Iraqi Militias disband, Iraqis accepting govt

[NewYorkDragons80]

9 militias, 100,000 men integrated into government (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=1&u=/nm/20040607/ts_nm/iraq_militias_dc_3)

Iraqis accepting new government (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=5365626)


Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi announced the deal, which will see most of the militia fighters reintegrated into Iraq's new security forces while others are retrained for jobs in civilian life or go into retirement with a pension.


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[Furtherman]

Yea, this will work.

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[SilentSpic]

How are the Iraqi's going to accept the new government? By killing more Americans?

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[Tazz]

Yea, this will work.


Way to be optimistic.



How are the Iraqi's going to accept the new government? By killing more Americans?


Yea, because everyone knows that it is your average everyday Iraqi that is killing people. Get real.

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This message was edited by Tazz on 6-8-04 @ 12:18 PM

[JPMNICK]

I really hope this works out so we can shove it in the face of the rest of the world. And I want our troops to come home with a sense of accomplishment and to be proud of what they did.

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[Furtherman]

Way to be optimistic.


Just being realistic.

And JPMNICK, I really hope that as well.

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[FMJeff]

It will be a shame if the Bush Administration is credited with the peaceful renovation of Iraq. I hope it works out, I really do, but I refuse to accept the positive results of this war as the genuine intention of this administration.


farenheight 9/11...why are you NOT OUT YET!!

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[reeshy]

It will be a shame if the Bush Administration is credited with the peaceful renovation of Iraq. I hope it works out, I really do, but I refuse to accept the positive results of this war as the genuine intention of this administration.


OK, Jeff, tell me who should get the credit....it just so happens that it IS the Bush dministration who is in power now and who is negotiating for this government. Are you going to tell me it was the Clinton or Kerry "administrations" that are orchestrating all of this????? Be real!!!!!!

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[Patches]

OK, Jeff, tell me who should get the credit....


Isn't it obvious?!?! France!!

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[Tall_James]

OK, Jeff, tell me who should get the credit....


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[blakjeezis]

farenheight 9/11...why are you NOT OUT YET!!

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This message was edited by blakjeezis on 6-8-04 @ 2:22 PM

[JPMNICK]

If this works out, with a stable government in Iraq, this was a success. There was a minimum of US casualities (I thought I read this week that on D-Day alone over 10,000 troops died). It is a shame that even 1 person has to die, but sometimes shit just needs to get taken care of. That place was a mess, WMD or not. Sadaam hated us and had no quams about hiding and aiding terrorists. In 10 years, the people will be happy. Change is traumatising, even if you are changing from a dictator to freedom. They are still scared and shell shocked. They will become more accustomed to the new life style, and hopefully remember and appreciate who helped them get there.

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[FUNKMAN]

i was against going in to begin with and i still feel that the 'main' reasons for going in were 'personal and big business' related...

after spending well over a hundred billion dollars and the loss of many american and iraqi lives there 'should' be something positive coming out of this...

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[Yerdaddy]

While the militia story is good news, it's not as good people here seem to think. By 'militias' they don't mean 'insurgents.' The militias covered by the agreement are the private forces of groups that were already represented on the Iraqi Governing Council. In other words, these were the groups that were already on our sides. The largest group is the Kurdish peshmergas, who have been our allies since the establishment of the autonomous Kurdish region under the no-fly zone shortly after the first Gulf War. The other militias involved belong to the INC, SCIRI, and the INA, alll of whom have representatives in the new interim government.

So this is an integration of our allies, not our enemies in Iraq.

The other headline is an optimistic opinion of Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy to the transitional governing process. It's good that he is optimistic, but it remains to be seen whether the Iraqi people really do accept the interim government as legitimate, and even more importantly, the process for choosing the permanent government next year.

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[JPMNICK]

I think one of the most promising things is that we have set aside money to help pay these people for their duties. I think they will help us by showing the Iraqi people that we are there to help and make a difference. I may be WAY off on this, but I think setting these guys up with jobs will help get them all on the same page and working towards the same goal, nationwide peace.

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[HBox]

For a fair and balanced view of Michael Moore, and his films, go here:

A site called "Michael Moore hates America" is a "fair and balanced" view of him? Is this the FOX version of "fair and balanced?"

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[NewYorkDragons80]

While the militia story is good news, it's not as good people here seem to think. By 'militias' they don't mean 'insurgents.'
Yes, but it is a sign that almost all the major groups of Iraq are on the same page, working as a single nation. The only outstanding exception is the Mehdi militia led by al-Sadr.

True, this isn't a sign of insurgents throwing down their weapons and switching sides, but it is a sign of purpose, employment, and unification for the people of Iraq.

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[reeshy]

A site called "Michael Moore hates America" is a "fair and balanced" view of him? Is this the FOX version of "fair and balanced?"



A better question is...Is Michael Moore fair and balanced????????

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[FMJeff]

It will be a shame if the Bush Administration is credited with the peaceful renovation of Iraq. I hope it works out, I really do, but I refuse to accept the positive results of this war as the genuine intention of this administration.


OK, Jeff, tell me who should get the credit....it just so happens that it IS the Bush dministration who is in power now and who is negotiating for this government. Are you going to tell me it was the Clinton or Kerry "administrations" that are orchestrating all of this????? Be real!!!!!!

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When I said "administration" I meant just Bush. I'm sure there's some competent people working under him that actually care about people.

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[Yerdaddy]

Yes, but it is a sign that almost all the major groups of Iraq are on the same page, working as a single nation. The only outstanding exception is the Mehdi militia led by al-Sadr.
...and the insurgency. Not to downplay this too much but the people who need to understand the fact that the majority of Iraqis want the occupation and democratic transition for Iraq to work are Americans. Particularly the ones who take every opportunity to stereotype the Iraqis with "they hate us!" and "savages" every time there's a story or a picture of something horrible happening in Iraq. It's here where the worst acts of any Iraqis are assumed to be reflective of the Iraqi people as a whole, not Iraq.
<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/87/Topic/38448/page/Iraris_cheer_on_top_of_US_dead.htm" target="_blank">For example</a>

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[HBox]

A better question is...Is Michael Moore fair and balanced????????

I never said he was. But I'm not going to a site called "Michael Moore hates America" and expecting an objective opinion.

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[TheMojoPin]

farenheight 9/11...why are you NOT OUT YET!!

For a fair and balanced view of Michael Moore, and his films, go here:

Michael Moore's a Big, Fat Idiot (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com)

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 6-8-04 @ 2:22 PM

That's not balanced at all.

Go to SpinSanity.com (http://www.spinsanity.com) instead and plug his name into the search engine.

I hope the new government works out in the long run, and this seems like a BIG step in the right direction. Politics, partisan, whatever...I just want this to work, and I don't care WHO gets it done.

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