardian's web site headline and assumed that anyone who clicked through would realize that it was used ironically. Maybe I should have used "quotes" or smilies :) to make it all better.
Or maybe I should have used 4 * for "arse" instead of the vulgar Americanized "ass".
Anyway, I apologize to any Brits or any other vitamin C deficient peeps I may have offended.
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JustJon
10-20-2004, 01:55 PM
RonFez.Net does not allow hate speech. But Recyclerz was copying the headline from the other site. He probably should have pointed that out in his post.
A thread "Dear Niggers and Kikes" without a valid reason for posting is not allowed on this site.
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PanterA
10-20-2004, 02:02 PM
what jon said
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10-20-2004, 02:09 PM
I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SOLVE THE FUCKIN' PUZZLE!1
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blakjeezis
10-20-2004, 02:24 PM
RonFez.Net does not allow hate speech.
As long as it's not an original statement. If someone else says or writes it first, and you're just repeating it, it's okay.
That should go in the FAQ.
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TheMojoPin
10-20-2004, 03:00 PM
"Limey" is hate speech?
As it was explained to me in high school, it's the equivalent of calling an American a "Yankee." It's a far cry from any kind of ethnic slur or so-called "hate speech." I mean, if it was so horrendous, why would a British newspaper be using it in its own headline in such a joking fashion?
In short, it's a nickname. Slang. "Nigger" is meant to insult, demean and even dehumanize the person it is targeted at. Same with "kike."
I mean, here they are according to Merriam-Webster...
Main Entry: nigúger
Pronunciation: 'ni-g&r
Function: noun
Etymology: alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger
1 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a black person
2 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of any dark-skinned race
3 : a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons <it's time for somebody to lead all of America's niggers... all the people who feel left out of the political process -- Ron Dellums>
usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English. Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive, but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.
Main Entry: 1limúey
Pronunciation: 'lI-mE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural limeys
Usage: often capitalized
Etymology: lime-juicer + 4-y
1 slang : a British sailor
2 slang : ENGLISHMAN
I dunno. I could be completely wrong...I grew up with plenty of British expats, and not a one was ever offended by "Limey," and I never even heard it used with a fraction of the built-in malice that comes with a word like "nigger" or "kike" in the first place.
Not that it's supposed to make sense. "Limey's" no big deal. But what about "Kraut?" "Guinea?" Or "Frog?" "Gook" and "chink" are apparently out of bounds...so what defines the difference between a slur and a nickname? Where is the line crossed...and what the hell is the line in the first place?
Damned if I know.
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blakjeezis
10-20-2004, 03:42 PM
I am a British expat, and it offends me. I don't want to get of on a rant here, but there is a serious undercurrent of Anti-English/British sentiment in American culture. Not so much hate, just jabs here and there. It comes across as jealous mockery, a sort of cultural penis envy. But notice that whenever something needs to be shown as better than average, superlative, or sophisticated, e.g. a Lexus, they'll always use an Englishman for the voice over. I think I've discussed it here before.
It just get s under my skin that some races, nationalities, ethnicities are afforded this kind of protection while others are not. Bill Parcells has a minor incident for saying 'Jap', but 'Brit' is considered a part of speech. Doesn't make sense to me, but what does is that I get the same protections afforded everyone else.
And forget about the other shit in the thread. Can I make a post talking about chinks being the world's worst drvers or niggers not reading too well? I would assume not ,but this thread is rife with comments about English people having bad teeth. Yes it's a joke, so were my comments and they would not get treated the same way.
All I ask is for some consistency, bitches.
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TheMojoPin
10-20-2004, 04:05 PM
I would assume not ,but this thread is rife with comments about English people having bad teeth. Yes it's a joke, so were my comments and they would not get treated the same way.
Well, I don't disagree with the overall point, but this thread actually ISN'T rife with any of the posters here taking shots at British people.
Seriously.
Read back through it.
There are more "insults" against people from Kentucky than against British here. Everything else was quoted or linked to on the Guardian's site.
Recyclerz was quoting the healdine of the article. We TRY to not lock up a thread just because of the use of a word. It's more an issue of context.
There's "nigger" all over the place here. (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/69/Topic/41321/page/Using_the__N__word.htm)
A thread about "Gook Ave.." (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/40124/page/how_about_Gook_Ave__.htm)
Should this thread entitled "CUNT" get the chop? (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/36902/page/CUNT.htm)
More "nigger" conversation, sadly. (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/38978/page/Catch_a____________by_the_toe___.htm)
"Nigga" AND "nigger." (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/34685/page/Nigga_vs_Nigger__Let_s_stop_this__huh_.htm)
Is Ludacris a nigger? (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/80/Topic/32584/page/Ludacris__Black_Guy_or_Nigger_.htm)
The "N-word." (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/69/Topic/30295/page/The__N_word_.htm)
So, no, we don't always just automatically lock a thread just because a slur shows up in the thread, or the thread title itself.
Look, I'll plead complete ignorance here. I had NO idea the term "limey" was offensive. Again, it seems to be the equivalent of "Yankee" or "Yank." Even more so with "Brit"...maybe I'm just completely clueless.
And it would be one thing if this thread WAS filled with attacks on British people left and right...but it's not. If anything, it's making fun of the silly idea the Guardian had, and the moronic responses they got from some of the Americans they contacted (Of which Recyclerz is "kinda proud of some." That's about as anti-British as it got). Nowhere was it even implied that anyone started this thread just to go on some rampant anti-British tirade.
And it's a slippery slope. Pretty much every thread that mentions France or the French turns into "anti-French" jokes. Are those gone? "Northern" posters make fun of "Southern" posters. Is that done? DC fans make fun of NYC/NJ fans, and vice-versa. Is that gone?
Let me put it this way...if someone came on and started a thread about how "I HATE THE FUCKING BRITISH" filled with malice and anger towards the British, yes, it would probably go, since it would serve to do nothing but incite conflict. Have we NOT locked threads potentially similar to that, in displays of ridiculous hypocrisy? Of course. And that all stems from perception. I guarentee you 100% of all the mods didn't think twice about this thread or the word "limey." Does that mean we were necessarily RIGHT in doing so? No. But at the same time, you honestly can't be surprised that probably 99.9% of the people here don't view a word like "limey" (And especially "Brit," which I just assumed was an abbreviation) anywhere near as blatantly hurtful as a word like "nigger."
I mean, as far as I know, "limey" and "Brit" don't even have the historical context of words like "nigger" or "kike" or "jap"...namely, they were never "used" like those words. That doesn't mean you can't find them offensive...but it pretty much guarentees you that anyone using "Brit" or "limey" isn't even THINKING of using them in the same way as "nigger." The context doesn't even exist in the first place for them to do so.
Like, here's the Merriam-Webster definition of "Brit"...
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TheMojoPin
10-20-2004, 04:24 PM
*Warning* This article contains offensive words to most. It is guaranteed to piss some people off. It is not the intent to offend people, but I don't think that some oversensitivity is a justifiable reason to eliminate discussion of issues (in that it is good for society if we CAN discuss these things). So I will take the risks and the flames, and discuss some sensitive issues. (http://www.igeek.com/articles/Politics/General/Whatsinaname.txt)
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10-20-2004, 04:36 PM
White people are so afraid of British people
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Reephdweller
10-20-2004, 04:46 PM
This is weird, but its like Mojo has turned into the poor mans Chairman Kaga.
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TheMojoPin
10-20-2004, 04:47 PM
But it LOOKS so pretty!
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Reephdweller
10-20-2004, 04:50 PM
I was impressed in that "Ooooooooooo words" sense.
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TheMojoPin
10-20-2004, 04:59 PM
I....I....
I don't talk to girls much.
Or at all.
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Iamnotatool
10-20-2004, 05:00 PM
It comes across as jealous mockery, a sort of cultural penis envy
Yes, we envy your chiclet butter teeth (not you personally, just your "cuture") and your women with unshaven armpits. Yum.
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TheMojoPin
10-20-2004, 05:09 PM
Wow, not only do you prove him kind of right, but you get your stereotypes completely mixed the fuck up.
If you're gonna be a prick, at least do it right, goddammit.
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I don't want to get of on a rant here, but there is a serious undercurrent of Anti-English/British sentiment in American culture. Not so much hate, just jabs here and there.
For the most part that's just Mojo trashing Led Zeppelin.
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TheMojoPin
10-21-2004, 03:48 AM
Yeah.
Plus, I hate Aerosmith and Cheap Trick even MORE, and they're TOTALLY American.
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