LSU/USC Title Game

[JimBeam]

I guess somebody was trying to get some closure.
Sounded kinda lucrative too.

LSU/USC Title Game (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1703748)

I have balls !!!

[Patches]

That would be awesome, and kudos to Gateway for trying to make it happen (never gonna happen).

I don't totally agree with the money distribution though. Something should go to the players on each team. They have already fulfilled their football obligations to the schools and if they were to play this game (never gonna happen) they should be compensated.

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[Snoogans]

ive laready played this game on NCAA 04 a bunch of times. usually who wins is based on who i play as, but i play better with LSU, so they would win.

see, issue all cleared up now

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The BCS is a fuckin crock of shit
The Heisman voters have about as much knowledge of things as dexter manly had ability to read
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[Freakshow]

I just love how everyone was getting worked up because the proper game of USC versus Oklahoma wasn't going to happen. But it turns out the game should have been LSU versus USC. So even if people were allowed more say in the game it still would have been wrong.

Just means we need a playoff.

[Snoogans]

VOTE

put the top 25 teams online, let the fans vote for the best one, top 2 vote getters get to play for the title. let the fans pick like it should be

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The BCS is a fuckin crock of shit
The Heisman voters have about as much knowledge of things as dexter manly had ability to read
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[Patches]

I just love how everyone was getting worked up because the proper game of USC versus Oklahoma wasn't going to happen.

Who was getting worked up over that? Everyone wanted LSU/ USC to begin with. After Oklahoma couldn't even win their conference, they should have slipped to #3.

But you are right. A playoff system is needed. Top 8 teams. And if the #9 team bitches they didn't get in, tough shit; be better than 9 next time.

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[JimBeam]

I agree with Patches first point. It should've been USC/LSU.

But I disagree on the 2nd point. Why should the 9th team be any different than the 3rd.
In your logic the 3rd, or 5th or 7th teams ( depending on how wide your " playoff " bases is ) should have been better too no ?

I have balls !!!

[Freakshow]

Wasn't Oklahoma favored over LSU? Were they not the #1 team most of the year. Did they not know they would play in the championship game regardless of whether they won or lost their conference championship game (i'm not saying they would have won if they wern't). Were they not number 1 in 5 of the 7 computer polls (i'm not real trusting of the human polls because they are almost entirely conditional on when you lose not how you lose or who you lose to)

Unless there was 2 undefeated teams and only 2, there will always be an argument that a different team should play in the title game.

I've been an advocate of playoffs for years. My team has had 5 undefeated season since 1968 where they recieved no share of the national title!

[newport king]

ive laready played this game on NCAA 04 a bunch of times. usually who wins is based on who i play as, but i play better with LSU, so they would win.

if this is the case, i would have been a 3 time heisman winner as rutgers starting rb and the scarlet knights would be 3 time national champs.

~another newport king joint~

[JimBeam]

Sure Oklahoma was #1 most of the year, but most doesnt define a season. Entirety does.
Why should Oklohoma's loss to K State be worth any less than USC's loss to Cal or LSU's loss to Florida ?
They keep crying that you shouldn't be penalized for a loss at the end of the season. Why not ?!
Anytime you lose you should drop. Didn't USC drop when they lost to Cal ? Didnt LSU drop when they lost to UF ?
As far as the polls go, you think the computers are onto something ?
The NY Times poll had a 2 loss Texas team ranked ahead of an Oklahoma team that scored 65 points against them.
That makse sense ?
There were clrealy problems in the past too though.
I assume you are a Penn St guy since you mentioned the undefeated teams with out a title.
But look at the ND/FSU scenario back in 93. ND beat them head yo head yet FSU only dropped to #2 in the polls. That never happens. The voters only did it assuming that ND would beat BC that year and that they'd have the great ND/FSU rematch. You can argue that ND shouldnt have lost to BC, and you're right, but even if they had beaten them they would've had to beat FSU again.
I'm no fan of playoffs. The current system will work with the proper checks and balances.
One thing that has to be done is that all conferences MUST have to play a title game in order to get an at large berth. This way you guarantee that the BCS teams are at least the best in their conferences.

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[Freakshow]

Yeah, i'm a Nittany Lion, class of '00 (graduated the same days as Lavar and Courtney Brown).

I personally thought the game should have been LSU and USC. I'm just saying if there was one team out of the Oklahoma and LSU game to put USC in, it would have been LSU--By the current B(C)S system, Oklahoma was still number 1 after the loss with almost a one point margin.

I also like neither human polls nor computer polls. I like the better team decided by playing each other on the field. That's the best way to know.

[Patches]

But I disagree on the 2nd point. Why should the 9th team be any different than the 3rd.
In your logic the 3rd, or 5th or 7th teams ( depending on how wide your " playoff " bases is ) should have been better too no ?!

Not really. if your #9, (even #5 and #7) You really don't have a legit claim to the national title anyway. Look at this year; only 3 teams could legitamately claim they should be national champs after the regular season. It would be like two 8-8 teams in the NFL and one makes the playoffs and the other doesn't. The other team really has nothing to bitch about; they weren't going anywhere anyway.

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[JimBeam]

I'm an LSU guy ( 90-95, left w/out the degree ) and even I thought USC was the better team.
I thought OK was over-rated from the beginning. The fact that the Big 12 itself was over-rated only helped their cause.

I mean the Big 12 was so proud about getting 8 teams into bowl games but they went 2-6 in those games with Nebraska & Texas Tech being the only winners. They were 0-3 vs SEC, 0-1 vs PAC10, 0-1 vs ACC, 1-1 vs Big 10 and 1-0 against independent Navy.

Overall the Big 12 also went 9-34 against the top 25s ( both ESPN & AP ).
The PAC 10 went 7-23 ( ESPN & AP ) and the SEC went 14-41 ( ESPN & AP ). These numbers are subjective because they count losses withing the conference but it doesnt change the fact that USC went 2-0 vs top 25 teams, LSU went 4-1 and OK went 1-2.

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[JimBeam]

But then was Ohio St not the best team last year ?
Wasnt OK the best in 2001 ?
These teams didnt have to prove anything further did they ?
You cant just add a game when you dont get the expected result.


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[Freakshow]

I'm just sick of this who should be in/who shouldn't be in talk. Like 99 when the first BCS came out for the season PSU was ahead of VT, based on polls and strength of schedule and whatever. I saw all kinds of VT people complaining about how they were going to be kept from the championship game. My opinion at the time was that things were going to work themselves out by the time the Bowl came around. What happened? PSU dropped not one, not two, but the last three games of the season and wound up in the Alamo Bowl. FSU and VT played it out on the field for the title.

However, I think if there was a playoff, PSU would have given either of those teams a real stiff game, if not won the whole thing (we did have the talent--first and second picks of the draft). I think the same thing with USC last year. If there was a playoff, I don't think anyone could have beaten them. But they had 2 losses and we not able to play for anything.