Cheap Trick is the most overrated band ever.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm following suit with blakjeesis' Beastie Boys' thread in regards to "threads that seem woefully out of place and time."

Anyone here have VH1 Classic? What a great channel. Nothing but videos and performance clips from a window that's roughly 1963-1989. Unfortunately, amongst all this awesomeness, lies about half a dozen Cheap Trick videos every goddamn day.

Now, I love "I Want You To Want Me." It may be the catchiest, greatest pop song ever put to wax. But everything, literally, EVERYTHING else they've done? Sheer sonic awfulness. These guys didn't find a shitty musical genre in the 70's and 80's that wasn't already awful that they didn't think they could take to even more horrible depths. Why is this band somewhat legendary? They're a fucking joke.

There's plenty of old people on this board who maybe can clear this up. Someone explain to me, if possible, why the public hasn't laughed Cheap Trick off of the planet?

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Personally, I like their song Surrender.

But that is about it.

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As I recall, other than the occasional fluke 80s hit, everybody pretty much stopped caring about Cheap Trick around 1978.

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one word:aerosmith

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[mikeyboy]

Oh, yeah -- as far as the "legendary" part, I never really got it. I always took it to come from the alt-rockers from the early 90s (like Billy Corgan) giving major support to the cheese-rock that influenced them during their formative years.

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I agree Mojo, VH1 Classic is fucking awesome. I watched it dumbfounded the other night when they played one of my faves from the 80's..."Six Months in a Leaky Boat" by Split Enz. I love watching that channel.

Regarding Cheap Trick? My only explanation is that they are a Midwest band, and Midwesterners are passionate to the point of obsession (much like Boston people) with bands, be they good or bad, that come from their neck of the woods.


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Aerosmith's suckiness deserves its own thread. Let's stay on target here.

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I disagree. There are bands that are much more overrated than Cheap Trick, but you're right, other than <i>I Want You to Want Me</i>, they suck rocks.

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Cheap Trick is the most overrated band ever


never heard of Styxx, huh?


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There's plenty of old people on this board who maybe can clear this up


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Who ever "rated" Styxx?

And way to out yourself, Reesh.

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[Hottub]

"You honestly can't say, you've forgotten the magnetism of Robin Zander, or the charisma of Rick Neilson!

How about the tunes...

I want you to want me..

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but they want us to want them

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"You honestly can't say, you've forgotten the magnetism of Robin Zander, or the charisma of Rick Neilson!

How about the tunes...

I want you to want me..

The Dream Police Ba Na Na Na Na Na Na..."

Your Mommy's alright, Your Daddy's alright...

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Pah. Mojo made his point. Time to derail...



First of all Rat, you never let on how much you like a girl. "Oh, Debbie. Hi." Two, you always call the shots. "Kiss me. You won't regret it." Now three, act like wherever you are, that's the place to be. "Isn't this great?" Four, when ordering food, you find out what she wants, then order for the both of you. It's a classy move. "Now, the lady will have the linguini and white clam sauce, and a Coke with no ice." And five, now this is the most important, Rat. When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV.


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I heard their new song its called my obsession, one word... AWFUL!!!!!

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they toured with Cake so they are OK in my book

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I can see it all now, this is gonna be just like last summer. You fell in love with that girl at the Fotomat, you bought forty dollars worth of fuckin' film, and you never even talked to her. You don't even own a camera.

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never bought anything of theirs but i did buy some cheap tricks off a girl walking down 27th st ...

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

I was searching for another post when I tripped across this one.

I would HARDLY call them "overrated." They have a strong cult following.

:takes off glove:

:slaps Mojo across the face:

You, sir, are treading on old timer's ground. You're musical snobbery has no place here.

I'm guessing you were a zygote when Budokan came out.

Stop trashing bands you know nothing about.

Us old timers like them because of integrity. They were who they were and never strayed from that. They still have the same line-up (Rick Nielsen is considered a phenomenal guitar player). In the late 70s there was god-awful AOR or disco. Cheap Trick was low-profile and "pop" without being bubble gum.

Mojo, I know you're going to choke on this, but they're up there with The Replacements.

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This has nothing to do with Cheap Trick but i think AJ must have signed a contract with the Devil to be able to slide a Simpsons refference into practically EVERY thread i've seen in the last 2 months.


Sorry, carry on!

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but i think AJ must have signed a contract with the Devil to be able to slide a Simpsons refference into practically EVERY thread i've seen in the last 2 months.


Nah, he's just gifted.

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i would have to say the most overrated band currently is the strokes. they are a decent band, but their meteoric rise was a complete industry push.

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[TheMojoPin]

I was searching for another post when I tripped across this one.

I would HARDLY call them "overrated." They have a strong cult following.

:takes off glove:

:slaps Mojo across the face:

You, sir, are treading on old timer's ground. You're musical snobbery has no place here.

I'm guessing you were a zygote when Budokan came out.

Stop trashing bands you know nothing about.

Us old timers like them because of integrity. They were who they were and never strayed from that. They still have the same line-up (Rick Nielsen is considered a phenomenal guitar player). In the late 70s there was god-awful AOR or disco. Cheap Trick was low-profile and "pop" without being bubble gum.

Mojo, I know you're going to choke on this, but they're up there with The Replacements.

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This message was edited by Alice S. Fuzzybutt on 3-18-04 @ 11:36 PM

PSHAW!

I know TOO much about this goddamned band, because they rank up there as one of my Dad's favorite bands, so I've probably heard more of them against my will than the average fan.

AWFUL. AWFULAWFULAWFULAWFULAWFUL.

Like I said, "I Want You To Want Me"? Possibly the greatest song ever. Definitely the greatest power pop song ever. But everything else sounds like a band that has no idea what they want to sound like, so they co-opt EVERYTHING that's ever used a guitar, and made them all equally shitty and lame.

The Replacements and them don't even live in the same UNIVERSE, much less the same planet.

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[TheMojoPin]

And while they might be "before my time," the music itself is eternal. The record of their sins is forever on display for all to hear.

And RETCH.

THE FOLLOWING IS MORE EVIL THAN NAZIS FUCKING COMMUNISTS.

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[42nd-delay]

I think the rule with Cheap Trick is that their live albums are great and their studio albums suck.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

GOOD DAY, SIR.


That's good day, madame.

BUT

MS. Fuzzybutt to you!

Your argument, dear sir, has been taken into account.

I still don't think you know what you're talking about.

The father angle intrigues me, though.

Hmmmmmm.

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[TheMojoPin]

My dad has AWFUL taste in music.

Well, kinda...

He likes the standard "classic" bands (Stones, Beatles, Motown, et al)...but his absolute favorites?

Cheap Trick, Deep Purple, Yes, The Police and Jethro Tull.

OK, The Police I can easily get on board with...but the rest? Ye GADS.

Though all of my female friends say he's "hot." And then they look at me like, "what the fuck happened with YOU?" So he's apparently got THAT going for him.

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[SuperClerk]

When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV.


And then play "Physical Graffiti" instead. Nootch.

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[Tall_James]

Though all of my female friends say he's "hot." And then they look at me like, "what the fuck happened with YOU?" So he's apparently got THAT going for him.


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[A.J.]

but i think AJ must have signed a contract with the Devil to be able to slide a Simpsons refference into practically EVERY thread i've seen in the last 2 months.


Nah, he's just gifted.

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It's a sickness I have.

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[A.J.]

When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV.


And then play "Physical Graffiti" instead. Nootch.

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I'm glad someone else noticed that.

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[mikeyboy]

When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV.


And then play "Physical Graffiti" instead. Nootch.

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I'm glad someone else noticed that.



Cameron Crowe brought this up on the commentary for the Fast Times DVD. Apparently people come up to him all the time thinking that they are the first to have picked up on it.

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Cameron Crowe brought this up on the commentary for the Fast Times DVD. Apparently people come up to him all the time thinking that they are the first to have picked up on it.


God bless us Zeppelin freaks -- one and all.

Funny thing is, Crowe covered the band and is a fan so you'd think he wouldn't have allowed such a "mistake" like that to be in the film.

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Cheap Trick, Deep Purple, Yes, The Police and Jethro Tull.
aside from Yes, those are all great bands. I think you're just too stuck in your music snobbery to appeciate the good stuff. not every great band has to have a tortured, pale, whiny, vegan in it (even though the Police did)

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who cares yo, thats what i say. if you like cheap trick, listen to them. if not, keep spinning your Enya albums, whatever floats your dank seeds

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Cheap Trick, Deep Purple, Yes, The Police and Jethro Tull.
aside from Yes, those are all great bands. I think you're just too stuck in your music snobbery to appeciate the good stuff. not every great band has to have a tortured, pale, whiny, vegan in it (even though the Police did)

Bah. Nonsense. I own and love several hundred "classic rock"-era albums (ie-anything before 1980). I just can't stand Cheap Trick. Or any of those other bands above (Except for my beloved The Police, and Deep Purple is decent, though their "greatness" is based on TWO fucking songs). I listen to literally every modern genre under the sun. Some may say snobbery...I simply say taste. I appreciate my ears, and don't wish to sonically rape them with aural ass. How you figure anyone that hates bloated, empty dinosaur rock as only liking "tortured, pale, whiny vegans?" I want some SNAP to my music, some fucking SPINE. Those bands above are pretty fuckin' pussy when you get down to it.

Oh, wait, did I fall onto Earth-16, where playing the flute equals "metal" and not "gay Renaissance fair shit?" No, that's right, I didn't. DEATH TO THE TULL.

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Snoogans, listen to him.

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Deep Purple is decent, though their "greatness" is based on TWO fucking songs).


Which two? "Hush" and "Smoke on the Water"?

Most of their really good stuff never gets played on the radio.

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Yeah, those two.

Like I said, decent band, but come on..."great?" Great bands are hard to come by in any era...the term gets tossed around way too much...

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Great Bands are ones that everyone knows but rarely get any radio play at all.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

I SO want to lock this thread.

Just because.

Where are my old timer buddies? Gvac? Heckler?

Sheesh!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

OK, NOW I get it.

Cheap Trick fans are SO old, they've just forgotten how awful they were.

Poor things!

:eg:

Feh. Goddamn smiley.

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It's still my birthday Mojo. I'm still special for another 1 hour and 17 minutes.



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[mikeyboy]

Cameron Crowe brought this up on the commentary for the Fast Times DVD. Apparently people come up to him all the time thinking that they are the first to have picked up on it.


God bless us Zeppelin freaks -- one and all.

Funny thing is, Crowe covered the band and is a fan so you'd think he wouldn't have allowed such a "mistake" like that to be in the film.



It might have been intentional. If you remember, the character who was trying to follow the "rules" in the movie, Mark Ratner, wasn't exactly the most smooth guy ever.

As I've stated before, due to a lack of funds in college, this was one of the only two movies my roommates and I owned, and I bet I've seen it 50-60 times. Hence I tend to focus too much on it.

Stump me on Fast Times trivia. I dare ya!

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It might have been intentional. If you remember, the character who was trying to follow the "rules" in the movie, Mark Ratner, wasn't exactly the most smooth guy ever.

Good point.

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I believe the reason that he says that and they play something else is that Cameron couldn't get the rights to Zep 4. He was friends with the band after covering them for Rolling Stone.

It's very rare for Plant and Page to allow people to license any of their music. There's only about 3 or 4 movies to have Zep songs in them (covers don't count, nor do concert films). They still wouldn't let Cameron use Stairway in Almost Famous, but the scene is in the deleted scenes on the dvd.

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O.K. i think it's safe to say that Cheap Trick is not in the rock god status of Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple, but they had their moment of success with their debut LP "Live at BudoKan" and some moderate hits in the 1980's and would've faded away by now, but and i repeat BUT!!!! The most overrated band in my opinion is U2 UGH!!!!!! I've had enough of Bono's holier than thou preaching about the state of the world. He barely lifts a finger about things that happen only a few miles away from his home in Dublin since he cares sooooooooo much about the AIDS situation in africa. So, FUCK BONO AND I HOPE HE NAILS HIMSELF TO A CROSS LIKE THE MARTYR HE FUCKING THINKS HE IS!!!!! :mad:

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