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ag
01-12-2004, 04:33 PM
I dont uderstand how someone who has a huge house, drives a fancy car, dines out every weekend with his wife crys all the time about being so poor. Mewhile his lease is almost up on his fancy ass SAAB 95 and he's looking to lease a BMW 5 series, god I hate fucking people like this. WAH WAH WAH cry me a fucking river over the fact you have no fucking money

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01-12-2004, 04:36 PM
i didn't know it was a confession, but i don't like people like this either.

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01-12-2004, 04:38 PM
Ive heard it said that your expediture increases exponentially with your income.

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-12-2004, 04:38 PM
I confess. I'm not one of those people.

But truth be told-- they're up to their ass in debt and living way beyond their means.

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01-12-2004, 04:40 PM
I don't lease cars!!!

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01-12-2004, 04:54 PM
I don't lease cars!!!


Dude, you don't drive cars... :p

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sr71blackbird
01-12-2004, 05:00 PM
The only way to get ahead is to live within your means. Avoid debt at all costs and pay off your credit cards without carrying a balance. If you have money earning 3% in a savings account and you could use it to pay off a credit card thats sapping you for 16% interest, and you dont use that money to pay off your debt, then your losing money. It took me a while to believe that and until I accepted it, I was always in a hole.

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WRESTLINGFAN
01-12-2004, 05:22 PM
I dont uderstand how someone who has a huge house, drives a fancy car, dines out every weekend with his wife crys all the time about being so poor. Mewhile his lease is almost up on his fancy ass SAAB 95 and he's looking to lease a BMW 5 series, god I hate fucking people like this. WAH WAH WAH cry me a fucking river over the fact you have no fucking money



I know im going to get Ani Di Franco'd for this, but is that the definition of nigger rich?

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01-12-2004, 07:04 PM
I sleep in a racecar!

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TheMojoPin
01-12-2004, 07:55 PM
I know im going to get Ani Di Franco'd for this, but is that the definition of nigger rich?

Nope.

What are you, 1924?

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monsterone
01-12-2004, 09:37 PM
I dont uderstand how someone who has a huge house, drives a fancy car, dines out every weekend with his wife crys all the time about being so poor. Mewhile his lease is almost up on his fancy ass SAAB 95 and he's looking to lease a BMW 5 series, god I hate fucking people like this. WAH WAH WAH cry me a fucking river over the fact you have no fucking money



i missed the beginning of the show. was this a caller or what?



I know im going to get Ani Di Franco'd for this, but is that the definition of nigger rich?




Nope.

What are you, 1924?



technically it is, according to boiler room. having a benz and not $5 to put gas in it. ie, living beyond your means.

though there are plenty of people that live beyond their means to feed/ cloth their children b/c the work a shit job, lack an education/ skills to have any sort of career mobility, etc...

it's when you start to get extravagent that you run into trouble and guys like terror come knocking at your door

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TheMojoPin
01-12-2004, 10:06 PM
It's an older slang term than that, dating back to the late 1800's, and was applicable to whites and blacks for very different reasons. It's pretty easy to gather what it could mean for either race given what was going on in America at the time.

I never saw "Boiler Room", (I saw it the first time around when it was "Glengarry Glen Ross") and wasn't aware that it could possibly still be in use. Sadly, I'm really not all that surprised I was wrong.

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monsterone
01-12-2004, 10:22 PM
It's an older slang term than that, dating back to the late 1800's, and was applicable to whites and blacks for very different reasons. It's pretty easy to gather what it could mean for either race given what was going on in America at the time.



i've tried to find the origin of the definition with no luck. and i'm imagining in the 1800s, that if it applied to blacks, it was b/c they were slave/ plantation owners.

i don't remember catching it in gg gr, but even i modern terms, it applies the same to both races.

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TheMojoPin
01-12-2004, 10:27 PM
It applied to the blacks you described, but often just ANY black who came into decent (Relatively speaking) amounts of money in post-Reconstruction/Civil War America, or were perceived as trying to live "rich" - ie - "white," so not even necessarily beyond their means, just trying to live better than "normal" blacks.

It was also used towards whites who favored hiring blacks in what were seen as jobs that were more "suited" for whites. The white owners were making their money off of blacks in "white jobs," so they were looked at as being "nigger rich."

And no, the term wasn't used in "GGR". I was just saying I didn't see "Boiler Room" because everything in the trailers (And most of the people I knew who saw it) just said the thing was a "young, hip" update of "GGR".

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TheGameHHH
01-12-2004, 10:30 PM
the term is "nigger rich" according to boiler room, this should end here

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TheMojoPin
01-12-2004, 10:34 PM
Any movie with Vin Diesel AND Ben Affleck is not the final word on ANYTHING.

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TheGameHHH
01-12-2004, 10:36 PM
don't forget Giovanni Ribisi......and stop being so P.C., its lame


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monsterone
01-12-2004, 10:40 PM
just to beat a dead horse:



It applied to the blacks you described, but often just ANY black who came into decent (Relatively speaking) amounts of money in post-Reconstruction/Civil War America, or were perceived as trying to live "rich" - ie - "white," so not even necessarily beyond their means, just trying to live better than "normal" blacks.



sounds more like "nouveau riche".



And no, the term wasn't used in "GGR". I was just saying I didn't see "Boiler Room" because everything in the trailers (And most of the people I knew who saw it) just said the thing was a "young, hip" update of "GGR".




Any movie with Vin Diesel AND Ben Affleck is not the final word on ANYTHING.


and it's a modern day wallstreet, cheesy quotes and all. and don't forget the the perpetual retard, giovanni ribisi

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TheMojoPin
01-12-2004, 10:44 PM
don't forget Giovanni Ribisi......and stop being so P.C., its lame

Yeah, I don't know which role of his was better, when he played the retard in the movie with Juliette Lewis, or the one where he was the retard on "Friends".

Oh, sure, "nigger rich" is fine. It simply demands to be a part of everyone's daily conversation. Silly me.

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monsterone
01-12-2004, 11:02 PM
and stop being so P.C., its lame


don't worry, my hood and robes just came out of the dryer.





Oh, sure, "nigger rich" is fine. It simply demands to be a part of everyone's daily conversation. Silly me.


it's just a term. shit, if you google it, a post i made a while ago comes up #5. if you can come up with a more pc term for spending beyond your means, i welcome it. shit, ludacris had a million dollar necklace stolen recently. why would a person "need" a piece of jewelry that costs more than most peoples' homes. it's not right, but people who come from poverty (usually minorities) spend that much money on something like that? again, it's wrong to sterotype, but i thik it's established that sterotypes are rooted in some truth.

just like whitey being able to buy his way out of any situation. a sterotype, but true.

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TheMojoPin
01-12-2004, 11:10 PM
just like whitey being able to buy his way out of any situation. a sterotype, but true.

Yeah, but there's no moronic term like "whitey justice" or something.

A stereotype is a stereotype. Most of them are true somewhere along the line in some way, shape or form. The idea that this thread is based on is a legit one. The Roots mocked it pretty fucking hilariously in one of their videos. I just don't feel the need to use a blatantly stupid term like "nigger rich" to describe it.

If someone wants to use it all they want, hey, great, fine. I have no wish to stop them. I hope it fulfills something deep within them and makes their life a wonderfully better place, because apparently it's THAT important and necessary to them.

There's absolutely no need for that term to exist, period. People can try and pass it off, but whatever...that's the bottom line.

Someone wants to make fun of something for living like a dumbass and pimpin' it out while actually being broke as a joke? Go nuts with it. They deserve it. I just have no clue why it "has" to go to that next level. If it's that important for people to be able to use a term like that, let 'em knock themselves out doing so.

Hopefully literally.

Eh, who cares? Everyone will just chalk it up to "PC" and not give a shit about what I'm saying. I don't think I even listen to myself anymore. So if anyone is going to give me shit for being too uptight, don't bother.

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monsterone
01-12-2004, 11:42 PM
abso-fucking-lutely true mojo. but we are human/ retards and are never likely to progress beyond that. lets not put too much stock in turning humanity around.

my feeling, as long as your not pulling someone behind a pickup truck, it's all "cool." in the sense of hanging out with rednecks: you tolerate their ignorance b/c they're not acting on it. but "normal" people should be able to differentiate b/twn what is "right" and "wrong." words are words, but things like "patty wagon" are still in comon use

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sr71blackbird
01-13-2004, 03:38 AM
Id pay someone to serve Jury Duty for me, if I could.




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A.J.
01-13-2004, 04:29 AM
"nigger rich"

Is that Jersey Rich's African-American alter ego?

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curtoid
01-13-2004, 05:44 AM
But truth be told-- they're up to their ass in debt and living way beyond their means.

My folks did that - for my entire life I thought we had it pretty well. Nice, big house in a nice secure neighborhood in the nice suburbs of Alexandria. I had everything I wanted - they had everything they wanted.

Starting w/ Junior High, I began going to private schools with the likes of Sonny Jergeson's kid, or the son of "Burke" of "Burke & Herbert" (a local bank)...later, as documented elsewhere, I went to a boarding school with Johnny Puke...

Fast forward, three years ago (after things slowly sliding down hill), at the age of 70, my folks filed for bankruptcy, had to sell the house and most of their stuff, and move half way across the country. Turns out my entire life they lived beyond their means.

It's much more complicated (naturally) than that; in recent years there was an ex-business parter, and a law suit, and frozen assets; and bad, bad decisions (if there was a decision to be made, odds are Dad would make the wrong one); and a business deal that took over 10 years to see to fruition, and when it finally happened, it was worth 1/4 of what it was suppose to, and there were numerous people already waiting for a piece of it - ugly, ugly stuff. I hope none of you have to see your parents go through something like that.

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Patches
01-13-2004, 08:47 AM
NIgger Rich- They used it on the Bernie Mac Show. And as I've always said: If it's good enough for Bernie Mac, it's good enough for me!

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high fly
01-13-2004, 09:29 AM
The only way to get ahead is to live within your means. Avoid debt at all costs and pay off your credit cards without carrying a balance. If you have money earning 3% in a savings account and you could use it to pay off a credit card thats sapping you for 16% interest, and you dont use that money to pay off your debt, then your losing money. It took me a while to believe that and until I accepted it, I was always in a hole.



Yeah, like 500 billion in the hole...


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DeltaPin
01-13-2004, 08:05 PM
Yeah, but there's no moronic term like "whitey justice" or something.

Isn't that called lynching?

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MizzleTizzle
01-13-2004, 08:33 PM
were all spoiled rotten.

thats why no one is happy.

a passive inner life.

high fly
01-14-2004, 03:32 PM
Why do I keep thinking of Harry Dean Stanton playing "Bud" in Repo Man?

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