Cameras at Traffic Light's and Intersections

[sunndoggy8]

Should this stay legal? Last I heard a judge in San Diego (i think) said that no evidence from these intersection pictures could be used to send out tickets...Is it an invasion of privacy?

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[IkeaBoy]

Not legal, not legal. I do'nt like the idea of them watching us.

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[F Wad]

I think violates the rights of the accused to have the opportunity to cross examine his accuser

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[HordeKing1]

Sunny, can you please clarify? Do you want to know if it is currently legal in San Diego or if it should be. As you know those are two very different issues.

As I recall, the tickets were invalidated b/c of lack of notice to the drivers that their speed was monitored by satillite, not because of any privacy concerns. I'll check into it while awaiting your response.

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[sunndoggy8]

HK, I meant, do you think it's legal to have them at all? They will catch people speeding, but is it an invasion of privacy?

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[adolescentmasturbator]

I think the government has just gotten to the point where they said "Screw covering up this invasion of privacy shit, there isn't anything they could do anyway."

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[HordeKing1]

Our privacy is invaded every day in ways which you would not imagine. Your credit card company has a record of everything you buy and your patterns of shopping. Your cell phone can give police your general location. (There is currently a push to get new cell phones to be equiped with something akin to a GPS, so that your location can be further pinpointed). Insurance companies have records of every doctor you ever visited and the reason for the visit. You boss can keep tabs on every stroke made on your keyboard, read all your e-mail and see what websites you visited. (According to some estimates, as much as 70% of employers routinely check up on their employees in this fashion.)

We have little privacy left.

How much privacy can we legitimately expect and how realistic are these expectations?

I don't think anyone would have a problem with spy sattelites being used to aid in the capture of a criminal. On the other end of the spectrum, I don't feel anyone would be comfortable knowing that every time you buy a playboy, someone is aware of it and adding the information to your file.

I am not comfortable with the use of spy satellites to catch speeders. Perhaps this is a bias of mine, as I don't consider speeding a crime.

Conversely, I can see how monitoring speed could conceivably save lives. But it is clear that this is not the intent of this program. No cars were dispatched to stop the speeding cars and/or to tell them to slow down. The satellites were used for the sole purpose of generating speeding tickets.

Giving up another aspect of privacy so the government can fill it's coffers is not, in my opinon appropriate. If the govt. were to use the technology for worthwhile purposes, such as rescue and assistance, I feel the additional privacy loss is one I'm willing to bear.

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[Gvac]

King,

My initial reaction to your post here was to fire off an angry reply that would have dwarfed anything either you or Pooter have ever written. We're talking 20,000 words or so.

Instead, I have decided to accept the fact that you are the "Yin" to my "Yang", and I will never fully understand you or others that take positions similar to yours.

Peace. I have to go meditate.

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[Dirtybird11]

those things use to make me PARINOID. then i began flipping them off when i go by(cuz i am a rebel)

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[IkeaBoy]

I know HK, I know. If most people really knew how much the people knew about us, they'd be scared beyond belief. The truth is they know but they don't put two and two together. A credit card keeps records of what we buy but if you think about it that means in some databse somewhere a list of every purchase you've ever made Any online name you use, they know who you are.

And the spy camera/face recognition honestly frightens me because a) there is so much that can go wrong, b) anyone at the controls can look at you and learn everything about your life, and c) just thinking about what this means, that camera follow you around all the time is frightening. I even have this theory that reality shows are just a precursor to have us all on surveillance 24/7 no matter who we are or where we are.

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[TomPoo]

I got a ticket from a traffic camera... it is total bullshit. If it proves to deter people from speeding, running red light, etc, it will stay

...if not, they will outlaw it eventually.

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