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Teenweek
06-27-2003, 03:07 AM
What the hell is wrong with Vince? He owns all the rights to everything WCW and ECW but does not use it because he did not create it. He could use big name PPVs like the Great American bash or Starrcade. Aren't those better than the current ones, Vengeance and Armegeddon. He has a huge match which he has no interest in using in Wargames. This is as good or better than Hell in the Cell and yet he won't use it.

Smackdown is an absolute mess right now. Vince books himself into about half of Smackdown. You think HHH is bad, I don't think he has ever been on as long as Vince is with the Mr. America, Zach Gowen angle. Yet, Chris benoit and Rhyno are now pushed to VELOCITY. They can't even wrestle on Smackdown. That is a fucking joke. How does Undertaker dominate by himself the FBI and now all of a sudden he needs the APA and bradshaw's new gay look. How does Big Show dominate your 2 main stars in Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar. How on earth can you book a Big Show match vs Zach and Stephanie. I don't know shouldn't Zach's first match be on maybe PPV as it would bring people's interest to see a one legged wrestler for the first time. And why the hell is Stephanie wrestling. Wasn't it enough when she won the Women's title.

You have rey Mysterio, Ultimo Dragon and Billy Kidman. people like that stuff. You could bring in Juventud Guerrera, Psychosis and you never should have gotten rid of Jerry Lynn. NWA could never have matched that.


The 2 heavyweights champs in Brock Lesnar and HHH. Anyone else see Brock Lesnar's title severely diminished even so much as to ask the casual watcher who is WWE champ and I bet most would say HHH.

Why did they bring back the U.S. Title. This split started where the World title and the Women's title would be defended on both shows. As everyone sees, they split that up with HHH receiving the belt. Their are no women on Smackdown who are good wrestlers who can compete with the raw women. However, the IC title would be perfect for both shows. Imagine matches with Christian, Booker, RVD, Jericho, Benoit, Rhyno, Edge when he comes back. If you lose you stay on the other show. This would allow changes of stars to wrestle different people.

What the hell is wrong with Vince that he demotes Paul Heyman and does not like any of his ideas. It was heyman who built ECW and has an incredible mind with good storylines. Vince has these people but does not like their ideas.

Now onto Raw. Raw has been the more dominant show the last 2 months. There is no doubt in my mind. However, I have lots of problems with raw as well. First let's start with Eric Bischoff. This guy took Nitro and made it the #1 show. Now Vince uses him to make fun of him every chance he gets. He has him throw up on a PPV. He gets Mae Young to rub her crotch in his face. They throw him in a pigpen to look stupid.

Next up everyone's favorite whipping boy, HHH. For the most part I like HHH. I think up until his quad injury he earned his spot. He worked his ass off to get where he is and now he uses the bosses daughter to keep it. Right now he is the number 1 heel in the industry like it or not. I like long title reigns and he should not have lost to Nash, Steiner or RVD. However, Wrestlemania he should have lost to Booker T. That feud was set up perfectly for Booker to win and it would have been sweet. That pissed me off. HHH does not need the belt to remain on top of the card.

Now onto Kane. I see his career sinking fast after this Where can they take him now. Without the mask he will be just another big man.

Kevin Nash is a joke and should be released. I really like HBK and Flair feud. I like the Booker T and Christian feud and Christian is making a good champ. Mick Foley coming back was great and he will be missed.

Goldberg. I liked that he stopped the white boy challenge. he needs to be pushed as a monster to be good. he should not talk. He should just kick ass.

Chris Jericho. My favorite wrestler on Raw. This guy is good whatever

DarkHippie
06-27-2003, 04:29 AM
I think you're mostly right. The only thing I disagree with is the US title, which they need as a stop-gap. There's too much talent for just one mid-card title to be floating around.

Otherwise, good rant.

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RF Godfather
06-27-2003, 04:37 AM
You are damn right about everything but I wanted to comment on two things...

He could use big name PPVs like the Great American bash or Starrcade. OVW currently uses some of those PPV names right now. Smart move Vince!

You have rey Mysterio, Ultimo Dragon and Billy Kidman. people like that stuff. You could bring in Juventud Guerrera, Psychosis and you never should have gotten rid of Jerry Lynn. NWA could never have matched that. Very true but Vince likes giants. NWA-TNA has the best collect of cruiserweights today (although it could never rival WCW's cruiserweight in the late '90s)... Sabin, Kazarian, Cross, Skipper, Low-ki, Cross, Amazing Red, SAT, London, CM Punk and formerly Lynn and AJ.

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Teenweek
06-27-2003, 04:50 AM
Another thing, Vince Mcmahon looked like a total asshole on HBO. he did himself and the WWE and wrestling in general a total disservice acting like that. He could have acted so much more professionally. He had to have known that HBO was going to have an agenda about him killing wrestlers. If he going to act like such an ass, why not Linda mcMahon or JR talk for you.

And if you want a Mcmahon on tv, get rid of Stephanie and put Shane on. For the love of God do not bring Stephanie to Raw to rekindle an onscreen romance with HHH to coincide with their October wedding.

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FatTony
06-27-2003, 04:53 AM
Very true but Vince likes giants. NWA-TNA has the best collect of cruiserweights today (although it could never rival WCW's cruiserweight in the late '90s)... Sabin, Kazarian, Cross, Skipper, Low-ki, Cross, Amazing Red, SAT, London, CM Punk and formerly Lynn and AJ.

NWA-TNA-1... WWE-0!

After seeing what the X-Division has done for TNA, Vince McMahon should be blowing everyone of the cruiserweights on his roster. Your paying these men, but yet you aren't allowing them to showcase their ability. I mean look at what happens when someone is released for a poor situation in WWE and signs with TNA. Example 1. Jerry Lynn. Horribly used in WWE, but one of the premier wrestlers in TNA's X-Division. 2. D-Lo Brown. Never was able to show his abilities in the ring in WWE, but now has been involved in some of the best matches in TNA. Styles/Brown tag team was simply phenomenal. 3. Justin Credible. They could have done alot with him in WWE but they chose to stick him on HEAT. What happens when he gets to TNA? The crowd pops for him like crazy. Now he feuds with former ECW World Champion Lynn and seems to be one hell of a feud. and finally Raven. Probably the most underused WWE superstar. Come on why was this man released in the first place? Even his feud with D-Lo on Heat was great. Now he was in the NWA World Title hunt. Vince McMahan dropped the ball on these guys. When he should have been pushing these guys, he was pushing Rikishi, Fat Albert, and Big Slow. When will he learn they do not draw?

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Teenweek
06-27-2003, 04:56 AM
I agree with everything but Justin Credible. I can't stand him and I do not care that he is gone. He is forever a glorified jobber to me. He might have been the worst ECW champion ever.

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Heather 8
06-27-2003, 01:06 PM
And if you want a Mcmahon on tv, get rid of Stephanie and put Shane on.


Finally, Teenweek and I agree on something!

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ToddEVF
06-27-2003, 01:10 PM
seriously, shane O mac would be great, but i think he'd be better for Raw than Smackdown.

and thats all i have to say about that

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