View Full Version : It must really kill Flair......
Evilpete
01-07-2004, 08:06 PM
that he has to go along with this moronic idea of "Evolution", a group that on it's best day couldn't hold the collective jocks of the worst version of the Four Horsemen....
I almost cried thinking of this while watching the Flair DVD collection the other day
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synthfiend
01-08-2004, 02:59 AM
I almost cried the day I saw them all holding gold. I just put my head down and kept repeating to myself "They can't be doing this.....They can't be doing this...."
Drugs weed out the weak and dependent.
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Teenweek
01-08-2004, 03:11 AM
It really must be killing him to be in the biggest stable in wrestling right now, with lots of air time, in a big feud with the Dudleyz. So according to you, I guess every 4 man wrestling stable is a copy of the Horsemen or is it only evolution because everyone hates HHH
Also he said one of the highlights of his career was the post raw celebration after he wrestled HHH. Give it a rest already.
SuperClerk
01-08-2004, 03:41 AM
Let's be realistic here. The original foursome of Flair, Ole, Arn and Tully were by far the best. It was passable after Ole left the group, but it was never the same. I'll even say that as long as Tully was with them, it still made for good television. The versions with Luger and Windham paled in comparison, but at least the core was still there. (Flair, Tully & Arn). So when Windham bolted to the WWF in 1989, the Horsemen officially died. All of the other versions that were brought back in the 90's were horrible. Sid Vicious, Paul Roma, Steve McMichael were horrible. Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko were great wrestlers, but they were not Horsemen.
The Evolution is just another stable. They just happen to have Ric Flair as a member. There have been many stables in wrestling over the last few years that have been good. Some have also sucked. We have to look at the Evolution for exactly what it is. A wrestling stable. There were stables before the Horsemen and there were many after. We can't continue to compare it to the Horsemen.
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synthfiend
01-08-2004, 03:47 AM
There were stables before the Horsemen and there were many after. We can't continue to compare it to the Horsemen.
I can't think of any stables besides the Horsemen and Evolution where each of the members held every major title.
Drugs weed out the weak and dependent.
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I can't think of any stables besides the Horsemen and Evolution where each of the members held every major title.
NWO
Hogan - World
Hennig - US
Outsiders - Tag Team
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Teenweek
01-08-2004, 06:04 AM
I can't think of any stables besides the Horsemen and Evolution where each of the members held every major title.
NWO
Hogan - World
Hennig - US
Outsiders - Tag Team
Didn't the NWO have like 20 people in it at that time with Scott Norton, Stevie ray, Virgil. Buff
SuperClerk
01-08-2004, 06:07 AM
The nWo doesn't count. Each of the members would to have had to hold a title. Not even all of Ultimo Dragon's titles would be enough to go around for all of those nWo stiffs.
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Teenweek
01-08-2004, 06:19 AM
They made up half the roster.
Gmann
01-08-2004, 06:59 AM
Didnt D-X at one point have almost every title ??
New Age Outlaws had the Tag titles
X-pac had the European title
and HhH had the Intercontinental title
Not too sure....correct me if Im wrong
Well, it kind of depends on when HHH was stripped of the IC title because of the knee injury. He won it at Summerslam 98 but never defended it. The Outlaws won the tag titles that night too. X-Pac didn't win the European title for another month. Then Shamrock won the IC title in a tournament in October. So it depends on whether HHH was still IC champ in September or not.
That was kind of long winded, and I am ashamed to have remembered all that.
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TomPoo
01-08-2004, 07:53 AM
I thought the Hart Foundation (Bret, Owen, British Bulldog and Jim and Anvil) held all the titles at once.
And didn't Team Angle had all the titles at once, didn't they?
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Se7en
01-08-2004, 09:19 AM
How can we not compare it to the Horsemen when the very premise of Evolution is that they're the Horsemen for the new millennium?
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Tenbatsuzen
01-08-2004, 09:34 AM
How can we not compare it to the Horsemen when the very premise of Evolution is that they're the Horsemen for the new millennium?
Well, you CAN compare it, but the comparison is shitty, unless it's a Four Horsement compromised of Mongo, Luger, Paul Roma, and a very trusting Sting.
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SuperClerk
01-08-2004, 03:18 PM
I thought the Hart Foundation (Bret, Owen, British Bulldog and Jim and Anvil) held all the titles at once.
Never. Owen and Bulldog were tag champions while Owen held the IC title. But Bret didn't win the world title until August. Owen and Buuldog had already lost the their titles by then. Neidhart never held a title in 1997.
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Freebird
01-09-2004, 06:51 AM
Flair is the most redeeming factor to Evolution. Even though he is at less than his legendary best, Flair can elevate any match! The crowd is always more involved when Ric is stylin' and profilin'!!
Flair even got a great match out of HHH when they had that Raw title match.
The combination was a bit annoying at first, but Batista has good potential and he can improve so much working with the Nature Boy.
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