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Mike Teacher
10-19-2003, 06:41 PM
...or so the decision below would suggest, at least for now.

Good to know that people puking their guts out from chemotherapy or dying from AIDS can now talk to their doctors about pot with a bit less fear.

Youd think in the year 2003, with many cancer Chemotherapy regimens more similar to Slow Torture then treatment; a person could at least talk about trying to smoke a plant that, if we know abything about the stuff, tends to calm nausea, increase appetite, and maybe actually make the person [gasp] fell a little less like they are Dying.

Sorry but the rant is a bit personal having seen this shit first hand. One thing Medical Science knows in the year 2003 is how God-Damned little we actually Know.

To treat a malady by trying to kill your cancer cells by giving you, basically, poisons, until your immune system is so low that you cant risk any more, and letting the immune system recover, as you enjoy two or three weeks of non-stop nausea, then repeat as necesary until you stop the cancer [which happens often] or the chemo and/or cancer kill you [which happens], or, sadly, people say "Fuck This I'd Rather Die" and stop the Chemo.

For Fuck Sake if they cant Legalize [which shouldn't happen, IMHO, but thats for later] but decriminalize for use with the terminally ill.

Grrrrrrrrr...........

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Supreme Court justices on Tuesday rejected the Bush administration's request to consider whether the federal government can punish doctors for recommending or even discussing the use of marijuana for their patients.

The decision by the High Court cleared the way for state laws allowing ill patients to smoke marijuana if a doctor recommends it.

The dispute pits free speech rights against efforts to stamp out use of the popular, but illegal recreational drug.

Marijuana is recognized as a controlled substance by the federal government and its use for recreational purposes is banned in most jurisdictions. The federal Office of National Drug Control Policy labels marijuana, along with other addictive drugs, as having "a high potential for abuse," lacking "accepted safety for use," even "under medical supervision."

Nine states have laws legalizing marijuana for people with physician recommendations or prescriptions: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington.

California in particular has been at the legal forefront on the issue. A 1996 voter referendum, the Compassionate Use Act, allowed marijuana use by those who receive "the written or oral recommendation or approval of a physician."

Federal law bans marijuana distribution and use under any circumstances.


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Tall_James
10-19-2003, 06:44 PM
I'm too high to read all that. Can you give me a quick summary and some Pop-Tarts?


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FUNKMAN
10-19-2003, 06:46 PM
we talk about weed alot too!

i'm curious if it will ever become 'fully' legal in our lifetime... i could see it being prescribed for medicinal purposes but not sold to the public like in Amsterdam...

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Johnathan H Christ
10-19-2003, 06:49 PM
medical, recreational.... whatever. its not like alcohol produces "safer" behavior. if you're sick... then you should have the option. if you're bored, you should also have the option.

i have always had a problem with any of the laws concerning what an individual can or more often cant do with thier own body.

the right to die, abortion, whats next... masturbation? please! its my body. i'll do with it what i please...regardless of the law. and telling me what i can and cant do with it is tantamount to rape as far as im concerned.



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Mike Teacher
10-19-2003, 06:57 PM
i'm curious if it will ever become 'fully' legal in our lifetime


Me too Funkman, and lemme explain by my stance against legalization.

Maybe I'm incorrect by 'legalize' to me means anyone can use anytime. I'd prefer a de-criminalization, where there are some set rules about age of use [which me mentioning is hypocritical since i was trying shit at 15, and looking back that was way too young, so theres the hypocrisy].

Also, I will also admit that, while fairly benign, weed can freak out some people, even people who use often, once in a while. Meaning, long story short: I would not want my Pilot, Surgeon, Subway Driver, Bus Driver, you get my drift, people who operate nuclear power plants, jobs where 'spacing out' doesnt mean the possible loss of lives.

Any step towards:

1. getting the money out of the illicit underground will help, i would hope, a bit, in the criminal element involved. And...

2. getting the people who are in jail under out-dated Minimum Mandatory and 'three strike' laws that have people doing life without parole for pot offenses. And the numbers in jails for simple posession charges in states where 'simple' posession isn't simple, the numbers are somewhere in the tens of thousands. people doing longer time then murderer and rapist cellmates.

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erole
10-19-2003, 07:02 PM
Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington.


with the exception of Maine...what the hell is up with the entire western side of the US?

look...if someone i loved were dying and in serious pain, i'm giving it, and so would anyone else. it's not like we're giving people a line, or a pacifier with a bottle of Desani. if you're hospitalized, or at home and bedridden, give it to the people who need it.

let me see one of these asses who don't want pot anywhere for anything in a situation where no pain killers work...and the last option is pot. in their writhing, burning, and nausiating pain, let me hear them say no. every body reacts differently to medications...some people can have a predisposition to the effects of pot as a pain killer.

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HBox
10-19-2003, 07:09 PM
What bothers me most about this is that the government is trying to essentially censor doctors. This isn't even about whther marijuana has any medicinal value, this is about whather a doctor can talk freely about all possible treatment. If a doctor says marijuana has some value, I'll trust the doctor more than I'll trust some idiot from the Justice Department.

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