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TheRealEddie
10-13-2004, 01:56 PM
So Bill O'reilly filed suit for extortion by a former co-worker who claims Bill O' sexually harassed her.

The smoking gun has detailed papers about what she claims wild man O'Reilly discussed with her.

Smoking Gun story (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html)

I wonder if this is going to hurt sales of his chart topping single? :)

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HBox
10-13-2004, 02:00 PM
I just read that whole thing before you posted it. HILARIOUS!

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TheRealEddie
10-13-2004, 02:01 PM
Yeah, really amazing detail. I wonder if she really did tape stuff just like the smoking gun author seems to think so. How sweet would that be? :)



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Yerdaddy
10-13-2004, 02:45 PM
EW! EW! EW! EW!

Reading that dialogue about what he'd do to her in the shower with the loofa mits, (LOOFA MITS?! Why not a catcher's mit you fag!), and hearing it in my head with that overly-modulated pretentious broadcast voice of his is fucking creepy! It's like calling phone sex and finding out it's my grandmother. I can't beleive he's actually a bigger tool than I thought he was yesterday.

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HBox
10-13-2004, 02:51 PM
My favorite part: When O'Reilly is talking on the phone with her while pleasuring himself with a vibrator.


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This message was edited by HBox on 10-13-04 @ 6:51 PM

Yerdaddy
10-13-2004, 03:19 PM
Now I'm glad I just found out I get Air America in Colorado. Al Franken is going to have so much fun with this, which is probably going to make it so much worse for O'Reilly that he'll forget all about his vibrator "shaped like a cock with a little battery in it" that he allegedly had stuck in his no-spin zone.

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Reephdweller
10-13-2004, 03:28 PM
WOW. He's such a douchebag. I hope she has tapes on him.

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10-13-2004, 03:54 PM
Kobe


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Doctor Manhattan
10-13-2004, 03:59 PM
Holy shit!

When is Bill and Al on their respective shows? Did this come up before his radio show today? I can't wait to hear his spin on it.

Oh Bill's on now! what a douchebag.

Edit: Oh, he's just lumping this is in with all his other "threats" What a big man, this woman is threatening <b>him</b>. No details except for the $60million

edit 2: Al's on at 11:30 on Sundance (I guess from this morning, so it won't be mentioned until tomorrow. Can't wait!)

edit3: Who's looking out for this woman?

edit4: Wait a sec, all this is over the phone? Why didn't she hang up, block the call and report Bill to his boss? He doesn't own foxnews. I hate to support Bill, I hope there's more to this.

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This message was edited by SKW on 10-13-04 @ 8:14 PM

GodsFavoriteMan
10-13-2004, 10:01 PM
She may not have done anything at first out of fear. Then she probably just started gathering evidence against him. And then he started insulting her, (I believe) on the air.

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HBox
10-13-2004, 10:17 PM
I don't know or care if any of this is true. All I know is that just imagining what was in that document entertained me immensely. Man, I hope O&A spend some time on it tomorrow.

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cumbiero_81
10-14-2004, 05:59 AM
"I'm going to use this loofa thing on you"

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angrymissy
10-14-2004, 06:25 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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Doctor Manhattan
10-14-2004, 06:45 AM
<a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris16.html">From the smoking gun:</a>

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be sure to use a lot of Hummus, otherwise it's really dry.



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A.J.
10-14-2004, 07:18 AM
http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/1013043mackris16.jpg

Now those are some "Talking Points"!

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GodsFavoriteMan
10-14-2004, 07:20 AM
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<b>Oh, My Gentle Jesus!</b>



So hot. . .

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Doctor Manhattan
10-14-2004, 07:22 AM
did she hear something hit the phone, or was it just the sound of Bill's voice that let her know he "ejaculated"?

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TheRealEddie
10-14-2004, 07:58 AM
Given the number of instances she claims to have been harassed, it seems likely she would have the sense to make a recording at some point. How amazing would that be if she had one (or many) and it was released to the public? Probably destroy ol' Bill's career.



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Furtherman
10-14-2004, 08:21 AM
Bill you so freaky! He even used the word "boobs." How could a woman resist?

I wish it would end his career. But look at Rush, he's still spouting lies.

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SatCam
10-14-2004, 02:20 PM
The whole idea of ORielly masturbating with a cock shaped vibrator just gets me hard.

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10-14-2004, 02:44 PM
Thats so nasty.

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Tenbatsuzen
10-14-2004, 06:05 PM
Alll righty folks, let me get super-mysogynistic here.

She left, went to CNN, and came back to the show.

She never filed a single complaint with Fox News. Sexual Harrasment suits go to court when nothing is done about the behavior.

They knew since September 29th this was coming, when the extortion threat was coming.

And here's the most telling thing...

The lawyers have DEEP ties to the DNC. Check please, three weeks before the elections?



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Yerdaddy
10-14-2004, 06:14 PM
so she's trying to cost O'Reilly the election?

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TheMojoPin
10-14-2004, 06:52 PM
The lawyers have DEEP ties to the DNC. Check please, three weeks before the elections?

Wow, way to leap from point A to theory Q, with nary logical idea in between, Mannix.

What the fuck is accomplished in the context of the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION by saddling TELEVISION/RADIO PUNDIT BILL O'REILLY with a sex scandal?

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shamus mcfitzy
10-15-2004, 01:34 AM
Mojo, everytime you say "saddling" you get O'Reilly all hot and bothered. You should know by now what it does to him!!

shamus mcfitzy
10-15-2004, 01:35 AM
double post

i have feeling that NATRONE MEANS would say: NATRONE MEANS SAYS BILL O'REILLY SHOULDN"T TRY TO SEXUALLY HARRASS NATRONE BECAUSE THEN I'D BEAT HIS ASS AND FUCK HIM!!!! CHOO CHOO!!!! NATRONE EXPRESS GONNA PLOW YA!!!!

This message was edited by shamus mcfitzy on 10-15-04 @ 5:40 AM

Doctor Manhattan
10-15-2004, 04:14 AM
And here's the most telling thing...

The lawyers have DEEP ties to the DNC. Check please, three weeks before the elections?

:confuse: But Bill O'Reilly is an independent!

Seriously, That is a very silly statement. She's just trying to get paid.

Bill O'Reilly isn't going to cost anyone the election. Fox News is still full of pro-Bush people, O'Reilly isn't the whole network. Bill isn't THAT important to Bush.

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TheRealEddie
10-15-2004, 04:27 AM
Seriously, That is a very silly statement. She's just trying to get paid.



In which case she has to have tapes...right? She'd be smart enough to do that. That is unless she's making this up.

Hmm, I wonder if other victims will start coming out.

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Doctor Manhattan
10-15-2004, 05:20 AM
In which case she has to have tapes...right? She'd be smart enough to do that. That is unless she's making this up.


She'd better have tapes. If this happened and she kept letting him talk to her like this without taping him, then she's a moron.

If I were Bill (and for some reason I didn't shot myself) I would go on the air and DEMAND to hear tapes of this, unless he really did it then I'd clam up like he's doing.

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Tenbatsuzen
10-15-2004, 08:14 AM
The only reason why I came up with this theory is this...

As little as four months ago, New Jersey was locked up as a state for Kerry.

Then the Governor's sex scandal came out - something that really has nothing to do with the Presidential election but reflects very badly on democrats...

Suddenly, Kerry's lead is killified and NJ is now a swing state.

O'Reilly is one of the leading commentators on the leading conservative news channel. He's is one of the best known conservative faces, and he and Hannitty have taken the throne from Rush as the voice of mainstream conservative politics in America.

So yeah, for something like this to come out - especially considering how tight the polls are (even though I don't believe in them) - right before the election and given the ties to the DNC, I have every right to believe this.

I'm not saying this is solid, it's just a THOUGHT.

Besides, I don't believe an instant of this. How the FUCK can you have phone-sex against your will? How can you continually go to dinner with someone who is harassing you? How can you go one place, leave, come back, and claim harassment at both places?

I see no HR paper trail.

I DO see an attempt at extortion.



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TheMojoPin
10-15-2004, 08:19 AM
Of course you do.

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GodsFavoriteMan
10-15-2004, 08:20 AM
So, for the sake of argument. Let's say these transcripts are based on tapes. And that we can hear him saying all this shit.

What then?

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TheRealEddie
10-15-2004, 08:26 AM
What then?



Bill gets canned and we have a new made for TV movie. I wonder who would play Bill?

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Tenbatsuzen
10-15-2004, 12:25 PM
So, for the sake of argument. Let's say these transcripts are based on tapes. And that we can hear him saying all this shit.

What then?



Will we hear her say, "Bill, that's being really inappropriate. You should stop, because I feel uncomfortable." Then he's done.

Don't forget, the court report says she FEELS repulsed. Did she ever express this to O'Reilly? Did she ever tell him to stop?

Are the tapes doctored in any way?

I did not read the whole thing, as being on a dialup kills my load time. But I need to know if SHE expressed TO HIM that she felt this way.

Again, HR works this way...

You first tell the person that is making you feel uncomfortable to stop.

If you don't want to do it that way, you express yourself to the person's supervisor.

If it still isn't resolved, then you go to Human Resources.

After that, you then involve legal proceedings.

There's a process to this which the woman clearly did not follow.

And of course the woman wants to get paid. Why did she make the tapes and not go to HR? Why go right to this, and why the hell did her lawyers threaten for 60 million?

Whore.

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Furtherman
10-15-2004, 01:18 PM
I wonder who would play Bill?


Either Alec Baldwin or Chuck Floyd.

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Doctor Manhattan
10-15-2004, 06:39 PM
As little as four months ago, New Jersey was locked up as a state for Kerry.

Then the Governor's sex scandal came out - something that really has nothing to do with the Presidential election but reflects very badly on democrats...

Suddenly, Kerry's lead is killified and NJ is now a swing state.

O'Reilly is one of the leading commentators on the leading conservative news channel. He's is one of the best known conservative faces, and he and Hannitty have taken the throne from Rush as the voice of mainstream conservative politics in America.

So yeah, for something like this to come out - especially considering how tight the polls are (even though I don't believe in them) - right before the election and given the ties to the DNC, I have every right to believe this.

That fine, but he not a politician. Conservatives may lose faith in Bill O'Rielly, but I don't think they would turn on Conservative politicians* unless one of them did something like this. Conservatives will just find another voice to listen to.

* Fezzy is turning on the GOP based on the administration

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Yerdaddy
10-16-2004, 12:50 AM
As little as four months ago, New Jersey was locked up as a state for Kerry.

Then the Governor's sex scandal came out - something that really has nothing to do with the Presidential election but reflects very badly on democrats...

Suddenly, Kerry's lead is killified and NJ is now a swing state.

O'Reilly is one of the leading commentators on the leading conservative news channel. He's is one of the best known conservative faces, and he and Hannitty have taken the throne from Rush as the voice of mainstream conservative politics in America.

So yeah, for something like this to come out - especially considering how tight the polls are (even though I don't believe in them) - right before the election and given the ties to the DNC, I have every right to believe this.

Complete jibberish. What happens to Bill O'Reilly has no bearing on the president's approval ratings. The poll numbers fluctuate daily and by poll methods. Colorado is a solid republican state. Three weeks ago Bush had a ten point lead. A week ago the lead was down to one point. Now it's over twelve points. Your theory doesn't hold up.


whore

You're right. You are a mysogynist. And it's pretty pathetic.

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This message was edited by Yerdaddy on 10-16-04 @ 5:07 AM

42nd-delay
10-16-2004, 07:15 AM
I don't think this case will be wrapped up before the election anyway. And the biggest problem for O'Reilly is if its proven, through tapes or whatever, that he said these things, he looks like a weirdo and scumbag. Even if its not proven she was harassed.

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Tenbatsuzen
10-16-2004, 10:09 PM
Yerdaddy, I find it quite bothersome that you disagree with my Democratic Bush-bashing theory (which is fine), but you completely blow by my quite-accurate portrayal of the woman's handling of sexual harrasment proceedure and call me a mysogynist because I called the woman a whore.

Answer me this... if the woman wants a comfortable workplace, why didn't she just use the tapes with Fox News and get something done? I mean, the woman already got a superior fired at CNN. She went RIGHT for the payday, and in fact, may have tried to extort Fox News.

60 million dollars for "forced phone sex" does not equate. Christ, I know people who have lost limbs on the job and haven't gotten that much.



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Yerdaddy
10-17-2004, 06:54 AM
Yerdaddy, I find it quite bothersome that you disagree with my Democratic Bush-bashing theory (which is fine), but you completely blow by my quite-accurate portrayal of the woman's handling of sexual harrasment proceedure and call me a mysogynist because I called the woman a whore.
No, because <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/75/Topic/39841/page/My_favorite_word_lately_is__whore__.htm" target="_blank">whore is your favorite word</a>, but more importantly you also used the word to describe Kobe's accuser despite the fact that you posted absolutely no credible evidence that any of the claims you made about here were true. (How's that pregnancy story coming along?) It just seems to me that when a public figure is accused of wrongdoing, you determine at the outset that she's a lying whore. Like the Kobe case you might be right about the woman, but you have presented no evidence as proof. This case is only three or four days old and yet you've already decided she's a whore.

Answer me this... if the woman wants a comfortable workplace, why didn't she just use the tapes with Fox News and get something done?
I don't know firsthand the culture of Fox News, but I would bet that it's not one in which you can just walk in and tell the senior management that the man who is single-handedly bringing the company millions of dollars won't stop hitting on you and expect them to side with you. I'd say it's more likely that to protect their cash cow they're going to start looking at your file for reasons to discredit and destroy you if necessary. You can't talk about that kind of culture of wealth and power as if it's the shift manager at I-Hop looking down the hostess' blouses. But again, this is going to be a long legal process, but you've already made your verdict.

I mean, the woman already got a superior fired at CNN.
Sources. (And some O'Reilly fan from another messageboard doesn't count.)

She went RIGHT for the payday, and in fact, may have tried to extort Fox News.
...and the operative word here is what?

60 million dollars for "forced phone sex" does not equate. Christ, I know people who have lost limbs on the job and haven't gotten that much.
True. But how often do people get what they ask for in lawsuits? People usually get a small fraction of what they ask for, (in fact nearly all civil awards are reduced to a fraction of the original award on appeal). So they started high, and Fox and O'Reilly started with a counter-suit. Where's the unusual part? None of this is evidence that she's lying. The high dollar amount will be based on the assumption that by having to sue a public figure to get him to stop the harassment will damage her otherwise lucrative career, making her subject for the rest of it that she's a gold-digging opportunist just like you've assumed.

Or you may end up being right. But the assumptions you're making, and based on what evidence you've presented or is even available at this point, leads me to agree with what you said earlier in this thread - that it seems that you are a mysogynist.

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TheMojoPin
10-17-2004, 07:08 AM
See, this is why it's great to present yourself as a liberal. Then nobody has any standards to judge you by when you're revealed to be the filthy pervert we ALL are inside.

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SatCam
10-17-2004, 07:29 AM
Billy will settle out of court. She gets $1M and his vibrator and he gets her virginity.

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10-22-2004, 04:59 AM
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angrymissy
10-22-2004, 06:28 AM
Running to HR doesnt always work when youre being harassed. Sometimes people are so shocked by it they don't know what to do. Once you complain to HR, and have a sexual harrasment case on your record, you're basically blacklisted and your career is done. No one is going to want to hire you. Of course its not SUPPOSED to happen that way, but the sad reality is, it does, especially in a career in any sort of media organization, where there is a lot of networking going on with the higher level execs.

When I was maybe 19, I was interviewing for an admin job. I was on, I think the 3rd interview with one of the higher up execs.

We're about 15 minutes into the interview and it seemed to be going good, and the guy leans over his desk, licks his lips, and says "you're as ripe as a peach, I could just eat you up". What I SHOULD have done was walk out, but I was so goddamned shocked that I just smiled and sat through the rest of the interview.

No one can say what someone should do in that situation, we do not know that woman's fears about ruining her career, losing her job, etc, which could also be why she is suing for a signifigant amount of money, because after this, her career is basically done.

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silera
10-22-2004, 06:43 AM
What I SHOULD have done was walk out, but I was so goddamned shocked that I just smiled and sat through the rest of the interview.


I had a very similar experience. I was in the fucking stirrups at an OB-GYN appointment, and the doctor actually grabbed my ass and said "firm." I was so shocked that I convinced myself I hadn't heard it and then just never went back there again.



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Doctor Manhattan
10-22-2004, 07:06 AM
"you're as ripe as a peach, I could just eat you up".



grabbed my ass and said "firm."


It moved a little, is that wrong? ;)

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TheMojoPin
10-22-2004, 09:01 AM
Just remember, Silera and Missy, according to Tenbats' "logic," if you had done anything after the fact to those scumbags, you would have been "whores."

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silera
10-22-2004, 09:11 AM
Angry and Missy

I suppose I'm "Angry."



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Doctor Manhattan
10-22-2004, 09:18 AM
I had a very similar experience. ..and the doctor actually grabbed my ass and said "firm." I was so shocked that I convinced myself I hadn't heard it and then just never went back there again.


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Did your doctor look like the guy in your sig? :p

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TheMojoPin
10-22-2004, 09:24 AM
Angry and Missy

I suppose I'm "Angry."

Or just "Grumpy."

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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 06:17 PM
FYI - Ron reading the script of the phone call as O'Reilly can be found here (http://www.ronfez.net/displaymedia.cfm/id/2453)

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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 06:43 PM
Just remember, Silera and Missy, according to Tenbats' "logic," if you had done anything after the fact to those scumbags, you would have been "whores."



Now you're putting words in my mouth.

I called her a whore for the following reasons...

1) She knew what the climate was at Fox News after leaving there <I>and went back there.</i> (Silera did not go back to the OB-GYN, and from the looks of it, Missy didn't take the job where she was harassed)

2) They tried to extort Fox News, and didn't release the entire tape to them.

3) They released "select portions" of the tape to media to paint O'Reilly as a scumbag and gain public sympathy, when in reality, there are much bigger scumbags out there.

4) She sues for SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS. As I said before, people who lose limbs on the job don't get that much money, why the hell does she think she's entitled to so much?

Vanessa Snelgrave's family deserves sixty million. Not this case.

5) The case is close to being settled a week later. As I said before, Fox knew this was coming. If they were so fast to settle, I gotta believe that this was bogus on the part of the accuser, NOT Fox News. I mean, the case brouhaha died down really fast. If there was something to it, the media would have run with it a lot longer - especially a "liberal media".



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TheMojoPin
10-23-2004, 06:46 PM
Do you have any idea how anything works anywhere?

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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 06:50 PM
5) The case is close to being settled a week later. As I said before, Fox knew this was coming. If they were so fast to settle, I gotta believe that this was bogus on the part of the accuser, NOT Fox News. I mean, the case brouhaha died down really fast. If there was something to it, the media would have run with it a lot longer - especially a "liberal media".


Huh? Settlement would be fast because she was full of shit? Why? Wouldn't that impede a settlement?

Also, the media would have run with it longer if there was something to it? Forgive me, but I haven't been following this that closely. No tapes have been released, there are no additional details ro report beyond this potenetial settlement. Maybe the media coverage has dies down because there's nothing new to report. Your logic baffles me.

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10-23-2004, 06:51 PM
...and I do think you hate women.

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HBox
10-23-2004, 06:52 PM
R. Kelly just called. He desperately wants Tenbats on his jury.

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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 06:54 PM
Huh? Settlement would be fast because she was full of shit? Why? Wouldn't that impede a settlement?



A settlement doesn't have to favor the complaintant. Rena "Sable" Mero sued the WWE for sexual harrasment awhile ago. The case was "settled", and she got NOTHING because she was full of shit. And so was her gymbag.

Fox News knew this was coming. If they knew she had something, why didn't they settle first, before the story even broke?

Maybe the media coverage has dies down because there's nothing new to report. Your logic baffles me.

I'm sorry, did you watch ANY of the Kobe coverage? The news made it the lead story for the most minute detail. News media LOVES salacious stories covered in sex and fame.



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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 06:56 PM
...and I do think you hate women.



Other than what my thoughts were on Kobe's accuser and this, I'd appreciate some detail on this revelation.





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TheMojoPin
10-23-2004, 07:01 PM
Fox News knew this was coming. If they knew she had something, why didn't they settle first, before the story even broke?

Because settling automatically means guilt in the public's eye, for the most part. And for an organization that caters to it's "conservative" core audience so desperately to just give up their #1-rated talking head like that would be a devastating body blow. Potentially, the guy could lose his show, and he's their #1 pull.

If they go to trial, their option, as a HUGE company with a gazillion dollars, is to hire a team...an army...of the greatest lawyers in the world to prove this wrong, no matter if she is telling the truth.

Which choice would you pick, if money was no option, as it is with Fox?

Did you learn NOTHING from OJ? You hire enough lawyers, enough GREAT lawyers, you can convince a jury of almost anything.

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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 07:03 PM
Huh? Settlement would be fast because she was full of shit? Why? Wouldn't that impede a settlement?



A settlement doesn't have to favor the complaintant. Rena "Sable" Mero sued the WWE for sexual harrasment awhile ago. The case was "settled", and she got NOTHING because she was full of shit. And so was her gymbag.

Fox News knew this was coming. If they knew she had something, why didn't they settle first, before the story even broke?

Maybe they gambled and lost. Maybe they thought there was nothing to it, and realized after the case broke that there was something to the case and there were tapes. I don't assume that the settlement favors anyone, neither should you. It's a settlement, not a judgment.


Maybe the media coverage has dies down because there's nothing new to report. Your logic baffles me.

I'm sorry, did you watch ANY of the Kobe coverage? The news made it the lead story for the most minute detail. News media LOVES salacious stories covered in sex and fame.


But honestly, what else is there to report? The most salacious details are already out there, and you can't really top them without releasing tapes. Also, it's not a rape case -- sexual harrassment and rape are completely different. Also, the caliber of celebrity is a tad different as well.

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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 07:07 PM
...and I do think you hate women.



Other than what my thoughts were on Kobe's accuser and this, I'd appreciate some detail on this revelation.

Mostly just a goof on your propensity to go from zero to "whore!" in a matter of seconds.

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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:12 PM
Time for a little rant.

First, a ton of you in this thread were doing a little schaefrude (sp, whatever) because you don't like O'Reilly. Your sole sticking point? Because he likes to have his ass played with.

BIG FUCKING DEAL.

We live in a world where the funniest guy on radio today likes to have hookers shit on his chest. If you're so shocked and appalled that a hetero man can like having his prostate tickled, you seriously need to realize that most people are freaks and they will NOT talk about what kind of things get them off.

We live in a world where the famous are attacked because they have power and money. We live in a world where the news will go with a story and blow it out of proportion for the sole purpose of getting every dollar and every rating point and share it can. (conservative AND liberals alike)

I'm sick of it. I'm sick of people being guilty before anything even starts, and I'm sick of people bending laws just to make as much money as they possibly can.

Only in America, indeed.

You're damn right I took Kobe's side in his case. I can't stand Kobe.

And yes, I took O'Reilly's side even though I've maybe listened to him three times in my entire life.

Simply enough: Innocent until proven guilty.

If you have such a problem with my usage of the word whore, it's not because I'm mysogynistic. I view a person as a whore as one who tries to get money in an unearned or unethical fashion. I think Kevin Brown is a whore. Does this mean I hate men and the New York Yankees too?

My views of Kate Faber being a whore isn't because she likes to be fucked on a regular basis by multiple men. That's a slut. A WHORE is a person who drops her criminal complaint of rape, but not her civil complaint.

A lot of people are awfully sensitive to that word around here. And you accuse me of being mysogynistic, and smear me because you think I hate women.

I said this before and I'll say it again: I have strong opinions, and you can hate me for that. But when you come at me with one-liners (Mojo) and you have nothing more than that, I'd appreciate it if you don't make blanket statements.



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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:15 PM
Because settling automatically means guilt in the public's eye, for the most part.



They had a chance to settle in late September, before the story even broke and anyone had any idea about this.

Don't forget, that's where the extortion charge comes: She and her lawyers met with Fox execs before even filing court papers and said, "We have tapes. You give us money, nothing gets out."

If Fox was so worried, why didn't they just pay her a couple of million to make her go away then? Would have been a lot cheaper than going to trial.



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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 07:16 PM
Don't forget, that's where the extortion charge comes: She and her lawyers met with Fox execs before even filing court papers and said, "We have tapes. You give us money, nothing gets out."


source?

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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:17 PM
Mostly just a goof on your propensity to go from zero to "whore!" in a matter of seconds.


Wow, that's a FABULOUS sig pic idea.



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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:18 PM
source?



Fox and O'Reilly's countersuit to the sex harrasment charge, claiming extortion. Countersuit says the woman and her lawyers had a private meeting with Fox Lawyers and O'Reilly and told them they were going to sue unless they settled now.





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HBox
10-23-2004, 07:19 PM
I'm sick of people being guilty before anything even starts, and I'm sick of people bending laws just to make as much money as they possibly can.

Well, you've branded this woman a whore and an extortionist before anything starts. You are doing exactly what you ranted against.

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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 07:20 PM
source?



Fox and O'Reilly's countersuit to the sex harrasment charge, claiming extortion. Countersuit says the woman and her lawyers had a private meeting with Fox Lawyers and O'Reilly and told them they were going to sue unless they settled now.

Where's the part about the tapes?

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HBox
10-23-2004, 07:20 PM
Fox and O'Reilly's countersuit to the sex harrasment charge, claiming extortion. Countersuit says the woman and her lawyers had a private meeting with Fox Lawyers and O'Reilly and told them they were going to sue unless they settled now.

That kind of stuff is standard. I saw a legal expert on CNN say that getting a lawyer and trying to settle happens all the time before these kinds of cases.

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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:22 PM
[font=Century gothic][color=navy][size=2]Well, you've branded this woman a whore and an extortionist before anything starts. You are doing exactly what you ranted against.

My reasoning is simple: SHE WENT BACK. She knew what she was getting into, hence...

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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 07:25 PM
[font=Century gothic][color=navy][size=2]Well, you've branded this woman a whore and an extortionist before anything starts. You are doing exactly what you ranted against.

My reasoning is simple: SHE WENT BACK. She knew what she was getting into, hence...



Do we know that the shit started before she left?

Edit: Why are we all typing like HBox now?

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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:26 PM
That kind of stuff is standard. I saw a legal expert on CNN say that getting a lawyer and trying to settle happens all the time before these kinds of cases.

If you get sued, you lawyer up. More breakthrough reporting by cable news.



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HBox
10-23-2004, 07:27 PM
You have NO IDEA what occured between these two. And neither do I. Everyone here was laughing about this thing. People like that this moralist has a freaky sex side. People find it funny.

Nobody here is making any definitive statements of innocence of guilt except YOU. Everyone here is waiting due process except YOU.

EDIT: If you use the quote post feature on my posts, be sure not to cut off the end tags for font, color and size or else your text will look like mine. And we can't have that, because I am a beautiful, unique snowflake.



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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:28 PM
From April 2000 through January 2004, Fox employed Mackris as an Associate Producer on The O'Reilly Factor, a cable television news show hosted by O'Reilly. O'Reilly and Mackris maintained a good and productive working relationship for the almost four years of her initial employment. She even stayed on after saying in 2002 that she intended to leave Fox for a higher-paying job unless O'Reilly and Fox agreed to increase her compensation, which they did. Then in January 2004, Mackris ultimately decided to leave the show to accept an even higher-paying position with CNN, Fox's major competitor. A few months after leaving Fox, however, Mackris spoke with O'Reilly and expressed unhappiness with her new job at CNN. She said that her boss at CNN had been terminated for sexual harassment, and asked O'Reilly if she could return to The O'Reilly Factor at the higher salary she then earned at CNN. Mackris returned to Fox in July 2004 as an Associate Producer for The O'Reilly Factor at a salary of $93,200.



So let me get this straight - she works for O'Reilly for four years, NO PROBLEM. She gets raises, no PROBLEM.

She comes back, and suddenly in 2 months time, we have an issue?



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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:31 PM
On September 29, 2004, however, Defendant Morelli, Mackris's attorney, sent a letter to several executives of Fox and News Corp which is attached as Exhibit C. Morelli stated in his letter that he represented a Fox employee who was allegedly being harassed by "one of Fox's most prominent on-air personalities." Although he did not identify O'Reilly or Mackris by name in the letter, Morelli wrote that he and the Fox employee were then prepared to sue Plaintiffs, and therefore a settlement discussion would be in Plaintiffs' best interests because the lawsuit "would be extremely damaging to both Fox's reputation and the reputation of the individual involved."


There's more to it, but that's the genesis of the extortion threat. I'm still reading the countersuit.



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mikeyboy
10-23-2004, 07:32 PM
From April 2000 through January 2004, Fox employed Mackris as an Associate Producer on The O'Reilly Factor, a cable television news show hosted by O'Reilly. O'Reilly and Mackris maintained a good and productive working relationship for the almost four years of her initial employment. She even stayed on after saying in 2002 that she intended to leave Fox for a higher-paying job unless O'Reilly and Fox agreed to increase her compensation, which they did. Then in January 2004, Mackris ultimately decided to leave the show to accept an even higher-paying position with CNN, Fox's major competitor. A few months after leaving Fox, however, Mackris spoke with O'Reilly and expressed unhappiness with her new job at CNN. She said that her boss at CNN had been terminated for sexual harassment, and asked O'Reilly if she could return to The O'Reilly Factor at the higher salary she then earned at CNN. Mackris returned to Fox in July 2004 as an Associate Producer for The O'Reilly Factor at a salary of $93,200.



So let me get this straight - she works for O'Reilly for four years, NO PROBLEM. She gets raises, no PROBLEM.

She comes back, and suddenly in 2 months time, we have an issue?


And why not? I'm not saying she's in the right, but I have a problem with you deciding that you know the facts. Maybe O'Reilly felt he did her a favor by bringing her back and thought he had a little leverage.

edit: by leverage, I mean, wink, wink, you know.

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Tenbatsuzen
10-23-2004, 07:34 PM
Fox and News Corp representatives spoke with and met several times with Morelli and his associate, David S. Ratner. Mackris attended one of the meetings. At those meetings and during telephone conversations, Defendants demanded $60 million in hush money to keep quiet and never once lowered this outrageous, extortionate demand. At one of the meetings, Morelli allowed the Fox and News Corp representatives to read a draft of a harassment complaint ("the draft complaint") that he threatened to file on Mackris's behalf. The draft complaint contained several lengthy block quotes of statements that O'Reilly allegedly made to Mackris. The length of the quotes and the specific verbiage used made it appear that Mackris was taping O'Reilly during the conversations. Morelli, though, refused to permit the Fox and News Corp representatives to have a copy of the complete draft complaint, providing them only with an excerpt.

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HBox
10-23-2004, 07:35 PM
In Mackris' lawsuit she says that O'Reilly agreed he would stop the lewd conduct when she returned to Fox News from CNN. I don't know if that's true or not, but neither does Tenbats, so we're gonna get nowhere.

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Doctor Manhattan
10-26-2004, 04:35 AM
This "scandal" is very lame. Unless tapes come out and Bill sounds like he's wackin' it with a vibrator, then I'm not going to care.

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Doctor Manhattan
10-29-2004, 04:36 AM
Fifteen Questions
By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, May 06, 2004

To Michael Jackson: Do you feel silly?


Bill, Do you feel silly now? You said Michael Jackson had to be guilty. Why would an innocent man settle out of court? Isn't that what you said?

Fucking douchebag

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Tenbatsuzen
10-29-2004, 06:00 AM
Bill, Do you feel silly now? You said Michael Jackson had to be guilty. Why would an innocent man settle out of court? Isn't that what you said?

Fucking douchebag



One, what Michael Jackson is accused of and what Bill O'Reilly is accused of are two separate and grossly differing crimes. Just because both are sexually related does NOT lump them in the same group.

Two, just because the suit is being settled does not make O'Reilly in the wrong or in the right. The Fox countersuit is being settled at the same time. That does not put Mackris in the wrong or in the right.

No one can explain why Mackris didn't hang up the phone. No one can explain why Mackris didn't say stop. No one has even heard if tapes exist.



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Tenbatsuzen
10-29-2004, 06:05 AM
This "scandal" is very lame. Unless tapes come out and Bill sounds like he's wackin' it with a vibrator, then I'm not going to care.






fucking douchebag



Wow, sounds like you care a LOT.

Hypocrite.



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Doctor Manhattan
10-29-2004, 06:24 AM
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I'd be a Hypocrite if I told you guys not to care and then went on with it. I guess I'm a big fat liar. I do care.

Well, not so much that I care but I'd love to hear the tapes, and now I'm sure there are nice juicy tapes.


One, what Michael Jackson is accused of and what Bill O'Reilly is accused of are two separate and grossly differing crimes. Just because both are sexually related does NOT lump them in the same group.

Two, just because the suit is being settled does not make O'Reilly in the wrong or in the right. The Fox countersuit is being settled at the same time. That does not put Mackris in the wrong or in the right.


One, I didn't lump their crimes in the same group. I'm just pointing out that Bill is a Hypocrite. He said Jackson must be guilty since he settled out of court instead of fighting it in court which is what a truly innocent man would do. Then he does the same thing.

Bill puts himself in the position of telling people how to live. And in his private life he doesn't follow his own advice. That is my problem with Bill.

Two, he stated that there was no wrong doing from either party. I though it was a "no spin zone"! someone had to be in the wrong, they both filed suits against each other. Someone did something wrong.



No one can explain why Mackris didn't hang up the phone. No one can explain why Mackris didn't say stop. No one has even heard if tapes exist.


Well I said on this thread when the story broke on October 13th:


Wait a sec, all this is over the phone? Why didn't she hang up, block the call and report Bill to his boss? He doesn't own foxnews. I hate to support Bill, I hope there's more to this.


If there are no tapes, then there is some other evidence. It didn't sound like she had much of a case up to this point, why would he settle?

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Snoogans
10-29-2004, 06:28 AM
i gotta give it to SKW on this. i never heard the michael jackson comment, but as soon as i heard that billy boy settled, i knew he did it, especially after vowing to fight this to the bitter end when it came out.
any news on how much he settled for, cause thats usually pretty telling as well

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10-29-2004, 06:36 AM
Time for a little rant.

First, a ton of you in this thread were doing a little schaefrude (sp, whatever) because you don't like O'Reilly. Your sole sticking point? Because he likes to have his ass played with.

BIG FUCKING DEAL.

We live in a world where the funniest guy on radio today likes to have hookers shit on his chest. If you're so shocked and appalled that a hetero man can like having his prostate tickled, you seriously need to realize that most people are freaks and they will NOT talk about what kind of things get them off.



I don't have a problem with Bill being a freak. I don't have a problem with him being horny. I don't have a problem with Bill liking Ass-play.

My problem is that people whose career is telling people how to live should live by their own standards (the one's they portray)

Norton likes Golden Showers and Cleveland Steamers. He doesn't tell people that they have to engage in that activity.

I'm also pissed that we don't have the tapes to make fun of yet. :p

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10-29-2004, 06:41 AM
AH HAHAHAHAHAHA O'Rielly!!!

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A.J.
10-29-2004, 06:42 AM
We live in a world where the funniest guy on radio today likes to have hookers shit on his chest.


Hey, if Ronnie is into that, that's HIS business. It don't make him a bad person. ;)


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