Rogue Waves!

[Furtherman]

For as long as man has been sailing the seas there has been talk of giant waves that come out of calm seas that swallow ships whole.

Many dismissed them as drunken sailor talk, or very rare events under certain circumstances.

Another sailor myth vindicated, it seems these waves happen all the time! Imagine you are out at sea during a beautiful day then all of the sudden, a wall of water as tall as a 10 story building is bearing down on you.

We know more about space than we do our own oceans. Fascinating stuff.

Freak Waves Spotted From Space (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3917539.stm)

Satellites used to explain monster waves (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5491071/)

"Out of nowhere... a wave twice as high as average. The ship went down like freefall" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2002/freakwave.shtml)

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[keithy_19]

Sailor: So cap'n, how's the sailing going?

Captain: It's going very well. Such calm oceans. Almost makes it to easy. Oh my God, what is that!?

Sailor: Pirates!?

Captain: No! It's a wave! Holy fuck!

::CRASH::





Thanks for ruining my dreams of going out to be a fisherman.

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[Furtherman]

Thanks for ruining my dreams of going out to be a fisherman.


No problem!

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[Mike Teacher]

Sebastian Junger's book 'not the movie' goes into some detail on waves, including rouge waves. amazing stuff, another exapmple of how Mother Nature just laughs at us.

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[Furtherman]

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AKI, Japan -- A high wave lashes a fishing port in Aki, western Japan. A large typhoon lashed western Japan with heavy rains and powerful winds Monday, grounding airplanes, stalling ferries, and forcing hundreds to evacuate their homes. (06/21/04 AP Photo-Kyodo News)


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[TheMojoPin]

I saw a special on The Bermuda Triangle recently on the Discovery Channel, where they believe that the "vanishing" in that area are actually the result of "sea farts"...giant methan bubbles released from cracks in the sea floor that can be big enough to come to the surface and almost literally swallow a ship in just a few seconds...anything from a sailboat to a fully loaded oil tanker.

It also explians why planes were lost as well, since when the methane reaches the surface, the bubble may "pop," but the gas just keeps rising. If it comes into contact with a plane engine, it can light up almost instanttaneously, and the planess engines just basically blow out in a flash and it goes right down.

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[Furtherman]

I saw that special too - it was on this past Sunday. They haven't found Flight 19 yet, the 5 Navy planes that disappeared in 1945 (but showed up in Close Encounters of the Third Kid).

However, the coolest part was the oceanographer who did find 5 Navy planes, the same models as Flight 19, in the same area. They were 5 different planes that crashed on different occasions in the same section of water. Totally bizarre, even for methane displacement.


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[BoondockSaint]

They also said that since methane is lighter then air it can screw up the altimeter so the pilots would think they are rapidly climbing and put the plane into a dive right into the water.

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[Mike Teacher]

Well done Boondock! And I mean that not from a 'The Teacher' standpoint. I read that and went, wait, methane is lighter then air? And I went to Google to confirm. I always sound like soom toady teacher. maybe i'll go back to mizzle for a while, if I could remember Mizzles password.

But thats cool, I had forgotten it was indeed lighter then air. Filling a balloon would show its pretty weak for lift comapred to hydrogen, and igniting said balloon, well, as LeeLoo said: Big Bada Boom.

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That Hurricane is doing Quite Nicely. Anyone watching that?

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[ADF]

I better be more careful with my baked beans.

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[sr71blackbird]

I wonder if its connected, but I remember an article I read in Scientific American a few years ago regarding kenetic energy and land slides. Where basically, particles are bouncing off of each other and transmitting their kenetic energy to other particles and so on and it somehow makes the entire mass of particles move a much farther distance than can be explained any other way. Im wondering if that same effect could be taking place within the water.

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[Furtherman]

Among the Canary Islands is the island of La Palma, which was born of the Cumbre Vieja volcano. The next time it erupts, and if it a large enough eruption, a billion tons of rock will fall into the Atlantic.

From Boston to Miami will be wiped out.

It's an active volcano, with the last eruption in 1949. It's not a question of "if", it is a matter of when.

But chances are it may not happen in our lifetime, or it may happen in short bursts, with eruptions displacing smaller amounts of rock.

Get your scuba gear ready!





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[sr71blackbird]

How come when it erupted last time it didnt wipe out Miami and Boston? Id like it if it wiped out Boston! :)

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[Furtherman]

It will take a large eruption for the rock face to fall. Every few years steam vents from the volcano and it is growing ever so slightly over the years. One day it will pop - big time - and then we'll have about 8 to 9 hours to evacuate the coastal cities.

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[Furtherman]

Well whadda ya know?!

I mention this the other day and suddenly there is a new article about it:

Millions in U.S. Face Mega-Wave from Island Collapse (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=585&e=1&u=/nm/20040809/sc_nm/science_volcano_dc)

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[Jack_Doff]

I read that article this morning and found it to be funny. The scientist is begging desperately for people to pay attention to him although this collapse and resulting tidal wave will happen "some time in the next few thousand years" or roughly at the same time the final episode of the Sopranos will air.

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[Furtherman]

True. Then again, what if someone we to hike up there with a very large bomb, maybe give that volcano a little rattle?

Ok, unlikely, but hey, you never know.

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[Mike Teacher]

Amazing stuff; they put a big wave way ahead of an asteroid impact, and I agree, I just have a feeling there's something else entirely that's missed us so often many have forgotten. We [Upper/Mid-Atlantic States] havent been hit by The Perfect Storm, since, well, in a long ass time. All these houses on the beach in NJ, LI, NY; one real good size one that travels the 'right' path, and well, it won't wipeout Miami to Maine, but...

Florida remembers, but even there I don't know...

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I think the biggest danger we face though? Spray on foods. Just a hunch.

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[Furtherman]

Fla. Braces for Double Dose of Hurricanes (http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1110&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040812%2F0606999191.htm&sc=1110&photoid=20040811FLPC201)

This looks like to be a lot worse than expected. Here comes Charlie!

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[Furtherman]

Secret to Towering Rogue Waves Revealed (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080804/sc_livescience/secrettotoweringroguewavesrevealed;_ylt=Ak_OvXZv08 3hFrPesMGgK6cPLBIF)

For centuries these killer waves had been dismissed as myths - towering walls of water blamed for mysterious disappearances of ships. But on New Year's Day on 1995, a wave that reached more than 80 feet high was detected with scientific instruments at an oil platform in the North Sea, confirming the existence of these legends.

[Furtherman]

Rogue waves hit Maine harbor! (http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2008/11/04/massive_waves_a_mystery_at_maine_harbor/)

Dockworker Marcy Ingall saw a giant wave in the distance last Tuesday afternoon and stopped in her tracks. It was an hour before low tide in Maine's Boothbay Harbor, yet without warning, the muddy harbor floor suddenly filled with rushing, swirling water.

Specialists have posed a variety of possible explanations, saying the waves could have been caused by a powerful storm squall or the slumping of mountains of sediment from a steep canyon in the ocean - a sort of mini tsunami. The last time such rogue waves appeared in Maine was at Bass Harbor in 1926.

A similar occurrence in Florida more than 15 years ago continues to baffle researchers. A series of 12- to 15-foot waves hit Daytona Beach on July 3, 1992, injuring more than 20 people and lifting and tossing dozens of cars.

[IMSlacker]

I was hoping this thread was going to be about the band.

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[topless_mike]

just more proof that god himself hates the city of boston.
he's just testing the waters before he launches his shock and awe.

[Recyclerz]

First Maine, now Cali.

3 Killed by Rogue Wave (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27946642/)


Looks like we've done something to piss Poseidon off. We better take Ron's advice and pave the oceans pronto.

[Recyclerz]

And now Maine again.

Rogue wave sweeps 20 to sea; Young girl dies (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/us/24wave.html?_r=1&hp)

This one was hurricane assisted but I vote it still counts.

[Furtherman]

Giant waves hit cruise ship; 2 passengers killed (http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/03/03/cruise.ship.wave/index.html)

Two passengers aboard a cruise ship were killed when 26-foot waves crashed into the vessel Wednesday, officials said. As many as fourteen others were injured.

The Greek Louis Cruise Lines ship was off the French port of Marseille when it was hit by "abnormal" waves, some more than 26 feet (9 meters) high

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[Aggie]

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i always said i'd never go on a cruise...that just cemented it. i heard about it last week but DAMN! no way you're getting me out in the middle of the ocean.

[Furtherman]

i always said i'd never go on a cruise...that just cemented it. i heard about it last week but DAMN! no way you're getting me out in the middle of the ocean.

To be fair, these waves are rare. Just don't sit near a window!

[underdog]

To be fair, these waves are rare. Just don't sit near a window!

I always get a balcony when I go on cruises. I've also never seen anything close to a large wave.

[Aggie]

To be fair, these waves are rare. Just don't sit near a window!

oh, i know but i've never liked the idea of a cruise. i'm slightly claustrophobic and i'm really scared i'd get out there and realize there is no way for me to get off the boat if i wanted and have a panic attack. i would like to take a trip to italy and croatia though and i've considered taking a boat across the adriatic instead of flying just for the experience.

[TheGameHHH]

oh, i know but i've never liked the idea of a cruise. i'm slightly claustrophobic and i'm really scared i'd get out there and realize there is no way for me to get off the boat if i wanted and have a panic attack. i would like to take a trip to italy and croatia though and i've considered taking a boat across the adriatic instead of flying just for the experience.

normally on most cruises you dock almost every day. so you have the freedom to leave the ship for almost the entire day. youre only really stuck on it at night, think you could make it 12 hours?

[Aggie]

normally on most cruises you dock almost every day. so you have the freedom to leave the ship for almost the entire day. youre only really stuck on it at night, think you could make it 12 hours?

that might work. i never really thought of it that way. i was just in fort lauderdale and my aunt was telling me about the day cruise to the bahamas. maybe i'll start there and see if i can handle it.