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grandzu
07-27-2004, 10:12 AM
It really is amazing that the US has the nerve to call the countries that pull out of Iraq cowarldly or setting a bad precedent because their citizens get kidnapped and killed.
What precedent was the US setting in Lebanon or Somalia?


Troops stayed in the city until February 1984, with President Reagan insisting that they still had an important job to do. Nonetheless, the attacks undermined the conviction behind Reagan's policy, and weakened political support in the United States. In addition, Shi'ite Muslim terrorists resorted to the murder and kidnapping of American citizens in Lebanon. Eventually one of these kidnappings proved to be the last straw, and led to Reagan reversing his position and pulling American troops out of Beirut.


Is this not the same situation?
Its always been that when the going gets really tough, positions get reversed. Besides we are going to leave soon also.

History gets forgotten so quickly and convieniently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/sept_11/build_up_02.shtml

Yerdaddy
07-27-2004, 10:53 AM
It is hypocritical for us to criticize countries that pull out of Iraq as a concession to kidnappers. However, it is handing small victories to the insurgents and encouraging more kidnappings. I agree with the strategy of not negotiating with terrorists, but at times it requires the willingness to make painful sacrafices. Then again, in most of these cases, like the Philippines, they aren't being asked to sacrifice that much, making the decision much more difficult. The Philippine president had a choice of pulling about 50 troops out 2 or 3 weeks earlier than planned, or having her public see the beheading of a citizen in a war that the majority of its public didn't support. That's a tough call to make. But then again it also makes for a smaller victory for the insurgents; despite the polical victory over the coalition, it's also only a gain of a few troops for a short period of time.

It's a tough situation for coalition members, and the criticism can be chalked up to trying to stem the tide of small victories. I'm not willing to condemn anyone but the terrorists at this point.

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FMJeff
07-27-2004, 11:24 AM
How do you expect a country like the Phillippines NOT to pull out? They were probably roped into this "Coalition of the Willing" with trade incentives and US aid. They're not a military power. Of course they have the right to pull out, and they will not be missed. Please, stay on your tropical island. We'll handle it from here.

As for history being forgotten, of COURSE. The very reason we can be hypocritical is because the people of this country fail to seek things like this out and confront our politicans with it. They're basically getting away with it. It's no wonder why the world hates this country.

I commend you though, grandzu, for finding this and bringing it to our attention.

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