PETA can kiss my ass

[Snoogans]

I put this in Political cause they are, at this point, basically a cult and have way to much power.
i saw that bullshit thing on them by penn and teller, and thought they were asshole, but not until i came across a group of protesting "animal savers" did i realize just how dickhead they were. they were protesting some animal hospital refuge in rockland county about how they put animals to sleep after a time at the pound. it really pissed me off cause they blocked the road and wouldnt let cars by for about 20 min until a cop came down the road.

what pissed me off the most was later when i saw the penn and teller thing. apparently, PETA, our animals best friend, killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 1600 or the 2700 animals it rescued at its head quarters in VA.

alotta other shit too that i cant pull off the top of my head, but few things piss me off more than blocking my commute for even a second, nevermind 20 minutes cause you have a supiriority complex and have to feel like you are playing god to animals.

and oh yea, they hate animal testing, which they say has never been proven to help, yet over 10 million people alive now would be dead without treatments and meds discovered in animal testing.

next time dont block my car, you fuckin cocksuckers

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[DarkHippie]

They are protesting the Hi Tor Animal Shelter. I used to work there. That place needs to be fuckin shut down and fuckin quick. The conditions are hellish.

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[Yerdaddy]

drown a kitten. you'll feel better

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[FUNKMAN]

this situation reminds me of charities and the question whether a little bit of help is better than no help at all....

there are alot of charities where the majority of the money goes to administrative costs and not the 'object' in need which may only receive 10 to 25% of the donations. personally i don't like it but i continue to ask myself whether the 10 to 25% is "better than nothing"?

so what did that little nugget of joy tidbit mean? if Peta does a 'little bit of good' does it make it all worth it in the end?

i don't know...
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[Se7en]

Time to bust out ActivistCash.com again.

[quote]People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
501 Front Street, Norfolk, VA 23510
Phone 757-622-7382 | Fax 757-622-0457 | Email info@peta-online.org

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has been described as "by far the most successful radical organization in America." The key word is radical. PETA seeks "total animal liberation," according to its president and co-founder, Ingrid Newkirk. That means no meat or dairy, of course; but it also means no aquariums, no circuses, no hunting or fishing, no fur or leather, and no medical research using animals. PETA is even opposed to the use of seeing-eye dogs.

Amidst the dozens of animal rights organizations, PETA occupies the niche of -- in Newkirk's own words -- "complete press sluts." Endlessly seeking media exposure, PETA sends out dozens of press releases every week.

In the past, PETA has handled the press for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), a violent, underground group of fanatics who plant firebombs in restaurants, destroy butcher shops, and torch research labs. The FBI considers ALF among America's most active and prolific terrorist groups, but PETA compares it to the Underground Railroad and the French Resistance. More than 20 years after its inception, PETA continues to hire convicted ALF militants and funds their legal defense. In at least one case, court records show that Ingrid Newkirk herself was involved in an ALF arson.

PETA has even begun to adopt the tactics of an ALF offshoot known as SHAC (Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty). This group is notorious for taking protests outside the boardroom and into the living room, attacking their targets at their homes.

In 2001, three masked SHAC members brutally bludgeoned a medical researcher outside his home in England. The lead attacker was arrested and sentenced to three years in prison. A few months later, SHAC attacked another research industry employee on his doorstep with a chemical spray to his eyes, leaving him temporarily blinded and writhing in pain. The following year, Newkirk was asked her opinion of SHAC in the Boston Herald. Her response? "More power to SHAC if they can get someone's attention."

By 2003, PETA activists had adopted SHAC's protest techniques, stalking and harassing fast-food restaurant executives. Not content to write letters and picket the chain restaurant's offices, PETA's leaders met with the CEO's pastor, and visited his country club and the manager of one of his favorite restaurants. PETA activists, one dressed in a chicken suit, even protested at the church of two executives, annoying worshipers by driving a truck with giant screens of slaughterhouse video back and forth along the street.

In an effort to win more media exposure, PETA has adopted the counter-intuitive tactic of buying stock in restaurant and food companies that serve and sell meat. After buying just enough shares to qualify, PETA's pattern is to introduce shareholder resolutions that would require animal-rights-oriented practices in the way animals are handled and slaughtered.

PETA's goal as a shareholder, of course, is not to turn a profit. Its resolutions, if passed, would increase the cost of doing business and lower the value of everyone's investment. The group has claimed that it's "not trying to remove meat from the menu." But with a stated long-term goal of "total animal liberation," pushing for animal-welfare changes is just a first step. PETA's short-term goals are to economically cripple these companies, force them to increase the retail price of meat, and nudge consumers toward eating less of it.

PETA collected more than $16 million in donations in 2002 alone, but few donors understand exactly where their money is going. During the past ten years, PETA has spent four times as much on criminals and their legal defense than it has on shelters, spay-neuter programs, and other efforts that actually help animals.

From both a moral and a legal standpoint, there are far too many objectionable things about PETA to l

[HBox]

Do you really expect me to read ALL that!?

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[furie]

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[TheMojoPin]

Se7en, if you can link that to a seperate page, please edit it to do so.

PETA always struck me as being more about the celebrities and the "image" if the cuase than the cause itself. Like Se7en said, help out local shelters and pet rescue operations. Ground-level ANYTHING is where you'll find the true activists.

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[Snoogans]

right there is hypocrisy. PETA is for total liberation of animals, yet from my days at petco, i know PETA members who have pets, which would be against what PETA stands for, as is Euthenizing animals.

So PETA is against those things, yet they do both

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[TheMojoPin]

Well thank Christ the dangerous PETA menace has been exposed and our children are finally safe.

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[fiestygal]

i wear fur


i eat meat


i dont go around pushing those beliefs on my vegetarian friends


PETA is a bunch of crazies- too radical- almost CULT-ish

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[FollowThisLogic]

next time dont block my car, you fuckin cocksuckers
Remember, PETA values the lives of animals over the lives of people.

So next time, don't stop.

Turn around, go back half a mile, and get up some good speed.... betcha anyone who jumps out of your way will be kicked out of PETA.

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[CruelCircus]

Well thank Christ the dangerous PETA menace has been exposed and our children are finally safe.

You're being sarcastic, but did you read that article?
It seems that they damn well are dangerous.
Wow. And I just thought they were annoying.

I wonder if all these celebs know they're basically backing a terrorist organization?


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[Yerdaddy]

basically backing a terrorist organization?

let's not get the definition of terrorism any more confused and politicized than it already is. It's kind of an important distinction.

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[FUNKMAN]

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as opposed to men who 'eat fur' and 'wear meat'...

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[TheMojoPin]

You're being sarcastic, but did you read that article?

Yes.

Here was what showed it be more than a tad off the center...

The FBI calls ALF and ELF the nation's "most serious domestic terrorism threat."

That's flat-out not true.

The article's a great condemnation of ELF and ALF, put it really still paints PETA to be pains-in-ass more than anything else, and GREAT shit-talkers. If they're giving money to criminal groups, hey, shut 'em down. But the above is comedy in its purest form.

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[Mike Teacher]

I'd just like to step in and thank Seven for making a post that makes my ramblings seem short in comparison. :)

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This is a wonderful debate topic that is used in many a science and health class.

Snoogs is indeed correct in that; whether we are meat eaters, or eat nothing but bark, all of us, every single one us of, is the benefactor of animal research. Now that isnt guilt by association, but thats just the way it was and, in a modified form, is. Animals are tested on everything from vaccines to sutures to cosmetics.

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[Leadbottom]

I say we eat PETA. Put them in a pot and cook them like cannibals cooking Missionaries.
I'll have a thigh please!

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[Se7en]

Se7en, if you can link that to a seperate page, please edit it to do so.



I tried, but it didn't work - I think the website uses javascript or something, and it wouldn't link to the direct page.

Consider this just a one time thing, I'm not apt to post entire articles on anything in the future.

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[sr71blackbird]

Ever see those bottles of products like shampoo or whatever that say "No animal testing" on the side? So, that means that we are testing it out, and paying for it! They hold animals as a higher form of life than people! Im not saying I am for willfull neglect or cruelty to animals, just saying that if I had a baby, Id want to make damn sure that any chemical she comes in contact with has been tested so it doesnt peel her skin off!

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[mikeyboy]

Im not saying I am for willfull neglect or cruelty to animals, just saying that if I had a baby, Id want to make damn sure that any chemical she comes in contact with has been tested so it doesnt peel her skin off!


The stuff is still tested before it's sold, just not on animals.

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[sr71blackbird]

Yeah, its tested on humans!

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

Yeah, its tested on humans!


Some days I prefer animals to humans so I have no problem with that!

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[mikeyboy]

Yeah, its tested on humans!


Well, yeah, but that also means that your concerns that products might burn your baby's skin off are unfounded. That was my point.

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[sr71blackbird]

I understand that, its just that its saying it is like they are moral for not testing it on animals, but as if its better if it is tested on us. I understand your point and Im sure (at least I hope) that new products are made with ingrediendts that are knows to be safe. In other words, they know that Johnson and Johnson baby shampoo wont hurt a kids skin becuase is was exhaustively tested in the past and its components are known to be safe. Its the new stuff Im talking about, stuff that wasnt "tested on animals" (people are animals the last time I checked btw). That isnt to say that if a new product comes along, Im sure it has to pass FDA approval, and they arent going to go and put battery acid in something. My point is that they flout it like its a good thing that no non human suffered as a result of a new products testing. http://crespin.xwlegacy.net/pics/riiight.gif

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[TheMojoPin]

Se7en, thanks for trying to link it.

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[Yerdaddy]

My point is that they flout it like its a good thing that no non human suffered as a result of a new products testing.

It is a good thing that no animals suffered as a result of product testing. Animal tests aren't the only way to test products, and often aren't the best way to test them. And just because a product isn't tested on animals doesn't mean they're testing it on humans, or on you or your family. And soilent green is NOT, I repeat NOT people.

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[Mike Teacher]

And soilent green is NOT, I repeat NOT people.


Ya know I heard that too; healfway through the movie they found out Soylent Green were just Wheat Thins; but kept the lie going so the movie wouldn't suck.

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