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keithy_19
11-20-2003, 12:16 PM
My history teacher said that if anyone wrote a paper about how Vietnam almost, or could have ended the world he would give us something really cool. He said he might even give out money which would be wicked awesome. He said though, the information is hard to find. But we have the smartest people in the world on this board. So, anyone know?

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high fly
11-20-2003, 12:17 PM
I'll send you 5 bucks if you can write a paper proving that Groucho Marx invented the moon.

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high fly
11-20-2003, 12:18 PM
He probably meant Cuba, where the Rooskies had tactical nukes, so if we had invaded we mighta had us a WWIII.

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This message was edited by high fly on 11-20-03 @ 4:20 PM

Furtherman
11-20-2003, 12:21 PM
I'm not doing your homework. No one did mine.



I mean no one... not even me.


Would you like fries with that?

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Steels
11-20-2003, 12:35 PM
You are absolutely and consistently the worst poster on this board.

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A.J.
11-20-2003, 12:36 PM
Talk about a Mod Quote.

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high fly
11-20-2003, 12:37 PM
I like what it does to the average, though....

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SatCam
11-20-2003, 12:41 PM
Mike the T and TooCute, I'm expecting you both to give this kid the most embarassingly bad report for him to turn in tommarrow.

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IrishAlkey
11-20-2003, 12:47 PM
This thread reminds me of the time Bud kept giving Kelly really skewed information to use on her book reports for school.

Do you really know about Moby Dick?

Yeah, Kel. It even had its own theme song... dadada dum *snap snap*

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high fly
11-20-2003, 12:49 PM
Moby Dick! Yeah! I'm taking that to the Victoria's Secret thread!

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Snoogans
11-20-2003, 01:04 PM
ill give you money if you can write an essay explaining exactly how the fuck you even made it to HS

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keithy_19
11-20-2003, 01:11 PM
Its just a question fellas. No need for everyone to get bitchy.

And I got to highschool by studying and banging a few of my teachers. ;)

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Snoogans
11-20-2003, 01:15 PM
And I got to highschool by studying and banging a few of my teachers.

Essay Form (http://webster.commnet.edu/mla/index.shtml)
seriously man, i said an essay. ya know, an idea with a paragraph giving reasons to support that paragraphs idea.


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SatCam
11-20-2003, 01:24 PM
If you're looking to cheat, why dont you just type into google "how vietnam almost ended the world." I'm pretty sure you wont find good results, but I'm also sure vietnam didnt almost end the world.

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keithy_19
11-20-2003, 01:27 PM
I'm just doing what my teacher talked about. He said it had stuff that dealt with science and what not.

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SatCam
11-20-2003, 01:31 PM
search for atomic bombs. I wouldnt waste my time getting extra credit unless I was going to fail the class. No extra work for me.

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high fly
11-20-2003, 01:32 PM
Them Congs was real scientific.

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billyio
11-20-2003, 01:48 PM
I'll give ya a quick little outline,champ.

Obviously, the U.S. did not want to offend the Soviets or the Chinese with a full scale attack of the North during the war. There were political considerations,such as Cambodia and Laos, as well as the Chinese border. Add Soviet MIG fighter pilots to the mix also.

Additionally, and this is the point that you should concentrate on,but during the 1968 battle of Khe Sanh, the U.S. considered using tactical nukes to clear the area for the surrounded U.S. Marines.

A good source that comes to mind is Stanley Karnow's Vietnam.

Good luck.

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carcass
11-20-2003, 02:03 PM
I think it may have something to do with the domino theory[ the reason we started the whole mess]...if we didnt confron the commies there , where? and yes we were worried about the chinese..ans the real commies...thats what politisised [ sp] it..if we just let em go w.out a fight the whole world may have gone commie...under a socialist banner ..hell look at europe today ..socialist's

I worked with a k san vet.he was wounded a 3rd time right before it happened.and his co refused to let him go home...that war messed him up....

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Bill From Yorktown
11-20-2003, 02:04 PM
it all basically started when the Germans bombed pearl harbor....

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Mike Teacher
11-20-2003, 02:07 PM
Mike the T and TooCute, I'm expecting you both to give this kid the most embarassingly bad report for him to turn in tommarrow.


Hilarious.

Dont sweat it, I dont do Homework.

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Mike Teacher
11-20-2003, 02:15 PM
Well, I will say this; if you're Teacher is looking for some Specific scanario, then you are SOL because I can think of a few dozen.

People forget about the wisps of fate. Everyone will Monday Morning QB this, but for WW1 and WW2 I say, it easily could have gone the other way. The germans had gobbled up europ quite nicely, and if not for the Battle of Britain...

And who knows on the Pacific Theatre? Some say Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a necersary Cruelty that saved thousands of lives on both sides by ending the war quickly. Who knows? What if the Manhattan Project had failed utterly? Believe me on that one I can tell you Many on the project were, even the night before, showing calculations Proving it would not Work. And it did.

And if they hadnt surrendered? Or if Korea never happened?

Too many variables. If we rewound the 'tape of life' to say; 1800, how differently might things be? Is this THE future, or is it just the one of infinite ones that played out...



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Bill From Yorktown
11-20-2003, 02:25 PM
Mike, then there was the reports early on (I think even Oppenheimer had his concerns) that they really were not sure that the chain reaction would stop short of taking out a huge chunk of the planet's surface. (unless I'm mistaken) - sobering thought. Sounds way too much like that supercollider test they ran a couple of years ago - again the math was a little fuzzy and some of the experts were concerned about huge side effects (like Earth ending)

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MHasegawa
11-20-2003, 03:00 PM
No Vietcong ever called us "nigger"!!

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IrishAlkey
11-20-2003, 03:10 PM
necersary


Jersey accent?

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reeshy
11-20-2003, 03:15 PM
No, it's true...The VC almost did end the world and I can prove it. When me and Bobby DeNiro were serving together in the"Nam", we regularly came across nuclear facilities designed to make 30 megaton rice bombs. They also had chemical plants that used water buffalo shit to make toxic gas missiles!! NO SHIT!!!!

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Snoogans
11-20-2003, 03:18 PM
reeshy that wasnt you that was Ron

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IrishAlkey
11-20-2003, 03:19 PM
Those flashbacks come hard and heavy at your age, don't they, Reesh?

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Bill From Yorktown
11-20-2003, 03:23 PM
reeshy that wasnt you that was Ron

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reeshy
11-20-2003, 03:24 PM
Hey Alk,
Weren't you that little bar girl I had in that whore house on De Luc street in Saigon???

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IrishAlkey
11-20-2003, 03:26 PM
You remembered the basket trick?

How sweet.

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11-20-2003, 03:59 PM
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IrishAlkey
11-20-2003, 04:00 PM
Bonus!

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high fly
11-20-2003, 04:11 PM
Them Congs -- remember them conical shaped hats they used to wear?

They made one that was like a hundred feet long and put a nuke in it.

They was gonna fling it over at us with a giant slingshot, frisbee-style.

The Newnited States Guvamint found out about it and sent me and my Howling Commandos over there to stop it.
That's right, the name on my uniform was HIGH FLY, but everybody knew me as SERGEANT FURY!
(alarming discordant sound)

Quang Tri, 1967, me and Kalachecki were just checking in from a search and destroy mission when the call came.
We didn't even have time to clean the guts of all those villagers off our fatigues- oh I can hear the voices now in my head!....

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TheMojoPin
11-20-2003, 08:43 PM
Vietnam no destroy the world.

Too beaucoup.

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zoom2457
11-21-2003, 04:49 AM
You are absolutely and consistently the worst poster on this board.


I don't know if I'd say he's the worst, but he's up there.

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Yerdaddy
11-21-2003, 05:03 AM
start here:
<a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB81/" target="_blank">Nixon's Nuclear Ploy: The Vietnam Negotiations and the Joint Chiefs of Staff Readiness Test, October 1969</a>

<a href="http://www.thebulletin.org/issues/2003/jf03/jf03burr.html" target="_blank">Nixon's nuclear ploy
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A.J.
11-21-2003, 05:19 AM
I'm just doing what my teacher talked about. He said it had stuff that dealt with science and what not.

Sounds like a "Teacher of the Year" to me.

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TheMojoPin
11-21-2003, 07:10 AM
Sounds like someone is "hiding their Ritalin" again.

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Duke
11-21-2003, 06:01 PM
i dont know if someone said that awanser bt this is probley it..


The United States was in War with The V.C which was backed up by the Soveit Union and China......Anyway first of all Look home many men were killed...If we kept on fighting are Army would of become weak.... Which Russia Would of Fired Nuclear Missles......Then We would fire back...Then England would Probley Fire Back at Russia... Then eventully all the Counrys would come into it.....The the DMZ would be over runned....It Would of Probley been V.C North Korea Russia East Geramny. VS. England United States South Vietnam (which would even make a diffrence) South Korea, West Germany Canada..The After the would probley ended The Countrys that didnt get hit like South Africa and Stuff would rule whats left of the world...

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IrishAlkey
11-21-2003, 06:04 PM
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El Mudo
11-21-2003, 09:05 PM
Maybe the Chinese woulda got pissed off more than they should have when the Russians backed the NVA in their short war with China in the late 70's...but did China have the Bomb then?

Hell, it would be easier to write a paper on how Korea almost ended the war what when MacArthur wanted to nuke the Yalu and China proper to keep the Chi Coms out of the war...

Or maybe, maybe, a discovery during the war of all the Chinese that were fighting with the NVA and maybe there were Russians there too..I remember in the book "We Were Soldiers Once..and Young" Col. Hal Moore at the Ia Drang reported some suspicious looking NVA who looked Chinese, but some suit he'd never heard of got on the hook and told him to never...EVER...mention that fact again to anyone...

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