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sr71blackbird
06-24-2004, 03:04 AM
I hear some people refer to what I call "tomato sauce" as "gravy". To me, gravy is what you put on mashed potato's. What do you call it?

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Reephdweller
06-24-2004, 03:06 AM
Personally I call it sauce.

Though I know a guy who once called it gravy, and I think we all know what happened to him.

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06-24-2004, 05:09 AM
As I am a WASP raised on Wonderbread and hot dogs, I say "sauce." More specifically, "spaghetti sauce." I call it "Ms. Jackson" if it's nasty.

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BrownTown
06-24-2004, 05:20 AM
This is one of my biggest pet peeves (probably because I'm a stupid guinea WOP that cares way too much about silly things).

Gravy is brown, and for potatoes & roasts.
Sauce is red, and for pasta.

Then again, what the fuck do I know, I call a dishtowel a "Mopeen".

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Hottub
06-24-2004, 05:33 AM
Either sauce or Tuco (http://argentina.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/recetas/msg00641.html)



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Tazz
06-24-2004, 06:35 AM
The red tomato based stuff is sauce. The brown meat based stuff is gravy.

Also, for you southerners, "stuffing" is the bread based substance that goes in/with a turkey. "Dressing" is what goes on a salad.

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jeffdwright2001
06-24-2004, 06:49 AM
There's a big difference between tomato sauce and gravy.

Just ask this guy:
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nickeye
06-24-2004, 07:43 AM
Perhaps it's a Sicilian thing...

Stuff on spaghetti: gravy
Stuff on turkey: brown gravy

Let's call the whole thing off.

jeffdwright2001
06-24-2004, 08:02 AM
Perhaps it's a Sicilian thing...

Stuff on spaghetti: "gravy"

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Crippler
06-24-2004, 08:04 AM
Perhaps it's a Sicilian thing...

Stuff on spaghetti: gravy
Stuff on turkey: brown gravy
Not necessarily. My family is from Naples & we differentiate the same exact way.

- Tomato sauce comes in a can.

- Marinara sauce is a thin, watery substance (made from tomato sauce) which some people put over their spaghetti.

- Gravy is the phenomenon that takes place in large steel pots when a culinary artist combines tomato sauce with a handful of other select ingredients, such as onions, garlic, parsley, Romano cheese, wine, and virgin olive oil. Often it is used in a symbiotic relationship with meats such as sausage, meatballs, pepperoni, and various kinds of pork wherein the meat finishes cooking in the boiling gravy & at the same time provides the gravy with its' signature taste.

But that's just one man's experience.

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TheMojoPin
06-24-2004, 08:05 AM
If somebody calls the stuff on pasta "gravy," what do they call ACTUAL gravy?

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Crippler
06-24-2004, 08:06 AM
We call it brown gravy...or it the instances where it's that awful, yellowish-brown stuff, "turkey gravy."

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jeffdwright2001
06-24-2004, 08:09 AM
If somebody calls the stuff on pasta "gravy," what do they call ACTUAL gravy?
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TheMojoPin
06-24-2004, 08:10 AM
That's madness.

It's like the British calling flashlights "torches"...but not having another name for ACTUAL "torches." It sounds like a whole group of people have just given up on talking.

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sr71blackbird
06-24-2004, 02:39 PM
My familys Sicilian and they also call it "sauce", but I know other Italians that call it "gravy", but to me thats silly.

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fiestygal
06-24-2004, 05:24 PM
people who call it GRAVY should be shot and thrown from something..

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canofsoup15
06-24-2004, 05:35 PM
You can fucking throw me off something because it's gravy. I'm Italian, we call it gravy, I'm sure the other relatives of mine call mashed potatoes gravy "brown" gravy, but i just call that gravy too.

IT'S ALL GRAVVVYYY!

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06-24-2004, 05:39 PM
I call it sauce. You don't see "tomato gravy" out there in the stores-- you see "tomato sauce."

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fiestygal
06-24-2004, 06:14 PM
hey CAN! i am italian too and we call it FUCKING SAUCE!!!!!

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Crippler
06-24-2004, 06:14 PM
I call it sauce. You don't see "tomato gravy" out there in the stores-- you see "tomato sauce."
If you open a can of tomato sauce & pour it right over your pasta...call it whatever you want, I ain't eatin' it. (no offense :) )

In my house tomato sauce is an ingredient used to make gravy. But, to each his own.

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fiestygal
06-24-2004, 06:57 PM
and people who make their tomato SAUCE with ketcup should be shit on and have salt rubbed in their eyes

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Iamnotatool
06-24-2004, 07:00 PM
I call it, period blood.

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JohnnyCash
06-25-2004, 11:15 AM
Tomato sauce is for pasta and Gravy is for meat.

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06-25-2004, 11:24 AM
Gravy is for meat.



And Wavy Gravy is for fun.




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Lumber
07-07-2004, 08:13 PM
Growing up in an all Italian Family, we`ve always called it "Gravy". Just ask Wavy!
Go to Italy and watch how they look at you after you ask that ? .
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blakjeezis
07-07-2004, 08:39 PM
The whole gravy thing is ridiculous. It's just American Italians trying to sound all extra Italian and shit. It's like the same jackasses who say 'manigote' or 'muzzadell'. It's manicotti and mozzarella, greaseball. You don't say 'spaghett' or 'salam' do you, you idiot? We get it; you're Italian. We knew it when you got out of your Camaro wearing an IOU sweatshirt and your mother's mustache.

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Lumber
07-11-2004, 01:43 PM
The whole gravy thing is ridiculous. It's just American Italians trying to sound all extra Italian and shit. It's like the same jackasses who say 'manigote' or 'muzzadell'. It's manicotti and mozzarella, greaseball. You don't say 'spaghett' or 'salam' do you, you idiot? We get it; you're Italian. We knew it when you got out of your Camaro wearing an IOU sweatshirt and your mother's mustache.

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BrownTown
07-11-2004, 02:25 PM
It's just American Italians trying to sound all extra Italian and shit. It's like the same jackasses who say 'manigote' or 'muzzadell'. It's manicotti and mozzarella, greaseball.

While I do think your post is hillarious, you're a bit off base. Being an American of Italian decent, I say "Manigaught", "Mutzadell", "Gabigoal" & "Adigo" (good luck figuring out what that one is, non-guineas), but not because I'm "trying to sound all extra Italian and shit". It's because that's the way these words were introduced to me & pronounced by my family around me. Paint with the broad stroke all you wish, just know that the bit of truth in your jest is miniscule at best. The only national pride I have is that of an American. I get no satisfaction from coming off as "extra Italian".


PS - The red stuff is sauce, not gravy.
Gravy is the brown stuff you put on turkey, or the white dude that plays bass for Monty Love.

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Lumber
07-11-2004, 03:11 PM
It's just American Italians trying to sound all extra Italian and shit. It's like the same jackasses who say 'manigote' or 'muzzadell'. It's manicotti and mozzarella, greaseball.

While I do think your post is hillarious, you're a bit off base. Being an American of Italian decent, I say "Manigaught", "Mutzadell", "Gabigoal" & "Adigo" (good luck figuring out what that one is, non-guineas), but not because I'm "trying to sound all extra Italian and shit". It's because that's the way these words were introduced to me & pronounced by my family around me. Paint with the broad stroke all you wish, just know that the bit of truth in your jest is miniscule at best. The only national pride I have is that of an American. I get no satisfaction from coming off as "extra Italian".


PS - The red stuff is sauce, not gravy.
Gravy is the brown stuff you put on turkey, or the white dude that plays bass for Monty Love.

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TheMojoPin
07-11-2004, 03:12 PM
A friend of mine who's a professional chef was speaking to a woman in his cooking class, and she was going on and on about how she loved cooking Italian food more than anything else in the world.

When she finally asked him if he enjoyed cooking it, his response was, "oh, no, I don't like lazy cooking."

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Marist Mike
07-11-2004, 04:47 PM
If it's brown than it's gravy if it goes on spaghetti and is red......simple as that......

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Justice4all
07-12-2004, 08:53 AM
There's a big difference between tomato sauce and gravy.

Just ask this guy:
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fiestygal
07-12-2004, 09:52 AM
this whole time, in my head, i have been throwing people off buildings, bridges, adn other high places because they call SAUCE , gravy.......

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kevcala
07-12-2004, 10:59 AM
It's because that's the way these words were introduced to me & pronounced by my family around me.

I do the same thing with ganole for cannoli and galimad for calimari. It's just the way I was taught to say it. I'd feel like more of an idiot saying cannoli, because it doesn't feel right for me. On a side note though, my family does call the parts of a dresser "draws", and when I went to college far away from Bayonne, I forced myself to say drawer. Everytime my mom says draw now, I cringe.

Besides, I don't think pronounciation thing is an Italian thing, I believe it's an Italian-American thing. In Italy I think they pronouce it cannoli with the 'c'. I'm not sure, I'm only half wop.

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silks
10-27-2008, 05:15 AM
A friend brought up an interesting argument which sparked a debate here at work. When making pasta (or macaroni, as some would say), do you serve it with 'gravy' or with 'sauce'???

Aneurysm
10-27-2008, 05:17 AM
it seems that if you say macaroni you automatically say gravy. Its sauce.

sr71blackbird
10-27-2008, 01:51 PM
I think the "gravy" people are hayseeds

Lady Resin
10-27-2008, 02:18 PM
Here in my town where some episodes of the Sopranos were shot, it's gravy. And for being Irish, I make a mean one.

mendyweiss
10-27-2008, 02:30 PM
The whole gravy thing is ridiculous. It's just American Italians trying to sound all extra Italian and shit. It's like the same jackasses who say 'manigote' or 'muzzadell'. It's manicotti and mozzarella, greaseball. You don't say 'spaghett' or 'salam' do you, you idiot? We get it; you're Italian. We knew it when you got out of your Camaro wearing an IOU sweatshirt and your mother's mustache.

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ChimneyFish
10-27-2008, 02:45 PM
I always found the rule of thumb to be:

it's gravy for regular macaroni, meatballs, etc. And if you're making a pasta dish(i.e. lasagna), and it's a bit dry, it needs more sauce.

underdog
10-27-2008, 02:58 PM
Rule of thumb is : If you're some retard from NY or NJ, you say gravy. If you're an actual adult with a brain, you say sauce.

sailor
10-27-2008, 03:41 PM
if you say gravy for a red sauce you're either wicked pretentious or way too connected to your italian roots (ie - you’re connected to them at all).

ChimneyFish
10-27-2008, 04:06 PM
Rule of thumb is : If you're some retard from NY or NJ, you say gravy. If you're an actual adult with a brain, you say sauce.

What would we do without you to tell us how to behave????

underdog
10-27-2008, 04:14 PM
What would we do without you to tell us how to behave????

If not for me, humankind would cease to exist.

if you say gravy for a red sauce you're either wicked pretentious or way too connected to your italian roots (ie - you’re connected to them at all).

Except that people from Italy don't actually call it gravy. It's just the American "italians" that call it gravy.

ChimneyFish
10-27-2008, 04:19 PM
Except that people from Italy don't actually call it gravy. It's just the American "italians" that call it gravy.

What's wrong wit da Italians we got????

sr71blackbird
10-27-2008, 04:21 PM
My Rule:


http://www.symingtons.com/images/brands/crosseandblackwell/gravy_mixes.jpg = Gravy


http://www.leftoverqueen.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/03_sauce_pan.jpg = Sauce

ChimneyFish
10-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Looks like you assfucks were right.

From Dictionary.com:

Gra"vy\, n.; pl. Gravies. [OE. greavie; prob. fr. greaves, graves, the sediment of melted tallow. See Greaves.]

1. The juice or other liquid matter that drips from flesh in cooking, made into a dressing for the food when served up.

2. Liquid dressing for meat, fish, vegetables, etc.

And from Wikipedia:

Tomato gravy, which is distinct from the term as used by northeastern Italian Americans when referring to tomato sauce, is a gravy common in most rural areas where tomatoes were a staple food. Tomato gravy is prepared in a method similar to white gravy. The cooked tomatoes, some fat (usually cured pork fat) and flour are cooked together until thick, and seasoned with salt and pepper. Typically, tomato gravy is served over eggs, toast and biscuits.

underdog
10-27-2008, 04:49 PM
Looks like you assfucks were right.

I've never been happier to be an assfuck.

ChimneyFish
10-27-2008, 04:51 PM
I've never been happier to be an assfuck.

Fishing for modquotes????:tongue:

IamFogHat
10-27-2008, 04:53 PM
I hear some people refer to what I call "tomato sauce" as "gravy". To me, gravy is what you put on mashed potato's. What do you call it?

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