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Fallon
10-27-2003, 01:32 PM
Little: Going, Going, Gone!
The Boston Red Sox are not renewing manager Grady Little's contract, the team announced Monday.

"Late this morning, Theo and I called Grady, and we informed Grady of the club's decision not to exercise the option or offer an extension of the contract. He took it very well. There was no anger or raised voices. He thanked us for the opportunity he had been given to manage the Red Sox," Boston Red Sox President Larry Lucchino said.

Lucchino said he thanked Little for the contribution that he made and respected the job that he has done with the Sox for the last two years. The Boston Channel (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=383&e=1&u=/ibsys/20031027/lo_WCVB/1848648)

Woohoo, I can root for the Sox again.

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Snoogans
10-27-2003, 01:38 PM
BIGGEST INJUSTICE OF THE YEAR

the guy takes a team in dissaray, with discipline problems, and ego and whatever else. he calms them, gets them together, and gets the to the ALCS game 7.
then because of one bad decision, that wasnt that horrible when you keep in mind that all he did was ask the best pitcher on the field how he felt. i bet mckeon asked beckett if he could go the 9th the other night, beckett said yes, and closed it. pedro shoulda known he was gassed and said that. it isnt all the manager, he wasnt thowin the pitches

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Fallon
10-27-2003, 01:46 PM
Pedro can't go over 115 pitches. Grady knows that and Pedro thinks he can. It's Grady's job to be a man and take him out of the game and use the bullpen which has been solid.

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Snoogans
10-27-2003, 01:51 PM
except if this was sept 23rd little would still have a job.

look, did he make a mistake, sure, he shoulda taken pedro out. did he procede to hang the next 3 pithces, no. All the good grady little has done in his 2 years vs the one mistake. shit you wanna fire him for that, bobby cox shoulda lost his job 12 times already for underachieving.
Little still took that team further than he should have

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RF Godfather
10-27-2003, 01:53 PM
He deserved the boot.

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FUNKMAN
10-27-2003, 01:54 PM
WWFallon makes a good point but i don't believe it's good enough reason to be fired. he took a chance and it didn't go his way but don't 'put aside' ALL of the other positive things he has done for the team.

the manager of the Marlins took a chance pitching Beckett on 3days rest, something i believe he didn't do all year but it just happened to fall in his favor.



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Snoogans
10-27-2003, 01:59 PM
1 thing. he got fired for one mistake in the whole 2 years of good. thats ridiculous. Im a sox and Atl fan, we arent the yankees, we cant expect to win every year. he did more than the 6 managers before him did with more clubhouse problems, and because of 1 mistake in that game, he is gone.

the best manager they have had since 1990 and he is fired for one mistake.

if thats the case, why is fassel, torre, bobby cox, herman edwards, the last 3 coaches who went for 2 to win instead of the extra point to tie and lost, they should all be fired too then

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phixion
10-27-2003, 02:23 PM
hey leave herm edwardss out of this!!!! hes a great fuckin coach.

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Crippler
10-27-2003, 02:23 PM
On a side note, this makes me positive that Joe Torre won't be fired...no way George lets Joe on the open market with a job opening & a good team in Boston.

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Snoogans
10-27-2003, 02:37 PM
Phix, thats what i mean. aside from fassel, all those guys i mentioned are good caoches. so is grady little3. herman edwards, bobby cox, prob any coach or manager has made as many if not more mistakes, and they dont get fired

also, bottom line, any manager makes the playoffs in baseball, they shouldnt lose there job, no matter what. only 4 teams a league go, thats an accomplishment in itselft, moreso than any of the lets let half the league in sports

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shamus mcfitzy
10-27-2003, 02:39 PM
then because of one bad decision


grady little got a good team because of the front office of the Red Sox. The manager's role in baseball is so overrated when it comes to big market teams because GM's can just buy the talent. Grady Little also made mistakes the first few months of the season which were then fixed by the Red Sox money. Another manager could certainly do better than Little.

Snoogans
10-27-2003, 02:58 PM
how bout this shamus, WATCH BASEBALL

he got a very talented team from the management. with bad ego, bad dicsipline, and some bad character problems. he wasnt given a gift. and if you think its easy to win with more talent, ask the yankees and the marlins. more talent is sometimes harder to win with because with more talent comes more ego, more mememe, more dissention then from a bunch of kids or non star veterans that just want to win, no matter how they look

the marlins had no business being anywhere near the playoffs, but they had a manager that believed and hearts the size of me. a bunch of "punk" kids, who put it together

no one is given anything. like the paper champion but realistically 3-4 new york giants.
like the yankees, who should win it every year.

over 2 years, Little did a better job than any of the 5 guys before him, and took a team to the playoffs in the only league that half the teams dont make the playoffs.
GIVE HIM SOME CREDIT, i mean after all, look what bobby cox did with the other "best line up in baseball"

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TheGameHHH
10-27-2003, 04:00 PM
the only thing that bothers me about all this, along with the fact that I don't think Little should have been fired, is how inconsistent Boston fans are. 3 weeks ago you guys would have sucked his dick if he asked any one of you to, then one day he decides to let your best pitcher close out a game that was well within his reach and your over-rated, pansy ass pitcher can't get it done. In my opinion that's Pedro's fault (cause he's a little bitch who talks way too much smack and can't back it up or get it done when it really matters) not Little's.


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Snoogans
10-27-2003, 04:19 PM
thats a good point game, im a boston fan in jersey and i see its like day to day. its worse then us as giants fans

HE BELONGS MANAGING THE RED SOX

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A.J.
10-27-2003, 05:07 PM
Pedro can't go over 115 pitches. Grady knows that and Pedro thinks he can. It's Grady's job to be a man and take him out of the game and use the bullpen which has been solid.

Precisely. He had Pedro throw almost 130 pitches in that one game against the A's. Pedro's not been the same since 1999.

Grady Little didn't get fired for ONE mistake -- he made several during both rounds of the playoffs. First, the Sox were extremely lucky to even get by Oakland considering the miserable offensive output of Nomar, Manny and Ortiz. So what does Little do? He tries the hit and run with these guys. How mant groundouts did they hit into with men in scoring position? Then, he tries to steal bases. How pathetic were those tagouts? They weren't even close! You do NOT run Trot Nixon who is slow to begin with and is nursing a hurt leg as well!

Thank God the bullpen finally gelled in the postseason (thanks to the absence of B.K. Kim). Mike Timlin was phenomenal -- yet Little pulls him after an inning every time. And why the hell did he never use Mendoza during the season?

I respect the job that Little did on focusing this team and dealing with all the clubhouse bullshit. Like Don Zimmer he was a great bench coach but was a bad manager.

And I don't think Torre will ever go to Boston. Do you think he wants to manage Pedro and Manny after Game 3?

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schmega
10-27-2003, 05:27 PM
Do you think he wants to manage Pedro and Manny after Game 3?

truer words have never been spoken.

shamus mcfitzy
10-27-2003, 05:33 PM
the marlins had no business being anywhere near the playoffs, but they had a manager that believed and hearts the size of me. a bunch of "punk" kids, who put it together


Well I did say big market teams. McKeon had to be a good manager to get the team into contention. The Red Sox won games because of Theo Epstein, not Grady Little. Baseball is based on money for the most part. Kevin Millar could've player-coached this team through the playoffs. Grady Little should be looked at as a manager, not as a Red Sox manager. The Red Sox have had a lot of bad managers in the past. I'd like to hope that's because of lack of choices. The Red Sox have choices now. Little is lucky he had his team band together the way they did towards the end of the season. Guys like Kevin Millar should be praised, not Grady Little.

Snoogans
10-27-2003, 05:40 PM
fine shamus, based on that you just said joe torre in essence hasnt managed a day in his life

bullshit, it takes a man to pull them together. even if little made mistakes, he got that team to rally around him, basically as talented as all the sox teams the prior 5 years, and he did a better job of gettin them to play when it counted than the other bums. No september tank job, no first round flob, and a fight to the finish

more fight than any sox team in the last maybe 10 years. thats not all because of the players, or like i said, you have to sit and tell me Torre could have been replaced by jeter

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KERMIT
10-27-2003, 05:54 PM
the real Hypocrites are the redsox players. All year you here from these jackasses how they love Little and how they would go through the wall for him. Well where the F were they when he really needed them? just like on the feild when they need to step up the cower like little bitches.

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shamus mcfitzy
10-28-2003, 02:48 AM
fine shamus, based on that you just said joe torre in essence hasnt managed a day in his life


well i really don't think joe torre has SHOWED any managing skills because he's always had a constant flow of money that can give him a short term fix for any problem. There's no doubt in my mind that Torre couldn't manage a team that didn't have money. Torre certainly wouldn't be leading the Marlins to the World Series. I think that in many cases Jeter and Clemens lead the team more than Torre does. Jeter's clutch offense and Clemens pitching are examples of things that have Torre can't control, and yet things that keep the Yankees at the top of MLB. When a team has all the money in the world it only needs a manager that can sit back and let the players do their jobs. George can fix everything.

Teenweek
10-28-2003, 04:30 AM
so when do they hire Bobby valentine.

Crippler
10-28-2003, 12:04 PM
That would be so perfect...Bobby V in Boston, it's almost too good to be true.

Imagine him trying to get his team, filled with DHs playing positions they haven't played much of since little league, to do the wheel play for no apparent reason twice per game. Or having his 1st baseman running in front of, behind, covering for a throw, running in to play the bunt, etc....on every play once a runner gets on, when he's not as defensively gifted as Jon Olerud? Good times!

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10-28-2003, 12:27 PM
Management:"Step into my office."

Mr. Little: "Why?"

Management: "Cos you're fucking fired!"



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Heavy
10-28-2003, 03:22 PM
Damn you Red Sox for making good decisions! If anyone else coached that team the Yanks would have losed! First they leave Kim off the ALCS roster, now they fire a dumb manager!! DAMN IT!!!!!!!!

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