HELLBOY

[FMJeff]

I can't WAIT until this Friday. Hellboy is going to fucking ROCK. I admit I am NOT a big fan of Mignola's style, but the movie looks excellent.



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It made my heart sing.

[furie]

Hellboy is the poor man's Lobo.



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[Tall_James]

Lobo is the poor man's Wolverine


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[Freakshow]

I think we need to consult Maddox for this one:
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What they really need to do is make a movie about the greatest comic book character of all time: Lobo. Not many people are familiar with Lobo because most people are lame and can't comprehend how much ass Lobo kicks. For example, the cover on the right depicts Lobo (also known as "the main man") kicking Santa's ass. Santa did something to piss Lobo off (or nothing, it makes no difference), and Lobo RUINED HIS SHIT. Lobo is a mean son of a bitch and doesn't take shit from anyone. If they made a movie about Lobo, it would start out with Lobo just sitting around looking at porn and minding his own business when some lame-ass comes by and starts nerding all over the place. Lobo takes his knife out and disembowels the guy while he's just standing there. The guy would start screaming because he's a pussy, then Lobo would reach down and rip the guy's lungs out. The rest of the movie would be mostly filled with Lobo wiping out villages of people, yelling at hospital patients and head-butting mimes. Lobo could kick any superhero's ass and it's high time he had his own movie.

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The rest of the movie would be mostly filled with Lobo <br>wiping out villages of people, yelling at hospital patients <br>and head-butting mimes.

[phixion]

Lobo could kick any superhero's ass


no

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[Furtherman]

What they really need to do is make a movie about the greatest comic book character of all time: Lobo


Here's the Lobo I Know (http://members.aol.com/KatieKat91490/Lobo.WMV)

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...with thanks to JustJon

[Patches]

I'll admit I don't know a first thing about the comic, but going by the commercials, it looks a bit on the cheez side. The dialogue seems like poop:

"We are the ones who bump back."
"Skip to the end will ya! How do I kill it?"

Give me a break.

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[furie]

The dialogue seems like poop:


whoa, watch the blue, Tupac.


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[Patches]

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This message was edited by Patches on 3-30-04 @ 1:39 PM

[JustJon]

There's already talks for a Lobo movie. Lobo is a one note character and was really only good in the first miniseries.

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[Tall_James]

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"A movie...about me? AWESOME !!!"


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[jeffdwright2001]

The only thing better than one lobo is

http://www.greatseatsusa.com/concerts/c_los_lobos.jpg

[DarkHippie]

Feh! I'd rather see a Guy Gardner movie than Lobo.

I've said it before, but I think garth ennis's "Hitman" would make a great movie.

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[furie]

Guy Gardner is and always was a pussy.



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[CaptClown]

It'll be on my list to watch, right after "Jimmy Olsen, 'Superman's Pal' and right before the 'Legion of Substitute Heros'.








I want my cut if they actually make this lame ass movie.

This message was edited by CaptClown on 3-30-04 @ 10:23 PM

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[Recyclerz]

Since this thread is already so far in the woods and off of the tracks...

http://www.stars-on-7-inch.com/index_l/lobo/me_and_you.jpg

I think only Funkman may be old enough to get this one.



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[phixion]

anyone see it yet?

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[jeffdwright2001]

I thought about seeing it tonight (in Fairfax or DC) or tomorrow - haven't decided yet.

If I do it'll be solo - the wife's in New York for a few days.

[RocOutWithYACockOUT]

What they really need to do is make a movie about the greatest comic book character of all time: Lobo. Not many people are familiar with Lobo because most people are lame and can't comprehend how much ass Lobo kicks. For example, the cover on the right depicts Lobo (also known as "the main man") kicking Santa's ass. Santa did something to piss Lobo off (or nothing, it makes no difference), and Lobo RUINED HIS SHIT. Lobo is a mean son of a bitch and doesn't take shit from anyone. If they made a movie about Lobo, it would start out with Lobo just sitting around looking at porn and minding his own business when some lame-ass comes by and starts nerding all over the place. Lobo takes his knife out and disembowels the guy while he's just standing there. The guy would start screaming because he's a pussy, then Lobo would reach down and rip the guy's lungs out. The rest of the movie would be mostly filled with Lobo wiping out villages of people, yelling at hospital patients and head-butting mimes. Lobo could kick any superhero's ass and it's high time he had his own movie.


and this is cool because....

http://members.hometown.aol.com/gpigking/myhomepage/rocout.gif?mtbrand=AOL_US

[FMJeff]

Since this thread is already so far in the woods and off of the tracks...

http://www.stars-on-7-inch.com/index_l/lobo/me_and_you.jpg

I think only Funkman may be old enough to get this one.



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It made my heart sing.

[Freakshow]

and this is cool because....

It's just Maddox being silly on The Best Page in the Universe. It just makes me laugh. I'm not really sure why.





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[furie]

I saw it, and liked it.
The ending seemed a little too easy though.


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[smiler grogan]

Furie, I agree
I saw it last night and really enjoyed it except for the ending. For example Hellboy had a few extended fight scences with the hellhound creatures that lasted a while. Then at the end when this massive creature emerges he kills it in a few minutes. Overall though it was fun.

[DESERTEAGLE.50]

It was a wild romp.

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This message was edited by DESERTEAGLE.50 on 4-4-04 @ 11:11 PM

[newport king]

at the end when this massive creature emerges he kills it in a few minutes.

way to ruin it.

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This message was edited by newport king on 4-4-04 @ 11:16 PM

[FMJeff]

Visually it was spectacular...for a comic book movie this is probably one of the best i've seen so far...however, it does have its flaws....i thought the writing was a little heavy handed...selma blair could've looked hotter...and kronen's sword fighting flip trick thing got tired after i saw it the 20th time....its like ok i get it you're good with swords....

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[JustJon]

for a comic book movie this is probably one of the best i've seen so far....
better than say... Road to Perdition or American Splendor?

I think I may try to see this movie on my day off Friday.

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[angrymissy]

Hellboy was excellent due to its groundbreaking use of gratitious scenes involving kittycats.

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[FMJeff]

better than say... Road to Perdition or American Splendor?

I think I may try to see this movie on my day off Friday.


No those are good as well...that's why i said one of the best :)



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It made my heart sing.

[Little Tony DeFranco]

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Even if you don't know "Hellboy", you will love him now after seeing this movie! Guillermo del Toro (Mimic, Blade 2) wrote and directed the adaptation of Mike Mignola's comic book on Dark Horse comix and he is a genius at creating a live action illustration. This flick is so good on so many levels, F/X and creature make-up (legend Rick Baker) are seamless with CGI work. The choice of actors like Selma Blair and John Hurt for larger roles is inspired and starring Ron Pearlman (he is a movie star when in heavy makeup but small roles without) as the big bad red demon, Hellboy is Pearlman's pinnacle role. He has made a fleshed out anti-hero out of a comic book character, part cigar chomping wise-ass cop, part love sick teenager (his stepdad has grounded him for sneaking out without permission) with a need for junk food (mmmm..nachos) and follows his girlfriend out on a date and gets jealous.

Del Toro opens the movie with an origin story set in 1943 Nazi Germany where a team of SS officers lead by the Russian Mad Monk Rasputin (he is a good evil guy but he isn't a "hands on" bad guy, using henchman to do the deeds) and a Hell portal to destroy the planet, and the birth of a small demon called Hellboy (he is tamed with Baby Ruth bars). Grown to become an FBI cop in the same branch as the X-Files guys, he leads a team of agents including Abe Sapien (a fish-man investigator voiced by David Hyde Pierce) and Liz (Selma Blair is sweet), Hellboy's love interest with pyrotechnic powers (HB can not be hurt by fire). Hurt plays HB's loving stepfather and Jeffrey Tambor provides great relief as the FBI honcho who hates HB but learns to like him.

"Hellboy" is one of the greatest comic book fantasy films ever even though the film is trimmed and some scenes missing, not explaining plot points (wait for a DVD "R" extended version to be better suited) and the final third act is plodding. The monsters are scary...the lines are funny...and the acting is top notch! The story is full of fun stuff for ole Browntown like references to "ILLSA, She Wolf Of The SS" and Marvel Comics (Del Toro uses artist Jack Kirby as an inspiration to make this movie). My favorite movie this year so far. Enjoy

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[DESERTEAGLE.50]

Im fucking sold, man.
Will see it tonite!

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[DESERTEAGLE.50]

man, I really enjoyed it...
best cgi Ive seen
It was a wild, fun, raucous romp and Id recommend it

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[Evilpete]

I saw Hell boy yesterday, and the best I can say is that it was a good solid film. It wasn't great, but worth the $$$ to see it

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[JustJon]

Really enjoed it yesterday afternoon.

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[jocefus]

I saw Hell boy yesterday, and the best I can say is that it was a good solid film. It wasn't great, but worth the $$$ to see it


i second that... they did a good job with the cgi..

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[Se7en]

Solid move. Exceptional fun, and I definitely hope that it makes enough money at the box office (and from DVD sales) to warrant a sequel, because I'd love to see one.

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[furie]

i think darkhorse will try to market other titles before they do another sequel, like marvel's doing.


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[JustJon]

nope. there's already talk of a sequel and an animated series on scifi.

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[Hoojibs]

Don't buy the first version of this DVD. Wait for the 2nd.
From IMDB:


Hellboy director Guillermo del Toro is planning two separate DVD versions of his movie, a double-disc edition to be released in August, and a "fan" edition containing a longer cut (by 20 minutes) to be released in December. "The first edition is going to be a double disc hopefully, and the second edition is going to be a long cut of the movie, 20 minutes added, and you add a third disc to it," del Toro told Video Store magazine. "I think you have the chance of the more casual fan just buying the first one, and the guy who really is hardcore going for the second one." Among other things, the longer cut will develop the relationship between Agent Myers (Rupert Evans) and Liz Sherman (Selma Blair) -- which ignites the jealousy of Hellboy (Ron Perlman). The subplot, del Toro said, "couldn't be in the movie because the theatrical cut has to be a cut that moves to a pace that any casual fan or nonfan can enjoy, [while] the DVD is [for] hardcore [fans]."


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[Yerdaddy]

I guess I'm in the minority here. I thought it was incredibly average. It looked good, especially Hellboy and the Aquaman/Niles Crane guy. Good sets too. I also thought there were some good concepts, (from H.P. Lovecraft, I understand), but they were wasted on a flat screenplay and formulaic plot devices, (at least 2 major MIB rip-offs: subway monster fights and the killing of the last monster).

In the end I felt like it had alot of wasted potential, and I had the sense that it was studio interference that caused it. The reason I saw it in the first place was because it was the same guy who made "The Devil's Backbone," which was an outstanding Spanish/Mexican horror movie that was so much more than just a horror movie. So I was surprised to see this one be so unoriginal.

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[TheMojoPin]

I'm with Yerdaddy. I just saw it last night, and everything seemed like such wasted potential. It wasn't bad at all...but the potential for it to be GREAT was right their all along, and that the filmmakers missed out on it made it so much frustrating. Pearlman was great, the film LOOKED fantastic...but the monsters were a big letdown. Not many scares, and the big final fight scene was so anti-climatic.

I was, however, a sucker for the ninja/zombie/Nazi. That guy was just cool. Well, in the first scene. The rest of the movie he looked like a Power Ranger.

And everyone knows the Nazis didn't conquer Scotland, so they're obviously there on a secret mission...but they drape their Nazi flags all over the castle they're hiding in?!? "Uh, no, this is ye olde Castle MacNazi...move it along!!!"

I really liked how robots and "puppets" were used for a lot of the close-up effects shots. Makes a HUGE difference.

Lots of potential for any sequels down the line. Here's hopin'.

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[Def Dave in SC]

Agreed. I saw it opening weekend and i was underwhelmed.. VEry cool, but incredibly anticlimactic. All this buildup for like a 2 or 3 minute fight.

He got eaten, blew the thing up, movie over. Bleehhh. Could have been much better, and don't think a jealousy subplot is the answer. They make a sequel, I will definately see it, but i was really expecting much more.

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[Furtherman]

Hellboy 2: The Golden Army writer/director Guillermo del Toro revealed the full cast for the sequel, which Universal Pictures will release in theaters on August 1, 2008, at Del Toro Films:

John Hurt is back for a cameo.
Myers is not back (see Rupie in KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN in the London stage!!).
Universal has NOT authorized a brief Kroenen cameo/ epilogue- yet.
Johann will be played by John Alexander (body) and Thomas Kretschmann (voice).
Dougie [Doug Jones] will play 4 characters.
Brian Steele will play 4 characters.
Anna Walton is the actress playing Princess Nuala.
Luke Goss plays Prince Nuada. Silverlance.
Roy Dotrice plays King Balor

They join Ron Perlman and Selma Blair in the sequel which starts filming this Friday, June 8 in Budapest.

[MadMatt]

Cool!

Has anybody caught the animated Hellboy movies? They aren't too bad. "The Sword of Storms" is a little weak, but not too bad. "Blood & Iron" was better.

[EliSnow]

Cool!

Has anybody caught the animated Hellboy movies? They aren't too bad. "The Sword of Storms" is a little weak, but not too bad. "Blood & Iron" was better.

I saw Sword of Storms. I thought it was good. Ordered Blood & Iron on DVD, but haven't seen it yet.

[MadMatt]

I saw Sword of Storms. I thought it was good. Ordered Blood & Iron on DVD, but haven't seen it yet.

It focuses a lot more on the Professor, and is obiviously a prequel to the first Movie. It is also a tie-in to an old case that the professor worked on and this is kind of a "redemption story." Well, redemption isn't quite the word; it's kind of like Star Trek 2 being a follow up to the episode Space Seed.

[AKA]

I miss Craig Coleman and Se7en.

(((sigh)))

And Northern Virginia-living Mojo The Mod

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Old threads rule.

[jetdog]

Hellboy was entertaining but not great. this Guillermo del Toro guy though, is fuckin fantastic. the movies I enjoy by him are not at all like Blade 2 or Hellboy. Pan's Labrinth is brilliant, as is the Devil's backbone. Cronos, an early film of his, is really great also. I became interested in him while I was driving across the country and heard an interview on NPR. He's a really interesting guy. Apparently his grandmother was a fanatical Catholic and excorcised him three seperate times. He grew up seeing some gruesome things in Mexico, including a pile of dead fetusses (feti?) in a morgue that he worked at. He had a great line when asked if he accepted his grandmother's religion, "I accepted Jesus into my heart, and he was Godzilla." He really got me back into the monster-movie genre, his take on vampirism (Cronos) and ghosts (the Devil's backbone) is really original, and a refreshing change of pace from the Ringu/creepy walking zombie thing-like string of films that seemed to just keep coming.

[thejives]

Mignola's style is just chillingly cool.

The movies need to reflect that more.

The comics are probably the best things ever. Highly recommend them. Especially if you like the premise but you're disappointed by the films.

[Furtherman]

Hellboy 2 webiste is up! (http://www.hellboymovie.com/)

[TheMojoPin]

Nobody can answer my question about ye olde Castle McNazi?

[realmenhatelife]

Mojo, thats simple. So if you have a bunch of guys bustling around an abandoned castle in Scotland its fucking suspicious, you throw up some nazi flags and dudes will just think Skrewdriver is playing.

Or the easy answer is without the written exposition you have to make things visually obvious.

Or the nerdy answer is they needed to surround Hellboy with nazi regalia when they summoned him to empower him to their cause and indoctrinate him as early as possible. The nazi's were all into ritual and occultism and thats just part of the regalia.

Luckily he ate the pamcakes

[TheMojoPin]

Baby.

Ruth?

[Furtherman]

There is some really cool conceptual art and descriptions up on the Hellboy website. (http://www.hellboymovie.com/)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Furtherman/hellboy2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Furtherman/hellboy2-2.jpg

[MadMatt]

This is a very tangential point, but it has been bugging me since the first movie released: Can anybody explain HOW they were able to destroy Sammael in the first movie? I know that all of the Sammael demons were fried by Liz when she went "nova," but how is that possible?

Sammael is supposed to be a demon that can resurrect itself and for every one that falls 2 will take it's place. If that is the case, when Liz lights all of them on fire twice as many should be resurrected.

I haven't been able to find much/any documentation online. Apparently the entity can be trapped somehow before it resurrects, but how that happens isn't overtly stated either; it is assumed because Rasputin recovers the ashes/crystallized remains of Sammael from the middle of the statue and allows Sammael to resurrect. Obviously the original demon was stopped at some point and magically trapped before it could reform. However, nothing is said about fire or a weakness to fire, nor did they mention how the demon was trapped in the first place.

Can anybody help?

[EliSnow]

This is a very tangential point, but it has been bugging me since the first movie released: Can anybody explain HOW they were able to destroy Sammael in the first movie? I know that all of the Sammael demons were fried by Liz when she went "nova," but how is that possible?

Sammael is supposed to be a demon that can resurrect itself and for every one that falls 2 will take it's place. If that is the case, when Liz lights all of them on fire twice as many should be resurrected.

I haven't been able to find much/any documentation online. Apparently the entity can be trapped somehow before it resurrects, but how that happens isn't overtly stated either; it is assumed because Rasputin recovers the ashes/crystallized remains of Sammael from the middle of the statue and allows Sammael to resurrect. Obviously the original demon was stopped at some point and magically trapped before it could reform. However, nothing is said about fire or a weakness to fire, nor did they mention how the demon was trapped in the first place.

Can anybody help?

I got the sense that she burned them all completely such that there was nothing left to resurrect. The demon resurrects from its remains, but if there are no remains left, it can't resurrect.

[TheMojoPin]

This is a very tangential point, but it has been bugging me since the first movie released: Can anybody explain HOW they were able to destroy Sammael in the first movie? I know that all of the Sammael demons were fried by Liz when she went "nova," but how is that possible?

Sammael is supposed to be a demon that can resurrect itself and for every one that falls 2 will take it's place. If that is the case, when Liz lights all of them on fire twice as many should be resurrected.

I haven't been able to find much/any documentation online. Apparently the entity can be trapped somehow before it resurrects, but how that happens isn't overtly stated either; it is assumed because Rasputin recovers the ashes/crystallized remains of Sammael from the middle of the statue and allows Sammael to resurrect. Obviously the original demon was stopped at some point and magically trapped before it could reform. However, nothing is said about fire or a weakness to fire, nor did they mention how the demon was trapped in the first place.

Can anybody help?

Sorry, I got nothing. As much as I loved most of this movie...basically everything except the last 10 minutes or so...the ending really craps the bed and is insanely anticlimactic, so it doesn't surprise me that something like this just sort of happens without any real reasoning behind it. Once the wind-up ninja nazi bites it, the movie is essentially done. Too bad, too.

[MadMatt]

I got the sense that she burned them all completely such that there was nothing left to resurrect. The demon resurrects from its remains, but if there are no remains left, it can't resurrect.

I tried to use that reasoning, But if that were the case wouldn't Myers have been killed too? He was behind a rock and covered by water, but if that was all he needed to survive it couldn't have been hot enough to totally obliterate all of Sammael. Hell, there were a lot of eggs underwater - that conceivably could have been enough to protect them from being fried (as evidenced by Myers' survival).

I know; it's a suspension of disbelief issue and I should just accept it. However it is pretty sloppy writing and doesn't fit with the known "abilities" of the creature.

[MadMatt]

Sorry, I got nothing. As much as I loved most of this movie...basically everything except the last 10 minutes or so...the ending really craps the bed and is insanely anticlimactic, so it doesn't surprise me that something like this just sort of happens without any real reasoning behind it. Once the wind-up ninja nazi bites it, the movie is essentially done. Too bad, too.

Yeah, I am with you on that. It's almost like Del Torro was pushed for time and over budget, so he just "phoned in" the end of the movie. It ended hurriedly and sloppily, unlike the rest of the movie that seemed to be paced well with a story that followed logically.

I hope the new movie doesn't have the same problems.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, I am with you on that. It's almost like Del Torro was pushed for time and over budget, so he just "phoned in" the end of the movie. It ended hurriedly and sloppily, unlike the rest of the movie that seemed to be paced well with a story that followed logically.

I hope the new movie doesn't have the same problems.

It's especially disapointing when you compare the fading letdown of the ending to the amazing opening sequence.

Big world-shattering monster comes over to our side, and it's killed by a few grenades in, like, 2 seconds? Weak.

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New movie, new gun.

[underdog]

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[MadMatt]

OK, who the hell are the white-skinned freaks? They have a very 'Morlock' feel to them, and they are apparently the primary antagonists in the new movie.

[cougarjake13]

looks bad ass

cant wait

[hedges]

I have bartended on ole Hellboy (Ron Perlman) several times in the past few years. I never knew who he was, but he looked a little familiar. Probably cause every movie or TV show I've seen him in he was completely done up in makeup or prosthestics. Like Name of the Rose or Beauty and the Beast. He is a complete gentleman and an underrated actor.

[realmenhatelife]

The trailer looks incredible.
I think this story is really going to gel del Toro and Mignola, who both have interests in the dark side of fairy tales and the more sinister traditions in folklore. I also get a sense that this movie will be less strictly about hellboy and the human POV character and be more free form like the comics, bringing in bprd elements. I'm super psyched yohan is in the trailer.
cloverfield, batman and hellboy means im geeking the fuck out this year.

[Furtherman]

New trailer is up. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809826056/video/7254444)

Looks big, loud and a lot of fun.

[cougarjake13]

New trailer is up. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809826056/video/7254444)

Looks big, loud and a lot of fun.

sweet

[Ogre]

That trailer is uckin fawesome. I loved Hellboy and I am not much on comic book movies. They always seem to dissapoint. I thought Hellboy was alot better than what they did with Spiderman, The Hulk or that jive ass Fantastic Four. I really thought it was the best since Batman with Keaton and Nicholson. I know that Pearlman was reading a script, but I dug his wise ass character interpretation. Looking forward to more of the same.

[Furtherman]

http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/27317.jpg

http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/27316.jpg

Exclusive Hellboy 2 Art (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22595)

[Furtherman]

'Hellboy' Taps Into Ancient Irish Folklore (http://www.livescience.com/history/080702-ancient-gods.html)

http://i.livescience.com/images/080702-hellboyII-02.jpg

Cool article on the myths behind Hellboy II.

[realmenhatelife]

I may be more excited for Hellboy than Batman.

I also posted this in the other forum, but Hellboy: The Crooked Man #1 came out yesterday and it's fantastic. I think this arc should be the best thing Mignola's written in awhile.

[Badinia]

I'm so mad that Hellboy is not opening 4th of July weekend! Man, screw Will Smith...

[TheMojoPin]

They just started re-releasing all of the Hellboy series in gorgeous oversized hardcovers...but they used the worst kind of glossy paper for the pages. It's nice and thick, but with most of the negative space around the panels in black, the things pick up hideous fingerprints left and right.

[realmenhatelife]

They just started re-releasing all of the Hellboy series in gorgeous oversized hardcovers...but they used the worst kind of glossy paper for the pages. It's nice and thick, but with most of the negative space around the panels in black, the things pick up hideous fingerprints left and right.


I like Mignola's art a lot but probably not enough to rebuy everything at a hardcover premium. I actually like that he isn't drawing The Crooked Man, it gives it a very fresh look.

[Furtherman]

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[Aqualad]

I really dug the first one, but I'm surprised it made enough money to warrant a sequel and this kind of promotional push.

[realmenhatelife]

I really dug the first one, but I'm surprised it made enough money to warrant a sequel and this kind of promotional push.

It probably has alot to do with Guillermo del Toro who is hot right now, and will open up the foriegn market alot. Plus comic book properties are easy to sell right now.

[Furtherman]

It made most of its money in DVD sales.

[angrymissy]

Did no one else see this yet? Holy shit, it ruled. It was one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. Everything about it was top notch. I did not lose my attention once, and I usually do during most movies. Seriously, go see it. :thumbup:

I am now also considering getting the super short Selma Blair haircut from the movie as well.

[cougarjake13]

I am now also considering getting the super short Selma Blair haircut from the movie as well.


i love that hairstyle on a chick

i say go for it

[KingGeno]

Rotten Tomatoes has a pretty good rating, an some great reviews. Better ratings than some other movies recently. Few people have compared it to Star Wars. I liked the first one too.

I haven't seen Hellboy 2, but I watched the first 5-10 minutes of the intro. Oh boy, did that get me really excited to see it.

This is gonna be my second movie to see after Dark Knight this week. I like to spend a whole saturday afternoon (matinee) seeing two movies sometimes.

[boonanas]

This really was a great movie. It was so creative and literally every frame of this movie had some entertainment value in it. I've seen it twice so far this weekend, I have no quarrels with seeing it again. Lots of interesting characters and great fight scenes. Just an all around entertaining summer film. So much better than that shitty Hancock.

[TjM]

Saw it Friday.Loved it:clap:

[KingGeno]

Here is the animated prologue for Hellboy II in high-def. It is the very start of the movie, so itgives you incite into what the film is about:

Hi-Res (http://movies.apple.com/movies/universal/hellboy_2/hellboy_2-prologue_h640w.mov) http://www.drfoster.f2s.com/images/qtlogo.jpg (64.3Mb)

[fezident]

Walked out within 20 mins.

Another CGI crapfest. A major step back for DelToro.


Next.

[drusilla]

Did no one else see this yet? Holy shit, it ruled. It was one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. Everything about it was top notch. I did not lose my attention once, and I usually do during most movies. Seriously, go see it. :thumbup:

I am now also considering getting the super short Selma Blair haircut from the movie as well.

we saw it tonight. i liked it but i was with a bunch of loser neurosurgeons who thought it was cheesey. i dont think they know fun, they just know brains. i thought the movie was a lot of fun i even enjoyed the goofy moments that may be considered terrible cheese. i'm re-watching the first one right now. they are pretty different, but i think i like the second one better. there was a lot of cgi of course in it, but i think it was all done pretty well. i think del torro has a very vivid imagination & excellent way of seeing things through. he's enchanting i guess you could say.


& her hair looked awesome. i saw a picture of her on wwtdd the other day & shes' still kinda wearing it short. i think she's always looked best with short hair.

[nassue]

my girl and I saw it on saturday and it was a lot of goddamn fun.

if your looking for something to change the way you think about film go someplace else

hellboy might be over the top comicbook movie but at least people making it don't take themselves to seriously

it's not meant to allow a window to check out the human condition .... it's for big monsters and silly one liners

[pittphantoms]

I thought the story fell apart quick in this movie... if you didnt see that ending coming from nine miles away you were asleep.

For some stupid reason I had over-hyped how good this was going to be in my head - so I was disapointed. I assume if I was a kid who hadn't seen this story over and over it would have been pretty good.

[TheMojoPin]

I thought the story fell apart quick in this movie... if you didnt see that ending coming from nine miles away you were asleep.

Pretty much. I had a good time watching it, but like the first one, once it pushes towards what's supposed to be the main plot as opoosed to just showing off Hellboy and co.'s world, it really stumbles.

[angrymissy]

we saw it tonight. i liked it but i was with a bunch of loser neurosurgeons who thought it was cheesey. i dont think they know fun, they just know brains. i thought the movie was a lot of fun i even enjoyed the goofy moments that may be considered terrible cheese. i'm re-watching the first one right now. they are pretty different, but i think i like the second one better. there was a lot of cgi of course in it, but i think it was all done pretty well. i think del torro has a very vivid imagination & excellent way of seeing things through. he's enchanting i guess you could say.

& her hair looked awesome. i saw a picture of her on wwtdd the other day & shes' still kinda wearing it short. i think she's always looked best with short hair.

I wouldn't get the full on cut from the movie, that one is shorter on one side, but the way she has it now is similar with it being the same length on both sides, which is what I'm considering.

And YES - I loved this movie as an overthetop fun summer movie. I wasn't expecting some deep movie, and it delivered as a fun summer eyecandy movie. And yes, of course you could figure out the ending from the beginning.

[Furtherman]

I thought it was great too. Visually stunning and very funny. One obvious mistake - Hellboy's headquarters mislabeled as Trenton instead of Newark. You can't see NYC from Trenton. And I guess David Hyde Pierce wasn't available to lend his voice to Abe? Other than that, overall a great film. I can't smile without you.

[drusilla]

I wouldn't get the full on cut from the movie, that one is shorter on one side, but the way she has it now is similar with it being the same length on both sides, which is what I'm considering.



i say go for it. i like her hair. i think you would be able to pull it off.

[EliSnow]

I tried to use that reasoning, But if that were the case wouldn't Myers have been killed too? He was behind a rock and covered by water, but if that was all he needed to survive it couldn't have been hot enough to totally obliterate all of Sammael. Hell, there were a lot of eggs underwater - that conceivably could have been enough to protect them from being fried (as evidenced by Myers' survival).

I know; it's a suspension of disbelief issue and I should just accept it. However it is pretty sloppy writing and doesn't fit with the known "abilities" of the creature.

Just re-saw this, and I think I can clarify on this.

First, when Sammael dies, two sparks are created. But the new Sammael do not resurrect from the originals remains, but rather are sparks that lead to eggs hatching. They are sort of spiritucal sperm that leads to fertilizing the eggs. With all of the eggs burning, any sparks generated had nowhere to go.

Second, why wasn't Myers killed? I would explain it that she was somewhat in control of her powers and directed most of the blast foward to the eggs. Yes, there was splash back towards Myers, but since he was behind the rock, he was okay. If she had directed the flames toward him, being behind the rock would not have mattered.