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SuperClerk
01-13-2004, 12:12 PM
From pwtorch.com

Triple H returned to the ring and started to cut a promo going nowhere about how he was the greatest world champion in history. This brought out Austin in his ATV, and so began the best segment of the night.

The two were mostly out-of-character joking with each other and teasing fans at ringside. One fan had a sign proclaiming Triple H the greatest World Champion ever and Austin said, "There's at least one dumb son of a bitch in the building tonight." Triple H concurred, calling him a stupid bastard.

The two went back and forth with their jabs. Austin teased Triple H's wardrobe and told him to put his hair in a ponytail and head back to the locker room. Triple H made fun of Austin's bald head and his "scooter." They started talking about the new WWE Originals CD and Triple H joked that he resented not being invited to sing on it. He challenged Austin to a singing contest, but it never happened. Austin then offered to share some beers with Triple H.

In the funniest moment of the night, Triple H said sarcastically that he hoped that "this won't be one of those deals where we start drinking beers together then you give me a Stunner. I wasn't born yesterday." Austin promised him he wouldn't beat him up, then got some beers from the ringside cooler. When they weren't cold enough, Austin and Triple H began terrorizing the ringside beer-babysitter for not bringing ice. Austin slapped his headset off. Triple H dared Austin to do the same to him, so he put on the headset. He then took the microphone and pretended it wasn't working, intentionally breaking up his voice. He traded mics with Austin, and did the same, claiming the production guys were messing with him. They gave the headset back to the guy, then took turns slapping them off his head. Somebody brought them a bag of ice, so Austin made the ringside beer guy throw the bag of ice over his shoulder "like Santa Claus" and leave the building.

Austin and Hunter got back into the ring with a beer. Triple H refused to share it with him, saying, "I don't know where your lips have been." Austin joked, "I know where your lips have been." Austin proposed a toast to Mick Foley, since it was his hometown. Triple H refused to toast to Foley and raised a toast to himself instead. Austin toasted, then gave Triple H a Stunner. He sold it real silly, not dropping to the floor, but instead wobbling around like he was drunk. Then he snapped right out of it and gave the fans two middle fingers. He turned around and got Stunned again.

After selling it in the ring for a while, he wobbled back to the dressing room. Austin threw him a beer on the rampway, and Triple H just shook it up and made it spritz the fans. Once Triple H left, Austin opened at least 20 more beers and left the ring, went up the rampway, and then returned to the ring for more beers at least six times, and messed with the cameraman for a while. The whole thing lasted until about 11:45. Austin was doing a midnight CD signing a few miles away.

Seeing those two joke around out of character was worth the price of admission alone. Triple H was especially great. When the fans chanted "We want beers," Triple H responded, "I know Long Island is into alternative lifestyles, but there's no need to chant 'We're all queers.'" And when they chanted "Asshole!" at him, he responded, "Coming from a collective group of assholes, that's not much of an insult."


"I know where your lips have been." Fucking classic!

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Crippler
01-13-2004, 12:47 PM
If it wasn't absolutely the opposite of the way they sell their company, the WWE's best selling DVD project would be a compilation of stuff that goes on off-air. This sounds like it was great...and it doesn't happen all that often, but when it does it usually sounds better than the product they put on TV that night.

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SuperClerk
01-13-2004, 01:22 PM
I agree. I'm still shocked that they included the Ric Flair celebration on the DVD.

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YoungJersey
01-13-2004, 04:14 PM
the question is:Why wouldn't make these very entertaining pieces on the actual show? i understand that they both were out of place but still it would be better than another stupid Mark hENRY bit or another 10 minute bore-a-thon

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Crippler
01-13-2004, 04:48 PM
I agree. I'm still shocked that they included the Ric Flair celebration on the DVD.

As much as I LOVED being able to see that footage when I bought the DVD, am I the only one who thinks that match & the aftermath was arranged solely as a means to get HHH's face into the DVD that recalls the history of arguably the greatest wrestler of all time?

I remember thinking that night...is this it?...is he retiring tonight? And as soon as I saw Flair continue to be an active part of the Evolution angle & knew he wasn't going anywhere just yet, this is the first thing I thought. Sure enough, turn over the DVD, and there it is, prominantly featured. I know that's taking the HHHatred a little far, but it is honestly what went through my mind.

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SuperClerk
01-13-2004, 06:32 PM
I think it was made out to make Hunter look better as well. I know some people that bitch because Triple H's face is on the 3rd DVD. (The disc itself)

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whorehay
01-13-2004, 07:08 PM
so if the internet had been around during ric flairs heyday, he would be as hated as HHH now. and if that, is HHH going to be as respected as flair when he's in his 50's by the next generation?

SuperClerk
01-13-2004, 07:10 PM
so if the internet had been around during ric flairs heyday, he would be as hated as HHH now. and if that, is HHH going to be as respected as flair when he's in his 50's by the next generation?


Please tell me how you came up with this theory?

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whorehay
01-13-2004, 07:21 PM
if the internet had been around back in the day, nimrods could instantly complain about ric flair never dropping the strap. and when he did, they'd complain about him getting it right back eventually.

not saying anyone in general is a nimrod. just the ones too passionate to realize this is just a athletic soap opera and not real.

SuperClerk
01-13-2004, 08:00 PM
But the difference is that Ric Flair was a great performer in the pre-internet days. I'd have absolutely no problem with Triple H being a long term champion if he was the same in ring performer he was before his injury and if he helped elevate other wrestlers from time to time.

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whorehay
01-13-2004, 08:35 PM
thats a good point. but politics is also involved. maybe booking yourself isnt always the best for everyone.

JustJon
01-14-2004, 05:49 AM
Keep in mind that in those days, most champions were longer term because they didn't have the exposure they had now. TV wasn't saturated with wrestling and house shows were actually important to the storylines.

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Crippler
01-14-2004, 06:48 AM
not saying anyone in general is a nimrod. just the ones too passionate to realize this is just a athletic soap opera and not real.

I think everyone here is aware of the respective amounts of reality & fantasy involved in professional wrestling. But, like people who watch soaps, we are passionate about it...to many of us it is our favorite form of entertainment.

And when a soap has a great evil character, it doesn't matter how good he is at playing the bastard, eventually it gets old. And if the scenario ever arose where the evil character played himself to the top storyline, then went away for a year, only to return & be welcomed back (even while still playing the bastard we're supposed to hate) for the exciting element he gave to the show...then, got too full of himself, simultaneously gaining nearly ultimate power and creating a spinoff show that featured himself & a cast soley paid to make him look good, while rehashing the same old storylines....eventually that soap would go off the air.

And, at it's base, I think a lot of the HHHatred can be traced to passionate fans not wanting to see one guy, no matter how good he used to be (and still to some degree is), ruining their favorite form of entertainment & possibly running it into the ground.

That's my two cents.

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whorehay
01-14-2004, 11:33 AM
if it were benoit who got the HHH push, do you think he would be getting all this slack?

i dont. he can actually wrestle. but thats just me.

one mo thing, how can i attatch a pic on here. i've got some good house show pics.

Crippler
01-14-2004, 12:05 PM
If it were ANYONE getting this big of a push...for this long...with nothing "fresh" about it in the past year+ or in the foreseeable future...who's not past his prime, but could improve his ring game to its' previous heights if he would just put his ego aside & lose some muscle in favor of some flexibility...who was getting the push by marrying into the family...I think they would still be getting flack.

If it were someone like Angle, Benoit, etc. who was getting this push because he could just flat-out "GO" and the company had no one else...then it wouldn't be nearly as glaring that one guy was living out his childhood dream at the expense of other people's careers and the vitality of the product he's always claimed to love so much.

Again, just my two cents.

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