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Katylina

12-19-2003, 10:33 PM

Wow- that is so interesting. Do you realize how OBSESSED with the topic of King Henry VIII and his wives and the Tudors in general? Any information like that, to me, is quite fascinating.

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12-19-2003, 10:48 PM

SilentSpic

12-20-2003, 12:39 AM

No wonder I gave up posting at this site...

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12-20-2003, 12:44 AM

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sr71blackbird

12-20-2003, 04:12 AM

I cant believe how in this day and age that the supposedly "educated" English still will not give up on this childish notion of ghosts. Unbelievable.

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DJEvelEd

12-20-2003, 04:22 AM

The ghostly figure appears to be in period dress.

"Period dress?" Ahahahahahahahaha

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DJEvelEd

12-20-2003, 04:38 AM

http://www.clarke.public.lib.ga.us/pathfinders/qelizabeth.jpg

The woman above is wearing a period dress. Look at all the pretty stains.

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Katylina

12-20-2003, 07:18 AM

OH THE HORROR! DESECRATING MY QUEEN ELIZABETH!

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12-20-2003, 07:46 AM

I cant believe how in this day and age that the supposedly "educated" English still will not give up on this childish notion of ghosts. Unbelievable.

Your talking about the same "educated" english who still have a fake king and queen right who have no power right? Just checking.

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Butters

12-20-2003, 10:03 AM

it not a ghost its simply a renactor going through a alley at night

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12-20-2003, 10:24 AM

I cant believe how in this day and age that the supposedly "educated" English still will not give up on this childish notion of ghosts.

They believe in ghosts but not in dentists. What a country!

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Snoogans

12-20-2003, 10:52 AM

i dont know why you would attack the intelligence of people who believe ghosts are possible.
in fact, anyone who believes in religion and says ghosts dont exist is slightly hipocritical.
if we have souls like we are said to, and they watch over everything from heaven, like is said to, how can you say some souls dont walk the earth.

maybe they werent allowed in "heaven or hell" and walking as a ghost is the equivalent of pergatory?

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ToddEVF

12-20-2003, 11:04 AM

what a hoax. thats just the guy who runs the tour

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Snoogans

12-20-2003, 11:20 AM

it may be a hoax, thats fair, but i still dont think its that ridiculous to think ghosts are possible, and im not even religious

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furie

12-20-2003, 11:24 AM

from another web site:

Professor Richard Wiseman, a psychology researcher from Hertfordshire University, yesterday cast doubt on the footage.

He said: "It is either a publicity stunt by the Palace, which I doubt, or it is a member of the public thinking they were being helpful by shutting the doors."

a member of the public wearing a 16th century dress?

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Snoogans

12-20-2003, 11:27 AM

also furie, he was closing the doors from the inside or opening the door from the inside. no way it was a member of the public

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sr71blackbird

12-20-2003, 11:32 AM

Snoogs, with all respect, ghosts are bullshit. British are notorious for thinking weird things like this. Dont tell me you believe in ghosts? What does religion have to do with it either?

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Snoogans

12-20-2003, 11:36 AM

Dont tell me you believe in ghosts? What does religion have to do with it either

uhhh, jesus died and rose again, what do you think he rose as? what do you think a spirit is

holy ghost and all.

and yes, i do believe in the POSSIBILITY of ghosts, but since i have never seen one, i cant say they exist

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sr71blackbird

12-20-2003, 11:44 AM

The Church says he rose again as himself, not a ghost. I look at ghosts as I look at the tooth fairy. Its been shown time after time that the phenomenon that people think they see are really in their own imagination. The English still think there are dinosaurs swimming around in Scottish lakes, warewolves, vampires, and "creatures" lurking around in their own island that no ones identified yet!

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Snoogans

12-20-2003, 11:48 AM

i agree on the vampires and such, but i really dont believe in religion, but still do in spirits. as long as people believe spirits exist, its possible for there to be ghosts

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furie

12-20-2003, 11:50 AM

uhhh, jesus died and rose again, what do you think he rose as?

yeah! wait, what?

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DJEvelEd

12-20-2003, 11:50 AM

a member of the public wearing a 16th century dress?

Would that be a.................PERIOD DRESS?
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PERIOD DRESS!!!YA GET IT? Haw haw!!

PERIOD heh heh.....dress?

period? heh heh?

You know, a dress you wear once a month all red & nasty?

no?

umm.... forget it! I'll sit here and laugh out loud to myself as usual!

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phixion

12-20-2003, 03:36 PM

I cant believe how in this day and age that the supposedly "educated" English still will not give up on this childish notion of ghosts. Unbelievable.

no offense but anything is possible. many things we once understood as 'fact' has been proven wrong. just look up heliocentricity. or hell look up darwinism. in the early 20th century a teacher was fired for teaching evolution. anything is possible.

and am i the only person who isnt seeing anything in that damn picture?

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12-20-2003, 06:25 PM

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MizzleTizzle

12-20-2003, 07:02 PM

no offense but anything is possible. many things we once understood as 'fact' has been proven wrong. just look up heliocentricity. or hell look up darwinism. in the early 20th century a teacher was fired for teaching evolution. anything is possible.

The history of science would agree with this. In fact, the history of science is filled, brimming over, chock-fulla instances where what at first seems like an utter impossibility becomes later validated as true as can be by and standard of measurement.

What is this photo? Occam's razor dictates somebody in a natural getup over a supernatural other. And I follow the razor. However, when we take all the times in science where up became down, and left became right, and we discovered thing we had utterly no idea exited until our technology was up to the task.

Ghosts a la Swayze? Oh I hope not. But let's say this about the current state of things. Depending on who's theory is most popular at any moment, we can't detect the vast majority of matter in the visible universe. I don't mean beyond our seeing, I mean the angular momentum of spiral galaxies is such that they must contain many many times the matter then we can detect with anything we have.

So; if we don;t even know what the majority of the Matter part of the universe is, or where it is, or what form; what can we say about the Energy part? And any other parts that, again, may well exist all around us, but we are utterly, utterly unaware of.

As to things 'no ones identified yet', they arent in scottish lakes, but they find new stuff all the time:

Possible New Whale Species (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/11/19/japan.whale.ap/)

New 'massive' Jellyfish Species Found (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/05/0505_030505_tvnewjellyfish.html)

phixion

12-20-2003, 08:18 PM

not to mention other dimensions that we dont see, we only have sight of 3 dimensions. but imagine if we could 'see' electromagnetic waves, then the entire world would look very different to us. for the sake of argument we could just as well have aliens walking among us, just in a form that we have yet to detect. as i stated before anything i spossible, and we need to look beyond our limited sight to find answers.

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monsterone

12-20-2003, 08:34 PM

man, remember the ghost in 3 men and a baby

http://www.snopes.com/movies/graphics/ghost.jpg

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sr71blackbird

12-21-2003, 04:00 AM

All I can say is, wouldnt the # of people who have died already, far far outnumber the living? This image is suppose to be the visible spirit of someone who is dead? If spirits were visible and able to be photographed, wouldnt it have been apparent to us by now that these things exist? We would be bumping into them all the time! All these things are in our imagination. Consider the clue to this picture; they were checking the security cameras to see why the doors were being left open, which indicates that the open doors were enough of a bother to someone to go check the security department. The place is a building of historical importance and they have people that work there wearing period attire... Is it such a leap that one of the staff, knowing that it bothers someone and knowing that they would check the security tapes to see who left the door open, would dress that way and open the door? What a great way to attract business!

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sr71blackbird

12-21-2003, 04:02 AM

man, remember the ghost in 3 men and a baby

That was a carboard cut out thats visible in other scenes.

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Tall_James

12-21-2003, 04:34 AM

Later that day, this image mysteriously appeared on their video screens...

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phixion

12-21-2003, 07:08 AM

Is it such a leap that one of the staff, knowing that it bothers someone and knowing that they would check the security tapes to see who left the door open, would dress that way and open the door? What a great way to attract business!

no its not that big of a leap, and in all probability u are correct. but i take offense to the fact that u believe those that believe in the impossible are fools. i just like to keep my mind open, cause im fairly certain before i die science will make a huge discovery and discover everything they believed in was wrong. it blew my mind when i learned that all matter are particles and waves, so if i believe in that ill keep my mind open for everything.

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12-21-2003, 01:16 PM

I have seen 3 different ghosts in 3 different places,and one of them 4 times.Either you see
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get "a feeling",and turn to just catch a fleeting glimpse as he leaves the main room.Cool as hell;not very frightening.Anybody want to see this? 
 
 
 
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MizzleTizzle

12-21-2003, 01:45 PM

Ah cool I remembered the example I was trying to remember but forgot until I remembered so...

I forget which book, but Carl Sagan describes his life of research on claims of UFO's, ETs, the SETI, and other capital letters.

What he came away with, after an intensive investigation of the claims of people who have been either a] visited by an alien or other entity, or b] were vistied by same and taken [abducted] to another place.

His conclusion: While he doubts that people are indeed being visited, he was utterly clueless as to how to explain away the evidence.

I do Not mean that the evidence was real. He was simply blown away by interviews with people he saw, and conducted himself. He could only conclude that for many of these people; they do indeed believe this happened or is happening. The commonality of the visions was also surprising, and again, of course, we all know what the stereotypical ET looks like; but again, what he was blown away with was people who had reams of history, going back to before they could talk, of being visited, and visited all their lives, to the scorn of family, and employees, etc.

What I am trying to get across is YES I think that photo is a FAKE. I think the stereotypical Ghost is Fake. But, something in our collective psyches is ringing true with this notion of Alien Abduction. To a disquieting degree. To surprising numbers. To people who must be doing a lifelong job of acting, because these people, whether it is true of not, BELIEVE. I'm talking a tiny minority of all the reports. Ah, screw it now I gotta go look it up...

Sagan's opinion, not mine. And hey, maybe he's full of shit too, so...

furie

12-21-2003, 01:51 PM

Why do we only see ghosts from recent history? if ghosts are immortal, why don't we see ghosts from Antiquity, or even neanderthal ghosts?

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sr71blackbird

12-21-2003, 03:46 PM

but i take offense to the fact that u believe those that believe in the impossible are fools.

Im sorry if you take offence to it, its just when I think about the vast #s of dead that must have been alive (obviously) and to become ghosts, I have to question how its possible to have something tangible (that can open a door, say) and be visible and there not be an overwhelming amount of them, all over the place, that it becomes really unlikely.
As far as the commonality of the face of UFO abductees accounts of aliens, I have a belief that as we were born, and out eyes werer adjusting to seeing things, one of the first things we were constantly seeing is the human face. The eyes of a newborn, not enterpreting what this whitish oval with this pair of dark almond shapes over a slit that it kept seeing must have been terrifying to it. I think the alien face is little more than the first terrifying image that a person sees, it follows a typical pattern. Your warm and comfortable, suddenly, your thrust into this brilliant cold environment with these shapes hovering above you, they poke and prod and examine you. Thats what I think it is.
Mike can tell you about the vast distances a venturing extraterrestrial would have to travel, the time and energy for such an undertaking.
Also, in regards to you mentioning waves and particles as energy, and portals into differnt dimensions. Earth is traveling around the sun, and the sun is traveling around the outer edges of the galaxy. The galaxy itself is also moving through space, away from the center of the universe. Where we are right now is where we have never been before. The Earth in its travel, is in a place right now that it has never been before, even though its spinning and also moving in an ellipse. Ok? So, if when a person dies and turns into
"energy", is that energy so powerful that it can follow a planet as it moves through space an time?

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DJEvelEd

12-21-2003, 04:03 PM

So, if when a person dies and turns into "energy", is that energy so powerful that it can follow a planet as it moves through space an time?

Maybe the planet is moving through the energy too. So, yes.

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sr71blackbird

12-21-2003, 04:07 PM

Think of the "energy" as smoke from a cigarette you exhaled as you rode down the deck of an aircraft carrier. But the carrier is moving across the sea.

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DJEvelEd

12-21-2003, 04:27 PM

This "Grand Unified Theory" the scientists are working on is supposed to find the single thing that connects all matter. It may be wavelengths, quarks, frequencies, superstrings ect... and this "God Particle" will transcend time and space. There would be no escape.

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Snoogans

12-21-2003, 04:36 PM

just eat these shrooms and ill show you ghosts

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sr71blackbird

12-21-2003, 04:38 PM

Im sorry if I came off negative, this is just what I believe.

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Bill From Yorktown

12-21-2003, 04:59 PM

dont get me wrong, I am a bit of a cynic (sp?) but my wife seems to be sensitive to certain things that are not easily explained, so I 've used her as a yardstick in the past - she got the goosebumps which generally means spook not spoof.

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

12-21-2003, 05:24 PM

I love stuff like this. When I was a kid I wanted to be a parapsychologist (aka-- a ghost buster).

This ( http://www.castleofspirits.com/index.html) is my current favorite Web site.

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furie

12-21-2003, 05:26 PM

study string theory

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monsterone

12-21-2003, 05:26 PM

i see dead people.

did i mention that i work in a morgue?

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Bill From Yorktown

12-21-2003, 05:32 PM

study string theory

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12-21-2003, 05:38 PM

String theory is a really awesome idea. And it makes perfect sense too.

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furie

12-21-2003, 08:04 PM

Well, I wouldn't say perfect sense. after all, string theory predicts a mass-less particle. that concept makes my head hurt.

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DESERTEAGLE.50

12-21-2003, 09:58 PM

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DESERTEAGLE.50

12-21-2003, 09:59 PM

Thats not just the pic...its the vid...!

Woo hoo ha WOO hoo!!!

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monsterone

12-21-2003, 10:05 PM

de.50, i don't get the video. the ghost opened and closed doors at random?

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DESERTEAGLE.50

12-21-2003, 10:46 PM

apparently, yes...i dont really know...it was just fucking around, maybe

all I know is that its made me pee dead ppl

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sr71blackbird

12-22-2003, 06:33 AM

To me, that video shows doors blowing open and someone inside who might have just been passing by trying to close the doors as the wind was blowing them open. The wind apparent from the "stationary" security cameras motion.

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