Whos the best QB ever?

[Heavy]

For me ,it's gotta be Elway. I dont care about records he may or may not hold. People have thrown for more yards or TD over a season or carear. This is a situation where you would of had to watch the man play over the years to get a real feeling for how good he was.

1) Great fucking arm
2) Great scrambler
3) Great pooch punter
4) Great field General
5) Great in the clutch

He is the only QB to take his team to the SB 5 times. The first 3 were %99 because of him. He really had no talent around him. Mecklenberg was the only other pro-bowler they had right? And its not like he was dominate either.

Givin a running game that was worth a fuck and a decent defense, he showed how great he was. He didnt choke. He NEVER choked. Football more than any other sport is a team sport. A QB cant protect himself. He cant get open and throw himself the ball. But he can scramble, run for yards, and launch a bullet straight through a defenders arms while on the run, and Elway did those things better then any other.

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[Snoogans]

johnee, elway is a damn good choice. this will be debated to no end, like any other best something..
id have to say warren moon. more cause of how underrated he was. he put up massive yards with basically no running game, and it was fun watchin that run and shoot with jeffries and givens

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[Heavy]

Haha, that was funny....you said Warren Moon, lol

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Most career pass attempts
Most career completions

1. Dan Marino -- 8,358
1. Dan Marino -- 4,967

2. John Elway -- 7,250
2. John Elway -- 4,123

3. Warren Moon -- 6,789
3. Warren Moon -- 3,972



Most career passing yards

Most career touchdown passes

1. Dan Marino -- 61,361
1. Dan Marino -- 420

2. John Elway -- 51,475
2. Fran Tarkenton -- 342

3. Warren Moon -- 49,097
3. John Elway -- 300



Highest passer rating, rookie

Highest completion percentage, rookie

1. Dan Marino (1983) -- 96.0
1. Dan Marino (1983) -- 58.45

2. Greg Cook (1969, Cincinnati) -- 88.2
2. Jim McMahon (1982, Chicago) -- 57.14

3. Charlie Conerly (1948, N.Y. Giants) -- 84.0
3. Charlie Batch (1998, Detroit) -- 57.10



Most passing yards, season

Most 400-yard passing games, career

1. Dan Marino (1984) -- 5,084
1. Dan Marino -- 13

2. Dan Fouts (1981, San Diego) -- 4,802
2. Joe Montana -- 7

3. Dan Marino (1986) -- 4,746
2.Warren Moon -- 7



Most 400-yard passing games, season

Most 300-yard passing games, career

1. Dan Marino (1984) -- 4
1. Dan Marino -- 63

2. Dan Marino (1986) -- 3
2. Dan Fouts -- 51

3. Several players -- 2
3. Warren Moon -- 49



Most 3,000-yard passing seasons

Most touchdown passes, season

1. Dan Marino -- 13 (1984-92, 1994-95, 1997-98)
1. Dan Marino (1984) -- 48

2. John Elway -- 12
2. Dan Marino (1986) -- 44

3. Warren Moon -- 9
3. Kurt Warner (1999) -- 41


3. Brett Favre -- 9



Most games, four or more touchdown passes, career

Most games, four or more touchdown passes, season

1. Dan Marino -- 21
1. Dan Marino (1984) -- 6

2. Johnny Unitas -- 17
2. Dan Marino (1986) -- 5

3. George Blanda -- 13
2.Brett Favre (1996) -- 5



Most seasons leading league, attempts

Most seasons leading league, completions

1. Dan Marino -- 5 (1984, '86, '88, '92, '97)
1. Dan Marino -- 6 (1984-86, '88, '92, '97)

2. Sammy Baugh -- 4
2. Sammy Baugh -- 5

2.Johnny Unitas -- 4
3. George Blanda -- 4


2. George Blanda -- 4
3. Sonny Jurgenson -- 4



Most seasons, 20 or more touchdown passes

1. Dan Marino -- 13 (1983-92, 1994-95, '98)

2. Johnny Unitas -- 8

3. Five players tied at 7



Fewest games needed to reach 100 touchdown passes

1. Dan Marino -- 44


Fewest games to reach 200 touchdown passes
1. Dan Marino -- 89

2. Brett Favre -- 107
3. Johnny Unitas -- 121


Fewest games needed to reach 300 touchdown passes
1. Dan Marino -- 157

2. Fran Tarkenton -- 217

3. John Elway -- 234


Most consecutive seasons, 3,000 or more yards passing
1. Dan Marino -- 9 (1984-92)

2. John Elway -- 7

Most games, four or more touchdown passes, career
1. Dan Marino -- 21

2. Johnny Unitas -- 17
3. George Blanda -- 13


Most seasons, 40 or more touchdown passes
1. Dan Marino -- 2 (1984, 1986)

2. Kurt Warner -- 1 (1999

Most consecutive seasons, 20 or more touchdown passes
1. Dan Marino -- 10 (1983-92)



Marino is tied for the following records:
Most seasons leading league, yards gained: 5 (1984-86, '88, '92), with Sonny Jurgenson.
Most consecutive seasons leading league, completions: 3 (1984-86), with George Blanda.
Most consecutive games, 400 or more yards passing: 2 (1984), with Dan Fouts.
Most consecutive seasons, 4,000 or more yards passing: 3 (1984-86), with Dan Fouts.
Most games, 300 or more yards passing, season: 9 (1984), with Warren Moon.



DLK

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[Snoogans]

Warren Moon may be a stretch, but marino cant beat elway. throw out all your stats DLK, and elway wins the important one. 2 Super Bowls - 0 for marino, elway was better

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[David Lee Kinison]

throw out all your stats DLK

Best Qb means individual achivenment

Grow up and see the man.....DAN


DLK

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[Snoogans]

DLK, QB's are leaders. the best thing they could do isnt stats. its to be the man and lead his team to a championship. look at trent dilfer, he sucks. but he got that team to believe in him and look what they did.
you dont have to be the man to be the best QB, you have to be a successful one, but also, a winner.

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[phixion]

heckler started this thread already. check out old school.

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[DJEvelEd]

Elway was the best. All he needed was a few seconds on the clock and he would get the yards & the points.

Trent Dilfer is one Superbowl Ring better than Dan Marino.

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[Snoogans]

Trent Dilfer is one Superbowl Ring better than Dan Marino.

exactly, finally someone understands that stats arent the most important thing. there are roughly 25 QB's better than marino in superbowl rings

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[phixion]

oh and for the record namath was the best ever. if it wasnt for his damn knees the jets wouldve had 3 more rings.

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[Snoogans]

no ones goin old time enough.
How about YA Tittle

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[Snoogans]

and since i want one more stab at DLK's guy, i would never say someone who did Isatoner Glove commercials was the best at anything except being gay


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[mdr55]

Aaron Garcia (Arena League)
Jim Kelly (USFL)
Warren Moon (CFL)
Tommy Maddox (XFL)
Steve DeBerg (NFL)

Fight the Establishment. Down with censorship!!

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[David Lee Kinison]

Amazing insite what position did you play SnOOGASS



DLK

A Lil Aint Enough !!!

[Snoogans]

i was a strong saftey


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[Heavy]

Try and Fuck with this


Ok, How many rings does he have? I just fucked with that. And thanks for making those stats almost impossible to understand. Nice job deeeek. And theyre old too. Pennington had over 100 rating last year.

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[David Lee Kinison]

[quote]For me ,it's gotta be Elway. I dont care about records he may or may not hold. People have thrown for more yards or TD over a season or carear. This is a situation where you would of had to watch the man play over the years to get a real feeling for how good he was.

1) Great fucking arm
2) Great scrambler
3) Great pooch punter
4) Great field General
5) Great in the clutch

I dont see a ring mentioned and for the record
Dan is THE MAN
DLK

srry about the stats

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[squrl]

Terry Bradshaw. The man wears 4 rings.

[phixion]

what position did you play SnOOGASS


hurt yourself with that 'zinger'?

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[Mike Teacher]

Best Qb means individual achivenment


Perhaps. I know a few NFL owners, coaches, players, and QBs that might disagree.

OK; i'm entering this thread like Sweden; Neutral.

Why? Coz I'm a Vikings fan, so for a second we can talk about Tark.

Stats? He flooded the stat books. Many of those records mentioned above were his, for a long time. The guy could connect. Ran like a sissy, but hey...

But: Not a single ring. And Minnesota went FOUR times.

So, honestly, as a Vikes fan, I can brag all I want about Fran, and lay claim to his being greatest, this and that, but...

How can you be the best at QB, even if it is based on individual stats, if you cant Win the Super Bowl; which, I don't care WHO says otherwise, is the goal, the Aim, in NFL football.

And don't mention the Fran Tarkenton Infomercials; it's shitty out enough on this Saturday Morning.



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[Mike Teacher]

Ok, now ya got me going. Grrrrr....

Here's what pisses me off about NFL Football today...

Not enough Bad Weather Games!!!

With all the retractable domes AstroTurf and Super Bowls being played in nice weather. Dammit I was a Huge Vikes fan, and I wanna see games like you saw where Unitas has to scoop the mud out of his mask just to see, or watch the Vikes play some hapless southern team in a Blizzard.

They stop baseball if it drizzles. They dont stop football like that. We need Snow, Rain, Real Grass, and for fuck sake, can we speed up the Super Bowl just a teeeensy bit?

ugh.

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[jocefus]

either terry bradshaw or bret favre

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[chandler1420]

Brett favre is becoming one of the greatest QB's of all time. And Chad Pennington is incredible to turn around an entire franchise and carry it on his shoulder. The guy has a weak arm but has incredible pocket pressence.

[Snoogans]

Brett favre is becoming one of the greatest QB's of all time. And Chad Pennington is incredible to turn around an entire franchise and carry it on his shoulder. The guy has a weak arm but has incredible pocket pressence.

Favre is becoming? he is in the decline of his career, if anything, he already made his best case, and he is riding out the wave like most other athletes right now.
In regards to pennington, let the guy play more than 15 games before we call him one of the best QB's ever. if you are even gonna think that, kerry collins must be there too. he took a team to the NFC champ, another to a bowl. now im a giants fan, but see how abserd that sounds. Pennington isnt even close.

if you wanna think ahead and pick a QB now who may get there, the only guy id even validate is michael vick, assuming he can still play

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