how the matrix trilogy end:

[phixion]

WARNING THIS IS A SPOILER OF SOME REALLY CRAPPY NEWS:

the movie ends with the machines and people living happily ever after, sharing this one fargile planet.

I'm not the only who thinks this is the worst possible way of ending this trilogy am i? i wouldve preffered every human dying, and machines won, then a crappy ass 'disney' ending.

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[HBox]

Yeah, I read that too. I'm gonna reserve final judgement until I see it, but it sounds pretty stupid.

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[TheMojoPin]

As long as mondo ass gets kicked along the way and it looks unspeakably cool, why should we care how it ends? I certainly don't care about what's happened to this point in either of the other films.

Since when did these become ACTUAL good movies? Shoot-shoot-bang-bang-kick-kick! Live in the NOW, dammit!

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[phixion]

Since when did these become ACTUAL good movies?


the first matrix was a good movie. the story may not have had anything original to it but it was told in a manner that i cared about. i actually wanted neo to go and save morpheus, but i lost that in reloaded when i wanted trinity to die.

the ending makes a movie, look at 6th sense its a perfect example. a mediocre movie at best with one hell of an ending!!!!

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look at 6th sense its a perfect example. a mediocre movie at best


Perhaps, but before Haley Joel Osment became a cliche of himself, he did some pretty amazing acting in this, i thought.

Even if he sucked, who played his mother? I forget, but the scene where HJO is telling her about 'grandma' [her mother] and her being at the dance recital; she is at first surprised, then angry, then horrified, and then she breaks down when she realizes he's not BS-ing.

This was, for me, one of the best performances by anyone ever. She was amazing.



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This message was edited by Mike Teacher on 11-2-03 @ 2:39 PM

[Gmann]

Toni Collette is the actresses name

[TheMojoPin]

the first matrix was a good movie.

Was it?

I thought it was, and still do, an excellent ACTION film, with incredibly innovative special effects and film-shooting techniques. The film brought a whole sack of new tricks to the table in terms of the craft of filmmkaing itself, but story-wise...eh. A decent twist or two, but need we forget the only reason Neo survived was because Trinity "would fall in love with THE ONE! *OMGGASPSOBLOL!11!11111*" It was the horribly laughable capper in a movie where the script was mostly vague "Zen-ish" one-liners that would cause Deepak Chopra to blush and George Lucas to sport an errection from here to Dagobah. The Wachowski Brothers made a film that LOOKED fantastic, and used that to mask the fact that the actually story itself had little depth, substance or explanation behind it.

I still have fun watching it. But I don't EXPECT anything out of it.

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[keithy_19]

I heard that it was all a dream and the charecters wake up with Bob NewHeart. Then again I also heard it was all in the mind of an autistic boy...

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The ending could have been worse, They could have been in a Matrix within a Matrix this whole time.

the first matrix was a good movie.Was it?

I think it very safe to say, YES The original Matrix was a good movie. It has flaws and some didn't like it, but hell, there are even a few people who didn't like The Godfather, Citizen Cane* or the greatest movie EVER made: The Godfather Part II.

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I heard that it was all a dream and the charecters wake up with Bob NewHeart.


best ending ever

so nice they did it twice

[Se7en]

I'm going to post this here, because after reading it, Reloaded made infinite more sense to me.

The Matrix Explained:

[quote]The One explained
"The One" is a program, but has to be "attached" to someone in the Matrix. So Mr. Anderson got it in the 6th version of the Matrix. Then "The One" program's purpose is to allow Zion to be destroyed then to rebuild it. The reason for this is because of anomalies - the 1% of humans that don't accept the Matrix. These are all brought out of the Matrix program and into the Zion program by the "Morpheus" program and other similar "ship captain" programs. Then once all the anomalies are out of the Matrix (and in Zion), that is the time for Zion to be destroyed, thus killing all the anomalies off. The Matrix is then upgraded, thus creating the next version of the Matrix, but Zion must be rebuilt so that the next lot of anomalies can be brought out again so that they can be destroyed.
This is the feedback-loop, and is the reason to retain a handful of people so that Zion can be rebuilt. So this is why Neo said the prophecy was a lie - the One's purpose was not to end the war as the prophecy stated. Unfortunately, "The One" program must be re-used each time, or copied, so it can be "attached" to a new anomaly inside the Matrix. So what happens to the old "The One" program? It faces deletion, and as the Oracle explained, it goes into exile instead, just like the French bloke (the Merovingian) did. He was
the first One (probably from the second version of the Matrix), and once he fulfilled his duty, he became an exile program and "abdicated" his "Oneness" by choosing Persephone and power. This is evident in the bogs when Persephone asks Neo to kiss her. She says she wants him to kiss her so she can feel what it is like again to be kissed by something close to human, just like the Merovingian used to be. Then she says to Trinity that she envies her, but that these things are not meant to last. So the Merovingian used to be just like Neo - a One - thus proving further the feedback-loop explained earlier.


The correct door in the Architect's room
Now there are two possibilities here:
1. All the previous One's chose the right door allowing a "temporary dissemination" of their code into the Matrix (i.e., the code they "carry" thus indicating Neo is indeed human), then he must select (unplug) 23 people from the Matrix to rebuild Zion. This takes away the possibility that stories from previous rebuilds of Zion will be carried through. But Morpheus indicated in the first Matrix that this is the case anyway. He said, "there was a man born inside, able to change things, it was he who freed the first of us," - basically the One previous to Neo. And this proves that the previous One chose the right door also. Neo's purpose is also to choose the right door, but he does not because he faces deletion afterwards and has the choice of going into exile - programs choosing to go into exile is the one thing that can't be accounted for in program parameters. Thus, he chooses the left door instead this time. How was Neo able to choose the other door? Because of his extreme willpower? - Even the Architect indicated that he'd noticed this - "Interesting. That was quicker than the others." Or more likely, because the Oracle upgraded his coding with the candy on the park bench. The
candy/cookie was a method to change the One's program. She said he has made a believer out of her - this is quite human-like and perhaps the previous One's didn't accept the upgrade candy, now she has hope... hope that Neo will finally choose the other door.

2. All the previous One's chose the left door, saving Trinity and letting Zion fall. So this time is no different. But the Architect does say, "You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated," and also, "this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it," - assuming the Architect isn't lying, then they have already destroyed Zion (i.e.,

[mdr55]

YAWN......who cares? the matrix sucks. I just saw the 2nd one (my neighbor lent it to me).
The highway scene that alot of people raved about looked so fake. And can you get a more stiff action fighter than Keena and Morphues? And look at that, Trinity didn't die.

The only thing that kept me watching the movie was Jade Pickett-Smith...now she's hot.

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