The Beastie Boys are NOT good rappers.

[blakjeezis]

That doesn't mean I don't like them. I'm not their biggest fan in the world; a lot of their stuff is good, some of it's real good, especially the later work. Musically, they experiment, I like that. The content of their lyrics is interesting, I like that too. But the rhyming itself, their rhythms, their patterns, and their 'flow', if you will, are very, very basic:
bum ba bum ba bum bum bum
bum ba bum ba bum bum bum

I don't know if this is a criticism or just an observation really. The music certainly doen't suffer because of it, in fact I suppose it does lend a certain charm, a signature style, to it.

Edit: And I think sometimes they just make things up to fill in an empty line. For example, "I like my sugar with coffee and cream."

Edit 2: Of course the worst offense of this nature ever is at the end of Wu-Tang's Can it be All So Simple: "Sunsine plays a major part in the daytime. Peace to mankind, GhostFace carry a black nine, niggah." I love the Wu, but that's so bad it's laughable.

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[TheMojoPin]

Where were you and this thread ten years ago, Detective Kojak Mannix Batman? It seems the two of you got lost.

And like you said, they have a basic style, but it is "their" style. If they suddenly dropped something different, they just wouldn't be them. I don't think anyone's expecting the rebirth of Rakim out of these three yutzes.

Besides, I always looked at the lyrics as secondary to the bitchin' sonic collage they layer each album with.

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[blakjeezis]

Well, the board wasn't around 10 years ago. Duh!

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Of course the can't rap, they have musical talent.

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everybody's rapping like it's a commercial
acting like life is a big commercial

worst lyrics ever.

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[keithy_19]

Paul's Boutique is a real good album.



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[Lisa Croft]

"I said ooh my my and thank you ma'am". What place does this have in a song? About as much place as "I got more rhymes than Phyllis Diller", I guess. Both lines make me cringe when I hear them, along with many others. Their lyrics are horrible. I've pretty much gotten over it. To this day I can't even explain why I love them so much. If I heard them for the first time today I'd probably think they suck.

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TextThe Beastie Boys are NOT good rappers.


you're wrong

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of course they cant rap, theyre from new york

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[ADF]

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[whorehay]

the pauls boutique album dissected.
word for word. all samples given.

http://www.moire.com/beastieboys/samples/songs.php

theyre still paying royalties to this day supposedly for that
album. thats funny

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[Se7en]

I'd rather have my scrotum stapled to a chalkboard than listen to an entire Beastie Boys album.

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[phixion]

the beastie boys were better rappers and than Run DMC. yeah i said it.

and if you upset that they keep the rhyme scheme look at nelly or any one of the the fuckin st lunatics. or ludacris if not not having cohesive rhyme scheme consistantly counts. not everyone is nas or big i wish they were but their not.

he he he sorry red for spilling it
you better pick up every seed of it

now thats a great rhyme

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[grlNIN]

the beastie boys were better rappers and than Run DMC. yeah i said it.




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[TheMojoPin]

I'd rather have my scrotum stapled to a chalkboard

Same thing as listening to an Evanescence record.

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[RocOutWithYACockOUT]

The Beastie Boys are the most overrated rap group ever. I don't even consider their albums to be rap. What the fuck are they talking about? Their lyrics never make sense.

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[Mike Teacher]

the pauls boutique album dissected.


Great website; and it shows what a genius producer can do. My opinion, but Paul's Boutique is just the most amazing album. It's a cohesive whole, a wall of samples that are blatant and used to perfection. Total rip-off of samples or tribute or whatever, I think this album fucking smokes.

And it's so easy to Monday Morning QB these things, but having been old enough to remember, this then rap/hip-hop Hater saw what happened with the release of Licensed to Ill. For better or worse, it changed everything; and spawned a bazillion wannabes. Get past the hits on the album.

And if you don't think 95% of major label/producer albums released today by bands of *any* genre are filled, i mean Filled with Samples of old kicks, snares, synth and organ tones, well...

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[Freakshow]

That's funny. They weren't a very good hardcore band either.

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[Se7en]

I'd rather have my scrotum stapled to a chalkboard

Same thing as listening to an Evanescence record.


Boy, you're never going to let me live that one down, are you.

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[gypsy]

They share song writing contributions on alot of their stuff. So who knows how much they actually write. Plus, their lyrics are real juvenile.

ie. "I went into the locker room during classes. I went into your locker and I smashed your glasses"

"I'll steal your money like I stole your bike"


But I guess they rap about their experiences, and it would sound funny for 3 Jewish white boys to rap about living in the hood.

[Freakshow]

What do you expect, they are the Beastie Boys. If they were the Beastie Men, then they could rap about adult things, like cubicles and car loans or something.

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[JustJon]

of course they cant rap, theyre from new york

and yet rap was born on the streets of new york. go figure.

and would someone shut the beasties the hell up about supposed social issues. you rapped about mysogeny and now we're supposed to take you seriously about freeing tibet?

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[East Side Dave]

I wish the Beastie Boys and the Beach Boys united and we could call them the Beachstie Boys and we could dress up Brian Wilson in skater gear and do things to Brian Wilson's head and I guess really I just wanted them to unite so that I could do experiments on Brian Wilson.

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Boy, you're never going to let me live that one down, are you.

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Umm...what? Who cares....

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[whorehay]

east side dave just made my day.
great post, playa

[blakjeezis]

And to think I have sex with you.


Is that what you call it?!?! Ooooooooookay.



and would someone shut the beasties the hell up about supposed social issues


C'mon Jon, you can't deny them their birthright. They're turning into the whiny, middle-age, liberal Jews they were born to be.

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[sleepyeyed_Jynx]

the beastie boys were better rappers and than Run DMC. yeah i said it.

and if you upset that they keep the rhyme scheme look at nelly or any one of the the fuckin st lunatics. or ludacris if not not having cohesive rhyme scheme consistantly counts.

Um, what more can I say than 'don't listen to the radio'. Ludacris' orginality is layed across his albums. His lyrics are by no means simple unless they're on a dumb club song. Nelly and the St. Lunatics don't count in my book as they're more talentless jips that stay alive in mainstream Rap as they're so commercial and marketed that every white teen (sorry, i had to be truthful) buys their albums. That's the same for most rappers frequently played on your radio dial. Now, being the oversensative emcee that I am, I suggest to look to guys like Mos Def, Talib, Nas, and actually LISTEN to Eminem's album if you want good stuff from people you're familar with. If you want agressive heavy hittin' stuff from guys with wordplay that'll leave you speechless, and you're not afraid to try and listen to someone you don't know of, try Diabolic, Copywrite, Q Unique, Juice, Pumpkin Head, Session, and Vast Aire.

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[Snoogans]

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if you are honestly going to look for good lyricists you can't only look at main stream shit. by far, i would say the #1 hip hop artist out there is doseone. who's doseone, you might ask. exactly.

his shit is so out there, major labels on't even touch him. furthermore, he puts oput a lot of stuff that is so experimental that even "heads" question it. but, when it all comes down to it, you will never find another lyricist who can freestyle/ battle like him.

while most people will spit writtens, he goes comepletely of the top, always.

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[Arienette]

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GO NINJA, GO NINJA, GOOO

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[phixion]

Um, what more can I say than 'don't listen to the radio'. Ludacris' orginality is layed across his albums. His lyrics are by no means simple unless they're on a dumb club song. Nelly and the St. Lunatics don't count in my book as they're more talentless jips that stay alive in mainstream Rap as they're so commercial and marketed that every white teen (sorry, i had to be truthful) buys their albums. That's the same for most rappers frequently played on your radio dial. Now, being the oversensative emcee that I am, I suggest to look to guys like Mos Def, Talib, Nas, and actually LISTEN to Eminem's album if you want good stuff from people you're familar with.


if it wasnt for my job i would never turn on a radio. and yes i know radio sucks and they only play crap i know. and if you want really good stuff get rakim the god, slick rick the monster, and mega's got some amazing rhymes, commons older stuff is really good, mad skillz is the greatest rapper no one has heard of, and royce is fucking amazing. his new album is beautiful, do yourself a favor and pick it up. and lets not forget necro one of the most evil minds ever produced but he can rhyme like nobodys business. then theres always krs and and the second best rapper ever big l.

let have it l. give it to em l.

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[Snoogans]

put it in terms of this.
would you rather listen to the beastie boys, or shit like Hello There?
exactly, comparitively, they arent bad

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if that was too my last thing, its the Shaq rap song
and tone loc wasnt bad in ace ventura


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