NHL Lock Out

[Crippler]

It's no surprise (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=98791&hubName=nhl), but until last night it wasn't official.

Bummer.

Also, for anyone who can't get AM radio reception in the office, Commissioner Betman will be on the air here (http://www.fan590.com/) to discuss the topic any minute now.

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[JesterOfSadness]

Damnit

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[reeshy]

That really sucks the royal Moose..dammit!!!

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[El Mudo]

Man this really sucks.....And its even worse I didnt see this topic up before i posted my own....

I can't really say I have beef with either side, I mean I can understand the players not wanting a salary cap, and I can understand the owners being in a bad financial situation...

*sigh* this just makes an awful day even more awfuler..


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[Crippler]

I wonder if this (http://www.detnews.com/2004/wings/0408/16/b04-237600.htm) will actually get off the ground. Or, more importantly, if it will get any TV coverage to give me my hockey fix in the coming months.

Oh no...I'm thinking of a February without hockey! Nothing but pro & college basketball (which I loathe), and baseball anticipation....
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[badorties]

tough break for hockey fans ... and a huge mess for the league, could take years before it becomes a healthy, viable entity ...


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[furie]

hockey needs a salary cap. the teams need to save revenue.


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[Iamnotatool]

Hockey? What's that?


Is that the dance? You do the hockey-pockey and you turn yourself about...

I love that song.




Hockey sucks

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[Mike Teacher]

Get the Hanson Brothers.

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[AppleBoy]

The AHL and ECHL will still be playing. It's not the same but it's better than no hockey. If the lock out goes on for too long, I'll probably take in a few Trenton Titans or Philadelphia Phantoms games. Maybe even a Bears game out in Hershey, too.


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Commissioner Batman? I didn't know that Commissioner Gordon finally consummated his gay love for Batman with a legal ceremony.

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[monsterone]

wow is mojo is busy man.

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[TheGameHHH]

this really sucks................i'm so profound

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[Heather 8]

Get the Hanson Brothers.


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[JesterOfSadness]

nevermind

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[monsterone]

why are they called the hanson brothers when they have that cute lil sister?

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[Johnny Fontane]

They should just show reruns of random games from last season, and no one will know the difference.

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[mdr55]

So what's the odds on who's going to win the Stanley Cup this year in Vegas??

[furie]

They should just show reruns of random games from last season, and no one will know the difference.


sadly, that would work.


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[Snoogans]

this is bullshit man, i dont say this often, but this one is all on the players. Greedy pricks, open your eyes and youll see the league cant do what you want and survive. the players were basically asking for a deal that would end hockey in 2 years for good.

maybe now they will smarten up. i never thought id say this, ever, but good for you Gary Betman

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[mdr55]

Damn lock out!!! :mad:

Can't we all just get along?

[Fallon]

I'm hoping to see a couple Providence Bruins games this season.

Fucking NHL.

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[Crippler]

Hey, look, the Rangers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-rangers-cheerleaderlawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns) are still making news, even during the lockout.


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[El Mudo]

Actually...maybe the lockout is a good thing in hindsight....

Stat of the Day: My Caps only have 11 PLAYERS IN THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION that were born before 1980.....

not just the team proper....THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, Portland etc...


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[fluffernutter]

They should just show reruns of random games from last season, and no one will know the difference.


They are airing Hungry For Hockey down here in Philly on CSN. Old Flyers games (1974 Stanley Cup Game 2 vs. the Bruins now) with hockey related cooking tips in between periods. Damn is it nice to hear Gene Hart again. What a voice he had.

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[Iamnotatool]

Hockey sucks donkey sausage.

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[MHasegawa]

They should replay that one Ranger game last season where Roenick got his jaw broken. Or the 1987 finals where they lost to Edmonton. =)

Who is Karim Garcia?? I no respect heem.
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[AppleBoy]

I would have been to two Devils games by now. Thanks for nothing guys. :(

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[fluffernutter]

Or the 1987 finals where they lost to Edmonton.


That was on ESPN Classic a few months ago and that one hit me harder than the Cup game cause I remember where I was and what I was doing when I was watching that game. Still one of the greatest games I have ever seen.

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[AppleBoy]

The All-Star Game just got cancelled. Doesn't look too good for the rest of the season.

I'm thinking of going to the Phantoms-Bears game in Philly tomorrow night just out of need. It's usually a good match up anyway.

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[AppleBoy]

Hall of Fame inductions were yesterday. Larry Murphy, Ray Bourque, Paul Coffey and Cliff Fletcher got in. Kind of like a tree falling in the middle of the woods.....

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[MHasegawa]

Yeah, and I doubt this new WHA will get started by the planned time of early 2005.

Who is Karim Garcia?? I no respect heem.
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[TheGameHHH]

Why is it the players refuse to have a cap in the NHL, yet they'll go over to Europe and play for a fraction of the price?

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[Fallon]

Congratulations to my favorite athlete of all time!

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[furie]

anyone want to take bets on the 2005/2006 season?


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[WindowSill]

NHL will only agree to a salary cap, expected to reject the Unions proposal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1945492)


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[furie]

kiss this season good bye


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[Crippler]

The greedy fuckers smell blood & now they just fucked the season, and perhaps the NHL as we know it.

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[Justice4all]

The fact that the players were willing to roll back their salaries 24%, which is HUGE, shows their commitment to wanting to settle this and resume playing.

Now the owners and Gary Bettman (that fucking rat) are showing their true colors.
I hope they all fucking die in a fiery crash and the NHL comes back with new and wiser owners.
This is rediculous.

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[TheGameHHH]

I really think the players made a valient effort to try and start the league up again. This shit is all on the owners now.

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[furie]

24% is only a short-term solution, that would postpone the league's folding by a couple of years.


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[TheGameHHH]

It would only postpone the league's folding because the owner's would outspend themselves again, not the players.

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[keithy_19]

Yea. It saves only for a few eyars, during those few years you work on another agreement. It's a solution and Gary Bettman can go sucka camles dick and choke on the cum.

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[furie]

then what's your solution? and if there is another answer, why not work it out now rather then go through this in a couple of years? this year is shot anyway.


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[Crippler]

As the days fly by, and we rapidly approach (probably have already passed) the point of no return for this NHL season...apparently one angry fan has found a way to vent his hockey frustration, and make a little cash (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=111255) off the deal.

I would really want one of these if I didn't DETEST those friggin ribbon magnets already.

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[Fallon]

I guess I won't be able to see the Bruins lose in the first round again.

After football is over it's going to be real fucking boring until spring training. :(

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[MHasegawa]

It'll be a message to David Stern to let him know how boring the NBA is.

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[El Mudo]

They are airing Hungry For Hockey down here in Philly on CSN. Old Flyers games (1974 Stanley Cup Game 2 vs. the Bruins now) with hockey related cooking tips in between periods. Damn is it nice to hear Gene Hart again. What a voice he had.



Don't forget about the immortal Fred Shero!!

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The Russians got so upset with how physical the Flyers were being and what they felt was poor officiating and just decided to leave. In the middle of the game...they just left...the game was delayed like a half an hour until they were convinced to come back out...

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[Crippler]

I know these guys (http://www.freestanley.com/mission.html) won't succeed in getting the NHL to hand over the cup, but the idea would be nice if for no other reason than to force ESPN to televise some form of hockey this year.

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[mdr55]

Is there a hockey game Sunday at the garden? My boy TJ says he got tix near the goal. But when I told him that their on strike he said that it was a benefit put on together by devils and ranger players. I still don't believe him.

[Crippler]

The original NHL Schedule had the Rangers facing the Devils this Thursday at the Garden, and the Flyers on Sunday.

But as far as I know, which I will grant you is not much, there is nothing NHL/hockey-related going on anytime in the near future except for a meeting today between league officials & the players association. And all I expect to see come out of that meeting is the official ending of the season. But, then again, I'm not exactly Johnny Sunshine.

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[Kevin]

look at the bright side. Rangers still have not lost a game and its almost feb.

Lumbergh Fucked Her.

[Crippler]

After leaking cautiously optimistic rumors that "this whole ugly mess will be put to bed by Friday," it now looks like Friday's news will be less than positive (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1983362). I'm so pissed.

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[keithy_19]

Ugh. I hate it so much. Fuckers.

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[Fallon]

Very sad. I love hockey and I'm pissed as well.

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[TheGameHHH]

I just don't want this to carry over into next season.

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[Kevin]

At least there is some hope (http://msgnetwork.com/content_news.jsp?articleID=v170602-03-05-1802EST&newsgroup=ap.sportsml.ice-hockey.nhl.news&sports=ice-hockey&team=other&league=nhl)

NEW YORK (AP) -- One day after the NHL players' association rejected the league's latest salary-cap proposal, the sides met again in what might have been the last chance to save the hockey season.

The union invited commissioner Gary Bettman and players' association chief Bob Goodenow back to the table Thursday after the leaders sat out the previous five sessions during a two-week span. The meeting began around 1:30 p.m. and was still going on more than seven hours later.



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[mdr55]

Go SENS GO!!!

[Crippler]

Is this one last breath of hope (http://www.sabresinsider.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=31&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0), or just a breath post-mortem?

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[Fallon]

28 game season? I guess it's better than nothing, but whoever wins the cup wouldn't feel fulfilled afterwards.

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[Crippler]

True...and unless they were to cut the number of teams that make the playoffs, there would be teams making the cut with less regular season wins than it takes to win the cup. But I say fuck it, I want my hockey.

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rumor has it they're calling it today. Greedy bastards

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[Crippler]

This was just posted on another (all sports) message board that I frequent:
I JUST HEARD ON 1050 RADIO

March 1, 24 game season. The guys from 10-1pm said they got a call from an exec who works for a hockey team within the 50 mile radius of NYC.
I don't listen to ESPN Radio...anyone else hear this or know if they are just fucking with their audience?

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Oh well. so much for that.... (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=113764&hubName=nhl)
The NHL and the NHL Players' Association met from 11 a.m. EST and ended talks around 3 p.m. EST. NHLPA Executive Director Bob Goodenow said afterwards that no progress was made in the past two days and his negotiating group is on its way back to Toronto.

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[furie]

So what was the deal they worked out?


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[badorties]

no deal ... the parties said 'they'll keep in touch'



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[keithy_19]

Fuck the owners, fuck Gary Bettman, fuck ESPN for their bullshit reporting. Mother fuckign fuckers fucking UGHHHHq!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

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[TheGameHHH]

A while back I was angered at the owners for rejecting what I thought was a valiant effort by the players, now though I'm siding with the owners. I think through this process the owners have now made a reasonable offer that the players should have accepted.

And once again Bill Simmons wrote another hysterical article over on ESPN.com, this recent one deals directly with the NHL lockout, go check it out if you have some time.

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[Kevin]

This is a bunch of fucking Garbage Why should their be a fucking cap? Here is a novel idea. DO NOT PAY THEM SO MUCH. Stop paying the Holiks of the world 40mil. Why should the players have to pay because the owners are dumb as dog shit? same thing with baseball. what happened last year? The owners did not pay the players a lot. And contracts went down. Vlad got 75milWhat would he gotten this year? even if he still had concerns of a bad back. at least 100mil. Vasquez who at the time was known as one of the best young sp out there got 40. And what happened this year? The fucking owners went buck wild again. Arizona who was crying poverty for years went nuts and played players a ton. Beltran is not near the player that vlad is and he got 119mil. the cap is bullshit. get a hold of yourselves and stop overpaying for players. Then the prices will go down and no cap would be needed. I'm sick and tired of owners wanting a cap because they can't control themselves. An yes the yanks Spend a ton. But last time I checked. They haven't won since 2000And What about the Rangers? They are God Awful every year. except for Bos this year. All the teams that have won have had low payrolls. I think the cap is bullshit and will always think that.

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[furie]

Why should their be a fucking cap? Here is a novel idea. DO NOT PAY THEM SO MUCH.


that IS a cap. reducing payrolls across the board=cap.


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[Kevin]

Yea Furie. Thats the point. and except for the NFL where else has a cap worked? In the NBA unless u really luck out and get a Shaq or Duncan James MJ ect. You really do not have a shot. So many teams are so much in the hole that they can not compeat. And it hurts the leauge. Its really boaring to watch.

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[Snoogans]

plus you need a cap. for one, its not like a few teams lose money. 75% of the league loses money.

2, owners make money by winning. without a cap, they make dumb decisions blinded by winning. IE going out and giving alot of money to a guy because you need him to win, and cause someone else will beat you if you dont get him.
with a cap, you dont have to worry because the other teams cant out spend you, so you can keep salaries low.

the reason they cant get a deal is cause there is no middle ground, there is either a cap or no cap. though both sides are suspect, i gotta lay this on the players. they are rejecting this cause they know they wont make as much money in a couple years, and instead of being smart and investing money, they wanna blow it like idiots

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[TheGameHHH]

In the NBA unless u really luck out and get a Shaq or Duncan James MJ ect. You really do not have a shot.

tell that to the Pistons.

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[Snoogans]

Yea Furie. Thats the point. and except for the NFL where else has a cap worked? In the NBA unless u really luck out and get a Shaq or Duncan James MJ ect.


it works fine in basketball when your owner isnt a fuckin idiot like Dolan.

and you cant compare the NFL's cap to the NBA's cause they are completely different, this is an assanine statement

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[Kevin]

If i would go for a cap.it has to be a hard cap. if the NBA had a hard cap the Knicks would not be in nearly as bad as they are now. And the Piston was like once in what 10 years? The owners still make stupid Moves Snoogs cap or no cap. You have players making Max money who have no business making it.

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[Snoogans]

Im not arguing that at all, but with a cap, at least those stupid moves are controlled, where as without them you get 90 million dollar 10th place payrolls like the rangers. you cant lose as much money if you cant spend as much, no matter how dumb you spend it

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[Kevin]

Yea i do admit you do make good points. But what i mean is in every negotiations the owners are always the "Good guys" i just think its bs. They should not need the cap to control themselvs. But yea you make good points. I guess they are to stupid to work without one

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[Snoogans]

you do need a cap though, cause its about winning. if you dont have a cap, its kind of an owners job to go overspend on a guy for a year to try to win. thats what you want, with no cap, thats what they cant control. tryin to buy a season of winning. with a cap, you dont have to worry about other teams doin that, so you dont have to do it yourself.

its not that any given owner cant control himself, he just has to compete with other owners, and it gets to a bidding war. Cap, you cant do that and lose as much money. the NHL loses so much money that the owners are right, they ABSOLUTELY NEED A CAP

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[Kevin]

Yea i was listening to Sommers last night and he said an owner said. If they played under this system he would lose 13mil if they do not play at all he loses 10-11 mil. Thats nuts

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[Snoogans]

the devils, one of the best franchises the past 5 years, had a team salaray under 45 mill every year. they want the cap around 40, i dont know why its such a big deal.

and Lou Lammorello also said for the devils to not lose money, they have to make it to the stanley cup finals. just to break even, with one of the lower payrolls and best records in the league

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[Kevin]

Hockey is a very special situation. With the Cananda US exchange. The Can teams just get killed. So yea in Hockey a cap is def needed.

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[Snoogans]

too many teams in too many not hockey places.

also the flood a few years back of teams leaving canada for the aforementioned cheaper US for business, it hurt a large part of hockey's major fan base, Canada

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[Snoogans]

AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU MOVE A TEAM FROM MINNISOTA TO DALLAS

what the fuck are you thinkin. or here is a good one, lets leave winnipeg and move to fuckin Pheonix. yea they fuckin love hockey in arizona.

THEY CANT EVEN SELL OUT FOOTBALL GAMES

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[Kevin]

Do not forget that great Hockey Town The Carolina's Snoogs. The just Love their Hockey in ol Tabacci road

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[Snoogans]

yea but i can understand that because Hartford is a fuckin dump. id move my team to goddamn lincoln nebraska to get outta there

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[TheGameHHH]

Sadly now the hockey world is waiting for the players to cave. Didn't Roenick (sp?) recently say the players would be willing to accept some form of cap? I just don't know in what form and how much.

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[Kevin]

There had to have been a better place than Carolina.

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[Kevin]

The prob Game is that Neither Goodnow or whatever his name is or Bettman can Fold right now. Or its their ass. So unless either the owners or the players revolt nothing is gunna happen.

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[Snoogans]

the players want a soft type cap, which as shown by NBA, is basically in effective. everyone just starts that sign and trade bullshit and it all becomes irrelevant, just like the Knicks. The Knicks are so far over im suprised they let them sign coaches.

its fuckin sad the state hockey is in. its the best sport in my opinion, basketball pace, football hits, baseball hand eye, and oh yea your fuckin skating.

too bad so many people must be blind and cant "follow the puck on tv"

Here's a clue, ITS THE LITTLE BLACK THING MOVING ACROSS THE BIG PATCH OF WHITE

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[TheGameHHH]

This whole thing honestly breaks my heart, hockey is easily my favorite sport too Snoogs. But something is seriously fucked up when owners lose less money when the league doesn't play.

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[Snoogans]

what i really think is goin to happen, is somehow, the NHL will find a way to get Impass, meaning they can use replacements.

if that happens, 75% of the NHL players will cross the line, cause alot of those young guys do need the money.

I dont care what they come up with, all im worried about is that they get lazy with it now cause the season is done, and then have to do this again next year instead of figuring it out in like may and Definately having a next year

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[Snoogans]

But something is seriously fucked up when owners lose less money when the league doesn't play.


unfortunately, such is the trend now a days.

shit even around here, the nets would lose less money if they didnt play. thats how sad its getting for basketball and hockey. the talent pools are stretched, not enough people care about hockey, no one is goin to college and shit and learning how to play.

its all fuckin 18 year olds now, and im sorry to say, but for the most part it makes for shitty games and people dont wanna watch it

ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA OR TEXAS

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[Kevin]

Its sad beacuse it "seems" That my Rangers finaly moved into the right direction. They Traded alot of old players and got good young tallent. Also i heard that this dude that they are comparing to Gretzky is supposed to come out. My question is how the fuck are they gunna set the draft order if there is no season?

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[Snoogans]

yea but they did that cause they knew that they were gonna have a cap soon or not play, and needed to dump salary to not end up like the knicks

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[Kevin]

I think the cap would be the best thing that has ever happend to the rangers.

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[TheGameHHH]

It's just rough for me because the Devils were literally the first sports team I can remember rooting for (then Notre Dame and the Yankees). So watching a team go from dead last, and being labeled a "Mickey Mouse franchise" by Gretzsky, to Champions was the single greatest sports moment I've ever witnessed in person.

I really don't like the idea of replacement players, it makes me feel like the league is second rate and almost pointless.

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[Snoogans]

i dont like the idea of replacement players playing, but i love the idea of it being implimented if it causes the players to give and just come back. it seems that might be the only way to do that at this point. 1994 strike didnt help hockey, and it never really got back from that and now this is just horrible.

Im thinkin now more about whether hockey can survive after they do come back. NO ONE IS GONNA BE THERE

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[TheGameHHH]

I know, nobody has even thought about the after effects this will have on the sport. Remember how bad baseball was? I'm still convinced the only thing that truley "saved" baseball was McGuire/Sosa. I don't see something like that happening in hockey, this sport might just be doomed no matter what.

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[Kevin]

Ehhh Snoogs Hockey is really a special Sport. If your a die hard fan like Me,You and Game seems to be. You will watch no matter what. And if the team wins you will get your frontrunners that will go and watch. Hockey has such special hardcore fans that i really do not think it will compleatly die out. Yea game. They have to change the rules. Make it wide open and really pump up the scoring in order to get back the casual fan.

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[Snoogans]

Remember how bad baseball was? I'm still convinced the only thing that truley "saved" baseball was McGuire/Sosa.


yea gee i wonder why that happened?
baseball i never worried about, i know about 10000 people who said they would never watch baseball again who are right now, as avid a fan as anyone. hokcey never even got saved, thats why they might just be done in the form we knew it.



Ehhh Snoogs Hockey is really a special Sport. If your a die hard fan like Me,You and Game seems to be. You will watch no matter what


you're right, and obviously, thats not enough, as we see. so those fringe fans, the ones that stop watching cause of this kinda shit, is needed to keep leagues doin well. thats why baseball was fine. so many kids play it that once it was back, fringe fans were like well its still baseball.
there are ZERO of those kinda fans for hockey

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[Kevin]

I think this sport can be such a fucking beautiful and fun sport to watch if they open it up. And im not knocking Your Devs Snoogs cuz im a Ranger fan But they really kinda started his shit with that Nutral Zone trap. Which worked great but grinded the sport to a hault.

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[TheGameHHH]

I don't care if it brought the sport to a halt it won us our first Cup, and it was glorious.

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[Snoogans]

dont gimmie that trap bullshit.

that was like 95 shit, they havent used the trap in awhile. they dont have to they have some of the best skating defensmen in the league.

the reason scoring stayed down after the trap faded is cause too many teams means too many guys suck now, they cant even score on shitty goalies. why do you think you get shitty goalies making allstar games like Jim Carey and those kinda tools

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[Kevin]

Cant argue with the genius of it. It worked to perfection

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[TheGameHHH]

they dont have to they have some of the best skating defensmen in the league.

Neidermeyer IS the best skating defensemen in the league.


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[Kevin]

somthing really has to be done to get more scoring into it.

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[Snoogans]

neidermeyer is a top 5 skater in the entire league probably, but i was also including refalski and some of the younger guys they had playing last year.

and i obviously was NOT talkin about tommy abelin

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[Snoogans]

somthing really has to be done to get more scoring into it.


take out the fuckin red line

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[TheGameHHH]

Rafalski is very good as well. But their whole defense crew is good, not even just in terms of skating. Colin White, Paul Martin, DAMNIT. I just realized this lockout will pretty much guarentte Stevens is hanging them up.

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[Snoogans]

cant blame him, possibly the best hitter ever and definately one of the best defensmen over the last decade.

after this whole deal, it kinda makes you wonder who else from around the league will be gone, guys like Hull and the like.
and the classiest of classy stevie Y

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[TheGameHHH]

or even worse yet, what guys will stick around even though they should have retired after this season was over?

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[Kevin]

Prob Mess also. he is about 75. Chelios

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[Snoogans]

i hope messier comes back so someone can break his hip

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[TheGameHHH]

I too hope for a Messier hip fracture......or death, whichever one is more painful.

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[Kevin]

Yea yea your just mad beacuse he made you his bitch.

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[Snoogans]

you think lemieux's dumbass will try to play again?

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[Snoogans]

blah blah, the only reason you won that game is cause fetisov decided instead of hitting mattaeu, he was just gonna slide into brodeur

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[TheGameHHH]

I will forever hate that man for guarentting a victory, then throwing up a hat trick to seal the deal.

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[TheGameHHH]

Mario is a perfect example of what I was just talking about, somebody who should have retired a long time ago but for some reason he just refuses to and instead plays 30 games a season.

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[TheGameHHH]

Looks like there's going to be another desperate attempt to save the season before they want to cancel it for good on Tuesday.

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[furie]

somthing really has to be done to get more scoring into it.



get rid of the big guy in front of the net. and let's change everything about the sport to make it more tv friendly for people with short attention spans.


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[Snoogans]

you dont need more scoring, you dont need more action. action is the reason most people claim they cant follow the puck.

what do you need for more hockey fans, A GODDAMN LEAGUE.

at this point i dont care what they gain, lose, agree on, just play some fuckin hockey

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[Fallon]

action is the reason most people claim they cant follow the puck.
The glow puck didn't attract new fans.

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[mdr55]

action is the reason most people claim they cant follow the puck.
The glow puck didn't attract new fans.


Yeah! I went to a hockey game expecting to see the "glowing puck" and I didn't see crap. Talk about false advertising.



Even if they try to have a season, I'm not going to a game unless they lower some of the ticket prices this season to "LURE" what fans they have left back to the game.

[Snoogans]

i wont go to another hockey game until lower level tickets go back under 70 bucks. i used to get an upper bowl tick for the Devs for like 10-14, now they are like 40

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[Crippler]

It's all over but the shouting. Holy crap, the owners even gave in (kinda) on the "salary cap or nothing" stance & the players' association still turned down the latest proposal (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=114287).

But at least they had the guts to finally set a deadline for this weekend to get a deal done on paper or call the season off.

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[Snoogans]

some big legal advisor for the NHL is about to speak at a PC following a 4 hour talk. im assuming this will say the season is canceled, either that or they reached an agreement (HA)

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[Crippler]

It's actually NHL Executive VP/Chief Legal Officer Bill Daly. He's conducting a media availability today at 4 p.m. ET at the NHL Office in Toronto. You can listen to a live audio stream of the press conference by following this link. (http://www.nhlcbanews.com/)

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[Snoogans]

nice Cripps

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[Snoogans]

is that stan fischler doin the Int?

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[Snoogans]

he called todays meeting a "pointless meeting"

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[Ronnie_Dobbs]

That was Stan on the first call. The best question was by Alan Hahn of Newsday, who brought up the 200% luxury tax. Its a no-win situation & I don't know which way the courts will side.

[Crippler]

Well, if you want the transcript of the 45 minute conference, it goes something like this:

"Blah, blah, blah, players bad! Blah, blah, blah, making no progress. Blah, blah, blah, not ready to call the season yet. Blah, blah, blah, soon though. Blah, blah, blah, PLAYERS BAD!"

I'm not saying it wasn't nice for him to take the questions, nor am I saying that the NHL is wrong. But at this point they've made the players look like absolute fools and there's nothing left to say but:
(a) This season's done...and our next meetings won't be until September where we will continue to get nothing accomplished & fuck up next year too.
or
(b) We've come to an agreement & here's when the first game will be played.

Just stop pulling our dicks already.

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[mdr55]

HA! No one cares about hockey. It's over.




So what happens to this years draft??




This blows.

[Fallon]

No league, no draft.

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[Snoogans]

yea that sucks, cause they had me goin mid to late 3rd round

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[Crippler]

How would you like to be Nicklas Bergfors...just about a lock for #1 overall in the draft? And now you're in limbo.

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[Fallon]

Chris Bourque just won the Beanpot in OT. Nice to see a Bourque on fleetcenter ice again.

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[Snoogans]

What is this Hockey you speak of?


get used to hearing that

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[AppleBoy]

As much as I'd like to see the Devils and the rest of the NHL back on the ice, I wish they'd shit or get off the pot already. How much you want to bet they push the deadline for calling off the season back another weekend?

Even if they do have an abbreviated season, I have my doubts about the quality of play even though they are the best players in the world and keep themselves in shape year round.

When they get around to calling the season off, I hope they keep the talks going instead of taking the summer off and starting up again in September like everyone expects them to.

Until the big league gets back in action, I'll just be happy that the AHL and ECHL are still playing.

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[Crippler]

A news story (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2005/02/02/918110-cp.html) out of Canada is reporting that a small group of players begged/forced the NHLPA to come to the table with an offer that included some kind of cap. They did, at $52 million, and the league rejected it. The league's last offer put the cap at $40 million.

Therefore it is now, moreso than ever, strictly an issue of money. Only now we can put a number to it...exactly $12 million. If these stubborn jackasses can't come up with a way to split a difference of $12 million, they deserve to die the slow death they'e been crawling towards for the past 152 days.

There is a press conference scheduled for 1pm tomorrow where it is expected that the season will be put mercifully out of its' misery. But this latest story continues to give hockey fans just the smallest modicum of hope.

I'll be hopeful somewhere deep down in the cockles of my heart, but come 1pm tomorrow my realistic side still expects we'll be saying... (http://home.comcast.net/~jdspe5150/lonelymantheme.mp3)
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[gypsy]

Who cares, it's hockey.

[keithy_19]

I don't get the hatred of the sport. It's the fastest most physcial sport out there today. Yet, people complain about it and say how it's so boring. If you say hockey is boring, then so is football, and basketball.

God damn this is infuriating em beyond reason.

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[mdr55]

Ugh!!! Now I'll never see my beloved Ottawa Senators play. Thanks for nothing.

[Iamnotatool]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

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[Fallon]

Boooo. Betmans press conference is going on now. The NHLPA's is at 4pm.

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[TheGameHHH]

I guess on the bright side we won't have a shortened season where any team like the Bruins could come in and win the cup.

In all seriousness hockey is my second favorite sport behind baseball, it saddens me this had to go down the way it did. The sport was suffering enough as it is, and the repercussions from this could be devestating. Maybe the players will turn to 'roids and the game will get exciting and win it's fans back next year.

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[Fallon]

I guess on the bright side we won't have a shortened season where any team like the Bruins could come in and win the cup.
I would have been pissed if they won the cup on a shortened season. Wouldn't mean much.

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[Crippler]

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So sad...

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You're an asshole. But this will make it all the more entertaining when the NBA's CBA expires this summer & neither sport is playing next October.

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[Fallon]

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[JPMNICK]

I was thinking last night they could have a season if they just wanted to do playoffs. Just let every team in kind of like college B-Ball. What is there liek 32 teams? Start best of 5 series. Random draw for seeding. They can stretch this out another few weeks and still do this plan since hockey lasts until fucking june or something.

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[TheGameHHH]

I would have been pissed if they won the cup on a shortened season. Wouldn't mean much.

Yea I know, I was just busting on ya Fallon.....we can't have Boston win everything.

The Devils won their first cup in a shortened season though they managed to play more games than this season would have been. I'll tell you one thing though, it felt just as sweet as if we'd won it during a regular length season.


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[Snoogans]

i was kinda hoping we had a shortened season so the devils could win and get there other half cup to be even

and yes, it felt just as sweet

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[AppleBoy]

As much as I'd like to see them play, I'm glad they made the announcement to cancel the season instead of stringing it along for a few more weeks.

Then again, EJ Hradek said on SportsCenter that both sides were beginning to fully realize what a huge mistake they were making and continued to talk today with the possibility of a deal being struck and the decision to cancel the season being reversed. Who knows?

Until they can make up their minds, I'm looking forward to the Frozen Four and a few AHL games.

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[mdr55]

There might be hope.

[furie]

There might be hope.



based on what?


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[Kevin]

Meeting tonight. Players are saying basically F goodnow and negotiating themselves.

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[Bulldogcakes]

I'm so glad I'm not a big NHL guy.
Because if I was, I'd feel SO jerked around right now.

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[TheGameHHH]

Apparently Saskin was on a plane earlier today on his way to NYC with a proposal that the owners will be presented with and accept by Sunday. Here's to hope!

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[fluffernutter]

...and so now Gretzky (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2005/02/02/918110-cp.html) is trying like hell to help get something done. I sure hope. I just got some fight DVD of the Flyers, Bruins and Canadiens to tide me over. I LOVE the sport, yes I do, but I love the old school 70's fights.

If there is a shortened season I would hate to see a full playoffs because it wouldn't seem right. 25 game season and then the Top 16 in? Maybe something like the Top 8 and only 3 rounds of the playoffs. It would seem so much cheaper any other way.

My little complaints about the NHL today:

The Expansion killed things. What right does Florida, Carolina, Arizona and Tennessee have to have a HOCKEY team? Sure there may be some fans in those states but to rape Winnipeg, Minnesota and Hartford of their teams was the biggest injustice. Isn't Minnesota a hockey hotbed? Crazy. Quebec leaving for Colorado was just a shame. Sure, Colorado fits for hockey but to pull a team from Quebec was just nuts. Especially to have them win the Cup the first year in Denver. If the Nordiques would have stayed no WAY would Patrick Roy have ever gone to Quebec. The Nordiques and Canadiens had such a brutal rivalry. I still can't believe that Guy LaFleur played in Quebec one season after he was with the Rangers. That was just so odd to see.

Expansion in "non-hockey" type towns failed miserably in the 1970's where Cleveland and Kansas City couldn't hold a team for more than 2 years. I think they both wound up merging with the North Stars. I don't see how it could last much longer in Columbus, Miami, Tampa, Charlotte, Nashville or even Atlanta all over again.

As far as hockey being a little bit boring these days, I blame the Devils with all their clutch and grab and keeping it to a 2 - 1 score. Hey, it got them a few cups, great and it was something that worked for you guys. But damn, the whole leauge took notice (as I guess teams do when they see something work) and it's a more boring sport than it was say 20 years ago. Man I hate the trap. I blame too the goalies looking like Michelin men in the net. How much bigger can your pads get boys?

AND the most important thing, what to do with the Stanley Cup. Didn't Lord Stanley want the trophy to go to the best team at the end of the season? So if there is no NHL and last I checked the NHL doesn't "own" the Cup, would the AHL Calder Cup winner get it or would there be some kind of a tournament of the best of North America vs. the best of Europe?


So watching a team go from dead last, and being labeled a "Mickey Mouse franchise" by Gretzky, to Champions was the single greatest sports moment I've ever witnessed in person.


I just went back and read everything in the thread. That Game was an awesome statement. I remember the Flyers/Devils battles and wars back in the 80's that were just bloody as hell. When the Devils still had the GREEN in their uniforms. It was always a rite of passage being a Flyers fan to hate the Rangers and then loathe the Devils and Islanders but the Devils hit the top of my list when they lost the green. I'm kind of a uniform junkie so a simple uni change like that makes me hate them worse. That and Scott Stevens joining from the Capitals. I respect the hell out of him as a player but man was he fun to root against.

And I would be lying if I didn't smile the last time he flatlined Lindros. I couldn't wait to see that False Messiah leave town. Colorado/Quebec thanks us for their Stanley Cup.

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[TheGameHHH]

The Hockey News is reporting an agreement has been reached on a $45 million salary cap with a meeting to take place saturday, looks like we will have hockey after all.

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[Kevin]

Good to hear!!! now i can watch my Rangers suck and miss the lotto by 1 point beacuse they stupidly won the final game again!!!!
Good for ego driven dirtbags Goodnow and Bettman.

Edit: Espn News has it now too.

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[TheGameHHH]

yea, i'm watching all this unfold on espnews right now. I can't stand Panger, but its nice to hear his voice again! LETS GO DEVILS!!!!!

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[Kevin]

Alot of signing have to take place.

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[TheGameHHH]

Signings are really the only thing that need to be sorted out, Melrose even just pointed out Boston only has like 10 players under contract. But the players are all in fine shape, most of them are literally in game shape so training camp won't be that big of a deal. Once the signings are sorted out, everything else will easily fall into place. I'm so excited, even if it is a shortened season.

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[Snoogans]

fuck a season, seed all 32 teams, have a tournament from the start date, best of 5 series' until you get 1 champion

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[Fallon]

Good, I don't even care if they play a shortened season, I'm just happy their will be a full 2005-06.

30 teams Snoog.

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[Kevin]

thats the Only way the Rangers would make the playoffs for at least 2 more years. after that we are dominating the leauge bitches.

Edit: i just rememberd Hay stupid Glen sather and Jim Dolen is running your team.....DAMN IT!!!

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[Snoogans]

well then make 2 more for the tourney, or get like the top 2 college teams just to see how they do


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[TheGameHHH]

I hope the Rangers go 0-24......or however many games they're gonna play.

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[Kevin]

I hope so too cuz then they can get the Labron of Hockey.

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[Friday]

BOOOOOO

this is all that comes to mind re: the lockout.

my uncle is an NHL linesman and he is now out of work for a complete year. I hope these greedy mofocs realize how ridiculous they are being.

I am as insane a hockey fan as the next girlie.... but this kind of insanity just makes me Hopping Mad!

waaa

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[TheGameHHH]

The Rangers could draft Jesus Christ for next season and they'd still finish 20 games under .500

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[HBox]

I shoudl read posts before posting in the future. DUH!

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[keithy_19]

FINALLY.

Leave it to Super Mario and the Great One to get things done.

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[Kevin]

FINALLY.

Leave it to Super Mario and the Great One to get things done.

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They got it done? Wow!!! Whats next for them? Broker a deal for Peace in the Middle East?

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[TheGameHHH]

and now it's off again..........unreal.

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[Fallon]

I want to kill whoever keeps leaking out that theirs hope because it's driving me nuts!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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[Kevin]

Well its now official. Hockey is run by a bunch of morons.

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[TheGameHHH]

Hearing all this stuff go down last night, I was pretty confident about this deal getting done. But oddly enough it wasn't Panger or Melrose that made me believe the deal was done, it was the fact that apparently the players over in Europe were told to give their teams 24 hours and return home immediately, that's what put me over the edge. I'm so pissed right now I can't even put it into words.

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[fluffernutter]

It's like you're dating this really great girl and you THINK tonight's going to be the night and as she goes and is about to stick her hand in your pants she pulls away, spits in your face and tells you to fuck off and go away.

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[Kevin]

That and she kicks you in the Nuts for good messure.

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[DJEvelEd]

Maybe they should lay off the steroids during negotiations. Too much testosterone and concussion heads making important desisions!!!

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[Snoogans]

you guys obviously hadnt followed too close with this. Thats the reason i wasnt getting excited yet the other day. cause i knew the owners wouldnt agree, not enough anyway.

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[MHasegawa]

Here's some recent news

A Boston-based firm proposes to put up $3.5 billion to own all 30 teams. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2003701)

I doubt this would happen, I think it's improbable to get all 30 owners to agree to this...but who the hell knows now, eh?

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[BoondockSaint]

Francesa went through this today. Basically, Forbes magazine puts the total cost of all 30 teams at 5 billion. So, this isn't even close to being enough money so why start trying to figure out how one owner running the NHL could work.

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[HBox]

<font size="2" face="tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm
watching the NCAA Hockey finals, and it's finally hitting me how much I
miss hockey. We're getting into Stanley Cup Playoffs time, and, IMO,
there's nothing better in sports. It's almost as if, despite there
being no season, I was still expecting the playoffs to start soon, and
now it's finally starting to sink in that it's just not happening this
season. Sucks ass.</font><br />


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[MHasegawa]

<p>Here's some small bits of news around the hockey world.</p><p> </p><p>-Tommy Salo has retired</p><p>-Peter Forsberg may retire</p><p>-Stephane Provost has died in a motorcycle accident. </p>

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[WhistlePig]

Also, the Hershey Bears are now the Caps' minor league affiliate.

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[Snoogans]

<p>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA....AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>everybody remember back when the owners offered&nbsp; a 40-42 million dollar cap and the players said no?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>well,
according to WFAN, the current cap number being nagotiated is between
34-36 million, meaning the players fucked themselves out of 6-8 million
on the cap. GOOD. Fuckin dumbasses deserve it&nbsp;</p>

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[Fallon]

<p>Cam Neely was elected to the Hall of Fame yesterday. Kickass!</p><p>50 goals in 44 games.</p><p><img width="216" height="162" border="0" src="http://www.eagletribune.com/news/stories/20040112/SP_002a.jpg" alt="Cam the Man" title="Cam the Man" />&nbsp;</p>

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[furie]

i'm glad to see the owners stuck to their guns. now we can avoid the scrub season.<br />



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[El Mudo]

<p>Neely was the first great modern power forward...one of those guys thats built like a truck and just is so powerful and speedy you can't stop them...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>All those guys today like Bertuzzi and Lindros etc are built in that same mold....everyone's trying to find the next Neely...Its a damn shame Ulfie&nbsp;ended his career...cause I like Ulfie....</p>

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[Knowledged_one]

<p>What is this hockey you speak of - is it like lacrosse on ice.</p><p>Seriously abandon hockey get on the lacrosse bandwagon, much better and faster and athletic and more goals scored</p>

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[Crippler]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>What is this hockey you speak of - is it like lacrosse on ice.</p><p>Seriously abandon hockey get on the lacrosse bandwagon, much better and faster and athletic and more goals scored</p><img src="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg" border="0" /> Kicking it old school on the board again I really enjoy lacrosse, but how can anything played on foot be faster than something played on&nbsp;a nearly frictionless surface?&nbsp; Stop being&nbsp;such a silly goose.

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[Snoogans]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Seriously abandon hockey get on the lacrosse bandwagon, much better and faster and athletic and more goals scored</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>i
have no problem with lacrosse, i enjoy it, but thats the biggest load
of shit i ever heard. how easy would it be to hold a hockey puck if you
had a net on the end of your stick?&nbsp; i dont see many people gettin
slammed into walls in lacrosse, and half the nice hits in hockey are
penalties in lacrosse. Honestly, ive always thought hockey took more
athleticism then any other pro sports. hand eye like baseball, end to
end like basketball, and hitting like football. All the time while
you're on ice. AND people can punch you in the face. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>lacrosse would kick alot more ass with no helmet cages&nbsp;</p>

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[HBox]

<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2081405" target="_blank">NBA officials told to prepare for a lockout.</a></p><p>I
almost hope that both the NBA and NHL blow there seasons next year,
just so I can see the awfulness of a January Sportscenter with no
hockey and basketball.</p><p>On the other hand, if the NHL can get its
shit together and the NBA cancels it season, it could be the best thing
to ever happen to the NHL. Somehow, though, I think the NBA is too
smart to let that happen and the NHL is too stupid for that to
happen.<br />
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[AppleBoy]

<p>Devils news -</p><ul><li><div>Scott Gomez got a hairline fracture of the pelvis while playing for the Anchorage Aces of the ECHL&nbsp;&nbsp;in a playoff game against the Bakersfield Condors.&nbsp; He should be OK for training camp if there is one.&nbsp; Gomez was also the league MVP this year.</div></li></ul><ul><li><div>Patrik Elias got Hepatitis A while playing in Russia.&nbsp; Who knows when he'll be back.</div></li></ul><p>Congrats to the Trenton Titans for winning the ECHL Championship this year.</p>

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[Snoogans]

the hartford wolfpack kick ass, only because of that norelco commercial
where he smacked the mascot upside the head cause he made fun of their
hairless faces<br />


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[HBox]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Patrik Elias got Hepatitis A while playing in Russia.&nbsp; Who knows when he'll be back.</font></p><p>You better be fucking with me.&nbsp;</p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black" />

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[Snoogans]

no he is serious. he indeed got hepititis A, they think from bad food, though i dont really know much about it<br />


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[HBox]

<p>I just read up on Hepatitis A. It's actually not
that serious. Usually runs its course in 2 months. I guess he should be
fine.</p><p>Fun fact: It's only spread through fecal matter. Someone's been EATING ASS.</p><p>[size=1]or he just drank water in athird world country, which often contains raw sewage.&nbsp;</p>

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[Snoogans]

maybe he was eating ass in a third world country<br />


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[Heavy]

<p>I think the NBA is too smart to let that happen and the NHL is too stupid for that to happen.<br /></p><p>Have you seen how smart the NBA post-season schedual has been?&nbsp; The game starts at 9 and I along with most others will be dead asleep by halftime.&nbsp; </p>

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[Snoogans]

<p>i already said that in the ESPN2 thread</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>pay attention hack&nbsp;</p>

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[Heavy]

I skip over %50 of your posts.

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[Snoogans]

thats cause you would feel ashamed to read them and realize you are so dumb<br />


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[Heavy]

OOO!&nbsp; You got me.

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[spoon]

Hey snoogans chill out man.&nbsp; Wadd isn't dumb, just retarded.&nbsp; Ease up bro.

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[Heavy]

ZING!!!!!!&nbsp; You guys are on fire!

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[Knowledged_one]

I thought all of Wadd's opinions on sports were banned *cough*Giambi and Womack for Clemens *Cough* because he knows so much that his sports knowledge dwarfs us all

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[MHasegawa]

<p>To get back on topic if I may, what do you guys think of the
proposed new rules in hockey that are happening in the R&amp;D
camps? Such as no touch icing, keeping the goalie in the crease,
eliminating the red line, smaller goalie pads, and the new overtime
concept (4 on 4, then 3 on 3, then a shootout), etc...<br />
</p><p> I'm all for
no touch icing and erasing the center line as it will create
basketball-like fastbreaks and I guess more odd man rushes, I'm curious
how these new concepts will workonce the league returns. <br />
</p><p> </p>

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[Knowledged_one]

<p>In my opinion Hockey suffers from the same thing Soccer does - low scores.</p><p>The way to remove that is to be rid of all offsides to make guys cover all over the ice and eliminate the neutral zone trap that has bogged hockey down.</p><p>Getting rid of the Red Line is another good one</p>

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[Crippler]

<p>I like just about all of the new ideas, I'm just afraid that if they institute them all at once it'll be like watching a different sport.&nbsp; I think they should go with the smaller goalie pads, remove the centerline, and maybe the no touch icing &amp; see what that does for goals production before they forbid&nbsp;the goalies from playing the puck &amp; start using the over-sized, oblong goal nets.&nbsp; </p><p>But&nbsp;maybe the most important things they need&nbsp;to do are the crazy idea that's thrown around ever year about ENFORCING THE RULES when it comes to clutching, and do away with ties.&nbsp; I don't care if they use the 4-on-4, 3-on-3, shootout way or something all together different, as long as there is never another tie...EVER.&nbsp; And as&nbsp;long as they playoff system of playing till there's a winner never changes.</p>

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[Crippler]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>In my opinion Hockey suffers from the same thing Soccer does - low scores.</p><p>The way to remove that is to be rid of all offsides to make guys cover all over the ice and eliminate the neutral zone trap that has bogged hockey down.</p><p>Getting rid of the Red Line is another good one</p><img src="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg" border="0" /> Kicking it old school on the board again <br />Getting rid of the two-line pass is one thing, but getting rid of offsides makes it a copletely different game, a clusterfuck, and a joke.&nbsp; That's nice for Playstation, but it has no place in the real game.

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[MHasegawa]

I agree with Crip, the game will be nothing but a d-men flinging a bomb dump pass to a winger for 60 minutes back and forth.<br />


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[Knowledged_one]

<p>You don't think that teams will adjust to it.&nbsp; And so what if it is up and down the ice bombs - that's more excitement for the fans - which i am.&nbsp; And the NHL needs to do what it can to bring back the fan and make the game exciting again.&nbsp; Now from a pureist point of view this would suck.&nbsp; But hockey is facing desperate times and they need to remake the game to suit the fans of the 2000's not the 1970's.&nbsp; And you may hate to see it but would you watch the game if there was no offsides and the scores were 10-9, or continue to watch the 3-2 games you have now.</p><p>Also the width of the ice should be widened as well</p>

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[Fallon]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Also the width of the ice should be widened as well</font></p><p>That's the only change I don't see possible.<br />
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[Crippler]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Also the width of the ice should be widened as well</p><img src="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg" border="0" /> Kicking it old school on the board again <br />This I completey agree with, but I don't see happening.&nbsp; The size of an NHL player has increased so much in the last 25+ years, but the ice surface stayed the same size.&nbsp; There's just not enough room for the really talented players to show their creativity.&nbsp; I think it needs to be extended &amp; widened, but I don't realistically think it'll ever happen.&nbsp; If for no other reason than it would reduce the amount of lower bowl/prime seats in arenas &amp; owners are whores.

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[King Imp]

<p>I recently read an article saying that there should be a conference between mid June and mid July announcing the return of the league. Not sure if it was just wishful thinking on the part of the author or if it's reality though. </p><p>As for the proposed changes, the only one I'm definitely excited about is the shootout. I know a lot of hockey &quot;purists&quot; think this is a bad idea, but personally I think the idea of ties is an even worse idea. I don't think they should have a shootout until the tie is broken though. Let them play one full period of 4 on 4 hockey and if they are tied after that, go to a 5 man shootout. If by chance they are still tied after that, then it actually ends in a tie. </p>

[Bama]

<p>I'm not a hockey fan by any stretch of the imagination but shootouts are the worst idea in the whole world. </p><p>Also, go players. Hockey owners are evil.&nbsp;</p>

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[Snoogans]

<p>im cool with no red line and some of the others, but you cant keep
the goalies in the crease. first off, stickhandling goalies like
broduer send off alot of good break out passes. broduer usually has
5-10 assists a year. also, goalies leaving the crease can add to goals
if they fuck up.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>you wanna change a rule, if the
goalie leaves the crease, you can hit him like any other player. THAT
would add some spice to hockey&nbsp;</p>

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[Snoogans]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Also, go players. Hockey owners are evil. </font></p><p>thank
god you dont really follow hockey, or this woulda been the meanest,
nastiest response from me in the history of the world. </p><p>how can
you fault the owners, THEY DONT HAVE MONEY. maybe its partially there
fault, but i never heard any player say &quot;hey, dont pay us that much,
you might go broke&quot; so everyone is at fault for contracts getting out
of hand. But at the time of this lockout, the owners just couldnt
afford it. 24 teams lost money last season they played, teams went
bankrupt. Shit the devils are a great team, they do it with a payroll
in the 30-40 million range, and they STILL lost money last season. the
owners offered as much as they could, some teams were still gonna lose
money, and the players said fuck you.&nbsp;</p>

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[Heavy]

<p>and the new overtime concept (4 on 4, then 3 on 3,</p><p>I've been saying this for years.&nbsp; If you dont follow hockey you dont even know what the teams record is in the paper.&nbsp; My overtime idea is 5 on 5 for 2 minutes and at the first wistle after that 2:00 point, the ref kicks off 1 person from each team to the bench.&nbsp; 2 minutes after that same thing happens.&nbsp; Over times will be over in frigging 10 minutes real time.&nbsp; 2 on 2 sounds stupid but its penalty shot city and the games ending real soon.&nbsp; </p><p>Anyway I always thought since most arenas arent full anyway, why not widen the ice creating more front row seats?&nbsp; I mean shit, every seat in the house would be closer to the ice making the fans more likely to enjoy themselves and come back.&nbsp; Sell that premise to owners and we got olympic sized ice.</p><p>Taking away offsides penelties is a horrid idea, and Snoogans hit the nail with the goalie being able to roam.&nbsp; Hit him hard and shitll get exciting real quick.</p>

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[spoon]

<p>So much to cover.....</p><p>1)&nbsp; Adding width to the ice surface is the best idea in this thread.&nbsp; I played at a hockey camp in Guelph and the Olympic ice size was awesome.&nbsp; It added speed and skill to the game, and clutching had less an impact.&nbsp; </p><p>2)&nbsp; Not allowing the goalie to play the puck is stupid.&nbsp; It's a part of the game and always should be.&nbsp; Hitting the goalie is even more stupid and will never be allowed.&nbsp; They have protection from the puck, but are at risk of so many other injuries with that equipment.&nbsp; The goalie of the NHL is the quarterback of the NFL.&nbsp; They will protect them at all costs.&nbsp; If not, they will return the favor with some huge hits from the front side when players try to wrap around and come in on a break.&nbsp; </p><p>3)&nbsp; The red line elimination I can deal with.&nbsp; Yet if they expand the ice to olympic size it's not needed.&nbsp; Taking away the red line is like taking the run away from a football team.&nbsp; </p><p>4)&nbsp; No touch icing would protect players from some injuries throughout the year, but take away from the hustle performers, especially late in the game.&nbsp; </p><p>5)&nbsp; Smaller goal pads:&nbsp; It's been happening for the last three years.&nbsp; It's had an effect, but a slight decrease in size would be a better change than increasing the size of the nets.&nbsp; </p><p>6)&nbsp; The overtime shootout I will never agree with.&nbsp; Fuck this pussy way to end a game.&nbsp; I'd rather a tie any day of the week.&nbsp; The best change is simple, 10 minutes of 4 on 4, not 5 minutes.&nbsp; This would all but rule out teams trying only to hang on to the tie, even though they get a point no matter what.&nbsp; 3 on 3 is a video game and a shootout is fucking soccer and that's as gay as it gets.&nbsp; Canada lost the olympics to Sweden on a fucking shootout with Forsberg becoming a hero on the winning goal.&nbsp; He's my favorite player of all time and I think it's bullshit.&nbsp; To play for a whole fucking our to end it on a game of hockey &quot;horse&quot;......fucking weak.&nbsp; Play the real game, not something totally different.</p><p>7)&nbsp; Crip is so right that if they incorporate to many if not more than one of these changes at once the NHL will lose it's best fans.&nbsp; These are the fans who will be there as soon as the league resumes play, not the fringe fans they would be catering to if they do this.&nbsp; </p><p>8)&nbsp; KO I usually agree with your sports opinions but the NHL's low scores are nothing like soccer's low scores.&nbsp; I'd go as far to bet the margin itself is huge.&nbsp; Hockey is the only sport where defense is as exciting as the offense if you know even a little about the game.&nbsp; A great glove save, a huge hip check, a bloody fight, an amazing kick save, a mean open ice hit.&nbsp; All enough to make a crowd to go wild.&nbsp; In soccer you're lucky to have 10 shots total in a game.&nbsp; In hockey the average is well above 40.&nbsp; </p><p>9)&nbsp; Getting rid of offsides will never happen and shouldn't.&nbsp; Stupid idea that would ruin the game.</p>

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[spoon]

<p>&quot;And you may hate to see it but would you watch the game if there was no offsides and the scores were 10-9, or continue to watch the 3-2 games you have now.&quot;</p><p>I'll take a great played 3-2 game any day of the week.&nbsp; Why not just remove the goalie and call it retarded ice basketpuck.&nbsp; Where the team who shoots 55% loses to the team who shoots 60% in the last 5 minutes.&nbsp; Boring fucking game which is what soccer is on the other end of the spectrum.</p><p>King Imp; ties are a part of hockey and always will be.&nbsp; If not, you are messing with the game and it's base.&nbsp; </p><p>Snoogans, you know the game, I'm surprised you'd suggest that the goalie be open game.&nbsp; I think that alone would make most teams never let him leave the crease.&nbsp; Too valuable to risk at that position.&nbsp; Hence the rule change&nbsp;you hate technically comes to fruition.</p><p>Wadd, hockey fills a huge percentage of it's seats.&nbsp; Sure it has a few teams that are having trouble, but even the NFL doesn't sell out 100%.&nbsp; The owners lose money bc they pay their players too much.&nbsp; This is the case since it's tv deal is terrible.&nbsp; In fact, even towns with minor league teams usually sell out as well.&nbsp; Hersey and other AHL teams have great local followings.&nbsp; The problem truly comes in marketing the sport outside of the team areas.&nbsp; The advent of HD tv should help the game on tv, but the nhl needs to market it's sport a better.&nbsp; </p>

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[Heavy]

Several valid points there.&nbsp; Personally I thihnk the idea of playing 1:05 or even 1:10 of hockey and having no winner is much worse then having a winner as a result of a 3 on 3.&nbsp; Yes the shootout is gay but 4-4 or 3-3 gives a clear advantage to the skilled players and you're either gonna have a winner or tons of highlight saves.&nbsp; I despise ties.

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Hey, if you can shoot me some attendance figures for each arena I'll believe it, but I think most places wouldnt loose any money if they had a few hundred less seats

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[spoon]

<p>If the league and players come to their senses for the 2005-2006 season they have three major pluses coming off the strike.&nbsp; </p><p>1)&nbsp; <strong>High Def TV</strong> as I noted above.&nbsp; I love the game on tv already, but even I noticed the difference when I got HD last year.&nbsp;&nbsp;This will allow novice fans to follow the game better and it draws you in even more.</p><p>2)&nbsp; <strong>Sidney &quot;fucking&quot; Crosby</strong>&nbsp; This kid is unbelievable, making LeBron look shitty in the NBA by comparison.&nbsp; He alone can make a team a winner as a rookie.&nbsp; He set the Quebec Junior Hockey League on fire this year with 66 goals, 102 assists (168 points) in 62 fucking games.&nbsp; This is the premier league for budding stars in Canada.&nbsp; He ended with an unheard of +78 ranking.&nbsp; In the playoffs he had 14 goals, 17 assists (31 points and +11) in only 13 games.&nbsp; The only player to score more in this league for a season was Mario Lemeiux.&nbsp; Funny enough, read this &quot;<font size="1">Wayne Gretzky told a reporter from The Arizona Republic, in answer to a question if a player may some day break some of his records: &quot;Yes, Sidney Crosby. He's the best player I've seen since Mario (Lemieux).&quot;&quot;&nbsp; </font></p><p><font size="1">3)&nbsp;<strong> If the NBA is dumb enough to strike next year</strong>, the door will be open for the NHL to rebuild.&nbsp; I also think most pure fans will go right back as they weren't as pissed off at the owners for sticking to there guns on this.&nbsp; Most agree with the owners and would rather save the game as it is and pay the players what they can, as opposed to changing the game to increase it's popularity to an unloyal fan base in order to pay players more.&nbsp; Fuck those who don't like the game as it is, I'd rather keep it as it is for those who really love the game and always will.</font></p>

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[Crippler]

<p>6)&nbsp; The overtime shootout I will never agree with.&nbsp; Fuck this pussy way to end a game.&nbsp; I'd rather a tie any day of the week.&nbsp; The best change is simple, 10 minutes of 4 on 4, not 5 minutes.&nbsp; This would all but rule out teams trying only to hang on to the tie, even though they get a point no matter what.&nbsp; 3 on 3 is a video game and a shootout is fucking soccer and that's as gay as it gets.&nbsp; Canada lost the olympics to Sweden on a fucking shootout with Forsberg becoming a hero on the winning goal.&nbsp; He's my favorite player of all time and I think it's bullshit.&nbsp; To play for a whole fucking our to end it on a game of hockey &quot;horse&quot;......fucking weak.&nbsp; Play the real game, not something totally different.</p><p>For the record, this rule would be in effect for that random Tuesday night game where you just need to have a winner rather than having a 6 period game &amp; possibly having a flight to catch for tomorrow's game.&nbsp; But it would absolutely NEVER decide a playoff&nbsp;or championship game in my NHL-Utopia world.&nbsp; The playoffs in hockey are the best thing in sports, and should never be messed with.</p>

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HOCKEY SUCKS MY COCK HOLE!

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[Snoogans]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">The playoffs in hockey are the best thing in sports, and should never be messed with.</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>amen brotha&nbsp;</p>

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[Crippler]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>HOCKEY SUCKS MY COCK HOLE! <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/artemisentreri/alkey.gif" border="0" />You, dear sir, are a foolish &amp; uninformed young man.&nbsp; Therefore, I would ask that you kindly fuck off from this conversation.<br />

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[IrishAlkey]

Puck you!

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[Crippler]

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[spoon]

<p>Alkey is an old fuck you dumb fuck!</p><p>Making friends day by day is my motto.</p>

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[Bama]

<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Also, go players. Hockey owners are evil. </font><p>&nbsp;</p><p>thank
god you dont really follow hockey, or this woulda been the meanest,
nastiest response from me in the history of the world. </p><p>how can
you fault the owners, THEY DONT HAVE MONEY. maybe its partially there
fault, but i never heard any player say &quot;hey, dont pay us that much,
you might go broke&quot; so everyone is at fault for contracts getting out
of hand. But at the time of this lockout, the owners just couldnt
afford it. 24 teams lost money last season they played, teams went
bankrupt. Shit the devils are a great team, they do it with a payroll
in the 30-40 million range, and they STILL lost money last season. the
owners offered as much as they could, some teams were still gonna lose
money, and the players said fuck you. </p>

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<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;Partially their fault? Try completely and totally. A
worker goes for the most they can get. If an owner is stupid enough to
pay more than they can afford....well they deserve to be forced out.
The salary cap is going to be there to protect stupid and incompetent
owners I guess.</p>

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[spoon]

i agree bama

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[Bama]

Player bashing really bothers me. I've never bought a ticket to watch an owner own. <br />


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[Snoogans]

<p>dude you are missing the entire point. you are right about the
owners and players, but that was sport at the time. once it all went to
hell, they tried to save the league with the only thing they could. The
players, knowing the fate of the league fell in their hands, said
fuckyou. </p><p>i know whats done is done, and blame lies everywhere,
but the greedy fuckin players could have saved the day, and been heros
in everyones eyes. but rather then play with a 42 million dollar cap,
they were too good for that and just sat down, now they are gonna play
for even less. FUCK the players, fuck the owners, fuck em all, but the
season locked out because of the players&nbsp;</p>

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[Heavy]

<p>If an owner is stupid enough to pay more than they can afford</p><p>yea, about 5 owners did that because they could and it forced every other team to over pay for marginal talent so they could try to compete.&nbsp; I'm not blaming owners for trying to&nbsp; have talent on thier teams and doing what it takes to win alittle.&nbsp; You blame the douchebags like Sather who overpay for defensmen and then dont even have the sense to put them in situations they can perform well in.&nbsp; I dont blame the players either because THEY are not the ones that said no, its thier dumbass represenitive that said no over andover again.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm sure most players would have accepted last years proposell instead of missing the season.&nbsp; Hockey players are smart and have common sense, thier not basketball players ya know.</p>

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[King Imp]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>King Imp; ties are a part of hockey and always will be.&nbsp; If not, you are messing with the game and it's base. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br />Yes, I understand it's part of the game, but IMO there are way too many ties each season. My proposal would still allow for ties, but would drastically cut them down. </p><p>Hell for all Devils haters, you should love this idea. I am a Devils fan, but I will be the first to admit that for as good as Martin Brodeur is, he absolutely sucks on one-on-one breakways. He proves that every year in the All-Star skills competition. </p><p>Anyways, take this hypothetical scenario. Imagine somehow a freakish occurrence happens and a team ended the season 0-0-82. That would give them 82 points without ever winning a damn game and guess what. 82 points is usually good enough to get you in the playoffs. Granted that's far fetched, but you can see my point. </p>

[Heavy]

<p>ties are a part of hockey and always will be.&nbsp; If not, you are messing with the game and it's base.</p><p>Youre messing with a part of them game that should be messed with.&nbsp; Who likes a tie?&nbsp; Whats the good part&nbsp; of a game ending without a winner or loser.&nbsp; Theyve already messed with it by giving a point to both teams and adding a fouth column in the standings which is about the dumbest thing in sports.</p><p>Its not like trying to take fighting out, which is a part of the game people like and serves a purpose.</p>

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[Snoogans]

<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Imagine somehow a freakish
occurrence happens and a team ended the season 0-0-82. That would give
them 82 points without ever winning a damn game</font><p>&nbsp;</p><p> </p><p>ok,
so instead of letting in a team who didnt win a game, you wanna keep a
tea, out of the playoffs that NEVER LOST A DAMN GAME. it goes both ways
idiot.</p><p> </p><p>plus 82 points isnt usually playoff caliber </p>

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<font color=black>This message was edited by Snoogans on 6-12-05 @ 12:18 AM</font>

[spoon]

First off, ring the bell for the second to last Wadd post.&nbsp; Earl would be pissed.&nbsp; The other thing is that Brodeur faces the best shooters in the world at the all-star game.&nbsp; And I doubt very much he practices for something like that.&nbsp; Do you really think the NHL's best current goalie wouldn't be able to adapt if they were a part of the game?&nbsp; I hate the Devils, but come on, have faith in your man.

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[Heavy]

<p><font size="1">If you take that defense away from Brodeur, you have an avg goalie.&nbsp; His amount of shutouts is sickening and hes not as good as his numbers indicate.&nbsp; I have no idea if this is true but I'll bet he faces way less shots then most other goalies and of those shots, a small % are actuall shots he has to save.</font></p>

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[Heavy]

He's no Billy Smith is my point.

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[Knowledged_one]

Spoon how dare you disagree with me, that's it im a yankees fan now, and Wadd knows all about sports

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[King Imp]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>The other thing is that Brodeur faces the best shooters in the world at the all-star game.&nbsp; And I doubt very much he practices for something like that.&nbsp; Do you really think the NHL's best current goalie wouldn't be able to adapt if they were a part of the game?&nbsp; I hate the Devils, but come on, have faith in your man. <p><br />This argument might have been stronger if it weren't for the fact that the others goalies in the All-Star competition seem to be able to stop 4 or 5 of the shootouts, while Marty is lucky to stop 2. Trust me, I watch this competition every year for one reason and that's to see how my goalie fares. Every year he looks like a junior hockey goalie on those breakaways, yet &quot;lesser&quot; goalies are able to handle the shots better.</p><p>Now, would he be able to adapt with practice. Of course. He is a good goalie, but being a fan of the team, I can honestly say he's not great. His numbers come from the fact that he consistantly has one of the best defenses in front of him to take the pressure off. Put him on a horrendous team like the Rangers and I guarantee he wouldn't have the same All-Star numbers. </p>

<font color=black>This message was edited by King Imp on 6-14-05 @ 1:29 AM</font>