Arod to Yankees???

[Teenweek]

Holy S#@T!!!

Arod for Soriano and money (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sparod143670708feb14,0,7003241.story?coll=ny-yankees-headlines)

[Crippler]

Even if this move still didn't make them the best team in the league, on paper, this might be the one that makes the rest of the league throw up their collective hands in disgust & say "we quit, you don't play fair!"

But I still can't see it happening...I think Eric Duncan will be the Yankee 3rd baseman by July.

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[billyio]

The Evil Empire is cranking up their yanking.

See Ya!

[Teenweek]

I heard on espnradio this morning a further update. Instead of giving up contreras, the yankees would pay arods entire contract.

[fluffernutter]

the yankees would pay arods entire contract.


Of course they would. Is money really an object to Steinbrenner? I swear he must piss away more cash than urine in a year.


"we quit, you don't play fair!"


Ok, I'll say it too. You don't play fair. Yadda uadda small markets have a hard time competing, blah blah blah. It's all been said before. But now that I think about it, you still have to play 162 gamnes a season and nothing is guaranteeing you will be a winner and make the play offs. You can buy all the players and all the talent in the leauge but chemistry, teamwork and the lack of big heads in the clubhouse and a level mindset is priceless.

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Great! The Yanks purchase another World Series.

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I say we get A-Rod and then get Bonds and then we should thaw Ted Williams and dig up Babe Ruth and buy the Rockettes Yankees Rule Hahahahaha!!

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[schmega]

i dunno...

i DO know i wont be paying $40 for front-row UPPER DECK seats(granted its a good view) where you'll get your ticket checked by some dipshit usher who doesnt even know what section he thinks you dont belong in. fuckin assholes.

tell me when october starts. and if kevin brown's not playing then, i hope he dies.

[HBox]

Sometimes I think the Yankees do stuff just because they can.

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[Snoogans]

its the last thing that would suprise me, and im sure they are tryin.
i dont see it getting done though it is slightly possible.
call me crazy, i think its gonna hurt. you'll have alotta talent, but try meshing it with a lame duck manager and try get all those guys enough AB;s that they dont bitch

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[Snoogans]

good news. espn just reported word of the rumors, and we all saw what happened last time arod was gonna be traded. no worries folks, arod looks to lead the rangers in 04

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[TheGameHHH]

I want this trade to happen more than anything. To get A-rod after the Sox failed to would make my life near complete. I really want this to go through, I hope it's more than just a rumor.

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[Snoogans]

its a little diff, sori straight up for with a shitty guy would be a hell of alot cheaper than what texas wanted boston to do, completely diff deal you cant compare

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Bad move if this happens. The NY Rangers have so many superstars on their team but havent made the playoffs since '97

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[KERMIT]

Baseball is much more different then hockey. U need a system in hockey. u can't just throw guys out in the ice.

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[Snoogans]

you need AB's for all your guys to keep them happy in baseball. how is lame duck gonna keep them all from being problems

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[newport king]

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[WindowSill]

If the Yanks get ARod, is there any possible way for them to not win the World Series? Other than the Yankees team plane going down while flying from NY to Tampa Bay of course...

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[Snoogans]

If the Yanks get ARod, is there any possible way for them to not win the World Series?

if the rangers get bure, there is no possible way they wont///oh yea.
but if the rangers get lindros, then no way can we not, oh yea.
the mets are getting mo vaughn, its gonna put them over the, oh yea

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[WindowSill]

Yeah except both the Rangers and Mets sucked before and after they acquired those players. The Yankees are a team that was in the World Series 2 out of the last 3 years. Not to mention that A-Rod is undountably(sp?) the best player in baseball.
If Arod were to come to the Yankees and hit like 12 HRs and drive in 23 in just 46 games, you would still have Jeter, Giambi, Sheffield, Matsui.etc...

And anyway how can u compare Alex Rodriguez to Mo Vaughn...I mean, really.



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[Snoogans]

too much talent isnt always good. go play some sports. people bitch when they dont start every game, your gonna have 10 guys bitching by may and YOU HAVE A LAME DUCK manager
itll take a miricle for the team to gel and go very far in the playoffs

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[HBox]

YOU HAVE A LAME DUCK manager

Joe Torre is not a lame duck manager.

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[Snoogans]

he is when he refused his extention. he is a great manager, but how will they respond when steinbrenner has his finger on the trigger ready to fire him at the first 4 game slide

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[HBox]

he is when he refused his extention. he is a great manager, but how will they respond when steinbrenner has his finger on the trigger ready to fire him at the first 4 game slide

If he wasn't offered an extension in the first place, then he'd be a lame duck manager. And Steinbrenner has to know it would be suicide to fire Torre. And I don't think he can afford to even slightly piss of his fan base after the Pettite debacle and a monster payroll. He needs every fan in the seats he can get.

But I'm not saing there won't be clubhouse problems. If there are, it will be because guys like Sheffield and Lofton are assholes, not because Torre is a lame duck.

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[Snoogans]

But I'm not saing there won't be clubhouse problems. If there are, it will be because guys like Sheffield and Lofton are assholes, not because Torre is a lame duck.

lame duck is any coach who you know is gone at the end of the year. torre already stated that is the case, he is a lame duck. thos guys will be assholes cause he doesnt matter to them


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[KERMIT]

Can we hear the deal is done and see Arod putting on a Yankee cap before we argue?

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[A.J.]

I admit it -- I'm stupid: exactly why is THIS deal OK and the A-Rod to Boston deal wasn't?

Too bad A-Rod won't be able to wear #3 in NY.

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[Cybersoldier]

Rodriguez would make a good addition to the Yankees batting situation to counter-act the Red Soxs pitching moves they have been making. Either way other teams will contiune to hate the yankee even thou in MLB has revenue sharing which the yankees are giving to poor-income teams.

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[HBox]

I admit it -- I'm stupid: exactly why is THIS deal OK and the A-Rod to Boston deal wasn't?

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[WindowSill]

I admit it -- I'm stupid: exactly why is THIS deal OK and the A-Rod to Boston deal wasn't?


The Sox were trying to pay A Rod as little as possible. When has George ever cared about the amount of money a player got?

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[KERMIT]

Rangers are gunna pay 67 mil of Arods contract so Arod salary with the yankees will be 16 million. which isent terrible.

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[Crippler]

I admit it -- I'm stupid: exactly why is THIS deal OK and the A-Rod to Boston deal wasn't?

The Sox wanted him to restructure & wind up with slightly less money & the almighty players union would have none of that. The Yanks might ask him to restructure for the purpose of deferring some of the cash, but he'll get every penny, so there won't be a problem with the union.

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[fluffernutter]

Isn't it amazing how in the world of sports today it is more talk about money and money instead of talent and talent?

I also have some somewhat rhetorical questions that have been kicking around concerning the Yankees and how they seem to get everyone and anyone under the sun.

Ok, the Yanks are in probably the biggest market in baseball and have a ton of money.

Why can't the Mets go out and spend some money?

Why don't the likes of the Dodgers and the Cubs who are in rather large markets and who also (at least I would assume) have lots of money, don't go out after anyone and everyone like the Yanks do?

Is it because the Yankees are the storied franchise of Major Leauge Baseball?

Is it the guarantee of playing for a winner every bloody year?

Is it the appeal of New York itself and arguably, I repeat ARGUABLY the best baseball fans in the country?

If the Yankees give money to the smaller market teams why do the smaller market teams not go out after the big names? I mean Pudge went to Detroit and I think that is just awesome. He genuinely comes off as if he wants to help a team get better and enjoys the challenge of it all.

Would a salary cap like in the NFL or NBA for that matter cause turmoil and problems for the leauge? Or would it make things better?

I just ask myself these things every now and again cause I wonder what teams are thinking sometimes.

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[KERMIT]

Arod looks good with that Yankee hat on espn.com :eg:

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[Davios]

The reason other big market teams aren't able to spend the same sort of cash is because the owners simply do not want to. Personally, I think Steinbrenner is absolutely necessary in major league baseball. There are owners who have MORE cash than Steinbrenner but they prefer to pocket the profits and spend th eminimum amount possible on the team without having fans rioting in the streets. Trust me, if it weren't for guys like Steinbrenner owners would try to spend even less.

[Heavy]

Yes Fluff, its because we are the storied Yankees, pay the most, and have the best fans. But listen, last time I checked, Pudge went to Detroit for the money, not to help the team. He lives in Florida and wanted to stay but left to play in a shithole because they paid more.

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I'm gonna go to bed now, but i hope this deal is offically done by the time i wake up. i'm loving every second of this...........FUCK THE RED SOX!!!!!

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[Heavy]

The Texas Rangers have agreed to send Rodriguez to the Yankees for second baseman Alfonso Soriano and a player to be named later, Sports Illustrated's Tom Verducci confirmed Saturday. Some contract details remain to be worked out, but a baseball source told Verducci no problems are expected.



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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...........HAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA Thats how u get it done. your in your out DONE DEAL. not take a fucking month and a half and wind up with shit.

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[Tall_James]

I admit it -- I'm stupid: exactly why is THIS deal OK and the A-Rod to Boston deal wasn't?

Because Bronx-born head of the players union Gene Orza is an admitted life-long Yankee fan and is probably somewhere in Steinbrenner's deep pockets.

This is seriously making me sick to my stomach.


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[Johnny4]

It looks like Fred Coupon is going to try to steal the Bosses thunder when he announces the A-Rod deal.
It's not yet confirmed but a source high in the Mets organization has reported that Fred Wilpon is going to repaint 3 of the mens bathrooms in the lower level of Shea Stadium (1 coat of paint per bathroom).

Jeff WIlpon has supposedly said that this major renovation of the venerable Queens ballpark along with the key signings of Ricky Bottalico and Jimmy Baldwin more than makes up for the latest move by the Boss.

Gotta hand it to the Mets - it looks like their plan is working!
I'm a Met fan, but this cracked me up.

I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything, I wasn't there and if I was there I was asleep.

[WindowSill]

I look at this as a make up for the Patriots winning the Superbowl.

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[yarpwizard]

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[newport king]

i was really looking forward to the baseball season and as a suffering mets fan i was also ready to root for the redsox. i remember arod talking some smack a few years ago when he signed with texas, the guy is a lifelong mets fan, and while the deal didn't work out with the mets he came out and said, "why would i want to play for the yankees, i'd rather beat them everytime i play them" how bout having some integrity. when the yankees go 150-12 this season every other team is gonna throw their collective hands up and say "you don't play fair" and there ought to be a cap pretty soon.

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Nice. Stop all your blubberin' you Mets and Sawx fans. Both teams had a legitimate shot at A-Rod, and both fucked it up. Stupid Mets and Sawx....again!

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I could careless the Yanks got A-Rod. Good for you. You needed pitching... you weakened yourself.

I ain't complaining... as long as he is not in the National League.

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[Johnny4]

I have to agree as a Met fan, you now know they would have taken Piazza and prospects. And still thrown a little money our way.

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[RingWraith]

The New Age Murderer's Row!!!!

1. Lofton
2. Jeter
3. A-Rod
4. Giambi
5. Sheffield
6. B. Williams (DH)
7. Matsui
8. Posada
9. E. Wilson or whoever

It's gonna be fun watching this lineup.

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[KERMIT]

I could careless the Yanks got A-Rod. Good for you. You needed pitching... you weakened yourself.


Keep telling yourself that. Our sp just fine.

I wonder if the homo twins Roger and Andy Still feel the way they do when the are getting rocked in 10 run feild.

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the lineup has the potential of the gas-house gorillas' conga line from baseball bugs .....

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[schmega]

its official (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/164624p-144225c.html) you haters. boo frikin hoo.

i'll take my chances with moose, vasquez, contreras, brown, and lieber. they only need to go 6 or 7 anyway. i hope pettitte blows out his elbow and roger dies of whatever it is a fat fuck like him can die of, the fat fuck.

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[A.J.]

Both teams had a legitimate shot at A-Rod, and both fucked it up.

True that. I'm surprised by this -- Theo redeemed my faith in Boston management by making the off-season moves he made. You HAVE to close that deal no matter the cost. Man, if A-Rod had gone to Boston and helped to win a championship he would have been elevated to God-like status in Boston -- like Russell, Bird, Orr and (now) Vinatieri/Brady.

Now tear down Fenway and build a new stadium with more seats and skyboxes so Boston can generate more revenue.

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espn has a great clip of ben affleck losing his mind over the trade .... classic celebrity breakdown

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If A-Rod goes to the Yankees What would they do with Jeter?


It's no longer an "if", and it's already been stated that ARod's moving to 3rd.

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The best thing about the Affleck tirade is that it was all about how the Yanks don't grow their players, they buy all their players. EXCUSE ME!? The Yankees STILL have more homegrown players, minus one which they traded to get A-Rod, than the Red Sox. If you live in a glass house...........

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If A-Rod goes to the Yankees What would they do with Jeter?


It's no longer an "if", and it's already been stated that ARod's moving to 3rd.

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what Would hapen to Aaron Boone Then??

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[badorties]

what Would hapen to Aaron Boone Then??


should he come back healthy, let him play second ....

but, again why worry about boone: the yanks have a half a billion dollar infield with four perennial all-stars/mvp cannidates and a coulple might be potential hall of famers -- let almonte or wilson platoon ....

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[stickyfingers]

The Yankees STILL have more homegrown players, minus one which they traded to get A-Rod


why who did they trade that was homegrown?



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[stickyfingers]

I wonder if the homo twins Roger and Andy Still feel the way they do when the are getting rocked in 10 run feild.


Wow...you leave and you are a homo...I just don't get it...I can gaurantee you that half the people that call themselves yankee fans used to put A-rod down are now getting in line to kiss his ass...its kinda funny to me





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[HBox]

why who did they trade that was homegrown?

Soriano.

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I wonder what Aaron Boone will do next to screw the Red Sox?????
Or maybe the damage has already been done.

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[stickyfingers]

we've discussed this before....soriano is not homegrown

did you consider Hideki Irabu homegrown?



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[badorties]

soriano isn't technically 'homegrown' .... the yanks bought out his contract with a japanese team, and then brought him up through the farm system .....

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[HBox]

Where was everybody decrying the Yankees when Soriano was initially signed? All this garbage was brought up when he became big, something which was not a guarantee when he was signed. He was a prospect, and the Yankees developed him. That every other team is cheap and gun shy shouldn't mean anything; he wasn't signed for a huge salary. The Twins may not have been able sign him, but the Mets, Red Sox, Indians, Dodgers and teams like that certianly could have. That they fucked up shouldn't be held against the Yankees.

And the difference between Soriano and the Yanks Japanese players is clear: The Japanese players were ready for the majors, and Soriano wasn't.

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well, i am not gonna take this argument personally....i am merely quoting what Chris Russo said, is he a good enough source?

Everyone and thier brother knew soriano was going to be good....the closest team to signing him was the Cleveland Indians and when the yanks found out that they were giving the yanks a fight for him he told Soriano's people that no matter how much they said they'd give him he would give them more.

If i had actual proof I would put it up here but all I can do is tell you what a pretty well-known sports talk show host said.....only with less r's



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This is why baseball kills me. I'm from Pittsburgh, the Pirates haven't had a winning record since '91. They then dumped their talent (Bonds, Drabek, etc) abd have been "rebuilding" ever since. Rebuilding in any sport should neer take more than three years because of the draft. Poor teams draft higher than better teams, or they trade their draft picks for established talent.

But, international players don't have to get drafted. tHe can declare as free agents. The NBA has major problems of its own, but they have one thing right--anybody who has never played in the NBA must enter the draft in order to play in the NBA. Soriano and both the Matsuies should have entered the draft as rookies. That way, a team without 100 wins or half-a-billion dollars could sign them. Now you have talent spread relativerly evenly throughout the League, and everybody has a chance. Now, more of each team's 162 games have meaning. Now the sport is more compelling.

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[Heavy]

I'd guess about %95 of players are not yet in the majors 3 years after being drafted. And you cant draft someone that has been playing prfessionally already. that doesnt make sense

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And you cant draft someone that has been playing prfessionally already. that doesnt make sense


Why not?

Edit: and to clarify -- I'm talking about players who have played professionally in other countries but not in the major leagues. Why would it not make any sense to have the MLB teams have access to them through a draft?

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[HBox]

Everyone and thier brother knew soriano was going to be good....the closest team to signing him was the Cleveland Indians and when the yanks found out that they were giving the yanks a fight for him he told Soriano's people that no matter how much they said they'd give him he would give them more.

I hadn't heard that. If true, you definitely have a point. But he still had to be developed, and everybody and their brother thought Todd Van Poppel was the next Cy Young.

This huge monetary advantage is a recent occurance, however. They have always had the largest resources of any team in MLB, but it hasn't gotten ridiculous until recently. I remember the days when the Blue Jays outbid the Yankees for Roger Clemens and the Orioles outbid them for Jimmy Key, Roberto Alomar and Albert Belle. And this was the time they built the dynasty mostly through their system and trades using homegrown talent.

Today, however, their buying is getting ridiculous. My original point is that, even if you discount Soriano, the Yankees still have more homegrown players than the Red Sox. If the Yankees weren't around, the Red Sox would be the Evil Empire and I really think they should realize that once in a while. The Yankees are the only thing standing between the Red Sox and evil.

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[KERMIT]

I wonder if the homo twins Roger and Andy Still feel the way they do when the are getting rocked in 10 run feild.


Wow...you leave and you are a homo...I just don't get it...I can gaurantee you that half the people that call themselves yankee fans used to put A-rod down are now getting in line to kiss his ass...its kinda funny to me
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Yes i used to call him GayRod. But now he is a Yankee. So he is now AROD THE GREAT!!!!!!

And btw Clemens and Andy Like Afflak and Damon are too damn close.

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Has anyone else been reading the posts on Sons of Sam Horn? It is a legendary Sox message board. They say A-Rod's new nickname will be A-Hole.

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[Crippler]

I'm still in shock that this actually happened...never would have imagined.

Can't wait to see the reception ARod gets on Friday, April 16th, as he steps to the plate for the first time in Fenway wearing Yankee grey. The boos will probably be audible in the Bronx.

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as met fan.. congratulate steinbrenner for doing something wilpons never was able to do. does anybody have the affleck meltdown online?

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Yankees are talking up that Arod is good for the Dominican population in ny
Arod is a Dominican as i am.

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If the Yankees weren't around, the Red Sox would be the Evil Empire and I really think they should realize that once in a while


I have to agree with you 100%. The Yankees wouldn't even have a reason to spend the way they do if not for the sox. Honestly, they could have filled their hole at 3rd with so many other players, andit would not have cost them soriano.

Would they have gone after A-Rod if the Sox hadn't? In all likelyhood, absolutely not.

Both of these teams, as well as a few others, need to be stopped immediately.

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[KERMIT]

Mike Francessa said that Arod is this yankee gerneration version of Mickey Mantle. Do you guys agree? jeter would have been but he did not put up the numbers as Mick did Arod does.

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[Davios]

Apparantly at the very end of the contract negotiations between Arod and the Yankees, Luccino ( owner of the sox) approached Arod through an intermediary offering him a deal to go to Boston without forfeiting any money, nothing. Arod's response to the intermediary?
"Tell Luccino to fuck off"

Absolutley priceless. It's on newsday.com under the sports section if anyone wants to read the
article.

And just on a side note, radio stations in chicago are "supposedly" reporting that NY is now trying to get into the running to pick up Maddux. It's gonna be a fun year.

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[Davios]

Yeah, he is. The Giants are supposedly nto very likely to grab him. The front runners were the Cubs, but personally the guy is on track to get his 300th win and his career isn't going to last forever. Why wouldn't he sign with a team who has very good odds to make it far.

[KERMIT]

And just on a side note, radio stations in chicago are "supposedly" reporting that NY is now trying to get into the running to pick up Maddux. It's gonna be a fun year.


Yea thats just scumbag boaras trying to use the Yankees to get more

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Luccino ( owner of the sox)

John Henry is the owner and had he been willing to spend the money like Big Stein does, A-Rod would have been a Red Sock.

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[Davios]

Could very well be. The guy is pure slime. The way he fucked over Texas was totally unscrupulous. I lost all respect for him after he convinced Arod to restructure his salary somewhat to give Texas a chance to sign some much needed pitching. Arod agreed in an attempt to help the team, and what did Boras do? He conveniently signed HIS OTHER client Park to a disgustingly overpaid salary even though he stunk, knowingly screwing Texas even worse than they were to begin with.

John henry is partial owner, so is luccino.

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[Se7en]

I fully support the Sox.

Because I know this: I don't like baseball.....find the game boring, don't even watch the shit.......but I HATE the Yankees. Pathologically.

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[HBox]

Because I know this: I don't like baseball.....find the game boring, don't even watch the shit.......but I HATE the Yankees. Pathologically.

I thought you'd like them. They're like the Republicans of baseball.

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I thought you'd like them. They're like the Republicans of baseball.


No F'en way! They are the F'en Kennedys of baseball. And I hate them just as much.

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[KERMIT]

Sportscenter is now reporting that the Yankees will also sign Gregg Maddux this week. Here we go again. Maddux may not be great anymore but he is still decent. With this linup who knows


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[Justice4all]

Ummmm excuse me...Red Sox fans????

BWAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! BWAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Once again you cannot seal the deal....Try to be cheap while getting the most expensive player in the league? What were you thinking. I mean REALLY!
Oh yes Crippler the boos will be extreme...about as loud as the Cheers will be from the Bronx.
I see no problem with this team functioning in the infield. Out defense and our offense just stepped up a few notches. Now if we could only do something about that DAMN PITCHING!

oh yes....and for all your haters who are crying the "you are buying the world series" weep of tears? Yes it certainly worked out like that LAST SEASON didn't it???? (that was sarcasm for the witless people who do not know how it sounds)

I am loving this...a little hesitant to see which A-rod will show up...the best buddy to Jeter or the spoiled rich kid.

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[Se7en]

Because I know this: I don't like baseball.....find the game boring, don't even watch the shit.......but I HATE the Yankees. Pathologically.

I thought you'd like them. They're like the Republicans of baseball.


If this was supposed to be an insult, it didn't work, as I have absolutely no fucking clue what you mean or how you're possibly tying the two together.

Nor do I really care.

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[Davios]

The Maddux deal is sort of confusing. Espn may have very well jumped the gun just basing this on a report wabc recieved. But if you trully think about it, it is a logical move for Maddux. It's very similiar to when Clemens came. He knows he's eventually going to have to leave the game.

I think with this Arod deal Maddux sees an oppourtunity to vault himself into the spotlight again and perhaps make a serious run at the championship on a team that's a contender every year.

[HBox]

If this was supposed to be an insult, it didn't work, as I have absolutely no fucking clue what you mean or how you're possibly tyring the two together.

Nor do I really care.

I was just trying to tie together the $200 million Yankee payroll and the $200 Bush re-election campaign.

BUT IT WAS A JOKE!!!!! WHY CAN'T WE GET ALONG!?!?!
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BUT IT WAS A JOKE!!!!! WHY CAN'T WE GET ALONG!?!?!
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*yells* Hbox! Come back! It's ok!

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If you cannot play nice with the other kids you will just have to do a time out young man!
Learn to get along!

And if you do not like baseball why make posts on this thread? (Just curious)

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[JPMNICK]

I think they are going to sign maddux, but they are waiting for the a-rod press confrence. i do not think they want to take any of the thunder away from the first mega-deal. Then, after this is over, they will announce the are signing maddux. World series here we come!

[Teenweek]

So I guess Maddux will be their 5th starter than. They than need to sign Jose Vidro or Bret Boone at 2nd base.

[newport king]

ok 2 things, with all the deffered money on his contract TEXAS will end up paying him 140 MILLION dollars for 3 years of service from AROD. so they paid him 46 million per year. Tom Hicks should have the rangers taken away from him for that.
and not nescessarily this year but i could see jeter eventually getting traded because of this deal. yes i know he's the captain and i know he's "got the rings" blah blah blah. but his numbers have gone down every single year, when they resigned him they grossly overpaid for him. now you bring in a guy that is without a doubt a better shortstop let alone all around player. say jeter gets hurt or starts slumping, you've got eric chavez from oakland becoming a free agent next year and is a great 3rd baseman. now maybe they move jeter over to 2nd but i don't see this ending well.
BTW, hearing this guy talk up the yankees during this press conference, considering he is an admitted mets fan is kind of hard to listen to.

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If you cannot play nice with the other kids you will just have to do a time out young man!
Learn to get along!

But.....but he started it!

Sorry, Hbox. I forget sometimes you're not Yerdaddy.

And if you do not like baseball why make posts on this thread? (Just curious)

Because every post is graced by my presence!

And I wanted to show solidarity to the anti-Yankees.

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[Crippler]

Because I know this: I don't like baseball.....find the game boring, don't even watch the shit.......but I HATE the Yankees. Pathologically.

It is exactly this kind of blind hatred for the Yankees that makes their haters (be they Sox fans, Mets fans, baseball "purist" et. al.) seem, all to often, utterly ignorant. That's not to say some people don't have good reason & everyone doesn't have that right...but it just holds no weight when you hate them just because they are the New York Motherf'n Yankees.

On a side note, fuck Scott Boras, Fuck Greg "I Throw 80 Pitches Before My Wittle Arm Gets Tired, But I Wear Glasses, So I'm Cerebral" Maddux. I hope he's just using the Yanks again to drive up Maddux' price elsewhere, we don't need a 5-6 inning starter, no matter how good those innings might be.

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[Def Dave in SC]

Try to be cheap while getting the most expensive player in the league? What were you thinking. I mean REALLY!


I don't get it.They weren't trying to be cheap, they were trying to be sensible. Anyone and thir mother will tell you that A-Rod is overpriced. I don't care how damn good he is, that is a lot of money. Theo Epstein is a new type of GM, hes a Bill James devotee, and he looks at talent in the same manner that Billy Beane and Paul DePodesta do. The whole philosiphy is that in general, GMs pay too much for useless stats. Fiscal responsibility is a big theme. Paying 45 million dollars a year for like 7 more years fo 40 home runs is in no way responsible.

Epstein is not a bad GM simply because he wouldn't make a foolish move to get a great player. And lets not forget that he had A-Rod, its the fucking Union that put the kibosh on the deal. They were scared that if the highest paid player took a pay cut, then all of a sudden, the owners would force every player in the eague to restructure their contracts. God forbid te average salary be somewhere near 1.5 million!!!!!!

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[Justice4all]

On a side note, fuck Scott Boras, Fuck Greg "I Throw 80 Pitches Before My Wittle Arm Gets Tired, But I Wear Glasses, So I'm Cerebral" Maddux. I hope he's just using the Yanks again to drive up Maddux' price elsewhere, we don't need a 5-6 inning starter, no matter how good those innings might be.

ps: Happy A-Rod Day!



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I HATE THE YANKEES AND THAT UNION FUCKER!!!! I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!


Gene Orza...

I am definitely NOT sold on this Yankees team at all as an impartial baseball fan. For several reasons

1. Sheffield has issues with Balco...that could turn ugly

2. Where is Bernie Williams going to play? He can't play centerfield any more, they were eventually going to move Soriano out there. Are they going to platoon him? At his salary?

3. Giambi's knees stink, and he can't play every day in the field. and there's no Nick Johnson to back him up any more

4. How long before Jeter gets injured, A-Rod takes over short for a couple games, dazzles everybody and starts the inevitable "where should who play" controversy?

5. Speaking of Jeter, his offensive numbers have declined every year since 1999....and he has shown himself to be remarkably brittle the last few years

6. Enrique Wilson at second? That Almonte guy? *snicker*

7. They don't have much speed outside of Lofton, and he's 500 years old

8. The Pitching...

Contreras: Stinks
Lieber: coming off MAJOR arm surgery
Brown: breaks down EVERY year, is also 50 years old
Mussina: Remarkably inconsistent last year...the guy would go from Cy Young to last year's Glendon Rusch from game to game. And how will he handle possibly being "the" guy in a city like NY? He's never had to be their number 1.

And the bullpen? Does anyone in there scare you? Nelson is what...40? And at what point does the 115 pound Mariano Rivera's arm finally fall off?

So finally, we've all seen that good pitching beats good hitting(See the 2001 world series). Being so, what happens if the Yankees miraculously win the American League Pennant, and face a team like the Cubs, whose Rotation goes 5 DEEP(Wood, Prior, Clement, Maddux, Zambrano)? Maddux did have an off year last year, but he still won 16 games, and he won't have to be the "guy" any more in Cubby land...he can settle into obscurity as their 3d starter....where hes more suited to be at this point in his career...

Comparing the yankees to a team like Boston, with 3 Number 1 starters, one of the best closers in the game(still in his prime), and a fabulously improved bullpen that did great in the playoffs, plus Pedro, Nomar, and D-Lowe all in contract years, and everyone not named Mike Cameron does great in contract years...I gotta say the Yankees won't even win the AL East...

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[KERMIT]

Comparing the yankees to a team like Boston, with 3 Number 1 starters, one of the best closers in the game(still in his prime), and a fabulously improved bullpen that did great in the playoffs, plus Pedro, Nomar, and D-Lowe all in contract years, and everyone not named Mike Cameron does great in contract years...I gotta say the Yankees won't even win the AL East...

HMMMMM Mussina Brown and Vasquez arent all #1 starters?

Keep being delousional Redsox Fans and Yankee Haters. It will Make the Pain just that much worse when we beat your asses ...........AGAIN. And Btw Lowe isent a #1


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[El Mudo]

HMMMMM Mussina Brown and Vasquez arent all #1 starters?

Keep being delousional Redsox Fans and Yankee Haters. It will Make the Pain just that much worse when we beat your asses ...........AGAIN. And Btw Lowe isent a #1



Lowe went 21-8 two years ago, and was 17-7 last year, even though his ERA was up. On most of the teams in the L, he would be a number 1. He's got one of the best sinkers in the game, and 3 pitches he can throw for strikes. I'd say he's a number 1...not a strong number 1, but a number 1 nonetheless

Mussina has never won 20 games, and as i said, was erratic last year although he went 17-8. Plus, he's about to turn 35. Vasquez went 13-12 last year, but he did strike out 230 people...Ill give you his status as a number 1

Brown breaks down every year, something I already explained...

And you never answered any of my queries about the suspect bullpen, just the same abject garbage about "Redsox Fans and Yankee Haters"


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[schmega]

mudo, funny how you fail to mention pedro and shill's health problems. and ask ANYONE in baseball, they'll take moose over lowe. just like they'll take a '115 pound' rivera over foulke, who certainly didnt get the job done in game 4 of the lds last season.

jeff nelson's not 40. he's also not on the yankee roster, you tool.

the boston lineup's got guys who had career years last year, and an alienated shortstop even more 'brittle' than jeter.

[KERMIT]

1st of all Sox would drive Lowe to Yankee Stadium for Mussina. and 2nd of all. Last time i saw Foulke. He was Spitting the Bit when it counted in the ALDS.

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And I hope all the Yankees arms fall off! BASTARDS!

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Try to mention A-Rod in your posts at least

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Sorry, you are right. I hope Arods arms fall off!

Also, I wonder if there is any truth to the Bullshit that the Wilpons discussed the possibility of a possibility of a possibility of a trade for arod internally but never followed through because they felt he didnt want to play for the Mets. Supposedly, according to the Wilpons, Arod only wanted to play for Boston or the Yankees.

I guess it pisses me off whether its true or not.

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The Yankees just signed Ron Bennington.

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Jimmy Fallon on Weekend Update:
"The Yankees signed A-Rod this week. Giving him the only thing Boston couldn't, (shows picture of Jeter). A boyfriend."

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I wonder if all that hot anal in the Yankee's locker room will bring them a title?

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Jimmy Fallon on Weekend Update:
"The Yankees signed A-Rod this week. Giving him the only thing Boston couldn't, (shows picture of Jeter). A boyfriend."

Yea i bet that little homo would like that wouldnt he. and by the way Fallon u homo he did not get signd. He got dealt u homo

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This message was edited by KERMIT on 2-23-04 @ 2:51 AM

[monsterone]

why shouldn't the market #1 for baseball have the best team?

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[monsterone]

forgive me mods, but this was emiled to me so i have no link for it:


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Ahem! The Yankees are not evil
02/23/2004

Ken Rosenthal
Sporting News

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The Yankees are not bad for baseball, and neither was their trade for Alex Rodriguez. Fans who want Major League Baseball to become more like the NFL
conveniently overlook the outcomes of the past three World Series. The Yankees did not win any of them. In fact, MLB has had three different champions the past three seasons, which is more than the parity-crazed, salary cap-diluted NFL can
say.

Doesn't anyone get it? The middle class in MLB is growing, thanks to a labor agreement that siphons money from high-revenue teams such as the Yankees and
redistributes it to low-revenue teams like -- ahem! -- the world champion Marlins. No team can match the Yankees' spending power, but high payrolls do not automatically equate to success, as evidenced by recent travails of the Mets and Dodgers.

Starting with Red Sox owner John Envy, er, Henry, Yankees haters need to get past their contempt for The Evil Empire and understand George Steinbrenner's brilliance. The Boss might be overbearing, but he knows how to run a franchise.
What's bad for baseball is that few other owners can say the same.

Steinbrenner benefits from owning a team in New York, but the Mets have many of the same advantages, and the Yankees are turning them into the Los Angeles Clippers. The Boss is a master at creating new revenue sources, from his
sponsorship deal with Adidas to his YES television network. A lot of good it does him. Under baseball's collective bargaining agreement, the more money he makes, the more he pays. As Yankees president Randy Levine says, "There are never any complaints when we write the check for $60 million."

Sixty million. That was the size of the Yankees' revenue-sharing and luxury-tax contribution last season; this season, it might be $75 million. In revenue sharing, each team contributes 34 percent of its local net revenue to a pool
that is redistributed equally to all 30 teams. With the luxury tax, the Yankees will pay 30 percent on every dollar they spend above this season's $120.5 million threshold. The CBA stipulates that the bulk of the proceeds go toward player benefits and baseball development projects.

In other words, Steinbrenner pays for everything but Bud Selig's dry cleaning.

Many fans instinctively yearn for a salary cap, and heaven knows the Red Sox are in favor of anything that will prevent the Yankees from embarrassing them again. Well, maybe Henry and Co. should start thinking more like Steinbrenner. No doubt, acquiring Rodriguez would have stretched the Red Sox's finances. But it also would have allowed them to: A) purge Manny Ramirez; B) acquire a seven-year fixture at shortstop; C) keep Rodriguez from the Yankees, and D) benefit from his immense marketing appeal.

What's all that worth, ladies and gentlemen?

Steinbrenner embodies the axiom, "You've got to spend money to make money." The CBA is rigged against him, and he's still collecting the most expensive toys. Imagine, if MLB had adopted a fairer system that based revenue-sharing
contributions on potential and not actual revenue, the Yankees still would pay more because they play in a large market. But they wouldn't be punished for making extra money. Nor would other high-revenue teams.

"The Yankees generate more revenue than the Mets, but (Mets owner Fred) Wilpon shouldn't be paying less to the system than Steinbrenner; then you're penalizing Steinbrenner for being good," says Andrew Zimbalist, a Smith College economics professor and author of the book May the Best Team Win: Baseball Economics and Public Policy. "You want to reward owners for being good. Otherwise, they have no incentive."

Of course, MLB never would accept such a plan, preferring to subsidize incompetent owners. Take Selig, for example. His family-owned team, the Brewers, received a reported $15 million in revenue shar