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Teenweek
04-08-2004, 03:00 PM
Why do every other week do they put another X cup on? It is basically killing it. It was great teh first time. Very good the second time. Ok the third time. Now it's like I lost count. When is the France vs Germany Xcup or Phillipines vs Nigeria Xcup? If it's not people you don't know, no one gives a flying fuck. Do this like every 3 or so months not every other week.

Iamnotatool
04-08-2004, 03:34 PM
What's up with TNA?



It's boring people to tears. Even RF Mark is less of a mark these days.

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Se7en
04-08-2004, 04:39 PM
I blame Dutch Mantell.

And Jarrett, to some extent. Russo's apparently back to writing for them again, but whatever he does gets HEAVILY edited by Dutch & Jarrett.

The X Cup is a great concept, and one can clearly see that it was designed to interest and appeal to the workrate freaks (like me), but they've overexposed it at this point. Team AAA v. Team NWA was fine, but they should really have pulled the trigger and brought over a real Team Japan to compete (Nosawa would have been fine, they could have brought in his frequent tag partner Masada, and a couple other good lightweights - like maybe Naomichi Marufuji or KENTA or Tiger Mask IV. Or hell, stick the mask back on Daniels and let him do the Curry Man schtick). Instead we got Team Europe / Britain, who were.....pretty much a bunch of pasty white scrubs who no one had ever heard of and who really weren't anything to care about. Which kind of serves them right for not going out and hiring actual good Euro / British wrestlers like Doug Williams or Nigel McGuiness (or hell, they could have even brought back Jonny Storm), but I digress.

They should retire the gimmick for a few months, and bring it back at the end of the summer. Maybe they can work on replacing some of Team AAA while they're at it (Aguila & Garza are decent enough, but Negro should be replaced. Even Electro Shock or Charley Manson would be a better choice than him (although I suppose they can always do worse and pick Cibernetico). Heavy Metal might be a good guy to replace too, as he usually needs a nice dose of coke to make him a better worker. At the least, they should go ahead and hire Juventud FULL TIME.

Better yet, though, replace the AAA guys (except Juvi) with CMLL workers. Shit, they have so many better workers than AAA.....I would MARK like a little bitch to see Los Guerreros Del Infierno run wild over everyone (maybe THE best rudo tag team today). Or they could pick Shocker, or Olimpico, or Ricky Marvin, or Tarzan Boy, or Zumbido, or La Parka (especially RUDO~! Parka)......hell, even Atlantis can be a damn good worker if he's got motivated guys to work with.

Of course, the best reason to work with CMLL: El Brazo de Plata.

Dear sweet merciful heaven, how the TNA crowd would mark for Super Porky.

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BigKilla
04-08-2004, 05:31 PM
My concern is, should I hit record before or after Chris Harris' speach about stealling from TNA?

AnaTickle
04-09-2004, 08:17 PM
I want to know why they have to have a 4 way with Abyss, A.J. Styles, Raven and The Truth, for the winner to go against, Chris Harris?!?! Didn't Chris Harris LOSE against Jarett for his chance for the title??? He had his shot, now move back down the roster. Making him the stepping stone to get to Jarett is a waste. And I still say, 2 weeks ago, Raven had NOTHING to do with A.J. losing against Abyss. Raven stood on the ring apron, stupid A.J. was on the ladder. He should have kept is eyes on Abyss, but noooooo. So Abyss pushes him over the ropes and he hits that ladder between the ring and the side railing, HAHAHA. And also in A.J.'s defense, he should have had a title shot way back in January or February when he was all that noise was going on about the new "Director of Authority". But instead, they started pushing him off to weekly A.J. vs. Abyss matches. Grrrrrr. And get rid of Sonny Siaki, always losing. And D'lo Brown too. Waste.

IAMTHEGAME
04-11-2004, 09:23 AM
I liked the fact their was a new promotion in the beginning but quite frankly TNA is the worst bullshit I ever seen in my opinion of course.It is a 2004 version of Nitro with every used up jacked up loser who should be retired and every second rate no good piece of trash the WWE has no use for.I admit their are handful of guys that are great such as AJ and Fallen Angel ,LowKi Raven, Jerry Lynn,you know the guys I mean its great that they have a place they could wrestle.Iwish TNA would rise up and become Big Fed #2 but until then their just #2.We dont need to see Sting hes old he sucks and I dont want to see that loser.I dont want no Glenn Gilberti or Jeff Jarrett or Vince Russo or even Mike Tenay its stale, its old ,its boring.All of their ppv's should be 1 penny like they did last year.Harris boys? Red Shirts? Erik Watts? I'd rather watch Eugene Dinsmore,Hell Ill watch Triple H bang a corpse on Raw,just get Nitro I mean Tna off until its worth watching! Im sorry this was a long post but Icant stand that garbage and Iknow some of you like it,thats great Ihope somebody wakes up and makes it a great promotion,but its not going to be Hogan or Russo or Abyss or Johnny Fairplay.It should be guys like Michael Shane and Chris Sabin and Homicide and Super Crazy and Shane Douglas and American Dragon.Take all the good young indy guys that would be awesome but no Thank God they have Konan and a washed up Road Dogg and Chris Harris.Chris who?Sign Kanyon, bring in Steve Corino.I DONT WANT TO SEE LEX LUGER!EVERYONE THAT HAS EVER LIKED WRESTLING HATES VINCE RUSSO WITH A PASSION!DISCO INFERNO SUCKS ASS!Again im sorry for the long post but my intelligence is insulted more by this nonsense then the EASTER Bunny being in a Bar Room Brawl with the Conquistadors and Doink.Ilove the WWE and I dont care if everyone needs an alternative Ihope there will be a another promotion but let TNA die just like WCW did!

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RF Godfather
04-11-2004, 09:49 AM
I want to know why they have to have a 4 way with Abyss, A.J. Styles, Raven and The Truth, for the winner to go against, Chris Harris?!?! Didn't Chris Harris LOSE against Jarett for his chance for the title??? He had his shot, now move back down the roster. Making him the stepping stone to get to Jarett is a waste.Well the reasoning behind it is that Russo thought that "Heatless" Chris Harris would have beaten Jarrett cleanly without the inference. [Yeah sure.] This week, Harris vs. Raven and from what I am hearing Harris should take this and win the title. But Russo and the Bookers have been flipflopping with this decision. One more flips guys.

And I still say, 2 weeks ago, Raven had NOTHING to do with A.J. losing against Abyss. Raven stood on the ring apron, stupid A.J. was on the ladder. He should have kept is eyes on Abyss, but noooooo. So Abyss pushes him over the ropes and he hits that ladder between the ring and the side railing, HAHAHA.Does it really matter? They needed some way to have a 4 way feud for the contendership, I thought it was a fine buildup.

And also in A.J.'s defense, he should have had a title shot way back in January or February when he was all that noise was going on about the new "Director of Authority". But instead, they started pushing him off to weekly A.J. vs. Abyss matches. Grrrrrr.What? Those were awesome matches and a great feud that increased the stock of both men in TNA as well as sports-entertainment. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

And get rid of Sonny Siaki, always losing. And D'lo Brown too. Waste. Siaki is slowly getting his well deserved push back and you will see why he is going to be THE NEXT BIG THING!

D'Lo has really never been respected and he will eventually gain the TNA title down the line like Lynn.

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RF Godfather
04-11-2004, 10:05 AM
I liked the fact their was a new promotion in the beginning but quite frankly TNA is the worst bullshit I ever seen in my opinion of course.Explain.

It is a 2004 version of Nitro with every used up jacked up loser who should be retired and every second rate no good piece of trash the WWE has no use for.Have you watched the product lately?

I admit their are handful of guys that are great such as AJ and Fallen Angel ,LowKi Raven, Jerry Lynn,you know the guys I mean its great that they have a place they could wrestle.There are more than a handful, you WWE mark!

Iwish TNA would rise up and become Big Fed #2 but until then their just #2.We dont need to see Sting hes old he sucks and I dont want to see that loser.I dont want no Glenn Gilberti or Jeff Jarrett or Vince Russo or even Mike Tenay its stale, its old ,its boring.Sting really shows up once or twice every 2 months or so and he still gets a pop. You cannot deny that.

Gilberti is already off the booking and is slowly getting pushed away from the PPVs. Basically just teaming with an ever improving David Young.

Jarrett is still a solid mic man as well as wrestler. He is going to drop the title for a long time to either Harris or Raven. Hopefully it is Raven! It is his destiny dammit!

Russo has done nothing but good since returning although I would like to see the cagedancers and Lolly shaking it.

Tenay is ten times better than JR and the King. Be serious!

All of their ppv's should be 1 penny like they did last year.Huh?

Harris boys?Disbanded. Big Ron is with Macho somewhere and The AlphaMale took out head of security, Heavy D with a vicious beating.

Red Shirts?No more. Northcutt and Legend will be returning soon as single's wrestlers in a more dominate fashion.

Erik Watts?Again, not here. TNA doesn't know what to do with him and that is fine with me.

I'd rather watch Eugene Dinsmore,Mr. Wrestling Nick Dinsmore is an excellent real wrestler and without the gimmick he is already over in my eyes. I just hope that angle doesn't go over so he can strip that gimmick like Lance Storm is currently doing.

Hell Ill watch Triple H bang a corpse on Raw,just get Nitro I mean Tna off until its worth watching!You REALLY havcen't been watching the evolution of the TNA product.

Im sorry this was a long post but Icant stand that garbage and Iknow some of you like it,thats great Ihope somebody wakes up and makes it a great promotion,but its not going to be Hogan or Russo or Abyss or Johnny Fairplay.Hogan is coming from what is being said. Russo may retire by next year which I hope it doesn't.

Abyss is a tremendous young Rhyno-esque athlete. You are blind!

Johnny Fairplay is no longer on TNA because they really don't think that his gimmcik is getting over. Better in my eyes.

It should be guys like Michael Shane and Chris Sabin and Homicide and Super Crazy and Shane Douglas and American Dragon.Shane is better in tag matches. Sabin was the TNA X-Title holder until his knee injury.

Didn't know Douglas was a "good young indy guy."

Take all the good young indy guys that would be awesome but no Thank God they have Konan and a washed up Road Dogg and Chris Harris.3LK still gets a solid pop whether you like it or not and they are entertaining.

Chris Harris has ways to go and shouldn't be main eventing but they really like this Edge lookalike. He really is weak on the mic though.

Sign Kanyon, bring in Steve Corino.I DONT WANT TO SEE LEX LUGER!EVERYONE THAT HAS EVER LIKED WRESTLING HATES VINCE RUSSO WITH A PASSION!DISCO INFERNO SUCKS ASS!Again im sorry for the long post but my intelligence is insulted more by this nonsense then the EASTER Bunny being in a Bar Room Brawl with the Conquistadors and Doink.Kanyon is almost wrapped up. Corino is not interested in TNA right now with Russo here. Luger isn't here if you notic

IAMTHEGAME
04-11-2004, 10:23 AM
TNA mark!I appreciate that you broke down my opinion sentence by sentence and for the record I wasnt refering to Shane Douglas as a young indy guy I was grouping him in with guys Iwant to see.I cant believe you think Tenay is better then J.R.Just listen to what you are saying...Alpha Male,Heavy D, Head of Security, WHAT ? I bet you would put over ICP and hey maybe they could get the Shockmaster and he could feud with Zeus.Give me a break.Maybe theyll stick Luger back on the Lex Express.

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RF Godfather
04-11-2004, 10:39 AM
TNA mark!Well I am but I am also a WWE mark. You know that I know people in TNA right?

I appreciate that you broke down my opinion sentence by sentence and for the record I wasnt refering to Shane Douglas as a young indy guy I was grouping him in with guys Iwant to see.You are very welcome. *sigh*

I cant believe you think Tenay is better then J.R.Most definitely! 100%!

Just listen to what you are saying...Alpha Male,Heavy D, Head of Security, WHAT ?You really do not see the potential in his gimmick and pretty solid ability and mic skills.

If you did read this forum I did think that it would be a more positive than negative thing. I was wrong and I admitted it.

[quote]and hey maybe they could get the Shockmaster and he could feud with Zeus.Give me a break.Maybe theyll stick Luger back on the Lex Express.Blind, blind Yankee fan.


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IAMTHEGAME
04-11-2004, 10:48 AM
You know people in TNA?Wow the product is great?I love Glenn Gilberti!LOL Good for you no wonder why your putting them over!I hope you dont think thats what will change my mind.I'm not entitled to an opinion on their product?

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RF Godfather
04-11-2004, 10:56 AM
That is fine and good but you are literally bashing everything. That I do not approve of.

Well, answer me this. Are you a Yankee fan?

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IAMTHEGAME
04-11-2004, 11:01 AM
Hell yeah Im a Yankee fan what does that have to do with TNA?You want to battle over whose better ? That would be a big waste of time.Im not a Yankee fan from 1996-present either.In my family its Yankees or nothing.If you look at my other post I said im done going back and forth Good luck to TNA I hope it gets me intrested one day!

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Hosp
04-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Tenay is ten times better than JR and the King. Be serious!


Not anymore. It's the same way JR has lost it, so has Tenay. Back in the day, he was the go to guy for all of the technical info, now he's just a shill trying to be a character.

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SpicyMcHaggis
04-11-2004, 12:08 PM
Watch the damn product then you can talk smack. You know nothing!


PREACH THE GOOD WORD BROTHER! LET THOSE WHO ARE BLIND SEE THE LIGHT THAT IS TNA!!!

By the way, I just looked at my quote. Where the heck is HighFly?

"And they ask me why HighFly drinks."

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IAMTHEGAME
04-11-2004, 12:15 PM
If TNA is the light I'd rather be blind!

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RF Godfather
04-11-2004, 12:23 PM
Gary does have a point although I still like Tenay better. As long as Tenay is not part of an angle, it would be more benefitial to him.

PREACH THE GOOD WORD BROTHER! LET THOSE WHO ARE BLIND SEE THE LIGHT THAT IS TNA!!!Thanks right Spicy. I try.

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SpicyMcHaggis
04-11-2004, 12:58 PM
Yo, Mark, you gotta give me your sn so we can chat bout what others think is so called "crap."

Anyone who wants to talk to me, Mikey S 128 is the sn, just try and convince me that TNA is worse than any of the WWE shows, except for Velocity.

"And they ask me why HighFly drinks."

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IAMTHEGAME
04-11-2004, 06:04 PM
Will the real TNA haters please stand up.Dont worry about voicing your opinion,Its cool I have nothing against these guys personally Im just saying TNA isnt my cup of tea okay is it fair to say that at least.These friggin guys are converging forming thier Kliq(no pun intended) and all I wanted to do was make my opinion known whats everyones deal?Is their anyone that feels what im saying about TNA?

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Heather 8
04-11-2004, 06:46 PM
Oh, e-fucking-NOUGH already!

This "my fed's better than your fed" stuff was really weak when WWF, WCW, and ECW fans did it five years ago, and it's even weaker now, given the uneven product on both sides.

If you hate TNA, fine, but don't keep repeating it in every other post you make. And if you think WWe is the shits, fine and dandy, but again knock off the ad nauseum attacks.

However, Trips-hating shall continue without interuptions. ;p

And yes, I'm in a really pissy mood. So bite me. Twice.

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Se7en
04-11-2004, 07:37 PM
Siaki is slowly getting his well deserved push back and you will see why he is going to be THE NEXT BIG THING!

D'Lo has really never been respected and he will eventually gain the TNA title down the line like Lynn.


Siaki isn't where I'd want him to be at this point but he has promise, and is still miles ahead of some of the dead weight attached to him in the past - like Jamal (AWFUL) or David Young (decent enough worker, ZERO charisma).

D-Lo is a very underrated and underappreciated worker.

Sting really shows up once or twice every 2 months or so and he still gets a pop. You cannot deny that.

He's still fairly over AND he's used sparingly enough. He's been a good investment, IMO.

Jarrett is still a solid mic man as well as wrestler. He is going to drop the title for a long time to either Harris or Raven. Hopefully it is Raven! It is his destiny dammit!

Jarrett has gotten a LOT of shit from mark and smark alike, but he's always been a good worker and somewhat underappreciated in times past.

However, he does need to drop the title and move out of the title picture for a good long while.

Russo has done nothing but good since returning although I would like to see the cagedancers and Lolly shaking it.

They don't need to add the TNA shit again. It's just a waste of money.

However, Russo is actually something of an asset to TNA.

Tenay is ten times better than JR and the King. Be serious!

Not only that, but at this point, Don West is better than King.

Yes, WWE marks, admit it. Two years ago Don West was schilling cheap shit on home shopping channels, but since then he's developed into a BETTER color commentator than Lawler, who at this point is nothing but a pale shade of what he once was.

Abyss is a tremendous young Rhyno-esque athlete. You are blind!

And you, Mark, are doing a disservice to Abyss.

Abyss is a FAR better big-man worker than Rhyno ever was. Or ever will be. Why the WWE hasn't tried to snatch him already I haven't a clue.

It should be guys like Michael Shane and Chris Sabin and Homicide and Super Crazy and Shane Douglas and American Dragon.

Shane is generally sucky unless he has a better worker to carry him to decent matches. I've seen guys like A.J. Styles or John Walters or even Nate Webb pull good matches out of Shane, but on his own he's nothing special.

Homicide would be a solid midcard talent for TNA.

Super Crazy is very overrated. His ECW work was a LONG time ago and his work in CMLL has been, largely, shitty.

Douglas is good on the mike but should be retired by now.

American Dragon is too busy working Japan to commit to weekly TV.

3LK still gets a solid pop whether you like it or not and they are entertaining.


This I do have to call you on, Mark. Outside of Killings, there's not much worth in keeping 3LK around. There's CERTAINLY no point in paying Road Dogg what he's getting paid for. He sucked in the WWE for chrissakes.

I cant believe you think Tenay is better then J.R.


You say that as if it's hard to be better than JR. Michael Cole's better than JR. Hell, Al Snow is better than JR....or at least he would be if he wised up and realized that his stupid "Bobbaganuch" schtick wasn't funny the first 395 times we heard it.

Tenay is DEFINITELY better than J.R.

And yes, I'm in a really pissy mood. So bite me. Twice.

That time of the month, huh? [/chauvinist]

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Heather 8
04-11-2004, 07:52 PM
Make that three times, just for you, dear.

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Hosp
04-12-2004, 07:41 AM
I <3 Peachy.

That's why I don't get into it with that stuff. But I'll call someone on something I don't agree with on substance.


And anyway, everyone knows ROH is the shit.



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04-12-2004, 08:01 AM
What channel is ROH on? ;)

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Heather 8
04-12-2004, 04:13 PM
What channel is ROH on? ;)


So many replies, all of them so, so, so very wrong.

Thanks for the unclean feeling in my brain, Robby.

(All apologies to Hosp... I know you support them, but for me it'll take a long time for the stigma to fade away.)

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Se7en
04-12-2004, 04:32 PM
Agreed.

Considering how INCREDIBLY poorly RoH has handled the whole RF situation, I'm now about 99% sure he's STILL with the company.

And as such, they get none of my business.

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JustJon
04-12-2004, 04:43 PM
What channel is ROH on? ;)


So many replies, all of them so, so, so very wrong.

And that's stopped people on this board before?

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Hosp
04-13-2004, 09:22 AM
I always forget my sarcasm tags.

I just figured if I said JAP it would be too inside.

(At least JAP is on Staten Island Public access)

And I used to. I only went to the 3/13 show because I had my tickets, and I wanted to see what Piper would do. Of course he no showed, and it was all a waste of my time.

I'm not a blind shill for a promotion, I'm just concerened for my friends that are there.

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Heather 8
04-13-2004, 01:56 PM
I always forget my sarcasm tags.

I just figured if I said JAP it would be too inside.


See, that reference I would have gotten.

Stupid, stupid Peachy...

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