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HBox

06-13-2005, 09:36 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/columns/story?columnist=johnson_george&id=2040171" target="_blank">I really thought we were behind this Brodeur bashing. He's the best of his generation, hands down, end of argument.</a> 

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spoon

06-13-2005, 11:29 PM

"I really think there's a pre-'02 perception of Martin Brodeur and a post-'02,'' says former goalie and current Hockey Night in Canada analyst Kelly Hrudey. "And I was as guilty of that as anyone. Salt Lake City elevated him. Before, it was kind of like 'Oh, he's playing for the New Jersey Devils. They play such great team defense. He should be winning games, should be winning Cups.' That was really unfortunate, and obviously a bit narrow-minded.That article sums it up nicely.  The above point was where I was going next.  I'm the biggest Roy fan in the world, but one would be an ass not to realize Martin's the best right now.  Who the fuck cares about the all-star game breakouts.  Most of the time he's smiling and laughing.  Hell, Roy usually didn't do so well in the challenges, but put a game on the line, both would be at the top of the league stats.  No fucking doubt.

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Heavy

06-14-2005, 01:14 AM

Kelly Hrudey was better then both those guys.

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spoon

06-14-2005, 01:52 PM

Now you're just trying to be stupid.  Hey, it's working!

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Heavy

06-14-2005, 01:55 PM

it was him and mikko Makala to the Kings for Baumgartner and someone better...

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Heavy

06-14-2005, 02:43 PM

Fuck it, I'm doing this here.How do you hockey fans see the Lindros trade?  Lindros wasnt exactly bad, but Quebec getting all that talent has lead to cups.  I see this like the Hershel Walker trade only Lindros was young and had a good carear.Also, I've been looking for that Hextall golf swing on Nillsen from 87, but I cant find a pic.  Anybody know where one is?

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spoon

06-14-2005, 04:30 PM

The stats on Lindros drop off badly after the 99 season.  His durability is a major black mark on his legacy. This trade made the Quebec/Colorado franchise in soo many different ways, indirect and direct.  The original trade was Lindros for Goalie Hextall, Center Mike Ricci, C Peter Forsberg, D Steve Duchesne, D Kerry Huffman, a 1993 first round pick (Jocelyn Thibault), a lot of cash and future considerations.Those future considerations became Chris Simon and a 1st round pick in 1994 (traded to Toronto).And by cash, it was a couple million.  Hextall was later traded for what resulted in Mark Fitzpatrick and Adam Deadmarsh.  Thibault was a huge player in the development of the Avs franchise, as he was the French-Canadian goalie Montreal was looking for in a trade for Roy.  The trade was Thibault, LW Martin Ruchinsky, RW Andrei Kovalenko for Patrick Roy and RW Mike Keane.  Hence the Nordiques/Avs got Forsberg, Deadmarsh, Keane, Simon, Ricci, Duchesne, Huffman, Roy and millions for Eric Lindros.  Nice job Philly!

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El Mudo

06-14-2005, 05:55 PM

This is Sidney Crosby..He's supposed to be the Next Big Thing...<img height="300" src="http://images.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/_photos/2004-03-08-crosby-inside.jpg" width="180" border="0" /> And I swear, if this guy ends up in NY, someone is going to die....

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HBox

06-14-2005, 05:58 PM

Knowing the NHL, he'll end up in Nashville, Atlanta or Columbus. You know, the BIG stage. 

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El Mudo

06-14-2005, 06:00 PM

Hey..Atlanta's got a great young team down there with Kovalchuk and Heatley...Nashville made the play offs and was selling out every nightColumbus has what has been called the best arena in sports, and also has a great young star in Rick Nash...I'd love to see him with any of those teams...except Atlanta...cause they're in the SEast Division w/ my Caps(who have a real super young player named Alex Ovechkin)

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06-14-2005, 06:08 PM

I know Atlanta and Nashville have talented
teams, but those teams receive so little media coverage that sometimes
I forget that they're even in the league. It would be best for the
league to showcase a talent like that in a big media market with a
rabid fanbase. That would qualify New York, Toronto, Montreal, Detroit,
Colorado, Philly and Dallas. Failing that, maybe someplace like Chicago
(big media market, but owner is a cancer), Los Angeles (Big market,
so-so fans), New Jersey or the Islanders (big market even though
overshadowed by the Rangers), or Washington.I'm probably
forgetting some places, but you don't want to hide someone like that,
especially when the NHL will be in such a fragile state whenever they
return. 


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Heavy

06-14-2005, 06:21 PM

And I swear, if this guy ends up in NY, someone is going to die....With the cap the Isles can afford him now!  See, if the talent gets spread around it can be like the nfl where someone like Brett Favre can play in GB his whole carear and he and his team are on the tele and NYers actually WATCH them.Nobody can find that picture of Hextall right?

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Snoogans

06-14-2005, 06:22 PM

Potvin beats his wife! 

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newport king

06-14-2005, 06:28 PM

since wadd is requesting shit, if anyone has video of clint malarchuk getting his juggular cut and damn near bleeding to death that would also be appreciated.

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MHasegawa

06-14-2005, 06:49 PM

I have that Malarchuk video, IM me at ShootBoxer973 since I have nowhere to host it. And Sidney Crosby will be a NY Ranger....when he's 36. 

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spoon

06-14-2005, 08:12 PM

quote: This is Sidney Crosby..He's supposed to be the Next Big Thing...<img height="300" src="http://images.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/_photos/2004-03-08-crosby-inside.jpg" width="180" border="0" /> And I swear, if this guy ends up in NY, someone is going to die....Hey Mundo, here are his stats from the past season in the QJMHL that I posted a few days back."2)  Sidney "fucking" Crosby  This kid is unbelievable, making LeBron look shitty in the NBA by comparison.  He alone can make a team a winner as a rookie.  He set the Quebec Junior Hockey League on fire this year with 66 goals, 102 assists (168 points) in 62 fucking games.  This is the premier league for budding stars in Canada.  He ended with an unheard of +78 ranking.  In the playoffs he had 14 goals, 17 assists (31 points and +11) in only 13 games.  The only player to score more in this league for a season was Mario Lemeiux.  Funny enough, read this "Wayne Gretzky told a reporter from The Arizona Republic, in answer to a question if a player may some day break some of his records: "Yes, Sidney Crosby. He's the best player I've seen since Mario (Lemieux).""  

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El Mudo

06-16-2005, 06:36 PM

And the other thing Spoon, is that he put up those stats against the Trap(which pretty much every team in QMJHL runs) and the best goaltenders in the world have historically come out of Quebec...a double whammy....

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06-17-2005, 12:24 AM

And he's doing it on one skate!  Do you know the street value of this mountain??!!

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06-17-2005, 03:54 AM

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fluffernutter

06-17-2005, 06:28 AM

"Damn shame folks be throwing away a perfectly good white boy"How do you hockey fans see the Lindros trade? Being a Flyers fan, I was ecstatic as it developed and we got the "Next Big Thing"He is referred to as the False Messiah down here.YAY!There is a buzz that apparently the Flyers want Crosby but at this point, who knows. Should be interesting. 

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spoon

06-17-2005, 03:27 PM

The buzz is that everyone wants Crosby. 

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El Mudo

06-17-2005, 06:56 PM

I'm perfectly happy with what Ive seen from future Washington Capital Alex Ovechkin..<img height="220" src="http://www.hockeyrodent.com/bird/russlo2.jpg" width="248" border="0" /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/elm_sig.gif" border="0" /> ....We haven't seen the sun since '71Thanks Monsterone!!

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MHasegawa

06-18-2005, 05:28 AM

Crosby said more than anything he wants to be a Hab. 

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Snoogans

06-18-2005, 06:15 AM

Lou Lammorello will find a way to get this kid 

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AppleBoy

06-18-2005, 08:43 AM

Here's your Hextall pics<img height="183" src="http://www.canoe.ca/NHLPlayoffImages/apr22_phi_tb.jpg" width="300" border="0" /><img height="256" src="http://ww3.sportsline.com/b/apphotos/Overhead5996.jpg" width="360" border="0" /><img height="244" src="http://ww3.sportsline.com/b/apphotos/Winner5996.jpg" width="360" border="0" />

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Snoogans

07-01-2005, 09:40 PM

apparently, a settlement will be reached within 5-10 days, they are just nailing down the fine stuff so i guess that means a second straight year without hockey, cause i think i heard this one before 

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spoon

07-01-2005, 09:54 PM

Nah, they're real close now.  And like you said before, the players shot themselves in the foot.  I'm really curious as to how the draft will work.  They can't use the same order as last year.  I'm assuming they have to use some sort of tiered lottery system.  The league sure as hell will have a different feel for everyone involved now.  Hell, the rangers might even win again....and save money.

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Snoogans

07-01-2005, 09:57 PM

what im waiting for is the fun of teams scrambling like roaches to sign
all the good FA's. i wonder what "big" contracts are gonna look like
now, are they gonna use like prorated bonuses and what not to dance
around it, like in football 

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Crippler

07-01-2005, 10:40 PM

Hell, the rangers might even win again....and save money.I read an article that says they might start with buying out the contracts of Holik & Kasper-Minus.  Not bad players on other teams, but money stealing, worthless piles of shit as Rangers.  I like the idea...a lot.

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TheGameHHH

07-01-2005, 11:07 PM

I hope Holik gets bought out and fades into obscurity, fuck him. 

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Fallon

07-02-2005, 10:16 AM

The Bruins have an awesome chance this upcoming season. Their payroll
is super low, so once the free agent signings start they should put a
great team together. B's owner Jacobs was one of the leaders in the
lockout, so he planned for this. 

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Heavy

07-02-2005, 02:36 PM

Kasperitus was fucking brutal as an Islander.  If I had a nickel for everytime he made someones legs flip over thier head along the boards, i'd probally have like....a dollar.  He was great though.  If they could just get back all the good ones the let go we'd have a solid ass team.  They draft well.

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HBox

07-08-2005, 03:52 PM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2103884" target="_blank">Pat
Burns isn't coming back to coach the Devils and isn't doing well. He's
had a relapse of his cancer. Looks like Larry Robinson will come back
to coahc the Devils.</a>Good wishes to Pat Burns. He was 10 times the coach I though he'd be.I
hope it's Larry Robinson as the new coach too. Lamoriello has good
handle on what kind of coach the team needs and when they need it,
shifting from authoritarian to player's coach. <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2103884" target="_blank"></a>

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AppleBoy

07-08-2005, 06:30 PM

Seriously, nothing but best wishes going out to Pat Burns for a speedy recovery.

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HBox

07-13-2005, 09:06 AM

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2106776" target="_blank">The deal is official!</a> 

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Snoogans

07-13-2005, 09:07 AM

i didnt think id feel as strong, but i think im happier then ive ever been that hockey is around, which is kinda weird 

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07-13-2005, 09:27 AM

I miss hockey so frigging much. I plan on going to the first home game back. 

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spoon

07-13-2005, 02:52 PM

The big thing is that the draft lottery and then draft is probably going to happen in late July.  Teams who kept it together during the strike can probably steal some great players since this is quite a quick turnaround.  Whoever gets that number one pick is one lucky fucking team, as everyone will have at least a shot to win the NBA-like draft selection.  This could be one of the biggest picks to hit the NHL in quite some time, and let's hope he doesn't end up going to the Rangers.  I'm sure they'd find a way to fuck him up. 

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07-13-2005, 06:29 PM

If they use the weighted ball/team with bad record over last five years system the Rangers would have a good chance.I'm
really stoked about the Bruins. They have so much money to work with
and will be spending about 39mill. Should put a good team around
Thornton, Bergeron, Raycroft, Samsonov and Girard.Red Wings are fucked. 

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WhistlePig

07-13-2005, 08:44 PM

[quote]quote:<hr color="cococo" align="left">I'm perfectly happy with what Ive seen from future Washington Capital Alex Ovechkin..<img height="220" src="http://www.hockeyrodent.com/bird/russlo2.jpg" width="248" border="0" /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/elm_sig.gif" border="0" /> 

The new collective bargaining agreement has to be signed before July 20 for Ovechkin to be able to opt out of his contract with the Russian Super League and sign with the Caps for this year! Crap I hope that happens but it doesn't look likely.

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07-14-2005, 04:43 AM

I heard yesterday on an ESPN chat with some NHL guy that they are going to have a gigantic lottery with every team having a chance for the 1 pick, except if you've had the 1 pick in the last 3 years, you don't get weighted as much.. <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/elm_sig.gif" border="0" /> ....We haven't seen the sun since '71Thanks Monsterone!!

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Knowledged_one

07-14-2005, 04:52 AM

NHL Hockey i don't know guys sounds like a made up sport to me

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El Mudo

07-14-2005, 04:59 AM

Actually Whistle, he has to sign with the Caps before the 20th...its not pending the CBA....

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07-14-2005, 09:13 AM

Yeah, I worded that wrong. The CBA has to be reached before the Caps can negotiate with Ovechkin according to NHL rules.

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Heavy

07-14-2005, 05:06 PM

will be spending about 39millI thought the cap was between 29-32 mil?  I thinks thats what frannny said on FAN today.  

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